I had electroshock therapy from October to November, 2010. It left me feeling a little foggy after each session, but I feel no lingering effects one year later. I am not free and clear of depression, but I was able to move out on my own, and hold down a job. I've made a few casual friends as well. Overall my mood improved measurably, I still feel down, but not in the deep and dark pit of despair I was in previously.
wwwelectricshocktherapy.info - This Website Exposes the "TORTURE", "DEATHS" and "MEDICAL FRAUD" surrounding Electro-Convulsive Therapy ("ECT") also known as "Electric Shock Therapy" and Insulan-Coma Therapy".
Hey... don't do anything wrong in the first place and there will be no reason to forget via EST. For anyone interested look up Freeman.... the guy who created the lobotomy. Some women with PMS were given lobotomies. EST is like a lobotomy but not as controlled..... it's crazy
you guys insult him and call him idiot, but yet does not give any explanation or point about why he is an idiot. typical from clueless people that don't know shit.
AMEN! This guy is just angry because it was forced on him. Read about his history. He is also Mentally Ill himself. Yes, so am I and I have received it and it SAVED MY LIFE. I have had minor short term memory loss as a side effect, yes, but I got ALL of it back. It is done in a VERY humane way and JUST WORKS. Anybody can get a Ph.D in anything. Just because he has one doesn't mean you should take his word on this procedure... It is ALL his opinion.
sounds like what hes saying is you are giving yourself a toxic attack he says dont do it it like saying his main advice is dont try and commit suicde at your own risk
Some people have a religious experience that changes their lives after they get hit by a truck. Only a very sick person would then say it's good therapy to play in traffic.
ECT is no different than getting hit in the head with a bat. The only difference is no outward scars.
I have had 11 ECT treatments about 4 years ago, it has helped me want to live again. the only side effect is minor short term memory loss. i was at the lowest point of my life, no medications were working and i just wanted to die every day.
@jimmyzep1 That's great! However the thing with cognitive deficits is that the patient often is unaware of them him/herself. You could certainly have suffered other side-effects without being aware of them. Wikipedia has some good information about the topic.
Ask someone who has had it. I guess he's ok giving medication that has 10-20 side effects and damage every organ in the body. This guy is slanting everything to his side.
What exactly is the alternative then if Medications completely fail to work and Extreme amounts of Therapy fail to work? If i had depression i would rather take the chance of loosing part of my memory etc and becoming in a way slightly disabled then living in doom and wanting to kill myself. It would mean that i don't have to put my family though myself being depressed and maybe one day them coming in and finding me dead. If you don't have an alternative working solution then STFU
Sparky, you just proved a point when you admitted to severe memory loss . . . and plug me in. BAD JUDGMENT! I am a "Survivor" of 58 such treatments. At one time I thought the same way you are thinking now. SINCE I AM FINALLY AWAKE, however, I am able to realize the long term destructive properties of Electroshock. I would never subject myself to another one.
Electroshock is devastating to relationships. My husband died of a stress related heart attack. I'm better now, but he's gone!
A South Carolina woman has become the first survivor of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT, shock treatment) to win a jury verdict of $635,177 for extensive permanent amnesia and cognitive disability.
Peggy S. Salters, 60, sued Palmetto Baptist Medical Center in Columbia, as well as the three doctors responsible for her care. As the result of ECT, she lost all memories of the past 30 years of her life. She was unable to work after ECT.
ElectroShock Therapy has taken from me the most important memory of my life........ the memory of me consenting to have this therapy! It is not my place to recommend ECT to anyone, but ECT saved my life.
Anyone who uses words like archaic, barbaric, ancient and torture when describing modern day ECT obviously has no idea what they are talking about.
I have suffered severe memory loss as a result of ECT, but I am insistent that we continue the treatment as planed..... Plug me in!
Modern ECT isn't the same procedure experienced in the past... and frankly research done specifically to look for physical changes in the brain via CT scan, fMRI, and post-mortem... no abnormalities found.
It -is- a medical procedure in all senses of the term and has risks and benefits associated... with that said ECT is generally an option of last resort when the possible benefits outweigh the risks... again like any medical procedure.
Stop ranting and brush off your research skills - do a m
How do people come to believe ECT works? Because it works for a significant percentage of people who have clinical depression and it saves lives! The benefits significantly outweigh the possible side effects. It's that simple. Sorry I don't have a video, but search for "Sherwin Nuland, My History of Electroshock Therapy".
Far be it for me to agree with an activist! But i do. ECT IS BARBARIC, A DISGRACE, AND CAN BE USED TO MAKE THE PATIENT FORGET ASSAULT, ABUSE OR RAPE. ECT CAN BE USED FOR TORTURE AND COERSION. WHATS STOPPING THEM? DECENCY? ROFLMAO! THOSE OF YOU PROMOTING ECT SHOULD HAVE IT DONE TO YOU! IT WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON!
For some people ECT saved their life, for other it created hell.
There are cases with people who lost their memory for up to 5 years and still have no short-memory. In Sweden its used more and more but nobody really knows if it will work for a patient or not, its really amazing how this can be allowed. The worst is that people dont get informed about the dangers.
If they knew about the potential risks they could make the choise if they think its worth the the risk or not.
@SwPrAn The worst is that ect is ABUSED. ect can be used for torture and coersion, or even to make the patient forget some abuse they suffered so they wont tell anyone, or to make MONEY for the hospital. People are TOLD the ect helped them.
ECT had no effect on me tho exept headache probably more negative than positive experience in my case the doctor has failed to give me the correct treatment about 20 times and and im getting pretty sick and tired of it if i commit suicide its all thanks to my "Doctor"/Mad Scientist thinking lets use this depressed guy as a Lab Rat and fuck him up whith ECT,Benzo,SSRI,and predecessors from before SSRI existed i have had pretty much every sideeffect known to the fucking human race now!
This information is really usefull and explain a simple way so that everyone can understand it, the brain has such a delicate balance. The fact is that neurons are permanent cells if they die there is no replacement so I think it makes total sense, thank you doctor.
@hman111 If I constantly abused you telling you to correct a certain behavior, you'd act like I want you to as well. Except in this manner, you may or may not be a willing participant to correct this behavior, allowing for such abuse until you do change your behavior. I can do the same thing with a bat and get the same results.
I am a retired Avro Engineer. I have been admisistered Electroshock Depatterning "Treatment". I am now mentally disabled, I have lost assets, I have lost my living.
My biggest concern about the administration of the procedure is that the exact reason that this treatment is "effective" is largely unknown. As the exact location of the cause of depression in the brain cannot be identified, it is dificult to accept that a "general administration" of electrical currents to the brain (not to one particular location - or problem area) can cause positive impacts. There may be some that believe that they improve from this, but it seems a tragic gamble.
this man is 100% right. not only the ECT but all the medicines are fake. they heal a disease but creates 100 more. my opinion is to keep your self far far away from all the medicines. Try to defeat the disease by your own immunity. did you ever feel that something is wrong with all this system of medication and government. if you have the that much wit and want to find why? is this something wrong then be with me and watch all of my videos coming soon
@sKHANcreative You are so right.... Quick, lets make insulin illegal. Many people don't know insulin can cause hypoglycemia, some people go into a coma and die. In this day and age, to make people stick themselves with a needle! Not only is it barbaric, it's humiliating. Only drug addicts do that. If your doctor ever diagnosis your child as a type 1 diabetic and prescribes insulin run as far away as you can. He's crazy.
Most western medicine is a bad deal. As hard as it is it's really best to try your hardest to work through your own mental health problems by studying your condition, modifying your behavior, and tracing your past working through your issues. It's hard as hell but its totally possible. Even antidepressants probably cause brain damage and who knows what else. Most things worth having take a lot of hard work.
I can tell that the treatment of ECT has done well in my case.
I was hospitalized for 2 days in the week,and it took me 8 weeks with 16 treatments of ECT.I was treated for chronical depression.But i can say that it was the thing for me.
I tried all the medications for depression and i didn't feel well.
ECT works for some people.What can you do when medication don't get you anywhere.
You will search for something else to get free of depression.
That is NOT why I am not anticonvulsants. Anticonvulsants have been found effective for treating bipolar disorder. ECT has never been brought up during my treatment but even if it was, I am not confused or scared, I know exactly what my doctor is prescribing me and the decision is mine. I hope people will research this themselves instead of taking all of their information from one biased source. I am not saying that he is wrong, but clearly he represents only one viewpoint on the issue.
What exactly is the purpose, that the people who administer electro-shock are apparently trying to achieve? I don't understand. Other than money could there be? How would you persuade a client to under-go that "treatment"?
@AutumnSkyie It is used as an alternative to help people who do not respond to medication. It is typically used to treat depression and other mental disorders.
@whitemongolian It is used as an alternative for people who don't respond to Alopathic medication , alopathy or symptomatic medicine doesnt get to the cause of the matter nor does ECT
@whitemongolian ok i think ect is barbaric and just not required , mental illness can be cured by holistic meds and ,enjoyable therapies and psychology
(1) The amount of electricity used is not "massive". It is tiny. (2) There is no evidence that ECT causes brain damage. (3) The "blood brain" and "cell death" "cell death" "cell death" part is gibberish. (4) It does not "disable" the brain. (5) It causes nothing like a "closed brain injury". (6) Show me a study that disproves its efficacy. Sham electroshock has never been shown to work better than placebo. (7) No credible worldwide organisation has "banned" it. I could go on...
You realize that modern ECT is mainly used to treat patients whose lives are threatened mainly by extreme cases of depression. ECT is used as a last resort when other methods have failed including behavioral and drug therapy. The reason is that in some of those cases ECT is the only method that works, and may in turn actually save those patients lives by reducing depression and giving them back the will to live. What would you rather lose; a part of your memory or your whole live?
Psychiatry isn't an exact science, nobody can say definitively what causes depression, if it is a chemical imbalance there is no test to prove this theory.
There are studies that disagree with the use of ECT likewise, studies that support it's use. ECT has different methods of application creating significant differences in outcome and ill effects.
Just because people disagree with your opinion, it isn't fair to label them as misinformed liars either.
well said! anyone who thinks ect is good is a moron or at least grossly misinformed. If you support ect, go try it out. you won't support it for long, because you will eventually become too brain damaged to support anything, including yourself.
I agree that cause brain cell damage but think other way, if someone break arm or leg its bone damage after healing the place where its broke is more stronger than other part of that bone because the bone get more cell density that's why is more stronger, i think the brain also works that way. The doctor also have to indicate that ECT don't cause death its the anesthesia that cause death. .
I know 3 people of my life who went to ECT one of them is my wife, they have great results all of them functioning perfect and they still working till now without any problem. I think they are now better than me for remembering things.
I don't want to encourage people doing it but so far i have not seen any side effects beside after the ECT they all had temporary memory lost after 2 or 3 months they remember every single thing.
Thanks for the info. I'm trying to talk my dad out of it. I really hope he watches this video and doesn't make one of the biggest mistakes of his life by doing this.
I have had a theory that,before ect the patient is subjected to authority or made to behave, at least to the point of submission.The shocks act like a magnet metal, lining up brain cells in a straighter pattern or 'fixing' the brain to a more helpful pattern.
I also used to think it was a way of scaring people or shocking them into submission, I know it'd make me think twice before misbehaving again, although I might have notions of revenge.
Now I think it creates new circuits fusing old ones
I once had accupuncture, and at the end he touched my ankle and it felt like an electric shock. I assumed this was to jolt my senses, wake me up, or shock me into behaving better.Not sure if it worked though. Worse than ect they used to do lobotomies with ice picks!
In addition to the comment below, I will point the reason why many people believes that ECT works. It is becaue "a significant number of patients ERRONEOUSLY belived that their memory had improved after ECT despite the fact that neurological testing cleary showed the opposite", quoting from wikipedia.
I will answer some questions on this text comment lines. Most of time, IT IS TRUE THAT ECT CAUSES BRAIN DAMAGE(AT VERY HIGH RISK). And these patients have significantly lower recognition. But it is also true that ECT works for people who is really going to suicide and have no other option. BUT ECT WORKS FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY LOSE SOME TYPES MEMORY OF DEPRESSION. Make sure that they will also lose some important memories too. And THEY WILL HAVE LOVER RECOGNITION.
@anhhdinh This guy is passing on very goood info, he's not only qualified but is very wise. ECT is abominable and so are many of the drug treatments for mental illness
I'm not really very sure this guy has any clue about physiology - bandying around terms like 'blood brain barrier' as if that makes him scientifically knowledgeable, just listen to what he's saying, and think about it - that should be enough to discredit him. If it isn't, go and read some proper, *independent* research on ECT before deciding based on pro- or anti-medical stereotypes...
@JackLBeadle Blood brain barrier is a term I recognise, what,s wrong ? I am not in favour of ECT for many reasons 1 The brain consists of a fatty substance so think of what happens when you apply electric shock? in fact i don't even think a full body sauna is good, better to keep your head out and a cool wet cloth on the head 2. Imagine what might happen if you applied a similar shock to the heart? 3 I use herbs, shirodhara etc in my own practice, this works very well even in schyzophrenia
I don't know about the US but in the UK it is a psychiatrist who decides on a patient's treatment because they're the 'medically' trained experts. They decide which drugs to use or in some cases, ECT. Psychologists study the mind too but they approach things in a different way, using treatments like cognitive behaviour therapy etc. I believe that a patient benefits from both 'medical' (drugs) & psychological treatments once the person has reached the coping stage where they can take CBT on board
I had my 3rd ECT today and I feel I am among the living again! yeah!
This guy is an idoit! I have tried different meds and I feel so blessed to be able to have ECT. This guy is crazy !!! I tried to commit suiside two weeks ago and have been depressed for 16years and this is the 1st time I feel ALIVE!
You say that you don't agree with ECT as a psychologist but why do you agree with giving people medications, only to have it cause physical health issues? It may work on some people, but the majority of people in the u.s are constantly seeking higher dosages because of the ineffectiveness of these drugs. I stopped taking mine for major depression due to chemical imbalance and being bipolar. I now not only have to manage these illnesses, but muscle spasms and brain shocks.
i have had 43 treatments (the most recent one today). i am tired of people not understanding te benefits of this therapy. yes, it has been barbaric in the past. yes it has been used as mind control and torture in the past.
but i have gone from a completely intent on suicide individual into a sane(r), more thoughtful, more able to do therapy, more cohesive person through ect. i would recommend it to anyone. (& i still have my menza iq!)
I don't know if you are mensa(not menza!) or not, I know I am, but what ECT affects most in the brain is not the IQ itself, what ECT affects most (besides some memory loss)is the ability to relate to other people due to its damage to the frontal lobes(where the electrodes are commonly placed). Tragically, I can attest to that: after I got only 3 sets when I was 19 years old, I was able to obtain an engineering degree Magna Cum Laude, but my interpersonal relations have been always very poor.
I dont beleive you still got mensa iQ after ect. No memory lost? How many ect threatments did you have? And how many months until you was back too normal.???
@hendrixphish420 For the record, typos are not an indication of vocabulary nor intelligence. Not only do I know more words than you, I bet I spell better than you. Shall we compete at scramble?
@hendrixphish420 For the record, typos are not an indication of vocabulary nor intelligence. Not only do I know more words than you, I bet I spell better than you. Shall we compete at scramble?
Doctor Consult. We Have Here a Brain. Which We Have Extremely Limited Knowledge Of It's Workings. We Basically Have No Idea How It Operates. In My Medical Opinion "I Recommend We Shock The Crap Out Of It!!!" This is the treatment, Are You kidding Me?
Every type of therapy has been tried so shock your brain into submission? I'm sure memory loss could fix the problem though. You won't even remember what was bothering you in the first place.
Wow you guys are just nuts. You are actually having a debate about this. I actually didn't believe this kind of therapy was still in practice. We are talking about electroshock. It is used as torture as well. This is all just barbaric. This society has gone to the moon, photographed the smallest parts of an atom and electroshocks people to improve their behavior. Something is really wrong with that. In one hundred years people will think we are just insane.
I also want to stress i did my own research on this. I think some of you are so hooked into this horrid system you will not face the facts regarding the long-term damage ECT/medication treatments cause.
Lobotomy anyone? Our medical profession used to do these, cutting out part of the brain thinking it would cure a mental illness........how CRAZY is such a thing! Get info on Lobotomies and you won't believe how stupid it is. The history of it.
Hello psychetruth. Could you please send me links to published, peer-reviewed studies to back up your claims? I am very interested in this area, and I am versed in some of the literature on the subject.
What you speak about in this video runs contrary to everything I have read in my textbooks at university, and I would greatly appreciate it if you could send me those links so I can make sure that I am getting a balanced and- more importantly- empirically truthful understanding of the practice.
I was a patient of ECT and had 9 treatments. I had no memory loss. I know others do. My experience with ECT was humane and incredibly helpful. Im a functioning individual now while before I was too sick to be out of the hospital. According to this man, My brain is disabled and that Im subdued As I said before, its a therapeutic treatment that has saved many peoples lives including mine. Do NOT consider his information valid!!!
@alyssaamer Oh really? Your recent activity shows that this is the only video you ever viewed with this account. You logged in around the time you posted this comment too, and no other. It's all on your you tube channel. Are you some angry psychiatrist who created this account only to misinform people so you wouldn't lose out on money? Anyways, what you say does not match what others are saying who received ETC.
@PiercingKnight Woah! Good catch! And his desparate buddies logged on to rate his vid. This was really such a fake comment it screams! But I guess no surprise from some people to be able to lie only. Its a diagnosis in itself.
@alyssaamer - I have witnessed the direct aftermath of only thirty-six ECT sessions and have kept in touch with nine of these recipients over the last twenty years. I observed initially that there were four of these recipients that faired well. Two were nearly phenomenal ! However, of the remaining thirty-two, twenty six experienced significant loss in mental acuity and eight suffered noticeable personality modification.
who cares if it wipes out your memory u can releanr that shit anyway, if i forget i have a son when i get through with the damn therapy and have a 3 year old calling me mom i'll figure it out. I WANT ECT!! and if i dont get it i will do my own version with a radio and my bathtub!
I don't know what to think about ECT. My mum had extreme depression. She tried to commit suicide a couple of tmes. She wouldn't take drugs. After ect she seemed to become "normal" again for many years. It felt like I had my mum back again. Now she has "dementia" and is totall incontinent and in another world mostof the time. Unable to even sit up or feed herself. Which was better, death or this?
ECT is an abomination and needs to be stopped. Period. This was done to my mother in the 60's for depression of all things. Quacks! Her brain will never be the same and we will never know what she should really be like today had she not had ECT. 5 * video. Thanks. D
Are you that impressionable that you believe everything you read something on the internet? I'm not saying that the pharmaceutical industry is made up of saints, but if you google it the right way, you can probably find that your penis is made of bamboo (hey - maybe it is!).
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by pointing out your academic achievements other than to boast? Who ever claimed that mental illness necessarily has a bearing on intelligence? Can you say John Nash, boys and girls?
...and get ready to spend the rest of your life paying off those lawyers - if they'll take your case, that is. It's extremely rare that anyone who's consented to ECT has had a leg to stand on.
I've also heard horror stories from people who denied any treatment, relied on self-resolve and God's grace and Eastern medicine and Western medicine and still put a 357 magnum into their mouths anyway. Nothing is a cure-all, everything has its downside, but when youre at the end of your rope and life literally isnt worth living, ECT doesnt seem like such a crime against humanity, it seems like one more hope you can hold on to
I've heard the horror stories, Hemingway, teachers who forgot how to teach, people not knowing who their families are. I know they're true, but if the failures were in greater numbers than the successes, do you really think our greedy insurance companies would even pay for this knowing theres a lawsuit coming soon after?
Get over it pal. And comparing epilepsy and chronic convulsions to the seconds of convulsions during ECT? Why don't you just compare anesthesia to being paralyzed. You say you're a "survivor of ect", and now you have all this resolve and energy and passion to help people...Ever think that might be because of the ECT? This isn't one flew over the cuckoos nest anymore, Jack, it isn't torture. This is a golden bullet sometimes that can stop suffering in it's tracks. Deal with it.
"Crime against humanity", genocide and rape are crimes against humanity, not a last resort treatment that's effective for people who have no where else to turn. Millions of people are "unable to work after electric shock"? Millions of people are unable to work because all they can think about is blowing their heads off, because easteran AND western medicine has been unable to help.
"In an interview with "Houston Chronicle"in 1996, Melissa Holliday, a former extra on 'Baywatch' and model for 'Playboy' stated the ECT she received in 1995, 'ruined her life'. She went on to state, 'I've been through a rape, and electroshock therapy is worse. If you haven't gone through it, I can't explain it'"
(Wikipedia)
So it's worse than rape.
When ECTwas suggested to me, it wasn't a last resort.
People with mental illnesses need empowerment, not learned helplessness.
ECT, why do I even have to talk about this?" You don't and you shouldn't. How did it get that medical science etc. believes that shocking the brain is therapy? Maybe its not
sit down and lets talk about your problems therapy, but it works. It IS beneficial to millions of people. I've read more success stories than I can even count. You say "cell death cell death cell death". I hate to break it to you but cells die if you bump your head or drink too much, get over it.
And MAYBE, idiots like you who think that the brain needs therapy to fix itself need to think on this; okay, so I'm depressed, la-di da-di, and I don't like life. first of all, how is one supposed to be content with life these days? we have people like YOU telling us that WE need to be FIXED, now I don't know if you have some sort of vendetta against fake medical illnesses, but let me tell you this, depression MAY be a chemicl balance issue, but it is also based on circumstances.
...and I haven't told YOU - either individually or collectively - to handle anything in any particular type of way. You're obviously very resentful about mistreatment you received and obviously misdirected your anger toward me.
So let me get this straight - you believe there's a chemical aspect to depression, yet it doesn't need to be treated - just give it time and it will correct itself. Do I have that right?
I personally have a criminal record due to being forced into a negative situation. now, when taken COMPLETELY off of treatment, suddenly I'm doing fine. currently deployed to the middle east with the US Army, living it up (as much as you can in the desert). riddle me this, sir, are we going to start treating babies for mental incapacities because of incontinence and not functioning as high as the rest of us? are we going to use ECT? look up MK ULTRA. ease just how painfully misinformed you are.
So if you're "suddenly" doing fine, what were you being treated for to begin with?
ECT is meant to be a last resort. Was it wrongly recommended to you? Is that why you harbor such resentment? And I've read more about depression and ECT than you probably will in your lifetime. May I ask what makes you so well informed?
As I said, I never said you should be doing anything. It sounds to me like you're the one telling people what and what not to do!
Obviously, you people are quite naive or have never had a family/friend endure ECTS. I speak from personal experience. My husband is BiPolar and has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from the Vietnam war. He is now 65 years old. He was in the hospital being treated for recurrent flashbacks. He was given a series of ECTS in 2002. They did not erase the war experiences. They did not help his depression. His memory has been greatly affected. His personality has changed. This treatment is barbaric!!!
How would you what experience I may or may not have had with ECT? Don't assume things.
From the way you describe it, it sounds as if your husband was in seriously bad shape before and the ECT now gives you something to blame it on. Have you considered blaming the politicians who waged a war as fruitless as the one they're raging now.
I'm not saying I would feel comfortable encouraging someone to get ECT. Though calling for it to be banned when it's helped so many completely lacks all logic.
I have seen ECT performed as a life saving intervention many times. I would recommend it in preference to pharmaceutical treatment for severe depression any day.
In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing experiment they paid a psychiatrist in montreal to carry it out using Massive electric shocks 80 times stronger than what was considered normal if any of it is normal. I was one of Dr Cameron's victims I am telling my story on you tube at youkilledyourmother
This treatment has the validity of bloodletting, phrenology, and the theory of the humors.
People forget vast periods of their lives. They forget their wives/husbands, their education and vocational training becomes worthless, and they lose comforting nostalgias.
Think before you support practices like involuntary commitment and treatment.
You're full of shit. I defy you to show me a documented case where someone forgot his or her spouse or anything similar to that; and nobody receives involuntary ECT anymore. People already possess enough ignorance - stop compounding it with your own!
Is there any evidence that ECT can effect hormones? After I had 6 ECT treatments, I started having chronic hunger. It has greatly contributed to severe insomnia I have developed. I have seen endo's & all kinds of doctors and been tested, no solution. Now I am ravenous 24/7 not relieved by food. Did anybody have this after ECT? NOTE: there may be no relation at all.
I find it interesting that you never cite your sources. Because you don't know what you're talking about. I'm getting ECT in a few weeks and I couldn't be happier. ECT is backed up by science and it provides hope and help to a lot of people.
Hi, I went through 27 sessions of ECT, I now have alzheimer's. I lost my wife of 26 years, my house, my job and my memories, good and bad. I am a clean cracked slate. I retired from the military and have a college degree. They are now worthless. ECT may have saved my life, but what life do I now have? My future holds days of lost and confusion. Would it have been better to die instead of walking around dead?
If electroshock were in any way supposed to be therapeutic it would use a gag lighter or pen instead of deliberator like shocks directly to the brain. See with a gag lighter or pen a person has the choice of picking the thing up and holding it down. A person would be able to control the intensity of the shock by letting go of the gag object at any time.
See this kind of shock might make a person feel happier and energetic. Current electroshock therapy on the other hand only destroys peoples brains without providing them help.
If electroshock is/was normal...why don't more people have experiences like the movie "phenomenon" -because electroshock is F^%$#@ up!!! Who ever created it is one hell of a monster and likes to watch people suffer-thank you for opening that up :o)
did you know that modern day psychiatry was invented by the nazis?everything major that psychiatry currently knows about the human brain comes from the results of all those horric tests that were done by nazi scientists on people before and during world war two
Stop trying a treat a ailment of the soul with physical means! There are ways to a person above any of this! Whose going to understand?
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I had electroshock therapy from October to November, 2010. It left me feeling a little foggy after each session, but I feel no lingering effects one year later. I am not free and clear of depression, but I was able to move out on my own, and hold down a job. I've made a few casual friends as well. Overall my mood improved measurably, I still feel down, but not in the deep and dark pit of despair I was in previously.
macdisciple 3 months ago
wwwelectricshocktherapy.info - This Website Exposes the "TORTURE", "DEATHS" and "MEDICAL FRAUD" surrounding Electro-Convulsive Therapy ("ECT") also known as "Electric Shock Therapy" and Insulan-Coma Therapy".
patbrodnik 4 months ago
therapy for the abuse they suffered as kids,
edavisdavis 4 months ago
because in most cases, it works and works well. for one, it saved my mothers life with very short term side effects.
don't you have any patients or do you just make provocative video's?
MyTouched 4 months ago
Hey... don't do anything wrong in the first place and there will be no reason to forget via EST. For anyone interested look up Freeman.... the guy who created the lobotomy. Some women with PMS were given lobotomies. EST is like a lobotomy but not as controlled..... it's crazy
brahud 4 months ago
essence of human quarrels with their political character: power and control over others .. not a medical service
makky1472 5 months ago
essence of human quarrels with their political character: power and control over others .. not a medical service
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makky1472 5 months ago
Some very petinent points raised here.Maybe a campaign to ban ECT?
stephhe 6 months ago
you guys insult him and call him idiot, but yet does not give any explanation or point about why he is an idiot. typical from clueless people that don't know shit.
oriostoteles 6 months ago
AMEN! This guy is just angry because it was forced on him. Read about his history. He is also Mentally Ill himself. Yes, so am I and I have received it and it SAVED MY LIFE. I have had minor short term memory loss as a side effect, yes, but I got ALL of it back. It is done in a VERY humane way and JUST WORKS. Anybody can get a Ph.D in anything. Just because he has one doesn't mean you should take his word on this procedure... It is ALL his opinion.
koochy79 6 months ago
This man is either unwell or an idiot
monkeychikung 7 months ago
sounds like what hes saying is you are giving yourself a toxic attack he says dont do it it like saying his main advice is dont try and commit suicde at your own risk
marc09676 7 months ago
Psychiatrist get a kick out of tasering people
CrusaderDom3 8 months ago 3
@CrusaderDom3 just like the police
micgee 4 days ago
Check out TMS therapy.
MonacoBlast 8 months ago
Dude, you're a quack.
setherial666 9 months ago
Some people have a religious experience that changes their lives after they get hit by a truck. Only a very sick person would then say it's good therapy to play in traffic.
ECT is no different than getting hit in the head with a bat. The only difference is no outward scars.
SatchelTomainFans 10 months ago
So whats the alternative. Its very easy to be against something. For severely depressed patients ect obvious could be therapeutic.
Their negative racing depressive thoughts have got stuck in a loop and something has to get them out of this situation.
If homoeopaths or psychologist have alternatives that work in these cases i like to hear them. Im thinking of ECT myself.
goldenbrenner 11 months ago
I have had 11 ECT treatments about 4 years ago, it has helped me want to live again. the only side effect is minor short term memory loss. i was at the lowest point of my life, no medications were working and i just wanted to die every day.
jimmyzep1 11 months ago 9
@jimmyzep1 That's great! However the thing with cognitive deficits is that the patient often is unaware of them him/herself. You could certainly have suffered other side-effects without being aware of them. Wikipedia has some good information about the topic.
mikaelhs 2 months ago
@jimmyzep1 try DMT
micgee 4 days ago
Ask someone who has had it. I guess he's ok giving medication that has 10-20 side effects and damage every organ in the body. This guy is slanting everything to his side.
*ECT is used when all else fails!*
adlopez415 1 year ago
LOOOOOOL
KuwaitiOutsider 1 year ago
Well it worked for Carrie Fisher! She has writen a book and doing a one woman show touring around the world....
suziescott2007 1 year ago
What exactly is the alternative then if Medications completely fail to work and Extreme amounts of Therapy fail to work? If i had depression i would rather take the chance of loosing part of my memory etc and becoming in a way slightly disabled then living in doom and wanting to kill myself. It would mean that i don't have to put my family though myself being depressed and maybe one day them coming in and finding me dead. If you don't have an alternative working solution then STFU
exhaustedfiles 1 year ago
Sparky, you just proved a point when you admitted to severe memory loss . . . and plug me in. BAD JUDGMENT! I am a "Survivor" of 58 such treatments. At one time I thought the same way you are thinking now. SINCE I AM FINALLY AWAKE, however, I am able to realize the long term destructive properties of Electroshock. I would never subject myself to another one.
Electroshock is devastating to relationships. My husband died of a stress related heart attack. I'm better now, but he's gone!
moonlight975424 1 year ago
It's like LSD as medicine, throwing a dice. Some get totally altered personality as a result.
voltagetoe 1 year ago
A South Carolina woman has become the first survivor of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT, shock treatment) to win a jury verdict of $635,177 for extensive permanent amnesia and cognitive disability.
Peggy S. Salters, 60, sued Palmetto Baptist Medical Center in Columbia, as well as the three doctors responsible for her care. As the result of ECT, she lost all memories of the past 30 years of her life. She was unable to work after ECT.
CandyLickrlXXX 1 year ago
ECT Works , fucking Scientology propaganda!!
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VelariValencia 1 year ago
ElectroShock Therapy has taken from me the most important memory of my life........ the memory of me consenting to have this therapy! It is not my place to recommend ECT to anyone, but ECT saved my life.
Anyone who uses words like archaic, barbaric, ancient and torture when describing modern day ECT obviously has no idea what they are talking about.
I have suffered severe memory loss as a result of ECT, but I am insistent that we continue the treatment as planed..... Plug me in!
Sparky150v 1 year ago
I think everyone should get ECT. Everyone except me. So there.
MonacoBlast 1 year ago
Modern ECT isn't the same procedure experienced in the past... and frankly research done specifically to look for physical changes in the brain via CT scan, fMRI, and post-mortem... no abnormalities found.
It -is- a medical procedure in all senses of the term and has risks and benefits associated... with that said ECT is generally an option of last resort when the possible benefits outweigh the risks... again like any medical procedure.
Stop ranting and brush off your research skills - do a m
kzw2zx 1 year ago
@kzw2zx It is not a medical procedure
PiercingKnight 1 year ago
this guy is a friggin quack
dillynrs 1 year ago
@dillynrs I don't think so
PiercingKnight 1 year ago
How do people come to believe ECT works? Because it works for a significant percentage of people who have clinical depression and it saves lives! The benefits significantly outweigh the possible side effects. It's that simple. Sorry I don't have a video, but search for "Sherwin Nuland, My History of Electroshock Therapy".
macdisciple 1 year ago
Qwack.
macdisciple 1 year ago
Far be it for me to agree with an activist! But i do. ECT IS BARBARIC, A DISGRACE, AND CAN BE USED TO MAKE THE PATIENT FORGET ASSAULT, ABUSE OR RAPE. ECT CAN BE USED FOR TORTURE AND COERSION. WHATS STOPPING THEM? DECENCY? ROFLMAO! THOSE OF YOU PROMOTING ECT SHOULD HAVE IT DONE TO YOU! IT WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON!
MassDeportation 1 year ago
For some people ECT saved their life, for other it created hell.
There are cases with people who lost their memory for up to 5 years and still have no short-memory. In Sweden its used more and more but nobody really knows if it will work for a patient or not, its really amazing how this can be allowed. The worst is that people dont get informed about the dangers.
If they knew about the potential risks they could make the choise if they think its worth the the risk or not.
SwPrAn 1 year ago
@SwPrAn The worst is that ect is ABUSED. ect can be used for torture and coersion, or even to make the patient forget some abuse they suffered so they wont tell anyone, or to make MONEY for the hospital. People are TOLD the ect helped them.
MassDeportation 1 year ago
Alot of Patients also said that Lobotomy helped them.
MasonicEyes 1 year ago
ECT had no effect on me tho exept headache probably more negative than positive experience in my case the doctor has failed to give me the correct treatment about 20 times and and im getting pretty sick and tired of it if i commit suicide its all thanks to my "Doctor"/Mad Scientist thinking lets use this depressed guy as a Lab Rat and fuck him up whith ECT,Benzo,SSRI,and predecessors from before SSRI existed i have had pretty much every sideeffect known to the fucking human race now!
StonedRaiderKush 1 year ago
This information is really usefull and explain a simple way so that everyone can understand it, the brain has such a delicate balance. The fact is that neurons are permanent cells if they die there is no replacement so I think it makes total sense, thank you doctor.
tatycrfull 1 year ago
No look at the results fool!!! It works
hman111 1 year ago
@hman111 If I constantly abused you telling you to correct a certain behavior, you'd act like I want you to as well. Except in this manner, you may or may not be a willing participant to correct this behavior, allowing for such abuse until you do change your behavior. I can do the same thing with a bat and get the same results.
LoveGrownCold 1 year ago
I am a retired Avro Engineer. I have been admisistered Electroshock Depatterning "Treatment". I am now mentally disabled, I have lost assets, I have lost my living.
Dr.FieldMonkey
FlyKingRy 1 year ago
Why stop with ECT, why not when a person is out from ECT , jam a metal rod up their nose and into the brain and take pictures .
truthisaliar2 1 year ago
bullshit! show us the evidence behind your ridiculous claims!!! you should be sued!!
crdarwin 1 year ago
My biggest concern about the administration of the procedure is that the exact reason that this treatment is "effective" is largely unknown. As the exact location of the cause of depression in the brain cannot be identified, it is dificult to accept that a "general administration" of electrical currents to the brain (not to one particular location - or problem area) can cause positive impacts. There may be some that believe that they improve from this, but it seems a tragic gamble.
CityofDestiny 1 year ago
this man is 100% right. not only the ECT but all the medicines are fake. they heal a disease but creates 100 more. my opinion is to keep your self far far away from all the medicines. Try to defeat the disease by your own immunity. did you ever feel that something is wrong with all this system of medication and government. if you have the that much wit and want to find why? is this something wrong then be with me and watch all of my videos coming soon
sKHANcreative 1 year ago
@sKHANcreative You are so right.... Quick, lets make insulin illegal. Many people don't know insulin can cause hypoglycemia, some people go into a coma and die. In this day and age, to make people stick themselves with a needle! Not only is it barbaric, it's humiliating. Only drug addicts do that. If your doctor ever diagnosis your child as a type 1 diabetic and prescribes insulin run as far away as you can. He's crazy.
Sparky150v 1 year ago
sensationalist
danielmurray04 1 year ago
Most western medicine is a bad deal. As hard as it is it's really best to try your hardest to work through your own mental health problems by studying your condition, modifying your behavior, and tracing your past working through your issues. It's hard as hell but its totally possible. Even antidepressants probably cause brain damage and who knows what else. Most things worth having take a lot of hard work.
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NarcisseOnze 1 year ago
Hello,
I can tell that the treatment of ECT has done well in my case.
I was hospitalized for 2 days in the week,and it took me 8 weeks with 16 treatments of ECT.I was treated for chronical depression.But i can say that it was the thing for me.
I tried all the medications for depression and i didn't feel well.
ECT works for some people.What can you do when medication don't get you anywhere.
You will search for something else to get free of depression.
Depression kills Prof.John Breeding!!
1880Jess1 1 year ago
That is NOT why I am not anticonvulsants. Anticonvulsants have been found effective for treating bipolar disorder. ECT has never been brought up during my treatment but even if it was, I am not confused or scared, I know exactly what my doctor is prescribing me and the decision is mine. I hope people will research this themselves instead of taking all of their information from one biased source. I am not saying that he is wrong, but clearly he represents only one viewpoint on the issue.
whitemongolian 1 year ago
What exactly is the purpose, that the people who administer electro-shock are apparently trying to achieve? I don't understand. Other than money could there be? How would you persuade a client to under-go that "treatment"?
AutumnSkyie 1 year ago
@AutumnSkyie It is used as an alternative to help people who do not respond to medication. It is typically used to treat depression and other mental disorders.
whitemongolian 1 year ago
@whitemongolian It is used as an alternative for people who don't respond to Alopathic medication , alopathy or symptomatic medicine doesnt get to the cause of the matter nor does ECT
ahamatmabrahman 10 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman I am confused by your comment, you don't seem to be disagreeing with me?
whitemongolian 10 months ago
@whitemongolian ok i think ect is barbaric and just not required , mental illness can be cured by holistic meds and ,enjoyable therapies and psychology
ahamatmabrahman 10 months ago
alasyon your site says your 27 I'm pretty damn sure he is older than 27 he knows way more than you? Are you a doctor who specializes in this if not
andizoe 1 year ago
Is this guy really a Ph.D ?
vecaredeo 1 year ago
(1) The amount of electricity used is not "massive". It is tiny. (2) There is no evidence that ECT causes brain damage. (3) The "blood brain" and "cell death" "cell death" "cell death" part is gibberish. (4) It does not "disable" the brain. (5) It causes nothing like a "closed brain injury". (6) Show me a study that disproves its efficacy. Sham electroshock has never been shown to work better than placebo. (7) No credible worldwide organisation has "banned" it. I could go on...
alasyon 1 year ago
spelled therapy wrong...
XxXStormydayzXxX 1 year ago
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You realize that modern ECT is mainly used to treat patients whose lives are threatened mainly by extreme cases of depression. ECT is used as a last resort when other methods have failed including behavioral and drug therapy. The reason is that in some of those cases ECT is the only method that works, and may in turn actually save those patients lives by reducing depression and giving them back the will to live. What would you rather lose; a part of your memory or your whole live?
danieldedaldo 2 years ago
a man like a .... goat
aerobique 2 years ago
Psychiatry isn't an exact science, nobody can say definitively what causes depression, if it is a chemical imbalance there is no test to prove this theory.
There are studies that disagree with the use of ECT likewise, studies that support it's use. ECT has different methods of application creating significant differences in outcome and ill effects.
Just because people disagree with your opinion, it isn't fair to label them as misinformed liars either.
bweb6 2 years ago 2
well said! anyone who thinks ect is good is a moron or at least grossly misinformed. If you support ect, go try it out. you won't support it for long, because you will eventually become too brain damaged to support anything, including yourself.
tdshow69 2 years ago
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aderjean 2 years ago
I agree that cause brain cell damage but think other way, if someone break arm or leg its bone damage after healing the place where its broke is more stronger than other part of that bone because the bone get more cell density that's why is more stronger, i think the brain also works that way. The doctor also have to indicate that ECT don't cause death its the anesthesia that cause death. .
Aaronnl 2 years ago 2
I know 3 people of my life who went to ECT one of them is my wife, they have great results all of them functioning perfect and they still working till now without any problem. I think they are now better than me for remembering things.
I don't want to encourage people doing it but so far i have not seen any side effects beside after the ECT they all had temporary memory lost after 2 or 3 months they remember every single thing.
Aaronnl 2 years ago 2
Well it was dr. Mengele's best invention! (I'm joking. I hope?)
ellandelachapelle 2 years ago
Thanks for the info. I'm trying to talk my dad out of it. I really hope he watches this video and doesn't make one of the biggest mistakes of his life by doing this.
PeaceLoveEternity 2 years ago
I have had a theory that,before ect the patient is subjected to authority or made to behave, at least to the point of submission.The shocks act like a magnet metal, lining up brain cells in a straighter pattern or 'fixing' the brain to a more helpful pattern.
I also used to think it was a way of scaring people or shocking them into submission, I know it'd make me think twice before misbehaving again, although I might have notions of revenge.
Now I think it creates new circuits fusing old ones
altrn8tiv 2 years ago
I once had accupuncture, and at the end he touched my ankle and it felt like an electric shock. I assumed this was to jolt my senses, wake me up, or shock me into behaving better.Not sure if it worked though. Worse than ect they used to do lobotomies with ice picks!
altrn8tiv 2 years ago
In addition to the comment below, I will point the reason why many people believes that ECT works. It is becaue "a significant number of patients ERRONEOUSLY belived that their memory had improved after ECT despite the fact that neurological testing cleary showed the opposite", quoting from wikipedia.
nk1218 2 years ago
I will answer some questions on this text comment lines. Most of time, IT IS TRUE THAT ECT CAUSES BRAIN DAMAGE(AT VERY HIGH RISK). And these patients have significantly lower recognition. But it is also true that ECT works for people who is really going to suicide and have no other option. BUT ECT WORKS FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY LOSE SOME TYPES MEMORY OF DEPRESSION. Make sure that they will also lose some important memories too. And THEY WILL HAVE LOVER RECOGNITION.
nk1218 2 years ago
this guy is passing on false info, please give us facts not bias.. he looks like he needs ECT
anhhdinh 2 years ago 4
@anhhdinh This guy is passing on very goood info, he's not only qualified but is very wise. ECT is abominable and so are many of the drug treatments for mental illness
ahamatmabrahman 11 months ago
@ahamatmabrahman
I'm not really very sure this guy has any clue about physiology - bandying around terms like 'blood brain barrier' as if that makes him scientifically knowledgeable, just listen to what he's saying, and think about it - that should be enough to discredit him. If it isn't, go and read some proper, *independent* research on ECT before deciding based on pro- or anti-medical stereotypes...
JackLBeadle 10 months ago
@JackLBeadle Blood brain barrier is a term I recognise, what,s wrong ? I am not in favour of ECT for many reasons 1 The brain consists of a fatty substance so think of what happens when you apply electric shock? in fact i don't even think a full body sauna is good, better to keep your head out and a cool wet cloth on the head 2. Imagine what might happen if you applied a similar shock to the heart? 3 I use herbs, shirodhara etc in my own practice, this works very well even in schyzophrenia
ahamatmabrahman 10 months ago
@anhhdinh you must be a psychiatrist drone or drug company official, but what ever you are getting money for saying that.
CrusaderDom3 8 months ago
I don't know about the US but in the UK it is a psychiatrist who decides on a patient's treatment because they're the 'medically' trained experts. They decide which drugs to use or in some cases, ECT. Psychologists study the mind too but they approach things in a different way, using treatments like cognitive behaviour therapy etc. I believe that a patient benefits from both 'medical' (drugs) & psychological treatments once the person has reached the coping stage where they can take CBT on board
LaFarfalla246 2 years ago
Why don't you just admit that the mental health system doesn't have a f^^^ing clue what theyre doing!
channel303 2 years ago
I had my 3rd ECT today and I feel I am among the living again! yeah!
This guy is an idoit! I have tried different meds and I feel so blessed to be able to have ECT. This guy is crazy !!! I tried to commit suiside two weeks ago and have been depressed for 16years and this is the 1st time I feel ALIVE!
krpgym8 2 years ago 2
I'm very happy for you! I agree with you. If it works then that is all the proof anyone needs. Take care!
kwh8c 2 years ago 5
Are you still felling like that? My memory beggins too come back after 2 months but my brain is fucked up right now. Thanks.
shp0ngle 2 years ago
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terrilynndempsey 1 year ago
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@krpgym8 You said you've been depressed for 16 years. How many of those years have you been on medication?
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najem 2 years ago
You say that you don't agree with ECT as a psychologist but why do you agree with giving people medications, only to have it cause physical health issues? It may work on some people, but the majority of people in the u.s are constantly seeking higher dosages because of the ineffectiveness of these drugs. I stopped taking mine for major depression due to chemical imbalance and being bipolar. I now not only have to manage these illnesses, but muscle spasms and brain shocks.
firestorm17000 2 years ago
i have had 43 treatments (the most recent one today). i am tired of people not understanding te benefits of this therapy. yes, it has been barbaric in the past. yes it has been used as mind control and torture in the past.
but i have gone from a completely intent on suicide individual into a sane(r), more thoughtful, more able to do therapy, more cohesive person through ect. i would recommend it to anyone. (& i still have my menza iq!)
reneenicolea 2 years ago 3
Exactly the type of comment i was looking for, I'm very pleased for you and hope we get the same positive results.
kiwikeel 2 years ago 2
I don't know if you are mensa(not menza!) or not, I know I am, but what ECT affects most in the brain is not the IQ itself, what ECT affects most (besides some memory loss)is the ability to relate to other people due to its damage to the frontal lobes(where the electrodes are commonly placed). Tragically, I can attest to that: after I got only 3 sets when I was 19 years old, I was able to obtain an engineering degree Magna Cum Laude, but my interpersonal relations have been always very poor.
nilremo1 2 years ago
I dont beleive you still got mensa iQ after ect. No memory lost? How many ect threatments did you have? And how many months until you was back too normal.???
Thanks.
shp0ngle 2 years ago
And how you feeling today? I had 145 in iQ once upon a time...
Now my memory is fucked up. Cant organize or anything...
Been two months. And i must heal. I hope i dont have permanent memory loss. But it seems like i have.. :/ I hate them.
Thanks.
shp0ngle 2 years ago
clearly not as your spelling is atrocious
hendrixphish420 1 year ago
@hendrixphish420 For the record, typos are not an indication of vocabulary nor intelligence. Not only do I know more words than you, I bet I spell better than you. Shall we compete at scramble?
reneenicolea 1 year ago
@hendrixphish420 For the record, typos are not an indication of vocabulary nor intelligence. Not only do I know more words than you, I bet I spell better than you. Shall we compete at scramble?
reneenicolea 1 year ago
@reneenicolea ah, the dreaded double post. My apologies for my impatience.
reneenicolea 1 year ago
Doctor Consult. We Have Here a Brain. Which We Have Extremely Limited Knowledge Of It's Workings. We Basically Have No Idea How It Operates. In My Medical Opinion "I Recommend We Shock The Crap Out Of It!!!" This is the treatment, Are You kidding Me?
JHAIRY1212 2 years ago
might be the final frontiere if every other type of therapy has been tried and failed
bambapabbi 2 years ago
Every type of therapy has been tried so shock your brain into submission? I'm sure memory loss could fix the problem though. You won't even remember what was bothering you in the first place.
Antoniac123 2 years ago
Wow you guys are just nuts. You are actually having a debate about this. I actually didn't believe this kind of therapy was still in practice. We are talking about electroshock. It is used as torture as well. This is all just barbaric. This society has gone to the moon, photographed the smallest parts of an atom and electroshocks people to improve their behavior. Something is really wrong with that. In one hundred years people will think we are just insane.
Antoniac123 2 years ago 2
I also want to stress i did my own research on this. I think some of you are so hooked into this horrid system you will not face the facts regarding the long-term damage ECT/medication treatments cause.
Antoniac123 2 years ago
Now the Police use there cattle prods on people so they comply, what next?
kevbrav 2 years ago
I know, i just don't know what to think.
Antoniac123 2 years ago
Lobotomy anyone? Our medical profession used to do these, cutting out part of the brain thinking it would cure a mental illness........how CRAZY is such a thing! Get info on Lobotomies and you won't believe how stupid it is. The history of it.
katieshealinggarden 2 years ago
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katieshealinggarden 2 years ago
Hello psychetruth. Could you please send me links to published, peer-reviewed studies to back up your claims? I am very interested in this area, and I am versed in some of the literature on the subject.
What you speak about in this video runs contrary to everything I have read in my textbooks at university, and I would greatly appreciate it if you could send me those links so I can make sure that I am getting a balanced and- more importantly- empirically truthful understanding of the practice.
JohnnyJimply 2 years ago 2
I was a patient of ECT and had 9 treatments. I had no memory loss. I know others do. My experience with ECT was humane and incredibly helpful. Im a functioning individual now while before I was too sick to be out of the hospital. According to this man, My brain is disabled and that Im subdued As I said before, its a therapeutic treatment that has saved many peoples lives including mine. Do NOT consider his information valid!!!
alyssaamer 2 years ago 5
one video. You could be a person who works with this and fights for the information.
shp0ngle 2 years ago
@alyssaamer ... thank you for sharing your story.
macdisciple 1 year ago
@alyssaamer Oh really? Your recent activity shows that this is the only video you ever viewed with this account. You logged in around the time you posted this comment too, and no other. It's all on your you tube channel. Are you some angry psychiatrist who created this account only to misinform people so you wouldn't lose out on money? Anyways, what you say does not match what others are saying who received ETC.
PiercingKnight 1 year ago
@PiercingKnight Woah! Good catch! And his desparate buddies logged on to rate his vid. This was really such a fake comment it screams! But I guess no surprise from some people to be able to lie only. Its a diagnosis in itself.
csurmi22 1 year ago
@alyssaamer Can you make a video of yourself? Where I can see it?
csurmi22 1 year ago
@alyssaamer Have you ever seen a brain-scan of someone who's had electro-shock therapy?
terrilynndempsey 1 year ago
@alyssaamer - I have witnessed the direct aftermath of only thirty-six ECT sessions and have kept in touch with nine of these recipients over the last twenty years. I observed initially that there were four of these recipients that faired well. Two were nearly phenomenal ! However, of the remaining thirty-two, twenty six experienced significant loss in mental acuity and eight suffered noticeable personality modification.
Some people are not aware of their losses.
MAGNETGRUNT 1 year ago
Medical "practice". We are "patient" guinea pigs for their practice. Pure Frankenstein!
FindlaySucks 2 years ago
i had it. i regret it.
tendrplace 2 years ago
Be extremely careful : this man supports the sect of scientology !
Inform yourself please before being a prey. Too many victims of sects in the world :-(
Rotulette 2 years ago 2
who cares if it wipes out your memory u can releanr that shit anyway, if i forget i have a son when i get through with the damn therapy and have a 3 year old calling me mom i'll figure it out. I WANT ECT!! and if i dont get it i will do my own version with a radio and my bathtub!
HeyPlayGirl99 2 years ago
oh my goodness. that was funny! " my own version with a radio and a bathtub". hahahahaah
yoguey 2 years ago
I don't know what to think about ECT. My mum had extreme depression. She tried to commit suicide a couple of tmes. She wouldn't take drugs. After ect she seemed to become "normal" again for many years. It felt like I had my mum back again. Now she has "dementia" and is totall incontinent and in another world mostof the time. Unable to even sit up or feed herself. Which was better, death or this?
sweetoak 2 years ago
u tell me...what was better,...death or that?
I really want to know.
yoguey 2 years ago
I'm not sure why you say "of all things." Depression is what it's used to treat; and you're right, you will never know - she may very dead.
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
ECT is an abomination and needs to be stopped. Period. This was done to my mother in the 60's for depression of all things. Quacks! Her brain will never be the same and we will never know what she should really be like today had she not had ECT. 5 * video. Thanks. D
dvmcgovern 2 years ago
Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption....go google it
netgemiplayer 2 years ago
Are you that impressionable that you believe everything you read something on the internet? I'm not saying that the pharmaceutical industry is made up of saints, but if you google it the right way, you can probably find that your penis is made of bamboo (hey - maybe it is!).
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
Was Ernest Hemmingway brain damaged?
How about me. I have bipolar disorder and I am on the Dean's List in Engineering at Cornell. Am I brain damaged?
A nurse at one inpatient ward I stayed at "urged" that I undergo ECT. My response was:
a. The human brain is too valuable for someone to suggest radical "treatment" and later say "Oops."
b. I asked him, if he insisted, how many lawyers he would want me to hire when I filed a lawsuit.
The discussion promptly ended after that.
BFA118 2 years ago 3
>Was Ernest Hemmingway brain damaged?
I don't know; and guess what - neither do you?
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by pointing out your academic achievements other than to boast? Who ever claimed that mental illness necessarily has a bearing on intelligence? Can you say John Nash, boys and girls?
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
Did John nash get ect? In the movie he tried doing it himself? Anyone got proof?
Thanks.
shp0ngle 2 years ago
...and get ready to spend the rest of your life paying off those lawyers - if they'll take your case, that is. It's extremely rare that anyone who's consented to ECT has had a leg to stand on.
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
I've also heard horror stories from people who denied any treatment, relied on self-resolve and God's grace and Eastern medicine and Western medicine and still put a 357 magnum into their mouths anyway. Nothing is a cure-all, everything has its downside, but when youre at the end of your rope and life literally isnt worth living, ECT doesnt seem like such a crime against humanity, it seems like one more hope you can hold on to
colebishop85 2 years ago 3
I've heard the horror stories, Hemingway, teachers who forgot how to teach, people not knowing who their families are. I know they're true, but if the failures were in greater numbers than the successes, do you really think our greedy insurance companies would even pay for this knowing theres a lawsuit coming soon after?
colebishop85 2 years ago
Get over it pal. And comparing epilepsy and chronic convulsions to the seconds of convulsions during ECT? Why don't you just compare anesthesia to being paralyzed. You say you're a "survivor of ect", and now you have all this resolve and energy and passion to help people...Ever think that might be because of the ECT? This isn't one flew over the cuckoos nest anymore, Jack, it isn't torture. This is a golden bullet sometimes that can stop suffering in it's tracks. Deal with it.
colebishop85 2 years ago
"Crime against humanity", genocide and rape are crimes against humanity, not a last resort treatment that's effective for people who have no where else to turn. Millions of people are "unable to work after electric shock"? Millions of people are unable to work because all they can think about is blowing their heads off, because easteran AND western medicine has been unable to help.
colebishop85 2 years ago
"In an interview with "Houston Chronicle"in 1996, Melissa Holliday, a former extra on 'Baywatch' and model for 'Playboy' stated the ECT she received in 1995, 'ruined her life'. She went on to state, 'I've been through a rape, and electroshock therapy is worse. If you haven't gone through it, I can't explain it'"
(Wikipedia)
So it's worse than rape.
When ECTwas suggested to me, it wasn't a last resort.
People with mental illnesses need empowerment, not learned helplessness.
BFA118 2 years ago
ECT, why do I even have to talk about this?" You don't and you shouldn't. How did it get that medical science etc. believes that shocking the brain is therapy? Maybe its not
sit down and lets talk about your problems therapy, but it works. It IS beneficial to millions of people. I've read more success stories than I can even count. You say "cell death cell death cell death". I hate to break it to you but cells die if you bump your head or drink too much, get over it.
colebishop85 2 years ago
What you people who are saying that ECT causes brain damage don't realize is that with severe clinical depression, the brain is ALREADY damaged.
It's like saying a woman shouldn't get a mastectomy because it causes breast damage!
JeffRotull43 2 years ago
And MAYBE, idiots like you who think that the brain needs therapy to fix itself need to think on this; okay, so I'm depressed, la-di da-di, and I don't like life. first of all, how is one supposed to be content with life these days? we have people like YOU telling us that WE need to be FIXED, now I don't know if you have some sort of vendetta against fake medical illnesses, but let me tell you this, depression MAY be a chemicl balance issue, but it is also based on circumstances.
invertedteapot 2 years ago
I'M the one who has the vendetta against "fake medical illnesses?!" Have you listened to yourself?!
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
The link to this page signed me on under this other user name. Just to clear up any confusion, I'm
JeffRotull43 - the one you directed your diatribe at.
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
...and I haven't told YOU - either individually or collectively - to handle anything in any particular type of way. You're obviously very resentful about mistreatment you received and obviously misdirected your anger toward me.
So let me get this straight - you believe there's a chemical aspect to depression, yet it doesn't need to be treated - just give it time and it will correct itself. Do I have that right?
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
I personally have a criminal record due to being forced into a negative situation. now, when taken COMPLETELY off of treatment, suddenly I'm doing fine. currently deployed to the middle east with the US Army, living it up (as much as you can in the desert). riddle me this, sir, are we going to start treating babies for mental incapacities because of incontinence and not functioning as high as the rest of us? are we going to use ECT? look up MK ULTRA. ease just how painfully misinformed you are.
invertedteapot 2 years ago
So if you're "suddenly" doing fine, what were you being treated for to begin with?
ECT is meant to be a last resort. Was it wrongly recommended to you? Is that why you harbor such resentment? And I've read more about depression and ECT than you probably will in your lifetime. May I ask what makes you so well informed?
As I said, I never said you should be doing anything. It sounds to me like you're the one telling people what and what not to do!
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
Obviously, you people are quite naive or have never had a family/friend endure ECTS. I speak from personal experience. My husband is BiPolar and has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder from the Vietnam war. He is now 65 years old. He was in the hospital being treated for recurrent flashbacks. He was given a series of ECTS in 2002. They did not erase the war experiences. They did not help his depression. His memory has been greatly affected. His personality has changed. This treatment is barbaric!!!
TheSmiling44 2 years ago
How would you what experience I may or may not have had with ECT? Don't assume things.
From the way you describe it, it sounds as if your husband was in seriously bad shape before and the ECT now gives you something to blame it on. Have you considered blaming the politicians who waged a war as fruitless as the one they're raging now.
I'm not saying I would feel comfortable encouraging someone to get ECT. Though calling for it to be banned when it's helped so many completely lacks all logic.
1PinkFreud 2 years ago
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mattlencfc 2 years ago
man, how boring is this guy?!
JeffRotull43 2 years ago
I have seen ECT performed as a life saving intervention many times. I would recommend it in preference to pharmaceutical treatment for severe depression any day.
cabarlah1 2 years ago
In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing experiment they paid a psychiatrist in montreal to carry it out using Massive electric shocks 80 times stronger than what was considered normal if any of it is normal. I was one of Dr Cameron's victims I am telling my story on you tube at youkilledyourmother
photo986 2 years ago
This treatment has the validity of bloodletting, phrenology, and the theory of the humors.
People forget vast periods of their lives. They forget their wives/husbands, their education and vocational training becomes worthless, and they lose comforting nostalgias.
Think before you support practices like involuntary commitment and treatment.
BFA118 2 years ago
You're full of shit. I defy you to show me a documented case where someone forgot his or her spouse or anything similar to that; and nobody receives involuntary ECT anymore. People already possess enough ignorance - stop compounding it with your own!
JeffRotull43 2 years ago
Since I cannot post links on youtube, google these.
Here's one case. Peggy S. Salters lost 30 years of memory including that of her husband and was awarded $635,177.
Ernest Hemmingway, committed suicide after ECT. "It was a brilliant cure but we lost the patient..."
On involuntary ECT, google Ray Sanford.
Take time to educate yourself on the topic. Otherwise you sound like peasantry.
Please do email me. Your attacks on my knowledge are amusing.
bfa3 at cornell dot e d u
BFA118 2 years ago
Is there any evidence that ECT can effect hormones? After I had 6 ECT treatments, I started having chronic hunger. It has greatly contributed to severe insomnia I have developed. I have seen endo's & all kinds of doctors and been tested, no solution. Now I am ravenous 24/7 not relieved by food. Did anybody have this after ECT? NOTE: there may be no relation at all.
2live45 2 years ago
Remember what happened to R.P. McMurphy
lilbill73 2 years ago
imo ect has similar 'logic' to bloodletting, drain the illness out, burn the illness out, its disgusting. Electrical lobotomy.
smmeegal 2 years ago
animals have more rights than psychiatric patients
fuzzbox5150 3 years ago 3
I find it interesting that you never cite your sources. Because you don't know what you're talking about. I'm getting ECT in a few weeks and I couldn't be happier. ECT is backed up by science and it provides hope and help to a lot of people.
AlycenChesley 3 years ago
happy about having ECT?you need your head examining
fuzzbox5150 3 years ago
Hi, I went through 27 sessions of ECT, I now have alzheimer's. I lost my wife of 26 years, my house, my job and my memories, good and bad. I am a clean cracked slate. I retired from the military and have a college degree. They are now worthless. ECT may have saved my life, but what life do I now have? My future holds days of lost and confusion. Would it have been better to die instead of walking around dead?
helosardig 2 years ago
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ObamaBinBiden2010 3 years ago
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all psychiatrists are sociopathic animals and all psychologists their fawning minions
ObamaBinBiden2010 3 years ago
If electroshock were in any way supposed to be therapeutic it would use a gag lighter or pen instead of deliberator like shocks directly to the brain. See with a gag lighter or pen a person has the choice of picking the thing up and holding it down. A person would be able to control the intensity of the shock by letting go of the gag object at any time.
SmileNow2 3 years ago
See this kind of shock might make a person feel happier and energetic. Current electroshock therapy on the other hand only destroys peoples brains without providing them help.
SmileNow2 3 years ago
If electroshock is/was normal...why don't more people have experiences like the movie "phenomenon" -because electroshock is F^%$#@ up!!! Who ever created it is one hell of a monster and likes to watch people suffer-thank you for opening that up :o)
tartarsauce055 3 years ago 2
i would call it crowd control, not therapy
comngetsome 3 years ago
did you know that modern day psychiatry was invented by the nazis?everything major that psychiatry currently knows about the human brain comes from the results of all those horric tests that were done by nazi scientists on people before and during world war two
wedrinkmountaindew 3 years ago