Yes friend,ATLANTIDA-ATLANTIS of PORTUGAL,Lisboa was the Major Port City for GREEK Merchants and Phonecian Trade and Commerce Equivalence-Equal Trading. These 3,000 B.C.E. Times were happy too,"NO Debts"of the European Union.GREECE was Our Portuguese-ATLANTIDA-Azores-West Iberian"Ally"together with CELTIC-Lusitanian GALACIA-Portugal.We had "NO Debts" then & the Blackmail of European Union "Debts" of 2011 to 2012 A.D. did NOT exist,just needed our Current Digital Electronics of Today,Champagnes!!
uk was no history and arrogancve that disgusts me and we know as former allies of britain we were betrayed and robbed over and over again i speak engliah like a speak portuguese or any other language dosent mean a thing they just bred like rabbits occupying so much land its impossible not to have to speak their language
actually the steam engines where invented in greece you fool, the english just stole the concept, go read a book, actually the english just stole alot rom alot people
thats why i like italians.after all south italy is latinised greeks.and yeah i agree to the top comment ''italians can understand,because they have history and culture.others cannot because they luck both.''
@trackieben Get real you racist moron. The UK economy is in a shitter as well last time I went. Also Greece isn't 3rd world, if it's so insignificant why hold onto the historical relics so desperately? You're a hypocrite in that sense. Also what's the point of bragging about English versus Greek? Of course there will be more English speakers Sherlock.
ps. you steal from the world, enslave people, steal, steal, STEAL, so you get rich, and then you try to call poor people lazy when they need help and are the ones you've stolen (everything) from and made them poor in the first place? great logic, the same logic used when "offering" to "loan" the greeks the "elgin marbles" - SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOUR COUNTRY! colonizing, imperialist, THIEVES!!! you imbecile! greece will have it's stolen items returned - it's already happening, so suck it.
@trackiben - typical english moron. bet your teeth are as rotted as your brain seems to be. without the greeks, your beloved england wouldn't exist. why don't you educate yourself before opening your big, rotten tooth infested mouth. go eat some shitty food and colonize some more. go steal from the world and appropriate it as your own. you stupid english wanker.
love,
greece
ps. it won't be long before the items stolen by your malaka relative are back in their proper home-greece
Do we need a Yank to tell us about robbing the world. Learn to pronounce Lord Elgin's properly please before making uniformed comments. It's ElGin you American dorm not ElJin!
Anyway they are NOT coming back to Greece - they'd rot away in the piolluted air of that slum Althens!
When Britain is asked to give something back to Greece, it becomes the weight of the world. When Italy returns something to Greece, it is simply a brother giving something back to his brother that he borrowed. I love Italy, and I love the Italian people!!!!!
Greek people need to shut the fuck up. The Elgin Marbles don't belong to them because modern Greek people have virtually no connection with the ancient Greeks, they're DESCENDED FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CONQUERED GREECE IN LATER CENTURIES!!!
ENGLISH PIGS HAVE NO WORD ON HISTORY. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHO DESCENTED, LOOK AT A STATUES TESTICLES AND COME AND TASTE THE SAME, ENGLISH PIG!! AND THEN JUDGE WHAT HAS CHANGED...
You're not getting them back friend. So don't get yourself in a frazzle over the matter! But in the meanwhile please do not insult yourself by your ignorance of the English language - learn it before you make comments in it! Greek! Who the hell speak or writes Greek these days? Only an insignificant little 3rd,.world nation that doesn''t pay its way and has to scounge off other people. Get some work you lazy Greek scumbag, chances are you're from Yankeeland as well!
@trackieben I think you already speak Greek!! and As I can remember from my years in england, you are the lazy ones begging for work and some BIG ISSUE, and not us. and we are not third world, you are because you have no families you have no children you drink and fart all day and your houses smell from 20 yards away. civilisation originates from the family and not from buildings built from slaves for free. If I had slaves working for free for me I would have the same attitude as you do.
Make no mistake about it, the British have done so much for Greece, including helping them to win their independence from the Ottomans and fighting to the last against the Nazis before they finally overran Greece in World War II. I love England and its people, but this is not about them. There are also countless other ancient artifacts in British museums that the Greeks have not asked to be returned. But the Elgin Marbles are of particular artistic and historical significance.
@ligreekguy First of all England did not help us free. Just placed their place by the winning side for political reasons only (the same ones that made them buy Cyprus from Turkey and make colonies all over the world.. - their precious little ''empire'').
Second. They did not fight the nazis to the last, they sent much less millitary than needed and just made the Germans to fully attack us and then puttheir heads into their bottoms.
WE ARE STILL WAITING MORE THINGS FROM ITALY TO RETURN. GREEK LIONS TO VENICE, HORSES (Constantinopolis), VYZANTINE PAPERS FROM VATICANO. DAI ITALIA, RITORNA TUTTO GRECO!!!! DAI!!!
at least italy has the common courtesy and class that the british are so desperately lacking. I'd like some country to take their precious crown jewels or big ben from them and see how they would react to it.
@exxxcccited Brits are pompous bastards with a severe inferiority complex, while we Greek and Italians have contributed to the world like no other nations have or ever will
ty italy love uuuuuuu!!!! the greek and italian civilization have many common things as the italian was inspired by the greek...they have civ so they can understand how much importan is for us to give us some of the parthenon marbles back.england doesnt have any civ and their history begins thousand of years after ours so they dont respect anything.england offerd greece to rent the marbles for 3 months an then agree tha they belong to england...hahahaha stupid ppl
Everybody can give a little help ! Enter to "The Guardian" website and vote for restitution of the marbles ! Please inform friends and relatives about , the survey will be end in a few days ! Thanks to all friends , greek or not !
An excellent act from a country with civilization..You see only when you have civilization u can respect it and understand its meaning..England on the other hand doesnt have one..so they respect none..What more to say..Thank you Italy for returning our marbles!
The history of Greece friend, is that has spent most of its time under foreign occupation - principally from your blood brothers - the TURKS. Instead of making inane comments get your countrymen to pay there way and stop relying on foreign handouts to support your nation of lazy scum bags. God! you don't even have lavatories that can flush toilet paper - so much for great Greek culture!
@trackieben What lies. Most Greek history was in ancient and Byzantine times. Also Turks every mixed with Greeks under the Ottoman Empire, find me proof. You're here defending Greek relics when you can't even pick up a single history book.
@crarecra2 England doesn't have a civilization? Great Britain is the founder of our modern world - it was the first industrialized country, other countries followed. If you use the trains in your country remember the next time you're travelling that engineers in Britain invented the steam locomotive. I agree that the museum should return the marbles but remember that those marbles would have been shot to pieces by the ottoman riflemen who were using them as target practice.
The Parthenon is Greek so it should be in Greece. Italy and Greece have such history and share the same civilization in many ways but the rest should be returned, it is only right!
File auta pou les ta polla einai swsta, den exw skopo na ne kseftelisw oute na se upotimisw, den to nomizw oti olloi oi laoi tou kosmou exoune 90% ellinika gonidia kai nai hparxoune arketa arxaia ellinika erga sthn Europh akai sth asia.
@wolylisa12345 Greek Friend, this is ATLANTIDA-PORTUGALIA PORTUGAL-GALACIA!! We are with you GREECE and GREEK People!We too are Grieving,for the `SAFE Return of ÀLL` GREECE WHITE-MARBLED Statues Safe, Naval Return BACK TO ATHENS,GREECE PARTHENON-Museums of the Democracies Millenniums!! Remember Greek Comrade-Friends,Our Ancient Last GREEK-PORTUGUESE words of ``GRAVATA=TIE`` &``TAVERNA=TAVERN``Known to ALL Greeks & Portuguese of the Mediterranaean Equal POSEIDON & ATLAS Up-Right Earth Cyclades!!
@Thiseas1974 Are you saying that Great Britain lacks history and culture... that comment shows incredible ignorance and I find it highly ironic that you yourself speak English. The British acquired the marbles when Greece was occupied by Turkey, whose soldiers were using the marbles as target practice! Something to be thankful for Great Britain for as well as Shakespeare, Milton, Kubrick, Chaplin, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin (just to cite a few vastly different cultural U.K. exports).
....and all the other scientists and scholars that copied the work of Greeks after they stole it from some monastery or from some who knows where .....?
Are you that snob or that ignorant to compare the Hellenic Culture with the English one? Because from what i know, the second wouldn't exist without the first.....
Italians should have come to us first, we would have give them something for them.
Ashmansworth 1 week ago
you should learn to pronounce Elgin properly
manlaws1000 1 week ago
Yes friend,ATLANTIDA-ATLANTIS of PORTUGAL,Lisboa was the Major Port City for GREEK Merchants and Phonecian Trade and Commerce Equivalence-Equal Trading. These 3,000 B.C.E. Times were happy too,"NO Debts"of the European Union.GREECE was Our Portuguese-ATLANTIDA-Azores-West Iberian"Ally"together with CELTIC-Lusitanian GALACIA-Portugal.We had "NO Debts" then & the Blackmail of European Union "Debts" of 2011 to 2012 A.D. did NOT exist,just needed our Current Digital Electronics of Today,Champagnes!!
Jules7892 1 month ago
by the way the brits didnt invented anything they used other peoples ideas and concepts and most of their scientisists where jews not english
ukusapillage 2 months ago
uk was no history and arrogancve that disgusts me and we know as former allies of britain we were betrayed and robbed over and over again i speak engliah like a speak portuguese or any other language dosent mean a thing they just bred like rabbits occupying so much land its impossible not to have to speak their language
ukusapillage 2 months ago
actually the steam engines where invented in greece you fool, the english just stole the concept, go read a book, actually the english just stole alot rom alot people
ukusapillage 2 months ago
Thank you Italy! Respect from from Greece. Vero.... Una raca, una faca!
steve81132 2 months ago
thank you italia
tisbales 5 months ago
thats why i like italians.after all south italy is latinised greeks.and yeah i agree to the top comment ''italians can understand,because they have history and culture.others cannot because they luck both.''
itachiitachi1946 7 months ago
brits they wor always a pirates so is not a big deal here. its some natural behavior for most of them in the time of lord elgin
reflexionofme 10 months ago
Screw the uk
Allsparkwars999 1 year ago
@trackieben Get real you racist moron. The UK economy is in a shitter as well last time I went. Also Greece isn't 3rd world, if it's so insignificant why hold onto the historical relics so desperately? You're a hypocrite in that sense. Also what's the point of bragging about English versus Greek? Of course there will be more English speakers Sherlock.
SirGeorge8600 1 year ago
@bookfan007 What did the UK do?
SirGeorge8600 1 year ago
Damn I never knew Italy has Greek historic relics, they should of kept them while no one knew lol. Maybe sell them on ebay haha.
-A greek.
SirGeorge8600 1 year ago
thank you italy. so nice, next england.
afrodita658 1 year ago
lol marble come from italy you idiots
mz2hot2nv 1 year ago
@mz2hot2nv ....and?
SirGeorge8600 1 year ago
ps. you steal from the world, enslave people, steal, steal, STEAL, so you get rich, and then you try to call poor people lazy when they need help and are the ones you've stolen (everything) from and made them poor in the first place? great logic, the same logic used when "offering" to "loan" the greeks the "elgin marbles" - SHAME ON YOU, SHAME ON YOUR COUNTRY! colonizing, imperialist, THIEVES!!! you imbecile! greece will have it's stolen items returned - it's already happening, so suck it.
scanolagirl 1 year ago 3
@trackiben - typical english moron. bet your teeth are as rotted as your brain seems to be. without the greeks, your beloved england wouldn't exist. why don't you educate yourself before opening your big, rotten tooth infested mouth. go eat some shitty food and colonize some more. go steal from the world and appropriate it as your own. you stupid english wanker.
love,
greece
ps. it won't be long before the items stolen by your malaka relative are back in their proper home-greece
scanolagirl 1 year ago
Do we need a Yank to tell us about robbing the world. Learn to pronounce Lord Elgin's properly please before making uniformed comments. It's ElGin you American dorm not ElJin!
Anyway they are NOT coming back to Greece - they'd rot away in the piolluted air of that slum Althens!
trackieben 1 year ago
Shame = pommy English bastards
nmt1969 1 year ago
When Britain is asked to give something back to Greece, it becomes the weight of the world. When Italy returns something to Greece, it is simply a brother giving something back to his brother that he borrowed. I love Italy, and I love the Italian people!!!!!
ligreekguy 1 year ago
Greek people need to shut the fuck up. The Elgin Marbles don't belong to them because modern Greek people have virtually no connection with the ancient Greeks, they're DESCENDED FROM THE PEOPLE WHO CONQUERED GREECE IN LATER CENTURIES!!!
floydruleman 1 year ago
@floydruleman
This can be said of all peoples in Europe, my God, where is your sense of history? Does that mean every European country has to shed its past?
ligreekguy 1 year ago
ENGLISH PIGS HAVE NO WORD ON HISTORY. AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHO DESCENTED, LOOK AT A STATUES TESTICLES AND COME AND TASTE THE SAME, ENGLISH PIG!! AND THEN JUDGE WHAT HAS CHANGED...
tsarouxaz 1 year ago
You're not getting them back friend. So don't get yourself in a frazzle over the matter! But in the meanwhile please do not insult yourself by your ignorance of the English language - learn it before you make comments in it! Greek! Who the hell speak or writes Greek these days? Only an insignificant little 3rd,.world nation that doesn''t pay its way and has to scounge off other people. Get some work you lazy Greek scumbag, chances are you're from Yankeeland as well!
trackieben 1 year ago
@trackieben I think you already speak Greek!! and As I can remember from my years in england, you are the lazy ones begging for work and some BIG ISSUE, and not us. and we are not third world, you are because you have no families you have no children you drink and fart all day and your houses smell from 20 yards away. civilisation originates from the family and not from buildings built from slaves for free. If I had slaves working for free for me I would have the same attitude as you do.
tsarouxaz 1 year ago
@floydruleman certainly they dont belong to you so shut the fuck up truly descendant of elgin!
costasir 1 year ago
@costasir
Make no mistake about it, the British have done so much for Greece, including helping them to win their independence from the Ottomans and fighting to the last against the Nazis before they finally overran Greece in World War II. I love England and its people, but this is not about them. There are also countless other ancient artifacts in British museums that the Greeks have not asked to be returned. But the Elgin Marbles are of particular artistic and historical significance.
ligreekguy 1 year ago
@ligreekguy First of all England did not help us free. Just placed their place by the winning side for political reasons only (the same ones that made them buy Cyprus from Turkey and make colonies all over the world.. - their precious little ''empire'').
Second. They did not fight the nazis to the last, they sent much less millitary than needed and just made the Germans to fully attack us and then puttheir heads into their bottoms.
irrationalxv 1 year ago
Britian is showing her barbaric roots to the world.
phlashba 1 year ago
WE ARE STILL WAITING MORE THINGS FROM ITALY TO RETURN. GREEK LIONS TO VENICE, HORSES (Constantinopolis), VYZANTINE PAPERS FROM VATICANO. DAI ITALIA, RITORNA TUTTO GRECO!!!! DAI!!!
MrGreco73 2 years ago
at least italy has the common courtesy and class that the british are so desperately lacking. I'd like some country to take their precious crown jewels or big ben from them and see how they would react to it.
Much love to italy and the vatican from greece.
babieeginger 2 years ago 6
Who's Lord Eljin? Sounds like a character from Lord of the Rings.
RebelVoDKa 2 years ago
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blahblahhuh1 2 years ago
thank u Italy!!!!!!
shame to UK!!!
mikek74 2 years ago 4
The Italians have class and culture as do the Greeks but I cant say the same about some of the ignorant Brits.
exxxcccited 2 years ago 7
@exxxcccited Brits are pompous bastards with a severe inferiority complex, while we Greek and Italians have contributed to the world like no other nations have or ever will
hellas213 1 year ago
@hellas213 Congratualtions, you have just discovered racism. Is that YOUR OWN contribution to the world?
mrsunseeker 1 year ago
ty italy love uuuuuuu!!!! the greek and italian civilization have many common things as the italian was inspired by the greek...they have civ so they can understand how much importan is for us to give us some of the parthenon marbles back.england doesnt have any civ and their history begins thousand of years after ours so they dont respect anything.england offerd greece to rent the marbles for 3 months an then agree tha they belong to england...hahahaha stupid ppl
turovromikoulas 2 years ago 3
some greek marbles are still at Pantheon.We want them back too
greenarmy13 2 years ago
love you italy, from greece.
hugorocky 2 years ago 5
Everybody can give a little help ! Enter to "The Guardian" website and vote for restitution of the marbles ! Please inform friends and relatives about , the survey will be end in a few days ! Thanks to all friends , greek or not !
Mhayai1 2 years ago
Bravo Italia and Vatican.. Hopefully now the British Museum follows your humane effort
evercllear 2 years ago
Well done Italy and a big "thanks" from every Greek's heart!!! You did the best, thanks again!!!
valondia 2 years ago 4
To the English government:
Return what you have stolen. Prove the World you respect History. Earn your lost honor.
WanderingOdysseus 2 years ago
An excellent act from a country with civilization..You see only when you have civilization u can respect it and understand its meaning..England on the other hand doesnt have one..so they respect none..What more to say..Thank you Italy for returning our marbles!
crarecra2 2 years ago 35
The history of Greece friend, is that has spent most of its time under foreign occupation - principally from your blood brothers - the TURKS. Instead of making inane comments get your countrymen to pay there way and stop relying on foreign handouts to support your nation of lazy scum bags. God! you don't even have lavatories that can flush toilet paper - so much for great Greek culture!
trackieben 1 year ago
@trackieben What lies. Most Greek history was in ancient and Byzantine times. Also Turks every mixed with Greeks under the Ottoman Empire, find me proof. You're here defending Greek relics when you can't even pick up a single history book.
SirGeorge8600 1 year ago
@SirGeorge8600 No one cares what a Pathological liar thinks BOY George ..
stop lien to people on YT ,,
you will say anything , but Mostly wrong .
last week you were 1/2 Italian 1/2 Greek , this week you are 1/2 Polish 1/2 FYROmonkey ..
FYROMINJA 11 months ago
@crarecra2
We love you brothers from across the strait!
Saluti dall'Italia fratelli greci ;).
Reazzurro90 9 months ago
@crarecra2 England doesn't have a civilization? Great Britain is the founder of our modern world - it was the first industrialized country, other countries followed. If you use the trains in your country remember the next time you're travelling that engineers in Britain invented the steam locomotive. I agree that the museum should return the marbles but remember that those marbles would have been shot to pieces by the ottoman riflemen who were using them as target practice.
jjheadington 9 months ago
The Parthenon is Greek so it should be in Greece. Italy and Greece have such history and share the same civilization in many ways but the rest should be returned, it is only right!
kloipu 2 years ago 9
Btw, Italia you did the right thing. Good start. Now the rest please..
NikosThessGr 3 years ago 6
Έλα, σειρά η Αγγλία τώρα!!!
NikosThessGr 3 years ago 4
tnx italy
R3vma 3 years ago 5
Grazzie Italia.
NorthenLight1 3 years ago 6
Let this action be an example to the British who unreasonably insist on keeping Parthenon's marbles! 5*
Kassandreia 3 years ago
Thanks.
fae1magalokreas 3 years ago 2
1)Everywhere you dig, you will find greek monuments...!!!
2)The first language in the world was the greek one
3)90% of the english words have greek origin
4)We greeks made the world for you to leave in...!!!
5)They found greek ships in amazonio ocean before colombus
6)All of you have Greek genes = 90%
Hellenic History since 40000 BC.
ApollwNotos 3 years ago
File auta pou les ta polla einai swsta, den exw skopo na ne kseftelisw oute na se upotimisw, den to nomizw oti olloi oi laoi tou kosmou exoune 90% ellinika gonidia kai nai hparxoune arketa arxaia ellinika erga sthn Europh akai sth asia.
fae1magalokreas 3 years ago 2
fae1magalokreas
enane ereuna i europi kai i ameriki
kai auto bgike
ase pou den mas lene tipota
ApollwNotos 3 years ago
ameriki kai europo sxedon oloi exoun elliniko gonidio
ereuna oxi apo ellines.
ApollwNotos 2 years ago
1) Bollocks
2) Bollocks
3) Bollocks
4) Bollocks
5) I don't know where the amazonio ocean is, so I can't comment.
6) Bollocks
RebelVoDKa 2 years ago
Learn Ancient Greek
To find true story
ApollwNotos 2 years ago
grazzie Italia!
whitemagick4 3 years ago 2
Italians can understand, because they have history and culture.Others cannot because they luck both.
Thiseas1974 3 years ago 44
@Thiseas1974 im greeeeeck so dont tese my people
wolylisa12345 9 months ago
@wolylisa12345 Greek Friend, this is ATLANTIDA-PORTUGALIA PORTUGAL-GALACIA!! We are with you GREECE and GREEK People!We too are Grieving,for the `SAFE Return of ÀLL` GREECE WHITE-MARBLED Statues Safe, Naval Return BACK TO ATHENS,GREECE PARTHENON-Museums of the Democracies Millenniums!! Remember Greek Comrade-Friends,Our Ancient Last GREEK-PORTUGUESE words of ``GRAVATA=TIE`` &``TAVERNA=TAVERN``Known to ALL Greeks & Portuguese of the Mediterranaean Equal POSEIDON & ATLAS Up-Right Earth Cyclades!!
Jules7892 2 months ago
@Jules7892
Portuguese friend, Lisboa was founded by Odysseus (Ulysses) and its name was Ollisipopolis and Olisipo
uoitofsogroj 1 month ago
@Thiseas1974 Are you saying that Great Britain lacks history and culture... that comment shows incredible ignorance and I find it highly ironic that you yourself speak English. The British acquired the marbles when Greece was occupied by Turkey, whose soldiers were using the marbles as target practice! Something to be thankful for Great Britain for as well as Shakespeare, Milton, Kubrick, Chaplin, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin (just to cite a few vastly different cultural U.K. exports).
jjheadington 9 months ago
@jjheadington ok ok ... u saved themm..than why dont you giving them back ??? hmmm ???
mrSExyGR 9 months ago
@jjheadington
....and all the other scientists and scholars that copied the work of Greeks after they stole it from some monastery or from some who knows where .....?
Are you that snob or that ignorant to compare the Hellenic Culture with the English one? Because from what i know, the second wouldn't exist without the first.....
Thiseas1974 8 months ago 2
Thank you neighours... I believe I speak on behalf of every Greek, when I say we are all grateful.
1TuBe1983 3 years ago 4