Surprisingly there is alot of thought and careful planing that goes into making Japanese cars. When you start working at Honda, Toyota, etc. (even if you have an engineering degree) you start at the bottom and in a few years get to the position you want to be in. IE you start sweeping floors move onto final assembly. eventually you get to the point where you actually assemble and build the engine, Trans, Diff, etc. Everyone who designs the cars has hands on Built the car.
I never had any luck with Honda. Ive owned 4 motorcycles that all went to bike heaven for various different reasons. Then I had a Honda Del sol that I had to junk after the gear box grenaded on me.
I used to know a guy who made quite a bit of money on replacing head gaskets (a really common problem from poor maintenance and over expectation of the car's performance) in his town. He used to machine them by using a drill motor with a sander on it and very carefully removing material from the surface so it could be placed back on the car. Not necessarily as accurate as a machine, but, if done with patience, will yield good results. (IE, he never had a complaint)
@uxwbill honestly I don't know that he really put a huge amount of effort into it because it would be a lot like buffing out a scratch I would imagine. So, if you do try it, I would just make sure you don't focus on one spot for too long so the surface stays even because all you're doing with the machining is taking away a fraction of an inch to make sure the surface is "fresh." Which is similar to polishing.
If you fix the Honda i will be very happy. One of the cars i like are Honda. Than i like chavy's like the Corvettes. I would love that honda t fix start and run.
All i have ever worked on was Hondas all my life. I learned from experience it is much easier to just remove the entire engine from the vehicle instead of taking it apart still inside the vehicle.
That engine has a dual path intake; long and short runners. Those butterfly valves are over the short runners. When you are at higher RPM, the vacuum loss opens the shorter runner path, improving volumetric efficiency at higher RPM.
You can actually straighten your valve while leaving it in the head and save yourself much time. Watch 'Davesfarm' video on how to straighten a valve. This seems crude but actually does work as I have done it myself. Works on any engine from lawnmowers to motorcycles to cars.
I would fix it because your mom may end up having to drive it for a while. idk but its a honda and if it is fixed then it wont have to be for a while. our 06 honda accord has only had oil changes and a new oil cap because someone over tighned it. ours has 61 or so thousand miles.
I don't think my mom will drive it, she feels it is too rusty. I disagree. :-)
Someone else could always drive it, leaving a car free for her. I like my truck very well, but I'd drive the Honda. It handled very well and would run like hell. The only real problem with being that low to the ground was how SUVs and pickups would "light up your night" with their headlamps.
That's been my line of thought as well...we've gone this far, the damage really doesn't look too bad (certainly not as bad as that poor 3.3 in the van!) and it wouldn't cost a ton to find out...
I don't know about in the USA but you might be able to find another valve from somebody who has cracked their head or something, here in NZ japanesse cars are so popular that the engines are worth probably nothing
There should be plenty of these cars--or cars with the same engine--in junkyards. (Not saying they're bad cars--just that I'm sure plenty of them have been junked since 1990!)
It really doesn't matter, though, as a new intake value is $20.
you talked in the computer video about not wanting to reveal youre loaction but you give out the state you live in with the advent of microsoft live maps one could search and find youre nabiorhood easly.
Please quit making such a point out of this. :-) You're only going to ruin it for everyone. You don't need any sort of mapping site to figure it out, and at least a few other people do know.
I'm not really interested in visitors or being found. I make these videos for fun (and a *very* little bit of profit as of late).
I do this because I enjoy it, and if things get out of hand, that's it: there will be no more videos from me at that point.
I know G&G machine in Rantoul, IL can do some reasonably priced machine work. You should give them a call and see if they would be willing to work with you. There number is: 217-892-9696
I will probably do that. It cannot hurt to see what they have to say, and I will need someone to do something, since the 1998 Reliant needs to have its head planed, shaved or whatever they call it.
Well, I guess I'm too pragmatic, but I would only spend money on a car this old if it were: #1. one of my projects I had high interest in seeing through to completion, or #2 I needed it for transportation or could sell and make money.
I have an '02 Kia Spectra that stripped the T-belt, and it's going to be more economical to replace the entire engine with a low-mileage unit than to pay for valves and valve job and surfacing the head on the high-mileage shortblock. Whatever you do, have fun!
yh i agree, if its more expensive or of little differance to replace the engine with a good condition used 1 then its better then having to repair it.
Clean the piston top with a 2" sanding disc and a drill (pack some grease between the piston and cylinder wall to prevent any crud from getting in there, cover the others with duct tape). Buy a used cylinder head from a auto wrecker since it's cheaper than machining the old one.
With most 4 cylinder engines using a 1,4,3,2 firing order you can understand how the butterfly and screws from the #3 end up in the #2 cylinder. As the #2 opens it's intake valves right after the #3 closes and the vacuum from the #2 pulls the lose parts up into the upper manifold.
yea see if you vvhere vvorking on a civic it be alot easyer but that's a honda prelude alot harder to vvork on i have vvork on a honda prelude my self it vvas a 1989 prelude and it vvas not fun at all i had to put a nevv head gasket in on and lets just say i vvas piss off coz their vvas to much shit to do but good video keep up the good vvork
Good solution to the problem. A new keyboard's not that expensive--or you could try dishwashing yours!
(Beware that doing so might make it worse. I tried it on an HP Keytronic 'board whose matrix had been compromised by floodwater. It went from fussy to unusable!)
You're making it hard on yourself by doing that in the car. It'd be way easier to pull the engine.
snivesz32 4 months ago
The only guy I would send heads to are John @ Costa Mesa R&D. He's a youtube user. Does excellent work. look at the channel fiatnutz
gbowne1 6 months ago
Surprisingly there is alot of thought and careful planing that goes into making Japanese cars. When you start working at Honda, Toyota, etc. (even if you have an engineering degree) you start at the bottom and in a few years get to the position you want to be in. IE you start sweeping floors move onto final assembly. eventually you get to the point where you actually assemble and build the engine, Trans, Diff, etc. Everyone who designs the cars has hands on Built the car.
ChiefLeftenant 11 months ago
I never had any luck with Honda. Ive owned 4 motorcycles that all went to bike heaven for various different reasons. Then I had a Honda Del sol that I had to junk after the gear box grenaded on me.
LordSamuelJ 1 year ago
honda's variable intake system my guess
grawey77 1 year ago
I used to know a guy who made quite a bit of money on replacing head gaskets (a really common problem from poor maintenance and over expectation of the car's performance) in his town. He used to machine them by using a drill motor with a sander on it and very carefully removing material from the surface so it could be placed back on the car. Not necessarily as accurate as a machine, but, if done with patience, will yield good results. (IE, he never had a complaint)
Seanzee666 1 year ago
@Seanzee666 I'll bet it did take a lot of patience and skill to do that. I could have the patience, but I don't know about the skill.
uxwbill 1 year ago
@uxwbill honestly I don't know that he really put a huge amount of effort into it because it would be a lot like buffing out a scratch I would imagine. So, if you do try it, I would just make sure you don't focus on one spot for too long so the surface stays even because all you're doing with the machining is taking away a fraction of an inch to make sure the surface is "fresh." Which is similar to polishing.
Seanzee666 1 year ago
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alphazeta1255 1 year ago
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uxwbill 1 year ago
If you fix the Honda i will be very happy. One of the cars i like are Honda. Than i like chavy's like the Corvettes. I would love that honda t fix start and run.
Corvette1658 2 years ago
All i have ever worked on was Hondas all my life. I learned from experience it is much easier to just remove the entire engine from the vehicle instead of taking it apart still inside the vehicle.
KLewisChef 2 years ago
That engine has a dual path intake; long and short runners. Those butterfly valves are over the short runners. When you are at higher RPM, the vacuum loss opens the shorter runner path, improving volumetric efficiency at higher RPM.
wolfc70 2 years ago 2
You can actually straighten your valve while leaving it in the head and save yourself much time. Watch 'Davesfarm' video on how to straighten a valve. This seems crude but actually does work as I have done it myself. Works on any engine from lawnmowers to motorcycles to cars.
revitup1965 2 years ago
what a bugger that butterfly probably caused it shit how they'd come loose
HDXFH 2 years ago
It's a mystery to me. Other than possible vibration from the engine, I can't explain it at all.
uxwbill 2 years ago
You can do this on a vw scirocco in an hour and a half;)
UberWagen 2 years ago
If only this were a VW Scirocco. ;-)
uxwbill 2 years ago
Well just keep going at it. It's so satisfying to hear it run when it's fixed.
UberWagen 2 years ago
I would fix it because your mom may end up having to drive it for a while. idk but its a honda and if it is fixed then it wont have to be for a while. our 06 honda accord has only had oil changes and a new oil cap because someone over tighned it. ours has 61 or so thousand miles.
Motorfordtoyota 2 years ago
I don't think my mom will drive it, she feels it is too rusty. I disagree. :-)
Someone else could always drive it, leaving a car free for her. I like my truck very well, but I'd drive the Honda. It handled very well and would run like hell. The only real problem with being that low to the ground was how SUVs and pickups would "light up your night" with their headlamps.
uxwbill 2 years ago
i wood fix the car. you already have so much time into it. might as well give it a try.....never give up
onetoughtechie 2 years ago 2
That's been my line of thought as well...we've gone this far, the damage really doesn't look too bad (certainly not as bad as that poor 3.3 in the van!) and it wouldn't cost a ton to find out...
uxwbill 2 years ago
I don't know about in the USA but you might be able to find another valve from somebody who has cracked their head or something, here in NZ japanesse cars are so popular that the engines are worth probably nothing
MOTERHEAD69 2 years ago
There should be plenty of these cars--or cars with the same engine--in junkyards. (Not saying they're bad cars--just that I'm sure plenty of them have been junked since 1990!)
It really doesn't matter, though, as a new intake value is $20.
uxwbill 2 years ago
jeez thats cheap, so are you going to fix this up it will be great if you do
MOTERHEAD69 2 years ago
you talked in the computer video about not wanting to reveal youre loaction but you give out the state you live in with the advent of microsoft live maps one could search and find youre nabiorhood easly.
iam not a big fan of live maps.
itscool1968 2 years ago
I don't want to sound harsh when I say this, but:
Please quit making such a point out of this. :-) You're only going to ruin it for everyone. You don't need any sort of mapping site to figure it out, and at least a few other people do know.
I'm not really interested in visitors or being found. I make these videos for fun (and a *very* little bit of profit as of late).
I do this because I enjoy it, and if things get out of hand, that's it: there will be no more videos from me at that point.
uxwbill 2 years ago
so now that youre vaction is over are you back to work if so what kind of work do you do?
itscool1968 2 years ago
IT and computer work...
uxwbill 2 years ago
i want to see you guys get the forgotten grain truck going or at least try
Kawisaki100 2 years ago 2
lol i am going to do a video about it lol
CRXJDM88 2 years ago
R&R Engineering. had a couple of heads heads resurfaced there. really good people. but its in lombard i dont think u want to drive that far
Villlaparkmike 2 years ago
I know G&G machine in Rantoul, IL can do some reasonably priced machine work. You should give them a call and see if they would be willing to work with you. There number is: 217-892-9696
IHMan1066 2 years ago
I will probably do that. It cannot hurt to see what they have to say, and I will need someone to do something, since the 1998 Reliant needs to have its head planed, shaved or whatever they call it.
uxwbill 2 years ago
Every time I take a head off of a motor thats not an inline or a good one to work on, I take it off with the air intake on.
saebbi 2 years ago
Well, I guess I'm too pragmatic, but I would only spend money on a car this old if it were: #1. one of my projects I had high interest in seeing through to completion, or #2 I needed it for transportation or could sell and make money.
I have an '02 Kia Spectra that stripped the T-belt, and it's going to be more economical to replace the entire engine with a low-mileage unit than to pay for valves and valve job and surfacing the head on the high-mileage shortblock. Whatever you do, have fun!
kjm1983 2 years ago 2
yh i agree, if its more expensive or of little differance to replace the engine with a good condition used 1 then its better then having to repair it.
portugal0are0da0best 2 years ago
Clean the piston top with a 2" sanding disc and a drill (pack some grease between the piston and cylinder wall to prevent any crud from getting in there, cover the others with duct tape). Buy a used cylinder head from a auto wrecker since it's cheaper than machining the old one.
R5alive 2 years ago
With most 4 cylinder engines using a 1,4,3,2 firing order you can understand how the butterfly and screws from the #3 end up in the #2 cylinder. As the #2 opens it's intake valves right after the #3 closes and the vacuum from the #2 pulls the lose parts up into the upper manifold.
R5alive 2 years ago
check out ''dannyscam'' video about a screw down the intake... and yes that screw mite of caused all that damage
cbhonda90 2 years ago
that looks like a extremly complicated engine
randomrazr 2 years ago
yea see if you vvhere vvorking on a civic it be alot easyer but that's a honda prelude alot harder to vvork on i have vvork on a honda prelude my self it vvas a 1989 prelude and it vvas not fun at all i had to put a nevv head gasket in on and lets just say i vvas piss off coz their vvas to much shit to do but good video keep up the good vvork
CRXJDM88 2 years ago
why do you put w as vv?
nipperoid 2 years ago
coz the vv on my computer is not vvorking so i have to do it like that
CRXJDM88 2 years ago
thats quite clever
nipperoid 2 years ago
Good solution to the problem. A new keyboard's not that expensive--or you could try dishwashing yours!
(Beware that doing so might make it worse. I tried it on an HP Keytronic 'board whose matrix had been compromised by floodwater. It went from fussy to unusable!)
uxwbill 2 years ago