Marx is back

[IconsOfTeleplay]

The wonders of peer-review & consensus medicine & mercantilism/corporatism have enriched the U.S. w/: 95,000 deaths annually fr. easily-prevented-hospital-born­e staph infections, central-bank-printed counterfeit currency, the Dalkon Shield, mercury-preserved serums, chem-trails (aerial obscuration), the irradiation of the Arab World via depleted uranium, the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children under the "oil for food program," automobile air bags and the Americans with Disabilities' Act.

[IconsOfTeleplay]

Life expectancy for Indians was 25 in A.D. 1620. Tribesmen were ecstatic that whites could provide them w/muskets to slaughter their enemies: neighboring tribesmen. The good stewardship & egalitarianism of Indians is a creation of white revisionists. Indians practiced cannibalism, sacrifice, polygamy, sodomy, necromancy, incest & mutilation. The Puritans' mission was to bring order to the hellish existence of these unrepentant heathens as codified in the Mayflower Compact.

[IconsOfTeleplay]

I'll commune with nature but I'll not commune with communists.

[joaquinveyron]

The US fought against dictators and communism as well in other wars like the Vietnam war, although they obviously committed war crimes, without no doubt.

As well it is very interesting that you never heard NO OUTCRY whatsover when communist countries

- occupied and/or started war with other countries

- implemented a terror-based system in ALL communist countries

- sent tanks whenever people stood up for FREEDOM in communist countries

Where was the outcry of the left there??

[WSWarthog]

Marx is back, sponsored by Pedigee.

[DKGB84]

THE BANKERS, ECONOMISTS, POLITICIANS, FINANCIAL MANAGERS, MANY OF

THEM KNOW WHAT A GENIUS CARL MARX WAS, BUT THEY SIMPLY CANNOT

DIVIDE WITH YOU THEIR 3rd FERRARI, THEIR 2nd YACHT, OR ONE OF THEIR

PERSONAL JETS, OR MANY OF THEIR LUXURIOUS CASTLES. MARX WAS THAT KIND OF GENIUS WITH THE INTELLECTUAL POWER ABLE TO CREATE WEALTH FOR ALL, BUT THAT SIMPLY CANNOT BE ACCEPTED BY THE RICH PEOPLE. FOR EXAMPLE--> SAME WAY NIKOLA TESLA's IDEAS IN EM WERE DESTROYED BY THOMAS EDISON AND GOVERNMENT.

[joaquinveyron]

@DKGB84

"MARX WAS THAT KIND OF GENIUS WITH THE INTELLECTUAL POWER ABLE TO CREATE WEALTH FOR ALL"

Hahahahahahahahahhaha, good one, good one .. only that Marxist ideas and policies turn every country into a ROTTEN SHITHOLE, where people suffered from HUNGER; POVERTY and LACK of BASIC SUPPLIES.

But, I guess, you were joking, right??

[InterZlatan8]

@joaquinveyron Well, most of the countries where revolutions broke out were that already (that's why there was a revolution). And in some countries life got better (Cuba) and some got far worse (Korea). And in Russia life got worse after the fall of the USSR. Those last years under Gorbachev were better than what is currently happening there.

[DKGB84]

BECAUSE EVEN WHEN ONLY 1% OF THE WORLD HAS 95% OF RESOURCES UNDER CONTROL, THEY SIMPLY WANT MORE, MORE, MORE AND MORE. THEY WANT YOU TO BLEED, TO DIE FOR THEM, TO SACRIFICE EVERYTHING FOR THEM, THEY EVEN MADE YOU BELIEVE AND ACCEPT AS RULE OF NATURE, THAT LIFE IS HARD,AND AT THE END THEY SIMPLY TELL YOU TO VOTE THEM AGAIN SO THAT THEY CAN FIGHT THE CRISIS THEY CREATED. AT THE MOMENT YOU ARE STRIVING TO BUY A SMALL HOUSE, BANKERS ARE DECIDING TO BUY A PRIVATE TROPIC ISLAND. WHO CARES OF YOU MEN

[DKGB84]

FROM 2 CENTURIES THEY KEEP ON PROMISING WEALTH FOR YOU, AND WE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO DREAM ALWAYS THE SAME DREAM ALL TOGETHER, THAT ONE DAY EVEN US WILL HAVE OUR OWN PIECE OF WORLD. DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT STRANGELY IN 2008-2010 WHEN ALL PEOPLE WERE

GETTING POOR, WITHOUT A JOB, NO MORE HOUSE, THE RICH PEOPLE WERE GETTING EVEN RICHER AND RICHER AND RICHER. WITH YOU MONEY. YOU WORK, YOU SACRIFICE, YOU TRY TO MAKE SAVINGS, AND WHAT HAPPENS, SUDDENLY CRISIS. CRISIS IS THE TOOL USED TO TAKE YOU MONEY.

[DKGB84]

WHO WERE THE REAL LOSERS FROM LEHMAN BROTHERS COLLAPSE, DO YOU THINK THE OWNERS, NO SIMPLY THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR IT.MORE THAN 30% OF AMERICA'S RICHNESS COMES FROM FINANCIAL SERVICES, NOT PRODUCTION, NOT THINGS THAT YOU CAN TOUCH , BUT ONLY FINANCIAL PACKETS MANAGEMENT, TOXIC TITLES, DERIVATIVES. DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY PRICE YOU BASED EVEN IN THE AMOUNT OF SNOW FALLING TO YOUR REGION. DO YOU PEOPLE THINK THIS IS A GOOD SIGN, THIS ECONOMY IS SO FRAGILE, AS IT IS SOON COMING TO SUCCUMB HERSELF.

[DKGB84]

THIS IS FICTION IN A TRUE SAD REALITY. YOU THINK USA IS A GOOD PLACE TO BE, THINK AGAIN, MAYBE WE WERE JUST BETTER IN THE OLD DAYS WERE AT LEAST WE TOUCH MONEY, NOT JUST LOOK AT SOME NUMBER TRANSFERS FROM ONE CREDIT CARD TO ANOTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE HELL PEOPLE ARE SLEEPY AND DON'T OPEN THEIR EYES TO SEE THAT THEY ARE SACRIFICING THEMSELVES FOR THE BANKS. LIVING IN AN EVERYDAY DRAMA TO PAY EVERYTHING TO THE BANKS. WE ARE NOW SLAVES AS NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY. OUR MIND IS THE PRISONER NOW

[AustrianAtheist]

It is so funny, to see all the US-Americans judging, but not reading Marx. You have to get the bascics of his ideas, before dismissing them.

PS: I am not a marxist, but a moderate socialist

[aviomaster]

spitfire262 - Without raise of common man in Russia 1917 , there would be no middle class today in western Europe and USA.

[aviomaster]

JaguarmaniaX - Not communism that does not work, But Central planning of the economy does not work.

Capital is lost in the process. 

[spitfire262]

@aviomaster In a Communist society there would be no need for Capital so that doesn't matter

[JaguarmaniaX]

Thank you Marx for almost destroying religion

[AustrianAtheist]

Marx supported ignoring religion, he was clearly antagonizing anti-religous propganda and even argued that religion was a product of relations within a society. I guess, you have never read anything of Marx. He clearly supported the freedom of belief.

[JaguarmaniaX]

@AustrianAtheist Marx: Religion is the opiate of the masses.

[JaguarmaniaX]

Didn't they learned anything from East Germany? Communism doesn't work.

[ssmusic214]

@JaguarmaniaX  They learned that "new sucker is born every minute" who will believe that same old tune: "vote for me and I will give everything to everybody for free from the government". And they will will vote new bunch of "neo-crocks" like Obama in power.

[AustrianAtheist]

7000 people die every day of hunger, nearly one billion of the world population live in slums. A better world should be possible.

Just look at the US, 5% own 95%, which means that the other 95% share 5%. The quality of living for the poor is absurd low...but still it is a tabu to read Marx (who has not much to do with crimes committed nearly 100 years later in party dictatorships).

Wake up, Americans!

[ssmusic214]

@AustrianAtheist 5% own 95%????

Wel..... USSR was far worse: O.1% owned 99.9%

[AustrianAtheist]

The USSR was an evil party dictatorship. Neiter I nor Marx do promote it. So why do you mention it?

I am in favour of the Scandinavian model. However, both "hardcore capitalism", "social capitalism" (my personal opinion) and "party dictatorship" were not proposed by Marx.

[ssmusic214]

@AustrianAtheist Marx had no connection with reality ever. His theory was based on assumption that "proletariat" in near future was to grow exponentially and constitute overwhelming majority of human population. And of course they will all be Marxists and vote as single unit. And so Marxists will be winning all the democratic elections hands down all over the world. And "evil capitalists" will be the ones fighting against democracy. Reality turned out quite opposite.

[spitfire262]

@JaguarmaniaX Do you really think they were Marxist?

[seppbrandner]

long live marx!

[mackbk718]

The banks take our money and redistribute it to themselves.

[bmay1000]

funny how these marx supporters are using computers etc, built under the conditions of free markets and capitalism. under marx we would be thrown back into the days of the abbacus and crushing poverty. have these people not seen what happens when freedom of exchange is quelled and the profit motive demonized? you get romania, russia, north korea, zimbabwe, venezuala, cuba, and hate to say it, on its present course the USA. marx supporters are either insanely ignorant or insane.

[kingreich22]

@bmay1000 First off, you don't know what you are talking about. Marx understood that capitalism encourages innovation in technology and society. The crux of the issue is to encourage innovation in an alternative system where everyone benefits, not just the very few. Have you ever read Capital? Probably not. Marx is probably described the mechanisms and foundation of capitalism best. In that respect he is still relevant.

Marx lived in a capitalist society in Germany and England.

[kingreich22]

@bmay1000 .....furthermore he probably bought products (he would call it a commodity) himself that would be the equivalent to a computer in our age. Those marxists are utilizing certain commodities for daily life within the context of a capitalist society. The real question is how to have innovation technology in an alternative system.

The countries you named failed because of the authoritarian nature of their governments and lack of a industrial base.

[kingreich22]

@bmay1000 Marx idea was that the revolution that would give the labor control of production would actually be in an industrial economy (e.g. Germany), not agrarian one like Russia, North Korea, China, etc.

Furthermore, the US is going no where close to marxism, it's the opposite trend. You clearly don't understand what Marxism is if you think that the US is heading in that direction, that automatically invalidates your argument.

[bmay1000]

@kingreich22

i cannot get behind a movement in which its writer outlines the need to eliminate those who would counter his system (see communist manifesto). basing an economic model on the ability of the workers to buy back the product with the added measure of redistributing wealth is throwing the price system into the trash. what this always leads to is shortages and malinvestments. makes for great discussion but is a proven failure in the field.

[AustrianAtheist]

Read Marx vs. the Gothaer Programm, Marx really opposed redistributing as primitive social democrat idiocy (since the distribution of wealth is the result of certain Produktionsverhältnisse, it is absurd for him to redistribute wealth without changing the "relations of production")

However, the problem is: Many people see Marx as a tabu.

I do not agree with his ideas, but this cant be used as argument to ignore his work. Think about his theory of crisis or concept of Entfremdung

[kingreich22]

@bmay1000 Honestly, I don't think a viable form of marxism or its variants has been tried. The stalinist/leninist version failed because of the real lack of democracy in the state and also in the workplace. Wealth was spread around, but nobody really had the freedom to change the Soviet status-quo or improve it except some people on top in a committee.

What needs to happen is that the worker needs to have democracy in the place they work. Idealistic?...Possibly, but it is worth considering.

[bmay1000]

@kingreich22

marzism invariably leads to communism/ socialism due to its requirement of abolishing private property rights. central planning must take place in order to redistribute the wealth. the problem is gaining consensus among the various planners to agree on one goal. this in itself leads to totalitarian rule. marx fails to take into account basic human action, instead he attempts to change human behaviour and instinct, something which cannot be done without being held at gunpoint.

[NHTPC]

SICK! See what the murderers think?

[arzoyan]

As long as Capitalism rules, humanity will be in a prison planet of wage slavery,facing wars,poverty,exploitation,envi­ornmental destruction,animal cruelty of industrial proportions, ONLY by sharing the earth and cooperating for our common well being and needs in harmony ,can there be a meaningful ,truly creative social reality.We need to organise ourselves for a democratic majority,conscious revolutionary movement to transcend this insanity of minority rule

[stephenfs03]

Swagsloth, how can you equate the essence of Marx's analysis with the very top-down political structures of say China and Korea? These structures have more in common with 'Western' capitalist socities than the real participatory democracy, from below, in accordance with orthodox Marxism

[Swagsloth]

Tell all the refugees leaving North Korea and China how good Communism. Better yet, go there and live. You will come crying back to your capitalist country.

[ZakeD3]

Actually, most of the people in China who oppose the government in China are communists. China itself...well, it has less public ownership than places like Norway, Lithuania, Denmark. I suppose they're communism too, eh? I wouldn't mind living in Norway.

[dm18876]

But Marx acknoweldged capitalism as a step forward from feudalism. So by Marx's own logic the Chinese government are - even perhaps by default - building an industrial base that provides conditions for abundance, that allow a socialist revolution to sustain itself once Chinese working class movements gain power of the state.

[1234typeman]

@ZakeD3 write good english jerk,nobody can understands you

[slimv29]

@ZakeD3 Yeah, I kinda agree. The PRC isnt even close to Marxism. If the PRC was replaced by a more Communist or Marxist government, I think China would become a much more positive influence as long as it doesn't bother with Maoism.

[relativ6192]

@slimv29 i want maoism back in china

[joaquinveyron]

@relativ6192 "Allende HELPED and saved the economy in 3 years! "

Dipshit, look at the FACTS!!!

Allendes socialistic polices only led to the increase of prices of basic goods that were then only available at the black markets, high inflation (600 %), sky high debts which go hand in hand with inflation if you start printing money yourself, high unemployment, the decrease of the real income by somewhat 40 %. It is a school book example of what s going wrong when socialists are in power.

[joaquinveyron]

@slimv29 "south korea suffer from injustice, unemployment, "

You brainless leftish, monkey, South Koreans make 30 Times more than their communist counterparth in NK!! 4 Millions of NKoreans starved to death, you dipshit.

"nortk korea is called "juche""

Yeah, u dipshit, and juche includes>

- abolition of private equity&free market

- collectivization and planned economy

- "classless society"

... dipshit, this is all your brainless Marxist monkeys are about.

[InterZlatan8]

@joaquinveyron you know those guys in Silicon Valley who are inventing all these neat technologies for us all? Those guys don't have a boss. They collectively own their businesses, and share the net profit they earn equally. You wanna know where that idea came from? Karl Marx.

[joaquinveyron]

@InterZlatan8

I dont know what drugs you are taking. Please take simply less of it, will you??

Dipshit, the entrepreneurs are private entrepreneurs who also invest their own money or that of other businessmen in their inventions/techznologies. Thats the backbone of any successful CAPITALISTIC ECONOMY, you complete dimwit!!

What Marx wants is abolish private property /entrepreneurship, you brain amputated monkey!

[joaquinveyron]

@slimv29

"The PRC isnt even close to Marxism. I"

You are right. Thanks to 30 years of CAPITALISTIC REFORMS. China s GDP and wages have increased by the factor of 60!! A middle class of somewhat 200 mio. Chinese was created... while workers earned 0.10 EUR per day in 1970s/1980

You are right. China nowadays is - FORTUNATELY - far away from the Marxist bullshit that crippled the country before 1980!!

[slimv29]

@joaquinveyron Maoism doesn't count as Marxism either.

[joaquinveyron]

@ZakeD3

My HONEST THANKS go to our American partners and friends. Without them Western Europe probably would have become the SAME COMMUNISTIC SHOTHOLE that the Eastern bloc was. If someone disagrees, to hell with him. He or she should visit N KOrea, in which South Korea lalso would have turned into, if the US hadnt helped them. Thus, SKorean live in PROSPERITY and FREEDOM, while their NKorean counterparts live in a COMMUNIST CONCENTRATION CAMP.

[ZakeD3]

@joaquinveyron Not sure what that has to do with that old and actually somewhat inaccurate comment of mine...

[joaquinveyron]

@ZakeD3 Nothing.

[NeroroPuj]

lol. you think china and north korea are actually communist? haha! Just because koreas democratic peoples repuclis says that it is Communist, Democratic and republic doesn't make it so. North Korea is Capitalist Dictator Monarchy. You can compare it to Catholic church 700 year ago.

and what comes to china. China is as communist as USA is. you can't even get a proper free healthcare or proper free education in china like you can in Cuba.

[Swagsloth]

Thank god protected and privileged kids in class reading books have it figured out. May they become leaders of the world.

[ipwnorcs]

i want to take this class:(

[Giovannisenzaterra]

me too

[NepalmyPride]

karl marx is the winner.

[elcampesino1848]

George Orwell was a socialist,which is obvious if you read Animal Farm,he supports the initial revolution but condemns its subsequent perversion.The russian revolution failed but so did the french revolution and yet it's principles are now accepted by almost every government in the world.The fact that there are worse systems than capitalism doesn't mean we can't have something better.Capitalism can't even feed everyone when there's plenty of food.

[cozakaxo]

Cheers to That

[JonnyBrotherJr]

Mm, Napoleon (the PIGGY!!!) was an obvious parody of Stalin and Snowball (I think that was his name) seemed to be Lenin.

[elcampesino1848]

Snowball was trotsky,whom Orwell didn't admire but he learned from his critique of stalinism.Orwell was a socialist with anarchist tendencies,in his masterpiece "homage to catalonia" he supported the CNT in the spanish revolution.That work is less well known than animal farm or 1984 for ideological reasons.

[JonnyBrotherJr]

I'm not sure about Snowball being Trotsky as Snowball did lead the group for a while, and Trotsky didn't. Although, Trotsky WAS the head of the Red Army... So I half-concede.

But yeah - I will look into this 'Homage to Catalonia'. ;D

[arzoyan]

@elcampesino1848 The Russian Revolution of 1917 was anti-Monarchist political capture of the right wing elements of SDF. All they did was STATE CAPITALISM with political dictatorships and mass murder and tyranny , a little different from say USA where State has always been used by a Ganag of minority Ruling Class with two donkey Political Party doing the democratic masking, first they killed off million of natives then enlave labour Millions of Africans for Pllantations and ............

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan "Right wing Socialist" is oxymoron. Contradiction of terms.

[arzoyan]

@ss The SDF of Russia was really inspired by German Capitalist modernisation and Lenin was a Kautsky disciple, I did not argue ttat SDF was a genuine Socialist Movement nor Lenin a socialist, He was for political capture of the State machinery to introduce "SOCIALISM" from above, very similiar to the exporting of "democracy" by USA Imperialism in principle. Leninism is State Capitalist ideology and has distorted the principle of majority democratic self-emancipation of the working class.

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan Socialism can ONLY be introduced from "above". Socialism is government redistribution of wealth. Socialism without government is pure fantasy.

[arzoyan]

@ss Socialism indeed means classless,moneyless stateless world community in cooperation to take care of needs,wellbeing in harmony within and without , it has been distorted to mean state-capitalist tyrannies just as democracy which is socialism in action has been distorted to mean essentialy ttwo capitalist parties polishing the interest of the ruling capitalist class. The emancipation of the working class is the work of the working class, no leaders or followers are invited.

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan Nonsense! Communism supposed to be classless and moneyless utopia. Socialism never was. And emancipation of the working class with no leaders is pure fantasy.

[arzoyan]

@ssm You are recycling the lies,distortions and stupidity fed you by your owners, your mind is colonised for commercial use, have a good day.

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan Idiot. All those "lies" were "fed" to me for 17 years by professors of Marxism-Leninism in Moscow USSR. Those studies were mandatory for everybody getting higher education in USSR.

[arzoyan]

@ssmusic214 Exactly Leninism is the enemy of true working class self-emancipation, " vanguard Leninist " movement WAS GOING TO IMPOSE "SOCIALIS FROM ABOVE "as the working class was so stupid to understand its interest and organise accordingly, State Capitalist tyrannical Russian Empire was based on mass murder,slave labour,terror, brutalisation,propagand and lies as a "WORKERS STATE". Leninism is State Capitalism by another name.

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan Pure fantasies that you dreamed up that has nothing to do with Marxism or socialism! Where or when it ever happened?

[arzoyan]

@ss World socialism , a Classless,Moneyless Stateless communities of humanity in cooperation for our common needs and well being in harmony with all life for all generations is the negation of the tyranny of PRIVATE PROPERTY RELATIONSHIP OF EXPLOITATION,SUFFERING AND ALIENATION of humanity. Your fantasy and stupidity of socialism in one country is a tragic joke and insult to intelligence of true world socialist movement, wake up you have been manipulated and lied to

[ssmusic214]

@arzoyan Your deranged mind can not comprehend difference between fantasy and reality.

[slimv29]

@elcampesino1848 Well, I wouldnt call the Russian Revolution a failure. if anything, stalin just messed things up. look at Russia now compared to when there was the soviet union. A much better example of animal farm is in Iran in 1979. Capitalism not only doesnt have the ability to feed its people but it can't even help those who really need help

[joaquinveyron]

@elcampesino1848 And I guess, your brainless argument that all thhese COMMUNISTI SHITHOLES Were not communist is supported by the fact that many of your "friends" on your shitty YT page are big fans of Stalin, Lenin, Mao,, the SU etc. What irony, what irony ... and that you with your name indicate that you are a fan of the Cuban COMMUNIST SHITHOLE taht is run, oh wonder, by a COMMUNIST PARTY.

I dont know what kind of drugs you are using. Please simply use less of them, will you? :-)

[elcampesino1848]

@joaquinveyron What are you talking about?I didn't mention anything about regimes or individuals not being truly communist nor do I have a youtube page with stalinist friends and my name has nothing to do with cuba,a moments internet search could have told you that,and with such incoherent raving you accuse others of being "brainless"and on drugs.I realize you're hate filled simpleton but try and make more sense.

[joaquinveyron]

@elcampesino1848

No, you didnt.

[MazzingerZ7]

Communism is a worst plague than capitalism. If you don´t believe me, ask good ol George Orwell about it.

[Oegly]

"We all know how that went."

Do we? Marxism has never been a base for organisation of any society.

[Krazyeyeskilla]

Marx is awesome

[cultofmao]

One woman says that its worth looking at Marx again as its obvious he understood Capitalism better than most Governments or Banks do!, take a look at Zeitgeist that really shows the stupidity of Printing paper as is it really was something of value, people are sick of the consume and oppress society we are being forced to accept!

[CRAPCANNONS]

When will people realize that absolutist totalitarian ideas like this always leads to mass murder?

Never i guess.

[jeugdeuroparevolutie]

Only 1500 copies?

[groskino]

the mentioned party ,die linke, and their student organisation ,sds, are by no means socialist, not even reformist. marx handels in his three volume the Capital just the laws of capitalism, what is necassary to understand, but he is not giving an introduction to communist politics itself. die linke, like the sds function as safety valve, look at their politics in berlin and other local governments. it is necassary to study the whole marx and trotsky.

[therightperspective]

WTF WTF WTF... WTF.

[Merooba]

Marxism includes a wide range of ideas in different areas of thought. I would argue that his economic and social insights are excellent, while his ideas of human nature and political evolution were excessively idealistic.

[jackmstephens]

I'd agree. However, Marx's answer to that would be that the only reason why people say his ideas would be considered "idealistic" is because capitalism has clouded our views so bad that we consider it "idealistic" because we tend to not be able to see beyond our own present situation. Just saying, seems like a cop out but, hey, it is what it is.

[bboucharde]

Social & economic conditions in the USA are now intolerable for 20% of the population, and 50% have no net worth or a negative net worth. Income inequality is the worst it has been in decades.

However, few Americans would be willing to live under Stalinism or Maoism.

Can we avoid the mistakes of Marxism in the past, including its terrible moral failures that equaled that of Capitalism?

Could we find a middle way through Demo-Socialism?

This has been an ugly year for Capitalism.

[Congest]

You should look into Trotskyism. Stalinism and Maoism were betrayals and perversions of genuine marxism. The marxism of Lenin and Trotsky is miles apart from the policies of Stalin.

[bboucharde]

Congest,

Yes, I will look into it.

In the USA, national health care will be the "camel's nose under the tent" for Demo-Socialism.

The Neocons (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc.) fell on their faces this past year....They are disgraced. ...Ironically, the greed, militarism, stupidity, lack of due diligence, and hubris of the Neocons will usher in their worst nightmare: Socialism.

[majorMcpharter]

The brutal regime which collapsed in the old eastern bloc was State Run Capitalism.Common Ownership has not failed its never been tried.