Can Republicans Win the African-American Vote?

[onstageagain]

Look toward Chicago, see 45% student drop out. If Chicago cannot follow obama then how can the rest of R nation?

I was shocked to hear ‘put Ur marching shoes on’ from POTUS. My God, is he trying to incite a riot? The millions of people of all colors out of work b/c of Obama’s socialist agend & he wants the blacks to MARCH? Please tell me exactly how thats going to get anyone a job. Get Ur head out of Ur ass Obama, take a look at the country ! This guy is totally f’d up!

[SissyLou1]

If people would look closely at history (Jim Crow, Klu Klux Klan, George Wallace, Lester Maddox, etc.), NOBODY would vote Democrat.

[TheCaliCapitalist]

I dont see how a black person would vote for a republican.

[artie0433]

My people make very difficult for the republican party to reach out to us. In many black circles,if you are a republican you are considered the lowest of the lows.

And also,I'm not quite sure the republican party would be willing to except the masses of blacks and all the baggage that we carry.

[rashadkijani]

@artie0433 What baggage do we blacks carry? And what does it have to do with what political party we vote for?

[brandon98188]

let's put it this way, if Obama ran as a republican, Clinton would of got the balck vote. Black cares more about democratic issues over a black face. in most cases.

[CentristFiasco]

@brandon98188 It's the free hand outs that get to most of them, let's face it. The New Deal is hard to come by....

[brandon98188]

@CentristFiasco

I don't understand your response. are you saying blacks like free handouts?

[CentristFiasco]

@brandon98188 Social programs are what most blacks tend to dig after looking at those statistics. The voter turnout since the 1930s, the blacks sure liked FDR even though they couldn't benefit fully from the benefits.

[brandon98188]

@brandon98188

Social programs are good. If republicans are going to descriminate against us blacks, then we minus well get some social programs. The govt should make life easier for it's citizens. Universal healthcare, govt jobs

taxing the rich is all good.

[freein2339]

The GOP is racist ...that's why they don't get the Black vote...By the way , where's all the Blacks in congress from the GOP..??

[jsh78mang]

Aso i would just like to mention I know this stuff from personal experience. I'm an oil burner tech. Used to own my own company. One year a new regulation passed saying that i had to install with any new oil or gas burner system a a sprinkler head above the unit. The person that passed this bill was related to a guy (corporatism)whom owned a sprinkler head factory. It took only one oil fire to spread due to the water spraying on it(and law suite against the state) for it to be dropped. continued

[jsh78mang]

The main reason I had to close my company is the prices on everything started to raise. Ocea sent me a letter stating that I had to buy a 4-6 plastic sign for 60 dollars. My licensing fees doubled two years in a row etc. these things crippled my small mom and pops started company. However the majority of companies in my area were bought out by one company (corporatism) who had all the money in the world and political connections on the state level. this is what is killing this country.

[Tougemaster06]

individuals of their likness in the media, being celebrated. People who are deprived emulate the means it takes to become successful. The capitalist system essentially creates a gangster mentality in individuals and in black people it has had terrible effects. I am not even going to start on how free trade and conservative tax policies has robbed the inner city and middle America of fruitful jobs..

[Tougemaster06]

detriment is naive. No government interference is paramount for the market to work as efficiently as possible. However that plays into the market working efficiently for its own purpose. What does that do for people? In the market it is profitable for rappers to potray negative stereotypes of black women and black male youth. However, what kind of emotional, spiritual and moral consequence does this highly visible commodity have on those who have no money, but see individuals of their cont.

[Tougemaster06]

First of all Optimo, There is alot of values and "moral issues in the black community. However, that existence is a reality of devaluing and moral conditions. Racism and the destructive forces of the free market have damaged the black community. Jamal and Tamika need to get their act together, sure. However, they can get their act together all they want and will still be up against the wall, because they live in a country that views their concerns and the existence thereof as a problem.

[jsh78mang]

I disagree The free market dose not damage Black people. I would however like to hear why you think so.

[Tougemaster06]

@jsh78mang Go to the rap section of your music store and find out for yourself.

[jsh78mang]

So your saying that the free market makes inner city kids sell drugs to their own people essentially taking the "EASY" road to making their money. Then you'll have to explain why so many Black people have done so many good things with it including the guy whom made millions off the super soakers he designed. Could you clearify for me ?

[Tougemaster06]

@jsh78mang

A drug dealer is a capitalist. A pimp is a capitalist. What good is a market that is irrespective of the community it participates in? The idea that a person pursuing their self interest is virtually harmless is an asinine understanding of the nature of the market and how it relates to society. The capitalist system does what is profitable. The argument that government interference,no matter the intentions, is poisonous to the market in the context that it is to societies cont.

[jsh78mang]

We have not had a free market for capitalism, we have corpratism. Big companies getting laws passed to benifit them. The whole Idea tha capitalism dose what is profitable is false. Capitalism Truth is that people will always seek profits no matter what. I agree rappers make alot of money but what about Marvin Gaye, MJ, Diana Ross, Stevie wonder, ect. all made profits without fitting into a certain stereotype. what stunts other growth is government regulations. example Continued.

[jsh78mang]

Katrina the areas most effected were the housing projects that the gove built in areas no one else wanted to live in, because they were under sea level. After wards many people suffered without homes due to legal red tape. Also government licencing laws. which is another form of corporatism. They benifit politically connected businesses and keep competition down. example Say you and a few friends have enough start up and skill to start a small picnic basket company. continued

[jsh78mang]

This would benifit all of you and keep you gainfully employeed now the gov steps in and due to regulations and licencing the price to start that company double s or tripples. then ocea gets involved and now you have to have certain types of tools made by certain companies to do this. This is what keeps the ghettos ghettos. Your only other option is wealthfair or working a crappy job forever to try and pull yourselfs out or afford the for mentioned red tape.

[optimo75]

When are black people going to learn that America never intended for you to have a vote. Look around black people, you were doing better as a whole when you could not vote. 1965 VRA, blacks have gone downhill as a whole. Blacks lead in all of the negative categories. Prison pop, highschool drop out rate, out of wedlock child birth. Black folks, we need to get it together before we even believe that this country gives a damn about us. !!!!!BLACK PEOPLE PLEASE TRY AND READ 1 BOOK PER MONTH!!!!

[beeshor1]

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. A higher percentage of Republicans didn't support the Civil Rights Act. It's was 47 democrats to about 30 republicans. Plus it was pushed for by JFK and LBJ. His knowledge of history is flawed.

[MrAbolitionist]

what he meant was 90% of the Republicans in the senate voted for the civil rights act and eighty-something percent of Democrats voted for it. I'm not going to argue the guy's case. I'm just telling you what he meant.

[abrimestome]

@beeshor1

A higher percentage of Rebulicans voted for the civil rights act.

It was Filibustered by Demarcates.

Know your damn history, Don't be a sheep.

[beeshor1]

@abrimestone

What I was referring to was the actual numbers of Democrats compared to Republicans. 46 dems voted for the Act and only 27 repubs. At the time, the Republican Party was largely represented in the senate by northerners. While the Democrats had a large southern group of senators. Of the southern Dems the vote was 1 yea, 20 no. There was only 1 southern Repub and he voted no. The Act was introduced by Kennedy and then pushed by Johnson. It should be considered a Democratic bill.

[beeshor1]

@abrimestone

Also, Johnson knew that his insistence on passing the Civil Rights bill would lead to the Republican Party taking over the south. He was right. They are today the political party that represents the people of the south who oppose racial equality. That is a fact just as everything I said earlier is a fact. So I say to you that you know your damn history.

[abrimestome]

Wrong.

Most of the Dixiecrats did not become Republicans. They created the Dixiecrats and then, when the civil rights movement succeeded, they returned to the Democratic fold. It was not till much later, with a new, younger breed of Southerner and the thousands of Northerners moving into the South, that Republicans began to make gains.

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[abrimestome]

Dude you can't compare numbers of a smaller group against a larger group. Of course there were more Dems becuase they had majority senate. We don't divide by region when voting. Ignore the fuzzy math and hear the bottom line fact.

Republicans had a higher percentage of Yeah votes in favor of the civil rights act of 64. Period.

[beeshor1]

@abrimestone

It's just ridiculous to imply that Republicans should get the credit for the Civil Rights Act when the majority of House and Senate Democrats voted for the bill. It was pushed for by two Democratic Presidents. But the people on this clip try to say that Dems STOLE the credit for it. They DESERVE the credit, plain and simple.

[abrimestome]

No it's ridiculous that the Republican party spent over a hundred of years fight for civil rights and suddenly one bill was passed and the Dems get all the credit when history records that the Dems fought against Civil rights for the majority of it's existence. The Of course a greater majority of Rep voted yeah for 64 act it was what they wanted from the beginning. The Dems just saw the political winds and reacted.

[jsh78mang]

The only numbers that really matter are the senate version voted on by the house or the final bill voting was as such.Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%) Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%) eventh smaller numbers the Republicans voted "yea" more then Dems. Throw in Democrates Byrds 14 hour filibuster the only one for the bill, and a patern is quite evident. However the bill was entered by Kennedy. So your both right it was a Democratic bill that passed mostly on the wings of the Repubs.

[AzWatchmen]

In todays age and times i find it sick that people still cannot see we have no vote that matters.We vote on subjects that have been voted on every election for some are a life time.They cannot fix what they say otherwise we would have had this Country fixed 20 years after the civil war.We are being made fools of by voting every year.They will give us the two we are allowed to vote for and in those two they have already made the choice who will win.Look we all know Obama never would have won.

[thetuffknight]

I am a black republican and let me tell u the reason why blacks dont trust republicans is because of the misconception. They are preceived as racist and for a black to vote for one would be called selling out or an oreo. Blacks tend to have a misconception of the party that helped uplift them to the freedoms they enjoy today.

[jobw87]

what do Republicans call racist? Staff.

[Schwoorf]

if i were an american..i would vote only for PUTIN

btw what you vote is shit anyway..you have 2 candidats with 0 differance---ah not realy one of them is blackamerican

[rhibac]

nah republicans can keep their southern strategy

[WaffleBakingStar]

Republicans are against government handouts.

Many African-Americans feel they wouldn't have been accepted to a school/gotten a job without affirmative action, it haunts them, and they'd rather take a job showing THEIR OWN talent rather than their race.

[Navywxman]

CATO is not respectable. They are a corporate funded front to promote policies that are desired by wealth and power. By having Democrats means nothing, their diversity is virtually non-existant. It is a narrow range of voices that ALL support what the rich and powerful want, not what is best for the public. It is a propaganda farce.

[Navywxman]

The Cato Institute is one of a number of sad corporate funded right-wing hack organizations only interested in serving wealth and power.

[randyguitarman13]

A wide array of the political spectrum work at CATO. They have Republicans in economic departments, Democrats in social departments. And alot of Libertarians in all departments. And they were vehemently against Bush on the war in iraq from the beginning.

CATO is probably the only respectable free market institute in the United States.

[redhawk8]

CATO rules

[Navywxman]

If they think they can win that vote, then they are as stupid as they think African-Americans are.

In other words...NO

[tuneitout]

the answer is no.

[proteanview]

The 'African-American' vote is a canard. Sometimes groups may vote with similar patterns, but we can't assume there is a monolithic AA vote. Rice, Keyes, Powell are all AA and they vote very differently than Jackson & Sharpton. In California, many Latinos voted for Clinton; in DC area, for Obama. It's time to stop the politics of racial division. It's a an anti-intellectual distraction.

[treseax]

Hear Hear!

[majinspy]

@proteanview 2 years ago but, you're wrong. Blacks in America vote 95% Democrat in elections. This is pretty damn monolithic.

[freein2339]

@majinspy And with 10% of the Black vote being republican..that means that 50% of the Black republicans voted for Obama...

[majinspy]

@freein2339 I was very unaware that 10% of African Americans were republicans. In any case, I have no doubt that that is / would be true. Maybe some are "local" republicans and national democrats, i.e. would vote for Collins or Snowe but never a George W. Bush.

[bobrec3GTI]

@freein2339 wouldnt that mean that 90% voted for Obama?

[freein2339]

@bobrec3GTI 95% of the Black vote went to Obama...Read the comment again...

[everybodysfavourite]

do black people even vote??

[Rapprah]

That is the stupidest question you can ever ask. Obviously yes otherwise the men in this discussion wouldn't be talking about why blacks don't vote for republican. Got to learn to pay attention.