ONLY HITLER KNEW THESE FUCKING PEOPLE, WERE ALL ABOUT USA, UK, AND ISRAEL. ONE DAY, ONE DAY US WILL COLLAPES TOO, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM. AND THEN IT WILL BE THEIR TURN.
we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
wait a minute...so the US wanted the russians to enter afghanistan? but i also read somewhere that on of the biggest fear of the americans was the presence of soviet influence in states in the Persian Gulf...so were they so confident that the soviets can`t win? anyway i belive the truth is that CIA agents taught the afgans to make bombs and to asasinate....strange...
Why did you have to perpetuate capitalist propaganda by claiming the Afghan socialist regime was "infuriating urban Afghans" with bureaucracy and repression? Could it be that this repression was largely in part due to the resistance of the feudal class? What should they have done, apologize to the rebels and give up?
some of the side effects of mister berziski war games.
1.5 half million dead , 13 000 americans dead, 4 million reffuges , 30 years of continous war.
why isnt berzinski telling us about the overthrowing of the king of afghanistan in 73, and the attempt to install dictatorship in afghanistan in 78 from the proamerican ruler?
Kudos to Paul Jay for yet another reminder of what good journalism actually looks like. And kudos to him for really beilieving that journalism is something as large as the task to deter society from repeating past mistakes. Somebodys got to do it and it apparently won't be elected officials. Expect some christmas gifts from me, RN. By the way, you shold drop the "the". Like buddy from Napster said to buddy from facebook in The Social Network, ïts "cleaner," And that seemed to work for facebook.
mujahaddein became the taliban.. and we did continue to finance them up until 9/11 actually but they didn't let us build a pipeline though there which is why we invaded I think. I'm talking about the communist goverment in 70s and earlier.
Actually, the "mass" in Afghanistan is the responsibility of the Soviet Union and the communist government they backed. We provided only a fraction of the arms and money for them to wage their wars.
@xMaXiMuSx It was in a state of Civil War before we ever went in there. We also never financed the Taliban. We financed (along with several other countries) the mujaheddin. The Taliban wasn't created until 1994 which was 5 years after the Russians left.
the afghans "don`t like foreigners with guns in their country", brzezinski says, and yet he fully endorses obama`s "business as usual" of the US going around the world mass-murdering predominantly third world country people and stealing their wealth and resources from under them!
brzezinski runs rings around paul jay, rhetorically, but does that make the bile he spouts truthful? nope.
make no mistake, this is newspeak for the politically interested by a highly intelligent psychopath...
Anti Semites - (noun) people who are hated by a certain category of Jews because they see that organized Jewish Supremacy is intricately linked to the Banker's Satanic Empire
9/11 was never done by Al-qauida....it is just myth created by neocons to justify any war as war against terrorrism,,,and why Iraq was attacked when it has nothing to do with 9/11 or Al-quaida...why Afghan war was put on back burnner and war in Iraq was given top priority...the flase flag 9/11 incident did give America a legetimacy to start a war but not putting its fingers in two pies proved disasterous....one pie at a time was betterr optoin,Now America has it ass hooked in Afghanistan,
Brzezinski is a truly "evil" man, obviously without conscience or willingness to accept his responsibility for the current U.S. entanglements. To learn more about this subject visit the Global Political Awakening Blogspot!
So under the communists there was going to be social justice which was brought down with the help of the USA. Funny how the US creates it's own monsters.
Afghanistan would have been a better place under the communists.
@CheeezMaster So the US puppet goverment isn't imposed? except there is no social justice, just imposition from foreign invaders after their opium fields.
@MegaLotusEater From 1992-2003; the sanctions were revised so that Iraq could in effect extort limitless supplies of humanitarian goods from the UN. Iraq refused to accept the offer until 1997, and from that point on only allowed the UN to distribute the aid in certain parts of the country. In those parts where the UN did so, there was a massive net gain in human life from what would have been expected in the ABSENSE of sanctions (meaning if Iraq had to compete for goods w/out coercion).
There was a net loss in human life in those places where Saddam was given the aid to distribute himself. But Saddam had the same supplies the UN administrators did. The State Department investigated the causes of this disparity in 1999; and found that the reason for the net loss rather than net GAIN in human life (for the SANCTIONS regime, ostensibly a punishment) was that Saddam was deliberately starving his people in order to use them as hostages to protest the policy.
Saddam in total killed 1.5 million or so Iraqis. We overthrew him in an invasion that killed 5,000 Iraqis. While no one disputes that tens of thousands have died since then; what is not widely understood is that only about 1,200 of the 150,000 dead were killed by US forces.
The rest were killed by the terrorists we were fighting. They would have killed far more without us being there to stop them. Saddam’s regime would have imploded anyway. The consequences of this implosion would also have happened anyway
On Vietnam; to go by R. J. Rummel’s stats: The renewed offensive from 1973-1975 killed 300,000 individuals. The North Vietnamese Communists killed 1.8 million individuals from 1945 to 1975, and 1,000,000 S. Vietnamese and 1,000,000 North Vietnamese from 1975 to 1987. The Vietnamese occupation of and allied regime in Cambodia killed over 1,000,000 individuals; while the most authoritative studies show 2.3 million deaths at the hands of the Khmer Rouge. The Laotian regime killed 200,000 more.
Again, you might want to look at how many of the 1.5 to 2.5 million Indochinese who died in combat from 1955 to 1975 were actually killed by American firepower. And America MURDERED none of them. The aggressor, who invaded and set out to conquer all of his neighbors—thus starting the war—murdered every last one of them.
The Afghan war has killed only about 20-30,000 individuals since 2001. Only a fool would pretend that Afghanistan was better off under Mullah Omar and the Taliban, and everyone knows this (even those who deny it).
There are no “hundreds of thousands” killed in Latin America to speak of. That notion is fantasy. The real killing of hundreds of thousands is happening in Cuba. And only Guatemala has any legitimate claim against the US (our regime there lasted only 3 years and killed a few hundred people).
In closing, let me just remind you that the USSR killed 62 million of its own people from 1917 to 1983, while Maoist China killed 76 million Chinese from 1949 on. The German Socialists killed only 20 million people by comparison. Why Commies resent being compared to Nazis I cannot fathom. If anything, Nazis ought to be offended when they are compared with Communists.
@EkajTheSwordsman *propagandist alert* say that to the people killed by the contras or to the dictactors you funded you bastards tell that to my uncle fighting against your proxies in angola .!. fucking USA pigs ,i hope the people of america wake up and kick their lying politics asses out of the country .
How could anyone take the claims of the bloodiest butcher and worst aggressor in history, Soviet Russia, over the claims of America, the most moral nation in history? The Russians killed 1-2 million Afghans trying to conquer their country. We ousted the Taliban with only 300 troops.
Live by the sword and die by the sword. So all you bible toting bombers will surely die by the same analogy... (YEAH!) Then the world will know PEACE..........
Brzezinski is absolutely right. The Soviets were determined to expand their hegemony abroad. They were poised to invade Poland and Northern Iran, they were starting civil wars throughout Latin America, and intervening in Angola. He urged Carter to do much more to deter the Soviets and went to extraordinary lengths to prevent the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
You write a lot, but it's simply regurgitation of institutionalised propaganda.
You might have heard about hindsight being 20/20? In Moscow's case, on the Afghanistan issue, and what would follow a policy of non-intervention on the SU's part (Taliban domination and US invasion) foresight was 20/20.
@EkajTheSwordsman "They were poised to invade Poland and Northen Iran"
Ummmm...okay.
"they were starting civil wars throughout Latin America"
A fabrication if ever there was one. The Latin American insurgencies were indigenous movements fighting against repressive US-backed establishments. They weren't "started" by the Soviets, anymore than the Afghan insurgency was "started" by the Americans.
@cayetanoluis "And when the critical moment came in December of 1980, when the Soviets were poised to intervene in Poland, we did everything we could to mobilize international opinion, to galvanize maximum international pressure on the Soviets, to convince the Soviets that we will not be passive." -Brzezinski in '97
Carter naively believed in detente and appeasement. He reacted with open-mouthed shock to the invasion, and only then began listening to the hawks. Military support to the mujahedeen would have deterred a Soviet invasion, and the support we offered brought the war to its inevitable conclusion in the swiftest manner possible and saved thousands of lives. It deterred the Soviets ambitions in Poland and Iran.
@MissDreamingOflove Most Afghans reviled the Russians, who slaughtered 2 million Afghans, wounded millions, drove millions into refugee status, left millions at risk of death by starvation and disease, and reduced the country's population by 1/3.
Most Afghans did not want to be used as pawns for the liberation of Eastern Europe.
Why didn't Brzezinski arm his native Poles to fight guerrilla war against the Soviets? Wasn't it that he preferred for some faraway Asians to die instead? Nobody wants their own family to die,so it's better to get somebody else's family to die in their place. How convenient for Asians to die in large numbers so that Europeans can reap the benefits. How very predictable of Europeans to want this
I've long suspected that the Soviet invasion was the inevitable result of US isolationism and appeasement, that the Soviets would have lost anyway, that the Taliban would have seized power anyway, and that the French interview was an absurd, depraved left-wing fabrication that wildly contradicts everything else Brzezinski has said before or since. I'm glad to hear him confirm all of my suspicions.
The U.S. absolutely did the right thing helping the Mujahadeen fight the Soviets. With our help this conflict was the beginning of the end of communism. It was impossible to foresee the Mujahadeen turning on one another and Bin Laden creating an anti western terrorist network based out of Afghanistan. We did make the mistake of not trying to help create a stable national or provincial governments in Afghanistan. But nobody could have predicted the events that would occur decades later.
Interesting how Brzezinski's perspective is dehumanizing the cost of his human chess game. While Paul (The interviewer) Puts the true cost in human lives at the end. Is there really any other way to tally the crimes of these supposed intellectuals who play with nations as toys all the time distancing themselves from the atrocities by claiming they're hands do not have a decidedly red tint to them. How wrong you are Mr Brzezinski. There is blood on your hands. We see it even if you don't.
Zbig's people and many of their realpolitik followers actually see themselves as saviors. Almost how the rhetoric that the atom bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima ended the war quicker, thereby saving thousands of lives, entered mainstream historical analysis; these people believe that their actions and policies were wholly necessary. Or at least sold it to the decision makers that way.
hey guys this smart guy is the one wich gave us freedom in east europe, well if u do t like him u think u gona like chinese doing "same" stuff, just remeber chinese record of human rights abuse
he maybe looks cruel but todays russia is child of mongolic golden horde vassal, the moscow duchy and not of real russia the kievan russia, (premongolic one), so they are depotic and no democracy, and chinese also, u wanna them to look every day on news??
Make no mistake about it folks - Brzezenski is very intelligent man - a thinking man - if i had to guess i would say his chessgame is very hard to defeat - emphasis on chess - he is playing a very intensed game with politics and armies - a dangerous man - Brzezenski - most definitely a agent of satan - would be wise to watch his every move... do not sleep on this man - he is of the devil.
Who said the USA was the pillar of moral standard - not I - ill be the first to admit that the USA along with with israel and untimately the british royal family are the biggest and filthest terrorist animals known to man
of Afghan ets in the Sahel in North Africa comments are, they arrived even Yemenis el houtiyine AQMI or 2011 or 2040 no peace without war didn't force you lived in the country or exterminated letrrorsime children of women ets innocencents they have international support is called the god of acocats ...
what the fuck is the difference between the taliban and al queda, and when did they teamup and how?? And when did al queda team up with Sadam hussein??? or did they?
WickedMo13, the simple, quick & dirty answer: the difference is that Al Qaeda is a private terrorist organization with OBL at the head, and the Taliban was the fundamentalist islamic leadership of Afghanistan that emerged after the civil war.
Both spawned from or were influened by the CIA-sponsored mujahideen, who fought the Russians.
The Taliban sheltered/condoned the presence of Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan.
There is a lot more to it, and there is lot of dispute about these facts.
WickedMo13, I recommend you watch the BBC documentary series "The Power of Nightmares", which explains this partially, though not always perfectly correct.
Then U.S. demonized everyone else while it pulls the same deadly wars of attrition as ploys for "democracy". All ploys. We have no victory. Just more confusion.
Bush shows lots of evidence before invade Iraq. All the World knows now this is the biggest lie done by Bush and international community need to bear it rest of their life.
Iran invade is vital for USA's multi-billion dollar weapon business and Oil trade by US Dollar by force. China will loss economy in long run because USA will not give China a drop of Iranian Oil after invading Iran. Its all about Business of trillion Dollar and gear up US economy by doing another profitable WAR.
A truly independen media gets everyone's opinion. For me (and for a lot of people) it's very interesting to see the Devil himself giving his own point of view.
And it's interesting to see how he has NO moral conscience at all.
An armed insurgency did not start from small tribal people, the US CIA armed them from the start.HE is so full of shit about the PLO they were just fighting like the Mujaheddin were.
Prior to the Communist rule in Afghanistan, my own mother went to school and college in Kandahar, Afghanistan in the 70s. Kandahar is probably the most conservative city in Afghanistan, yet they didn't ban women from attending school or going to higher university or from attaining high-level jobs.
The Communists were murderers. I'm glad that they were kicked out.
Lovelivepalestine: I see where you're coming from, but obviously you weren't support of the progressive and liberalising reforms of the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA). Nur Muhammad Taraki was a good Chairman, it was simply a shame that Khalq and Parcahmi were so divided. Under the era of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the Afghan health system, education system, and the position of women reached a peak.
"Real" News pushing the BS that 911 was planned in caves in Afghaistan? as if they planned the attack on a day with scores of norad exercises, placed put options, called in FEMA before it should, contacted Odigo, Emtpied out Vaults in the WTC before, sprinkled nanotermite in the dust, flew cercles around the Pentagon without being shot down while Cheney is briefed periodically, got US military anthrax,etc
That Propaganda is already pushed by MSM, we dont need phoney independant news
Did you catch the Bush/Cheney government Kosherpigshit lies that 911 attacks were because of Bin Ladin and his hatred towards Americans. Please stop with the crap slinging, 911 attacks were staged by Billy Goat Clinton and Rabid Sharon and approved by Presnut Bushelofshit.{:^/
I was lecturing this same topic this past week, what a trip...Brzezinski, would spend at any cost, at any price what ever it takes to kill a Russian...
Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski the Poland from Warsaw has no regrets and is seated at the Obama Foreign Policy Table and Iran is in their Sights.
If Iran is in Brzezinskis sight, why does he advice to interdict Israel Airstrikes and warns, that a war against Iran would end for America AND Israel in a desaster?
@BusterXXXL Could he possibly be in the doublespeak, doubletalk regions of old and true politics of confusion? It would make total sense. Kissinger pulls this out from time to time. Continuing to be a mystery while faking for war and running raps for several administrations. Although he seems to have slowed down.
Brzezinski has been actively involved in US forming foreign policy for decades. The failure of that policy is apparent to everyone. Why in the world is he still consulted by any leader? His opinions and influence has been disastrous for this country. That he continues to be involved in teaching and lecturing is an insult to education and higher learning. He should be discredited at every opportunity.
insult to education and learning? like youre a scholar of history?!! the british empire couldnt take afghanistan. the soviets couldnt. what makes u think a crumbling US can? who do u think youre fighting there? bin laden? the 9/11 guys? what do u think theyre fighting for? like vietnam, i doubt u understand THEIR reasons.
How long have you been a flaming moron, all your life, or only since you've been able to pick your nose? I'm not advocating US involvement in Afghanistan, you idiot.
besides going off tangent, my gripe with your point concerned - "That he continues to be involved in teaching and lecturing is an insult to education and higher learning".
theres no such thing. one can still learn from this guy - beit learning what not to do (again)
How true. But that is not my point. That is not what he is doing as an educator; teaching others to not follow his teachings, i.e., to not do what he actually advocates. He actually believes the crap he teaches. That is what I object to; teaching others the crap he believes in, thereby perpetuating the same crap.
yeah i get what you mean. he's morally a monstrosity. but to study such a monster, surely thru study one can find a weakness.
the key, and major struggle is to enlighten the populace. much like what the french were (before sarko). displacing xxday night football is the hard part!
a half-enlightenment and you end up with those wackos who equate obama with king george or stalin! sure the went to school but they might as well as just kearnt the alphabet, to count and got out of there
Good, quality work by Mr. Jay. Although he was somewhat reverential to ZB., (in order to get the interview), at the end he provided a well written and sober assesment on the subject.
C'mon ziggy! If they could have done it by themselves, why did the US get involved? Most of us commenters know the reaons and can see through his bullshit.
I'm surprised Jay got this interview. He couldn't grill him too hard methinks, or ziggy'd just get up and leave, or make the real news network leave.
With all that is said in the interview, I wonder what he ISN'T telling us.
Like the book says "The Grand Chess Game".
A "Game" has: rules, players, an Arbiter and finally an ultimate goal. What the ultimate goal is is anyones guess. World Domination?
The US already has great global control and influence but I wonder what the future will look like with the rise of Central Asian countries. Probably revert back to a cold war status (one theory).
I wish we could shut down every media in the U.S and put this guys on may be these stupid Americans would wake up and see what they have down to this part of the world.
The Afghan socialists most certainly had domestic support or they would not have been able to survive for three years after the withdrawl of Soviet troops in 1989 - In fact the Afghan socialist government outlasted the USSR. When Brezezinski talks about "Afghans" he means the reactionaries who wanted to keep their country in the dark ages - his sort of people, the ones the U.S. armed, trained and financed.
Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your mask You fasten the triggers For others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets high You hide in your mansion As young peoples blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud Youve thrown the worst fear That can never be hurled Fear to bring children
into the world You aint worth the blood that runs in your veins Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy back your soul Do you think that it could I think you will find When death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul I hope that you die And your death comes soon I will follow your casket in the cold afternoon and I'll watch while your lowered into your deathbed I'll stand o'er your grave TILL I AM SURE YOU ARE DEAD
Five stars does not say enough.. When talking about lives lost, he gave a look like "what is your point" I can not get over the number of people who could care less about Governments killing people with Missiles and then calling them Miliatants.
If people love people, they should hate Government. We have them to protect us, not to harrass and drain us, then kill people in our name. Sad.
so many soviet comrades died in this war because fat capitalist guys ware giving dirty green papper to some retarded fanatics..... Soviets builded a powerplant and afghans had electricity for the first time in their history...Im not even talking about houses hospitals and schools
The Soviets also actively tried to destroy the two most important things the Afghan people have; their religion and their tribal social hierarchy. The Afghan people have spent the last 4000 years just fine with no electricity or equal distribution of wealth. The reality is that most people would rather keep their traditional way of life then trade it for modern conveniences and political practices.
People can live without electricity if they want to, but the hierarchy system had to disappear as it should in the rest of the world...
And yeah religion emancipation should happen smoother in places with such high religious beliefs it was a mistake imo to be so radical about it, atheism keeps lots of people away from socialism...
And also I would rather say: "the elite would rather keep their traditional [...]"
Next on the invasion list: Yemen, Somalia, and Egypt, for the purpose of gaining control of the strait of Aden and Suez Canal so Syria is cornered into meeting the US's price demands for oil or be blocked from shipping. Somalia is being starved out, and is already militarized b/c of "pirates". Yemen is under the lazer. Egypt knows it's next, that's why it's cooperating with Israel in blocking Gaza, even though it alienates them from other arab countries. US hits two birds with one stone.
For years, we have used the Saudis to distribute military weapons to questionable regimes, a way to bypass the long standing U.S. Law that forbids the distribution of offensive weapons to foreign governments. A tactic the CIA learned from the British to avoid direct involvement in certain foreign military adventures. We have been directly violating this law for years by giving such weapons directly to Israel to use against Palestine and other players in the Middle East.
I'd like to see more of these types of videos. Going after people like this, rather than interviewing people who are more sympathetic to the anti-imperialist cause.
To my ears, in the first part, Brzezinski stated central Asia has important natural resources and that the US should have influence there, but then exclaims we are not there for the energy resources.
Should have asked him how does it feel being directly responsible for 9/11?
And Brzezinski claiming he was never more than an "adviser" is laughable. That man has sat in every closed door war discussion for the last 30 years. "The Grand Chessboard" is the war politicians bible for American global hegemony.
@czubspenx While I agree the U.S. does sometimes put it's nose where it shouldn't. And Iraq is the best example of this. Let's not forget that Al-Qaeda launched attacks on us from Afghanistan. We were obligated after that to go to war with terrorism. Which is not just a problem for America but the world. Yes we also are involved in activities against Iran's nuclear program. But countries like Saudi Arabia and India have asked us to get involved. Some Middle Eastern countries welcome our help.
@mrmwest09 The question is which nobody ever wants to answer is, why do they hate us? It's really so simple to understand. We are occupying their land. Now, if someone you sort of kind of didn't like moved in down the street, well, that's one thing, Then, before you know it, they have set up camp in your backyard. Next, they shoot your dog and now they're living in your spare bedroom. Well, you'd probably launch an attack agains them, too.
@czubspenx You make very valid points. Why do they hate us? Some of them are extremists that just hate not only us but anyone who doesn't live by their distorted interpretation of strict Muslim ideology. Then there are a large number of Afghanies who hate us for the very reasons you write about. Them seeing us as invaders. That is where we have failed. Not doing more to protect the population from the radicals and being much more careful about civilian casualties.
@czubspenx We have also failed in our communication with the people of Afghanistan. Tell them we have no intentions in being occupiers of their country. We are there to help them rid their country of violent radicals. As long as these elements have refuge in there country they can never prosper and grow. Showing them a path of stability with a national government under the peoples control with no U.S. presence and an Afghanistan moving towards the 21st century with economic growth.
@mrmwest09 I am definitely not into nation building. No, that's not for me. I truly believe those people have the right to be left alone. The don't need the U.S. coming in and telling them how to lead their lives. If the US would quit occupying foreign land, which is totally against our constitution, the war on terror would be over. The only reason we are in these perpetual wars is so the Military Industrial Complex can make billions of dollars.
@czubspenx I am not particular into nation building either. Especially in a country stuck in midevil times. But if we don't do some type of nation building security will be unachievable for the Afghan people. If we did just up and leave Afghanistan the war on terror would just end up escalating. With that safe haven again why wouldn't you think Al-Qeada would carry out another 9/11 or something worse on the U.S. We weren't over there anywhere when they carried out all the previous attacks.
@czubspenx It is nice and a relief to carry on a conversation with an intelligent person on a subject as serious as this without name calling and profanities being slung around. It sickens me when people try to talk about these important world affairs and resort to personal attacks. Showing respect for someones opinion even if it differs from yours. I applaud you for your opinions and the intelligent civil way you present them, I just wish more people could act like this on the internet.
@MissDreamingOflove I don't say Al-Qaeda attacked America. Al-Qaeda says they were responsible for September 11th attacks. Bin Laden says his organization carried out the attacks. And it may have taken a decade plus later but he paid for it with his life.
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Brzezinski is a PSYCHOPATH, probably a victim of sexual abuse in his childhood years
xposelite 2 months ago
polish jew...kurwa jebana...brzezinski ur a traitor..
Pete1987pl 4 months ago
@Pete1987pl He is more than a traitor He is Zionist Jew and works for tham this fucking Bastard!
xXxKINGLJxXx 2 months ago
@xXxKINGLJxXx
He is not jewish you idiot..
xMaXiMuSx 1 month ago
@xMaXiMuSx He works for The Israel Lobby IPAC!
xXxKINGLJxXx 1 month ago
ONLY HITLER KNEW THESE FUCKING PEOPLE, WERE ALL ABOUT USA, UK, AND ISRAEL. ONE DAY, ONE DAY US WILL COLLAPES TOO, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM. AND THEN IT WILL BE THEIR TURN.
TheAdamjan1 5 months ago 3
Can someone recommend me books that can explain me things as the presenter of this program does.
Any relevant book will be very helpful and appreciated.
Thanks
FarhadTv 6 months ago
we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
whatis-theplan(dot)org
KarainFoE 7 months ago
wait a minute...so the US wanted the russians to enter afghanistan? but i also read somewhere that on of the biggest fear of the americans was the presence of soviet influence in states in the Persian Gulf...so were they so confident that the soviets can`t win? anyway i belive the truth is that CIA agents taught the afgans to make bombs and to asasinate....strange...
SamsonLeonVA 8 months ago
This is good.
BTinHD 9 months ago
Why did you have to perpetuate capitalist propaganda by claiming the Afghan socialist regime was "infuriating urban Afghans" with bureaucracy and repression? Could it be that this repression was largely in part due to the resistance of the feudal class? What should they have done, apologize to the rebels and give up?
AAmirkhanov 1 year ago
Glen Beck Loves War. He is a Fake Christian!!! I hate Fake Christians. Fake Christians= Conservatives.
Trcls 1 year ago
@Trcls Most religous people are assholes
dreamtime182 3 months ago
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goatman257 1 year ago
some of the side effects of mister berziski war games.
1.5 half million dead , 13 000 americans dead, 4 million reffuges , 30 years of continous war.
why isnt berzinski telling us about the overthrowing of the king of afghanistan in 73, and the attempt to install dictatorship in afghanistan in 78 from the proamerican ruler?
a true humanist indeed.
amet1980 1 year ago 2
Kudos to Paul Jay for yet another reminder of what good journalism actually looks like. And kudos to him for really beilieving that journalism is something as large as the task to deter society from repeating past mistakes. Somebodys got to do it and it apparently won't be elected officials. Expect some christmas gifts from me, RN. By the way, you shold drop the "the". Like buddy from Napster said to buddy from facebook in The Social Network, ïts "cleaner," And that seemed to work for facebook.
ConsuescoCoaegresco 1 year ago 2
Morals & conscience are "liberal values" to Brzezinski
TheyLiveWeStillSleep 1 year ago 3
@TheyLiveWeStillSleep i didnt think it got much more liberal than this waste of space.
MrPrinceOFpa 3 months ago
this man seethes vileness, a very brilliant and terrifying man
shadowsenshi 1 year ago
After all this time he still spell Mujahedeen wrong! He calls them MuHajedeen :D (02:45)
karkour69 1 year ago
WMD?? Weapons of Mass Deception
openbreakwhat 1 year ago
mujahaddein became the taliban.. and we did continue to finance them up until 9/11 actually but they didn't let us build a pipeline though there which is why we invaded I think. I'm talking about the communist goverment in 70s and earlier.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
What's amazing is that we craeted the mass in Afganistant and most of the world.. The world in conflict benefits commerical interests.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
@xMaXiMuSx
Actually, the "mass" in Afghanistan is the responsibility of the Soviet Union and the communist government they backed. We provided only a fraction of the arms and money for them to wage their wars.
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101
dude AFganistant was a solid country under the "communist' rule..
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
@xMaXiMuSx Seriously?
Tim1101 1 year ago
@Tim1101
It was... It's when we started interfering by financing the taliban that we created the mess..
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
@xMaXiMuSx It was in a state of Civil War before we ever went in there. We also never financed the Taliban. We financed (along with several other countries) the mujaheddin. The Taliban wasn't created until 1994 which was 5 years after the Russians left.
Tim1101 1 year ago
the afghans "don`t like foreigners with guns in their country", brzezinski says, and yet he fully endorses obama`s "business as usual" of the US going around the world mass-murdering predominantly third world country people and stealing their wealth and resources from under them!
brzezinski runs rings around paul jay, rhetorically, but does that make the bile he spouts truthful? nope.
make no mistake, this is newspeak for the politically interested by a highly intelligent psychopath...
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What resources do we steal? We don't mass murder anybody. Maybe you should drop the "liberal talking points for dummies" and read a book.
Tim1101 1 year ago
Anti Semites - (noun) people who are hated by a certain category of Jews because they see that organized Jewish Supremacy is intricately linked to the Banker's Satanic Empire
euro944t 1 year ago
9/11 was never done by Al-qauida....it is just myth created by neocons to justify any war as war against terrorrism,,,and why Iraq was attacked when it has nothing to do with 9/11 or Al-quaida...why Afghan war was put on back burnner and war in Iraq was given top priority...the flase flag 9/11 incident did give America a legetimacy to start a war but not putting its fingers in two pies proved disasterous....one pie at a time was betterr optoin,Now America has it ass hooked in Afghanistan,
CYGNUS609 1 year ago
Brzezinski is a truly "evil" man, obviously without conscience or willingness to accept his responsibility for the current U.S. entanglements. To learn more about this subject visit the Global Political Awakening Blogspot!
GLOBALPOLITICALAWAKE 1 year ago
So under the communists there was going to be social justice which was brought down with the help of the USA. Funny how the US creates it's own monsters.
Afghanistan would have been a better place under the communists.
coltzin12 1 year ago
@coltzin12 Calling an imposed communist dictatorship on a sovereign state "social justice".
Oh my god.
CheeezMaster 1 year ago
@CheeezMaster So the US puppet goverment isn't imposed? except there is no social justice, just imposition from foreign invaders after their opium fields.
coltzin12 1 year ago
Has there been any videos why Saudi Arab is sending big $s in Pakistan or Afghanistan?
davidperi 1 year ago
slavic piece of shit...
feyzu66 1 year ago
Like it or not, Brzezinski is not stupid and he's not sucker.
t3rmin41 1 year ago
@MegaLotusEater From 1992-2003; the sanctions were revised so that Iraq could in effect extort limitless supplies of humanitarian goods from the UN. Iraq refused to accept the offer until 1997, and from that point on only allowed the UN to distribute the aid in certain parts of the country. In those parts where the UN did so, there was a massive net gain in human life from what would have been expected in the ABSENSE of sanctions (meaning if Iraq had to compete for goods w/out coercion).
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
There was a net loss in human life in those places where Saddam was given the aid to distribute himself. But Saddam had the same supplies the UN administrators did. The State Department investigated the causes of this disparity in 1999; and found that the reason for the net loss rather than net GAIN in human life (for the SANCTIONS regime, ostensibly a punishment) was that Saddam was deliberately starving his people in order to use them as hostages to protest the policy.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
Saddam in total killed 1.5 million or so Iraqis. We overthrew him in an invasion that killed 5,000 Iraqis. While no one disputes that tens of thousands have died since then; what is not widely understood is that only about 1,200 of the 150,000 dead were killed by US forces.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
The rest were killed by the terrorists we were fighting. They would have killed far more without us being there to stop them. Saddam’s regime would have imploded anyway. The consequences of this implosion would also have happened anyway
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
On Vietnam; to go by R. J. Rummel’s stats: The renewed offensive from 1973-1975 killed 300,000 individuals. The North Vietnamese Communists killed 1.8 million individuals from 1945 to 1975, and 1,000,000 S. Vietnamese and 1,000,000 North Vietnamese from 1975 to 1987. The Vietnamese occupation of and allied regime in Cambodia killed over 1,000,000 individuals; while the most authoritative studies show 2.3 million deaths at the hands of the Khmer Rouge. The Laotian regime killed 200,000 more.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
Again, you might want to look at how many of the 1.5 to 2.5 million Indochinese who died in combat from 1955 to 1975 were actually killed by American firepower. And America MURDERED none of them. The aggressor, who invaded and set out to conquer all of his neighbors—thus starting the war—murdered every last one of them.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
The Afghan war has killed only about 20-30,000 individuals since 2001. Only a fool would pretend that Afghanistan was better off under Mullah Omar and the Taliban, and everyone knows this (even those who deny it).
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
There are no “hundreds of thousands” killed in Latin America to speak of. That notion is fantasy. The real killing of hundreds of thousands is happening in Cuba. And only Guatemala has any legitimate claim against the US (our regime there lasted only 3 years and killed a few hundred people).
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
In closing, let me just remind you that the USSR killed 62 million of its own people from 1917 to 1983, while Maoist China killed 76 million Chinese from 1949 on. The German Socialists killed only 20 million people by comparison. Why Commies resent being compared to Nazis I cannot fathom. If anything, Nazis ought to be offended when they are compared with Communists.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman *propagandist alert* say that to the people killed by the contras or to the dictactors you funded you bastards tell that to my uncle fighting against your proxies in angola .!. fucking USA pigs ,i hope the people of america wake up and kick their lying politics asses out of the country .
MissDreamingOflove 1 year ago
@MissDreamingOflove Um, did you support the former Communist dictatorship in Nicaragua that killed thousands and thousands of people?
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman but you did?
MissDreamingOflove 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman, the Contras killed a lot of innocent people
manofsan 1 year ago
How could anyone take the claims of the bloodiest butcher and worst aggressor in history, Soviet Russia, over the claims of America, the most moral nation in history? The Russians killed 1-2 million Afghans trying to conquer their country. We ousted the Taliban with only 300 troops.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman : What about the 2 million or so Iraqis we've killed since the sanctions commenced after the Gulf War?
And the millions we've killed in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia?
And the 100,000s we've killed in Latin America?
And the 100,000s we've killed in Afghanistan? etc etc etc etc
Or are you having a laugh? 300 troops? What are you talking about?
MegaLotusEater 1 year ago
Live by the sword and die by the sword. So all you bible toting bombers will surely die by the same analogy... (YEAH!) Then the world will know PEACE..........
CarlaSun2001 1 year ago
Brzezinski is absolutely right. The Soviets were determined to expand their hegemony abroad. They were poised to invade Poland and Northern Iran, they were starting civil wars throughout Latin America, and intervening in Angola. He urged Carter to do much more to deter the Soviets and went to extraordinary lengths to prevent the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman
You write a lot, but it's simply regurgitation of institutionalised propaganda.
You might have heard about hindsight being 20/20? In Moscow's case, on the Afghanistan issue, and what would follow a policy of non-intervention on the SU's part (Taliban domination and US invasion) foresight was 20/20.
seseljsrs 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman "They were poised to invade Poland and Northen Iran"
Ummmm...okay.
"they were starting civil wars throughout Latin America"
A fabrication if ever there was one. The Latin American insurgencies were indigenous movements fighting against repressive US-backed establishments. They weren't "started" by the Soviets, anymore than the Afghan insurgency was "started" by the Americans.
cayetanoluis 1 year ago
@cayetanoluis "And when the critical moment came in December of 1980, when the Soviets were poised to intervene in Poland, we did everything we could to mobilize international opinion, to galvanize maximum international pressure on the Soviets, to convince the Soviets that we will not be passive." -Brzezinski in '97
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman
"and intervening in Angola"
Which, according to former Chief of Station John Stockwell, was in RESPONSE to American involvement.
cayetanoluis 1 year ago
Carter naively believed in detente and appeasement. He reacted with open-mouthed shock to the invasion, and only then began listening to the hawks. Military support to the mujahedeen would have deterred a Soviet invasion, and the support we offered brought the war to its inevitable conclusion in the swiftest manner possible and saved thousands of lives. It deterred the Soviets ambitions in Poland and Iran.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman "Carter naively believed in detente and appeasement."
Actually, Khrushchev did. He initated a reduction in Soviet military forces; Kennedy responded with a massive increase of American spending.
cayetanoluis 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman saved thousands of lives? say that to the afghanis..
MissDreamingOflove 1 year ago
@MissDreamingOflove Most Afghans reviled the Russians, who slaughtered 2 million Afghans, wounded millions, drove millions into refugee status, left millions at risk of death by starvation and disease, and reduced the country's population by 1/3.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
@EkajTheSwordsman,
Most Afghans did not want to be used as pawns for the liberation of Eastern Europe.
Why didn't Brzezinski arm his native Poles to fight guerrilla war against the Soviets? Wasn't it that he preferred for some faraway Asians to die instead? Nobody wants their own family to die,so it's better to get somebody else's family to die in their place. How convenient for Asians to die in large numbers so that Europeans can reap the benefits. How very predictable of Europeans to want this
manofsan 1 year ago
I've long suspected that the Soviet invasion was the inevitable result of US isolationism and appeasement, that the Soviets would have lost anyway, that the Taliban would have seized power anyway, and that the French interview was an absurd, depraved left-wing fabrication that wildly contradicts everything else Brzezinski has said before or since. I'm glad to hear him confirm all of my suspicions.
EkajTheSwordsman 1 year ago
The U.S. absolutely did the right thing helping the Mujahadeen fight the Soviets. With our help this conflict was the beginning of the end of communism. It was impossible to foresee the Mujahadeen turning on one another and Bin Laden creating an anti western terrorist network based out of Afghanistan. We did make the mistake of not trying to help create a stable national or provincial governments in Afghanistan. But nobody could have predicted the events that would occur decades later.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
Thank you Paul, Another very good real news investigative report!
workwillfreeyou 1 year ago
then the ussr got mired went broke and tore down the wall ... good thing ...yes?
charles98888 1 year ago
im surprised too
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2020peter 1 year ago
Satan's Footsoldier!
Rizky06 1 year ago 16
The USA - damnation of human civilisation. All people should unite and send the USA back in hell
ReDDDgo 1 year ago 3
what a zionist psychopath..
FireFlyWW 1 year ago 3
Interesting how Brzezinski's perspective is dehumanizing the cost of his human chess game. While Paul (The interviewer) Puts the true cost in human lives at the end. Is there really any other way to tally the crimes of these supposed intellectuals who play with nations as toys all the time distancing themselves from the atrocities by claiming they're hands do not have a decidedly red tint to them. How wrong you are Mr Brzezinski. There is blood on your hands. We see it even if you don't.
Saromatae 1 year ago 36
and what would u do with nations, yea i know u would do nothin...
udical 1 year ago
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Tim1101 1 year ago
Zbig's people and many of their realpolitik followers actually see themselves as saviors. Almost how the rhetoric that the atom bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima ended the war quicker, thereby saving thousands of lives, entered mainstream historical analysis; these people believe that their actions and policies were wholly necessary. Or at least sold it to the decision makers that way.
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r0ll0t0masi 1 year ago
Nice work Paul.
Diipole 1 year ago
It's so funny how the now called "terrorists" were called "the resistant"...
sinekonata 1 year ago
hey guys this smart guy is the one wich gave us freedom in east europe, well if u do t like him u think u gona like chinese doing "same" stuff, just remeber chinese record of human rights abuse
he maybe looks cruel but todays russia is child of mongolic golden horde vassal, the moscow duchy and not of real russia the kievan russia, (premongolic one), so they are depotic and no democracy, and chinese also, u wanna them to look every day on news??
udical 2 years ago
Udical is programmed for self-destruction...a sheep!
malairlostandfound 2 years ago
This guy is scum
DemiRonin 2 years ago 3
goddamn you get some good folks on here. good interviews. your stuff is top notch.
battim 2 years ago 2
Make no mistake about it folks - Brzezenski is very intelligent man - a thinking man - if i had to guess i would say his chessgame is very hard to defeat - emphasis on chess - he is playing a very intensed game with politics and armies - a dangerous man - Brzezenski - most definitely a agent of satan - would be wise to watch his every move... do not sleep on this man - he is of the devil.
swordjones 2 years ago
He just did what USA does every time a socialist/communist government takes place in a country: military or financial intervention.
Like in Viet Nam, Korea, Haïti, Cuba, Chile (America in general), and in Africa too, he wasn't the one to invent it... Neither were the US.
sinekonata 1 year ago
Who said the USA was the pillar of moral standard - not I - ill be the first to admit that the USA along with with israel and untimately the british royal family are the biggest and filthest terrorist animals known to man
swordjones 1 year ago
Agreed, no one said anything like that, I didn't imply you did either...
I just meant this is a normal routine, you could maybe write a primitive algorithm about it...
sinekonata 1 year ago
People like Brzezenski are much smarter than us. They should be making policy and not the unwashed masses.
FaaarLeft 2 years ago
of Afghan ets in the Sahel in North Africa comments are, they arrived even Yemenis el houtiyine AQMI or 2011 or 2040 no peace without war didn't force you lived in the country or exterminated letrrorsime children of women ets innocencents they have international support is called the god of acocats ...
shawnee2014 2 years ago
what the fuck is the difference between the taliban and al queda, and when did they teamup and how?? And when did al queda team up with Sadam hussein??? or did they?
WickedMo13 2 years ago
WickedMo13, the simple, quick & dirty answer: the difference is that Al Qaeda is a private terrorist organization with OBL at the head, and the Taliban was the fundamentalist islamic leadership of Afghanistan that emerged after the civil war.
Both spawned from or were influened by the CIA-sponsored mujahideen, who fought the Russians.
The Taliban sheltered/condoned the presence of Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan.
There is a lot more to it, and there is lot of dispute about these facts.
loccysmif 2 years ago 2
WickedMo13, I recommend you watch the BBC documentary series "The Power of Nightmares", which explains this partially, though not always perfectly correct.
loccysmif 2 years ago
He looks just like I imagine the Devil. Charming, intelligent and wiht a really cold heart .
shanaqbaimuru 2 years ago 2
Then U.S. demonized everyone else while it pulls the same deadly wars of attrition as ploys for "democracy". All ploys. We have no victory. Just more confusion.
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Bush shows lots of evidence before invade Iraq. All the World knows now this is the biggest lie done by Bush and international community need to bear it rest of their life.
Iran invade is vital for USA's multi-billion dollar weapon business and Oil trade by US Dollar by force. China will loss economy in long run because USA will not give China a drop of Iranian Oil after invading Iran. Its all about Business of trillion Dollar and gear up US economy by doing another profitable WAR.
MonsterIsrael 2 years ago
If there is a hell Brzezinski will BE THERE
A POLISH HITLER BEHIND THE SCENES.
zoticus1 2 years ago
Sorry to say but quite simply if The "real"news is interviewing this asshole they are as independent as FOX or CNN.
Who butters thy bread?
zoticus1 2 years ago
@zoticus1
A truly independen media gets everyone's opinion. For me (and for a lot of people) it's very interesting to see the Devil himself giving his own point of view.
And it's interesting to see how he has NO moral conscience at all.
shanaqbaimuru 2 years ago
Here we go with the propaganda!
An armed insurgency did not start from small tribal people, the US CIA armed them from the start.HE is so full of shit about the PLO they were just fighting like the Mujaheddin were.
Look at his body language from 5:00 on
HE IS FUCKING LYING
zoticus1 2 years ago 2
This video is extremely deceiving.
Prior to the Communist rule in Afghanistan, my own mother went to school and college in Kandahar, Afghanistan in the 70s. Kandahar is probably the most conservative city in Afghanistan, yet they didn't ban women from attending school or going to higher university or from attaining high-level jobs.
The Communists were murderers. I'm glad that they were kicked out.
Longlivepalestine 2 years ago 2
Lovelivepalestine: I see where you're coming from, but obviously you weren't support of the progressive and liberalising reforms of the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA). Nur Muhammad Taraki was a good Chairman, it was simply a shame that Khalq and Parcahmi were so divided. Under the era of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the Afghan health system, education system, and the position of women reached a peak.
teamofrivals1 2 years ago 2
"Real" News pushing the BS that 911 was planned in caves in Afghaistan? as if they planned the attack on a day with scores of norad exercises, placed put options, called in FEMA before it should, contacted Odigo, Emtpied out Vaults in the WTC before, sprinkled nanotermite in the dust, flew cercles around the Pentagon without being shot down while Cheney is briefed periodically, got US military anthrax,etc
That Propaganda is already pushed by MSM, we dont need phoney independant news
Rickdeckard2020 2 years ago 2
Did you catch the Bush/Cheney government Kosherpigshit lies that 911 attacks were because of Bin Ladin and his hatred towards Americans. Please stop with the crap slinging, 911 attacks were staged by Billy Goat Clinton and Rabid Sharon and approved by Presnut Bushelofshit.{:^/
geo1671 2 years ago
I was lecturing this same topic this past week, what a trip...Brzezinski, would spend at any cost, at any price what ever it takes to kill a Russian...
Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski the Poland from Warsaw has no regrets and is seated at the Obama Foreign Policy Table and Iran is in their Sights.
ubuibiok 2 years ago
If Iran is in Brzezinskis sight, why does he advice to interdict Israel Airstrikes and warns, that a war against Iran would end for America AND Israel in a desaster?
You are actually lecturing people?
BusterXXXL 2 years ago
@BusterXXXL Could he possibly be in the doublespeak, doubletalk regions of old and true politics of confusion? It would make total sense. Kissinger pulls this out from time to time. Continuing to be a mystery while faking for war and running raps for several administrations. Although he seems to have slowed down.
distressed7 2 years ago
Brzezinski has been actively involved in US forming foreign policy for decades. The failure of that policy is apparent to everyone. Why in the world is he still consulted by any leader? His opinions and influence has been disastrous for this country. That he continues to be involved in teaching and lecturing is an insult to education and higher learning. He should be discredited at every opportunity.
bbburton 2 years ago
insult to education and learning? like youre a scholar of history?!! the british empire couldnt take afghanistan. the soviets couldnt. what makes u think a crumbling US can? who do u think youre fighting there? bin laden? the 9/11 guys? what do u think theyre fighting for? like vietnam, i doubt u understand THEIR reasons.
ahoyhoy79 2 years ago
How long have you been a flaming moron, all your life, or only since you've been able to pick your nose? I'm not advocating US involvement in Afghanistan, you idiot.
bbburton 2 years ago
my bad.
ahoyhoy79 2 years ago
besides going off tangent, my gripe with your point concerned - "That he continues to be involved in teaching and lecturing is an insult to education and higher learning".
theres no such thing. one can still learn from this guy - beit learning what not to do (again)
ahoyhoy79 2 years ago
How true. But that is not my point. That is not what he is doing as an educator; teaching others to not follow his teachings, i.e., to not do what he actually advocates. He actually believes the crap he teaches. That is what I object to; teaching others the crap he believes in, thereby perpetuating the same crap.
bbburton 2 years ago
yeah i get what you mean. he's morally a monstrosity. but to study such a monster, surely thru study one can find a weakness.
the key, and major struggle is to enlighten the populace. much like what the french were (before sarko). displacing xxday night football is the hard part!
a half-enlightenment and you end up with those wackos who equate obama with king george or stalin! sure the went to school but they might as well as just kearnt the alphabet, to count and got out of there
ahoyhoy79 2 years ago
Its not about taking afghanistan, its about leaving without causing another civil war to flame up - else China might stop its foreign aid to the US.
BusterXXXL 2 years ago
Brzezinsky was the man who made Ronald Reagan look so good on TV, thats why
BusterXXXL 2 years ago
i c. well i believe its the americans duty to stay (and consequently die). thats what one gets for nation 'building' at the barrel of a gun.
ahoyhoy79 2 years ago
"They are fighters & they perfer to be Independent."
That's why we are wasting our time trying to take over Afghan.
pjt03 2 years ago 3
Good, quality work by Mr. Jay. Although he was somewhat reverential to ZB., (in order to get the interview), at the end he provided a well written and sober assesment on the subject.
wotan20 2 years ago
well a sober assesment is better than an anneabriated assesment anyday
LcoolJfiveoh 2 years ago
Sorry guy, but your remark has flew over me. I heard the word inebriated, (meaning: drunk) but anneabriated is still new to me. Plz. explain.
wotan20 2 years ago
C'mon ziggy! If they could have done it by themselves, why did the US get involved? Most of us commenters know the reaons and can see through his bullshit.
I'm surprised Jay got this interview. He couldn't grill him too hard methinks, or ziggy'd just get up and leave, or make the real news network leave.
Pomeray8 2 years ago 3
With all that is said in the interview, I wonder what he ISN'T telling us.
Like the book says "The Grand Chess Game".
A "Game" has: rules, players, an Arbiter and finally an ultimate goal. What the ultimate goal is is anyones guess. World Domination?
The US already has great global control and influence but I wonder what the future will look like with the rise of Central Asian countries. Probably revert back to a cold war status (one theory).
We live in interesting times indeed!
MMicro99 2 years ago 2
well put paul, you go get them.
If i had the cash I'd donate ;)
greenrots 2 years ago
I wish we could shut down every media in the U.S and put this guys on may be these stupid Americans would wake up and see what they have down to this part of the world.
saeidbah 2 years ago 3
The Afghan socialists most certainly had domestic support or they would not have been able to survive for three years after the withdrawl of Soviet troops in 1989 - In fact the Afghan socialist government outlasted the USSR. When Brezezinski talks about "Afghans" he means the reactionaries who wanted to keep their country in the dark ages - his sort of people, the ones the U.S. armed, trained and financed.
blackiron60 2 years ago
Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your mask You fasten the triggers For others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets high You hide in your mansion As young peoples blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud Youve thrown the worst fear That can never be hurled Fear to bring children
anolmec 2 years ago 4
into the world You aint worth the blood that runs in your veins Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy back your soul Do you think that it could I think you will find When death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul I hope that you die And your death comes soon I will follow your casket in the cold afternoon and I'll watch while your lowered into your deathbed I'll stand o'er your grave TILL I AM SURE YOU ARE DEAD
....dylan
anolmec 2 years ago
What are you doing? Prove him wrong on his middle eastern views... please stop going wee wee all the way home.
sinterics 2 years ago
Five stars does not say enough.. When talking about lives lost, he gave a look like "what is your point" I can not get over the number of people who could care less about Governments killing people with Missiles and then calling them Miliatants.
If people love people, they should hate Government. We have them to protect us, not to harrass and drain us, then kill people in our name. Sad.
btigtime2 2 years ago 4
so many soviet comrades died in this war because fat capitalist guys ware giving dirty green papper to some retarded fanatics..... Soviets builded a powerplant and afghans had electricity for the first time in their history...Im not even talking about houses hospitals and schools
skullrimer 2 years ago
The Soviets also actively tried to destroy the two most important things the Afghan people have; their religion and their tribal social hierarchy. The Afghan people have spent the last 4000 years just fine with no electricity or equal distribution of wealth. The reality is that most people would rather keep their traditional way of life then trade it for modern conveniences and political practices.
pythag123 2 years ago
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People can live without electricity if they want to, but the hierarchy system had to disappear as it should in the rest of the world...
And yeah religion emancipation should happen smoother in places with such high religious beliefs it was a mistake imo to be so radical about it, atheism keeps lots of people away from socialism...
And also I would rather say: "the elite would rather keep their traditional [...]"
sinekonata 1 year ago
@skullrimer
You're sooo right on each point, and it's hard to bring that up since communism is such a bad word...
sinekonata 1 year ago
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Next on the invasion list: Yemen, Somalia, and Egypt, for the purpose of gaining control of the strait of Aden and Suez Canal so Syria is cornered into meeting the US's price demands for oil or be blocked from shipping. Somalia is being starved out, and is already militarized b/c of "pirates". Yemen is under the lazer. Egypt knows it's next, that's why it's cooperating with Israel in blocking Gaza, even though it alienates them from other arab countries. US hits two birds with one stone.
Sarandib22 2 years ago
good interview with this old man. It looks like he's got the swine flu
sdjole 2 years ago 3
That is what too much blood on your hands looks like.
btigtime2 2 years ago
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Sarandib22 2 years ago
For years, we have used the Saudis to distribute military weapons to questionable regimes, a way to bypass the long standing U.S. Law that forbids the distribution of offensive weapons to foreign governments. A tactic the CIA learned from the British to avoid direct involvement in certain foreign military adventures. We have been directly violating this law for years by giving such weapons directly to Israel to use against Palestine and other players in the Middle East.
rltmlt 2 years ago
Brzezinski is a traitor to the entire human race.
jayrod59 2 years ago 4
your assuming that al-queida is a real group and that they were behind the 9/11 attacks.
chan0chap 2 years ago 3
I'd like to see more of these types of videos. Going after people like this, rather than interviewing people who are more sympathetic to the anti-imperialist cause.
Imperiused 2 years ago 7
@Imperiused
I agree with you!
mariocaric 2 years ago
To my ears, in the first part, Brzezinski stated central Asia has important natural resources and that the US should have influence there, but then exclaims we are not there for the energy resources.
TrueToSee 2 years ago 2
jay we really appreciate what you're doing
zayadnay 2 years ago 4
Hear hear!
Imperiused 2 years ago
briliant expose
boysdontcry17 2 years ago 3
Brzezinski is manipulative, lieing, anti human scumbag
snookdeloo 2 years ago 3
And Charlie Wilson?
SmoothDemocrat 2 years ago
Get him, Jay!
Oaltitudo 2 years ago 3
Should have asked him how does it feel being directly responsible for 9/11?
And Brzezinski claiming he was never more than an "adviser" is laughable. That man has sat in every closed door war discussion for the last 30 years. "The Grand Chessboard" is the war politicians bible for American global hegemony.
Mahoivlich 2 years ago 2
Superb piece. Bravo.
2020peter 2 years ago
The U.S. needs to keep its nose out of everyone else's business.
czubspenx 2 years ago 6
@czubspenx While I agree the U.S. does sometimes put it's nose where it shouldn't. And Iraq is the best example of this. Let's not forget that Al-Qaeda launched attacks on us from Afghanistan. We were obligated after that to go to war with terrorism. Which is not just a problem for America but the world. Yes we also are involved in activities against Iran's nuclear program. But countries like Saudi Arabia and India have asked us to get involved. Some Middle Eastern countries welcome our help.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
@mrmwest09 The question is which nobody ever wants to answer is, why do they hate us? It's really so simple to understand. We are occupying their land. Now, if someone you sort of kind of didn't like moved in down the street, well, that's one thing, Then, before you know it, they have set up camp in your backyard. Next, they shoot your dog and now they're living in your spare bedroom. Well, you'd probably launch an attack agains them, too.
czubspenx 1 year ago
@czubspenx You make very valid points. Why do they hate us? Some of them are extremists that just hate not only us but anyone who doesn't live by their distorted interpretation of strict Muslim ideology. Then there are a large number of Afghanies who hate us for the very reasons you write about. Them seeing us as invaders. That is where we have failed. Not doing more to protect the population from the radicals and being much more careful about civilian casualties.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
@czubspenx We have also failed in our communication with the people of Afghanistan. Tell them we have no intentions in being occupiers of their country. We are there to help them rid their country of violent radicals. As long as these elements have refuge in there country they can never prosper and grow. Showing them a path of stability with a national government under the peoples control with no U.S. presence and an Afghanistan moving towards the 21st century with economic growth.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
@mrmwest09 I am definitely not into nation building. No, that's not for me. I truly believe those people have the right to be left alone. The don't need the U.S. coming in and telling them how to lead their lives. If the US would quit occupying foreign land, which is totally against our constitution, the war on terror would be over. The only reason we are in these perpetual wars is so the Military Industrial Complex can make billions of dollars.
czubspenx 1 year ago
@czubspenx I am not particular into nation building either. Especially in a country stuck in midevil times. But if we don't do some type of nation building security will be unachievable for the Afghan people. If we did just up and leave Afghanistan the war on terror would just end up escalating. With that safe haven again why wouldn't you think Al-Qeada would carry out another 9/11 or something worse on the U.S. We weren't over there anywhere when they carried out all the previous attacks.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
@czubspenx It is nice and a relief to carry on a conversation with an intelligent person on a subject as serious as this without name calling and profanities being slung around. It sickens me when people try to talk about these important world affairs and resort to personal attacks. Showing respect for someones opinion even if it differs from yours. I applaud you for your opinions and the intelligent civil way you present them, I just wish more people could act like this on the internet.
mrmwest09 1 year ago
@mrmwest09 interesting you say al qaeda launched attacks against your country , but Bin Laden isnt wanted for 911... interesting isnt it?
MissDreamingOflove 1 year ago
@MissDreamingOflove I don't say Al-Qaeda attacked America. Al-Qaeda says they were responsible for September 11th attacks. Bin Laden says his organization carried out the attacks. And it may have taken a decade plus later but he paid for it with his life.
mrmwest09 7 months ago
Jay looks disgusted... like he ate a dog turd or something...
leeroynaggins 2 years ago
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid-day sun
hamletundone 2 years ago
good interview
pauland74 2 years ago