I've personally raced both lt1 and ls1, lt1 stock wasn't even close ls1 pulled on me after about 5 sec off the line. Both Cars are good in their own way
O.K. what mods on the srt? i have a 93 LT1 formula I/E CHIP 160 STAT 3.73's and have yet to lose to a STOCK skittle(i'm 54 and keep my bird running like the day i picked it up)i know alot of people come up against old abused LT1's.
Just a little message to explain to the dumbfuck srt-4 haters on youtube.
Due to the boost on an srt-4 it is tuned to were the tq is around the hp range, making the srt-4 superior from rolls, beating v8 cars, often 300-350hp from rolls. From a stop, the ws6 would have lit the srt-4 up. A stock srt-4 is spiking 14lbs of boost, if you mod it with a 150$ wastegate, then you can up the boost to about 22 with everything else stock, making the srt-4 around 300hp, beating even more things.
@BryanLovesDub ...not sure what the hell was up here in this race but it claimed both cars where stock...now i do find it somewhat hard to believe a stock SRT4 took a stock LS1 F body car...thats an easy 5-6 car difference in them cars at the drag strip in stock form...dono tho..maybe it was a fucked up LS1 or it needed the best mod of all..driver mod..hell if i know..just does'nt make sense..LS1 F body's have ran as fast as 12.8's STOCk with good drivers of course..i know a SRT4 stock cant
@ilovechevy1 heres how i know this though. i owned a 2001 camaro z28 ls1, 6 speed with full exhaust and intake. Me being a good driver, still lost to an srt4 from a roll. he claimed he was stock, and i did alot of research when i got home. stock srt4's can beat ls1 f bodies from a ROLL. me being one case. off the line. yes you are right the quarter mile time is different, because it's fwd with less power. rolls however have different factors in them. srt4's are great from rolls.
@BryanLovesDub ..this is very interesting...believe me when i say i'm not saying you are wrong..but if you are right...it makes me wonder yah know...i have no beef with an SRT4..but i have seen many a turbo 4 cyl of all types such as STi's and EVO's and modded turbo civics loose in all types of races to an F body ( LS1) ..the EVO's and STI's with thier AWD will trounce a stock F body off the line at the track then the LS1 power will make you blow by them around the 8th mile...kinda like a roll?
@ilovechevy1 and yes. i've seen sti's lose to srt4's by car links. as well as evo's. this i have to explain more in depth though. if you look at a stock srt'4's dyno sheet. they have more hp than torque. being that they boost so high, their torque peak is like 5k rpm's? sounds funky right? evos and sti's are way lower. the torque at this rpm causes them to be really really fast at high rpms. lets say you hve side by side evo and srt4, 40 roll. The srt peaks its torque when the evo peaks his hp.
@Greeneyeddevl you run 14's in your ws6? just go ahead and tell everyone how bad you suck at life while you're at it. My WS6 hit 13.1 BONE STOCK, ran 12.6 with only lid and exhaust.
@Greeneyeddevl im just saying, ive never seen a ws6 run as slow as 14s in the 1/4. you must have been pulling a 2.5 60ft. several guys have managed 12s bone stock trapping 110. maybe your ws6 is in desperate need of a driver mod...fucking idiot
All these jealous kids can't face the fact that fireturds and all other V8s garbage is obsolete and outdated. Sorry a turbo 4 cylinder sedan can piss on your compensation V8 because your dick's the size of a tic-tac.
you know what name the time and place and ill run you in my Trans Am with my LT1 and you can run your little SRT4 and we will see who wins hell we can do it for pinks if your man enough
I find it shocking that the race was that close. I have raced many SRT-4's. The stock ones I put 3 or 4 car lengths on. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I wasn't there but I'm still puzzled the Trans Am lost.
You are a fucking moron lmao, listen at 0:02...that is not stock exhaust, and there is no way a stock srt4 could keep up with a ws6, unless the guy driving has parkinsons.
Snap back to reality? Learn a thing or 2 about cars, there's no way in hell an srt4 could beat a ws6 unless the driver was extremely bad. And it's "you're" funny, not "your" funny.
@papaown lol ok kid calm down, take your own advice, every single mod i have ever had done to any of my cars was done in my own garage with my own two hands not to mention 2 years of college for my ASE certs that i got years and years ago, i think it would be you that needs to learn a few things about cars, and "your" a douche so stfu
@papaown one thing i forgot to add, there are plenty of vids of stock srt4s walking modded and stock ws6 and i have walked them many different times myself in my srt4 back when it was bone stock it happens just get over it man i mean shit its happening in this video right here, but im sure since your a ws6 fan boy you just can't bring yourself to believe a fact oh well like i said just keep on dreaming :)
do it from a dig. that race was set up for the srt4. turbo cars love to race from a roll because the turbo is pre spooled up. from a dig that trans am would have beat him by prob 2 cars
@GreenGT09 dodge under rated the hp on stock srts its really 240whp about 275crank hp and the srt is lighter which means 240hp will do more then the heavy ass ws6 can do with 330 which breaks down to about 285-280 whp for the ws6
14.2 for stock srt fast but come on. i like them but they won't beat my trans am. All I have done is an exhaust system and some better tires and I'm sitting at consistent 12.8 on quarter mile and racing on a dig is a bad idea against a ta even an ls1 which has more high end power. Happy Ricing :)
lol too bad a TA stock will pull 13.2 quarter mile and that this entire video is shit and is a setup between two friends. I have raced modded srt-s in my basically stock TA and smoked them with more than a couple car lengths. Stop being dicklovers. nothing against ricers but keep it real. Unless there was a 2 yr old driving the "ta" of course.
im sorry but stock vs stock fro a dig or a roll start the ws6 shoulda won. my ws6 isnt stock but when it was im sure it would have taken that srt ate it then shit it out. but thats just because i know how to drive.
srt4s are roll racing beast but from a dig they just cant get off the line that good. if they can get it off the line they would b alot better. but that ws6 shouldnt have lost tho must have a weak clutch or the srt got the jump form the get go cuz the ws6s run like a 13.3 out of the box from factory
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Sounds like a fast door stop. Good job. Oh and my Grandma bought a Caliber after she gave me her Neon so she doesn't need it back. Thanks for the comment though!!! You added a lot.
@JeremySRT haha that was a good one towards the raatard zr1zora lol there just jealous that srt-4's are beast i have a 2004 srt4 with 305 hp to the wheels
second srts are roll racing machines.. buddy has one that cant get out of the 14s but will roll up a consistant high 13 sec car from a roll..
really shows ignorance when you are talking about how the t/a would shit on the srt4 all day, when in fact this video shows that it isnt true.. im sorry that the srt4 just walked the all mighty ls1.. maybe you should stop nut swinging off of it and open your eyes..
Yeah or the SRT4 is modded. I raced an SRT4 wiht my 2002 T/A and beat it by like 4 car lengths. Or the T/A has a bad clutch, needs a tube up, somethin. Or the kid needs me to drive it.
It was an auto and we did race from a dig I just dont have a vid of it. He took me by one car from a dig. We were just out fuckin around and bored so we decided to do a few runs.
garbage race. t56 comes out of first @ 50. so this cat probably started in second. howcome you tuner pussies wont ever go from dig... even you sti queers wont.
I launch at 20 psi, I run a lot more boost than that smart guy. Also, please strap on a turbo and see how long it will run on your car before blowing at 20 psi, get a clue. I'm not going to get into an argument with you over cars on the internet, I have more of a life than that.
I saw your stupid vid of you power braking your car, big whoop, my old jeep can do that. I'm awd and I can spin all four tires, AND it's only a little 4cylinder 2.0 motor. Anyway, your car looks nice, I respect that. I don't hate you or your car because it comes from a different company, that would be pure ignorance. I hope you can appreciate that I make over 400 whp even if it isn't a v8.
Wow, two cars that both trap around 103mph in the 1/4 and it's a driver's race from a roll... who'da thunkit?
SRT got the jump, and it's a close enough race that the WS6 had to play catch-up the whole time, that's pretty much al I saw. Yes a stock WS6 *should* be faster than a stock SRT-4, but not by a very large margin folks, get over it.
All differences aside, anything can happen on the street. Rite? I own a WS6 and Id be very very impressed if a stock SRT4 beat me. And to be honest, i really wouldnt mind getting one as a daily driver seeing as they seem to be very reliable lil cars?
Ok sure, it won this time. Probably got the launch on the automatic LS1 with two fat chicks in the back seat and the A/C on. All im saying here folks, a stock LS1 is faster then a Stock SRT4 No matter what. Stock for stock, when you put them on paper it is faster. RWD vs. FWD, with half the torque. Stock for Stock, the LS1 is quicker. Agreed?
In perfect conditions the ls1 is faster....but that DOES NOT mean it can't be beat by an SRT-4. That is the only reason I even posted this crappy vid.
Half the torque? An 04 or 05 SRT-4 puts down 250 lb-ft of torque to the wheels stock. Not to mention that an SRT-4 makes max torque all the way from 2200 rpm to over 5000, and weighs 2900lbs. I'm not saying that a stock SRT-4 is faster than a WS6, but from a roll it's not a bad race. On the highway the SRT runs like a low 13-second car, it's the launch that kills it in the 1/4 mile times.
If you guys seriously think that a stock SRT4 Neon will beat a stock WS6 at any speed (roll, dog, reverse, uphill, downhill, sideways) You really need some help. Has anyone of you been in a stock LS1 and seen the way it pulls up top? It is not uncommon for a LS1 with intake and exhaust to break into the high 12s with a capable driver...
To a point. If you are a very bad driver it's hard to drive an ls1 into a 14 honestly. You have to be a bad driver to do that. ANd at a roll I don't think it's slow. I'm not sure when boost spools up in the srt but Honestly from a roll NA > Boost All day. Unless your boost launching at like 30 lol.. And I don't think his brakes are even pressd. The srt4 is rated to run a 14.1 the ls1 ws6 is rated to rn a 13.5. So I guess it depends. Honestly I think the ws6 would take it stock vs stock everytime
I'll agree that it takes a bad driver to run 14's in a LS1 car. But how bad can you screw up a roll race in an auto? The boost comes on quick with the stock turbo. Sure the srt may be rated at 14.1, but the factory or magazine times are almost always slower than the real world. I agree it should be close in threory, but the lighter weight and a quick spooling turbo on the srt makes it a strong runner. Too bad it cant get out of the hole due to sucky fwd.
hey it happens...my brother has a 50trim swapped 05 acr with ALL the fuel goodies,full boltons and tuned he can hang right with me from a roll and i make 416/410 with a T2 cammed 01WS6 M6 car with stock rear end....the dig race, welllll thats a diff story, unless he's sportin the hoosiers...
The WS6 would eventually pull around the SRT due to the high winding LSx motor. This has been proven time and time again. But from a ROLL....The SRT will win.Stand still, a different story. And I've owned both fwd and rwd cars. So I'm speaking from experience. Get over it, quit your bitching. There will ALWAYS be someone faster.
LOL. Stock for stock quarter mile times are .5 secs apart. NOW, figure the weight difference on a roll race. 533 lbs, granted thats not a whole lot, BUT it's a big difference on the get up and go part. The SRT will pull EVERYTIME. It's sheer physics.
The power to weight ratio is in the SRT's favor. 230 hp to the wheels @ 2984 lbs.
The WS6 is making 300 hp to the wheels @ 3157 lbs.
Ok first of all get something better to tape the race with whatever your in is slow... Second I drive a 00 LS1 Camaro with an auto tranny thats pretty much stock an I would race any SRT neon anytime my buddie had a slow mustang an walked all over a not so stock neon an I'll take down any all motor mustang with my mods so how bout i race your neon... an KfCOrBust knows what he's talkin about cuz he's an Ls1tech member like me an we know stok LS1>SRT neon 7 days a week
Have you ever heard of punctuation? Secondly, just because your boyfriend here is a member of LS1Tech does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about.
Maybe you should find better drivers in the SRT4. I have yet to be pulled by a T/A. I have only raced one modded one but he miss shifted everytime. Still walked his ass though. I LOVE the ls1 but hate what they put it in. Maybe that is why GM stopped making them.....
Nah dude, SRT4s are shit slow from the factory. I shit on them in my old Mazdaspeed6 with and my car would get walked easily by an LS1 F body. Either these cars weren't stock as advertised, bad driver, poorly running car...etc. LS1 > SRT4 stock for stock.
If I EVER got pulled by a stock mazdaspeed 6 I would sell my car the next day. First of all they make less power than an SRT-4 and they are a lot bigger car. I wish there were less people that race on the internet and more that actually race. Then maybe they would actually believe something they SEE...not just what it says on paper.
And you're a fucking idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. Last time I checked a Speed6 makes 274hp/280tq and the SRT4 made what, 230hp/250tq? Speed6 has superior gearing with the 6 speed and it's just no chance from a dig. I raced a couple stock-ish SRT4s when I had my Speed6 and I beat them both easily. I didn't truly believe they were as slow as the were until I test drove one. Then I realized the full failure that is the SRT4 Neon.
Theres no way,unless the TA driver was granny shifting it.I know SRT4s are quick,but WS6s do 0-60 in about a second quicker,and 1/4 in about a sec quicker.its a 100 hp difference,and WS 6s arent THAT much heavier than a SRT4.
Well the SRT-4 won.....the end. Guess that T/A isn't a low 13 sec car or, maybe my SRT can run low 12s stock? I mean if every T/A runs low 13s?? But...this is from a roll so that low 13 doesn't really mean anything. Both cars trap around the same mph.
the top end of an ls1 would be to much. I dont hate on turbo cars...I own one myself...I just know a stock LS1 is gunna beat an srt-4...Not enbarass it...just beat it
race from a dig and see wut happens to that srt4..and yes the srt is a 14 sec car and the TA is a low 13 sec car..i agree the srt is a fast car but not faster than a TA..yes it lost here but racing from a roll is the only way an srt will take a TA..Race from a dig next time!
dude my fucking stock trans am ran a 13.5 non ram air. why do people have to be in denial. you get better gas mpg. Your parts are cheaper and you can walk into an srt 4 engine bay. I would smoke srt 4s back in the day when i couldn't driver for shit.
Some people must have factory freaks caus most F bodies I race end the same. As for a trans am being a low 13 sec car.....maybe on drag radials. Then again a friend of mine's SRT with bfg DRs and a WG spring ran a 13.3 thats a low 13 sec. car. Both cars have close to the same power but the neon weighs less. Oh and the WS6 is just a susp. package the car still has the same HP just weights more.
what are you talking about? Stock TA runs low 13's all day...and close to the same power? what?! trans am rated 330 and neon 230...thats not even close...from a roll this race shouldnt be close stock for stock...neon is a 14 second car stock the TA low 13's.
Thats 230whp for the neon and 330 crank hp for the trans am. Dodge published whp numbers for insurance purposes. The trans am is a lot heavier, and if it was an auto it had gas saving 273 gears. Go kill yourself.
330 crank is about 280 to the wheels....you idiot..you know nothing about cars...i drive a tuner car stock cobalt ss turbo...same power as the srt (about)....and a trans am auto or stick would pull at least 5-10 lengths or so depending on driver b4 140....you are an idiot...die now please.
I have an srt-4, and love it.. I have to say though, that a WS6, stock for stock, should pull away a little bit. It would be a decent race, but the trans am is faster. They have about 330hp at the crank, and do weigh more than our cars.. but that's a good 60hp advantage, and a good deal of torque too. With a good driver, a WS6 can run low 13's stock, I see it all the time at my local drag strip. All you have to do to an SRT4 to get low 13's would be tires, motor mounts, maybe WGA.
actually, i've never tried AWD. do u still get the same sick burnouts and donuts as the RWD? i'm pretty sure they accelerate faster since they get better traction, right?
LOL no you cant do burnouts...thats because you don't really need to. Well you can but not like you see on a RWD. They accelerate awesome...a good driver can get like 1.5 60ft times.
The mopar stage 2 doesn't do a lot for the car by itself. If you pair it with an SST or E1 turbo then you can make a pretty quick sleeper. The SRT-4 is not the fastest car out there but it is quick enough for me. That ws6 beat me by one car from a dig. I have found that it is more driver than anything. I have beat cars I should not have beat and, I have messed up and got beat by cars I should have walked. I hate roll races but we were bored.
please explain how a stock srt can beat your cobra or your friends ss when my sons ffriends stock srt gets beat by 2-2 1/2 cars by my 93 firebird formula and i have an LT1 under the hood with just k&n and a flowmaster
out back,as on previous posts i'm 51 so i'm not ragging on anyones car,but if i can take him and stock LS1'S take me by 2-3 cars,i just don't get it!!
you guys need to wake up, lol! my stage 2 wrx runs train on stage 2 srt4's all day, from a roll and ESPECIALLY from a dig. and i only have about 220-230whp.
I would NEVER own an SRT-4 but they put down 220-230whp stock dude. A stage 2 SRT weighs 400+ lbs less than you and would have whatever hp gains the stage 2 kit brought over you as well. Anything other an a dead stop and you would get owned. I used to own an AWD eagle talon and shit I would kill from a light would walk me from 60+. Thats da truth!
its because they are so fuckin light weight... my cobra has 320 hp, my buddys SS camaro has about 360 and the SRT4's only pack about 230 at the wheels but they are like 1200 pounds lighter then the SVT and the SS. i dont care too much for Mopar but Dodge got it right with the SRT4
First of all, i never said anything about what numbers the SRT4 puts down. But you, my friend, are wrong. The SRT4 has about 230hp AT THE CRANK, NOT AT THE WHEELS. They are NOT fast stock! Get over it! An SS Camaro probably has AT LEAST 100whp more than a stock SRT4.
and the SS weights almost 1000lbs more... Ive seen SRT4s beat SS's. Both stock. More than once.. Its very close though.. mostly driver.. theyre just about dead even until 120plus then the SRT puts a car or less.. ss's are quick.
I've personally raced both lt1 and ls1, lt1 stock wasn't even close ls1 pulled on me after about 5 sec off the line. Both Cars are good in their own way
dropped05redsrt4 2 months ago
A potato was used to film this video.
DubstepIsTheShit 6 months ago
O.K. what mods on the srt? i have a 93 LT1 formula I/E CHIP 160 STAT 3.73's and have yet to lose to a STOCK skittle(i'm 54 and keep my bird running like the day i picked it up)i know alot of people come up against old abused LT1's.
use2slam2 10 months ago
checkout my stock lt1 vs a bolt on srt mariol1990 is the user name
mylilpony71 1 year ago
Just a little message to explain to the dumbfuck srt-4 haters on youtube.
Due to the boost on an srt-4 it is tuned to were the tq is around the hp range, making the srt-4 superior from rolls, beating v8 cars, often 300-350hp from rolls. From a stop, the ws6 would have lit the srt-4 up. A stock srt-4 is spiking 14lbs of boost, if you mod it with a 150$ wastegate, then you can up the boost to about 22 with everything else stock, making the srt-4 around 300hp, beating even more things.
BryanLovesDub 1 year ago
@BryanLovesDub ...not sure what the hell was up here in this race but it claimed both cars where stock...now i do find it somewhat hard to believe a stock SRT4 took a stock LS1 F body car...thats an easy 5-6 car difference in them cars at the drag strip in stock form...dono tho..maybe it was a fucked up LS1 or it needed the best mod of all..driver mod..hell if i know..just does'nt make sense..LS1 F body's have ran as fast as 12.8's STOCk with good drivers of course..i know a SRT4 stock cant
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@ilovechevy1 heres how i know this though. i owned a 2001 camaro z28 ls1, 6 speed with full exhaust and intake. Me being a good driver, still lost to an srt4 from a roll. he claimed he was stock, and i did alot of research when i got home. stock srt4's can beat ls1 f bodies from a ROLL. me being one case. off the line. yes you are right the quarter mile time is different, because it's fwd with less power. rolls however have different factors in them. srt4's are great from rolls.
BryanLovesDub 9 months ago
@BryanLovesDub ..this is very interesting...believe me when i say i'm not saying you are wrong..but if you are right...it makes me wonder yah know...i have no beef with an SRT4..but i have seen many a turbo 4 cyl of all types such as STi's and EVO's and modded turbo civics loose in all types of races to an F body ( LS1) ..the EVO's and STI's with thier AWD will trounce a stock F body off the line at the track then the LS1 power will make you blow by them around the 8th mile...kinda like a roll?
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@ilovechevy1 and yes. i've seen sti's lose to srt4's by car links. as well as evo's. this i have to explain more in depth though. if you look at a stock srt'4's dyno sheet. they have more hp than torque. being that they boost so high, their torque peak is like 5k rpm's? sounds funky right? evos and sti's are way lower. the torque at this rpm causes them to be really really fast at high rpms. lets say you hve side by side evo and srt4, 40 roll. The srt peaks its torque when the evo peaks his hp.
BryanLovesDub 9 months ago
its called BOOOOOOOOST people...
6cyltuner 1 year ago
i think the srt 4 stock runs a 14 something in the 1/4 mile so does a ws6 stock i have one lol
Greeneyeddevl 1 year ago
@Greeneyeddevl you run 14's in your ws6? just go ahead and tell everyone how bad you suck at life while you're at it. My WS6 hit 13.1 BONE STOCK, ran 12.6 with only lid and exhaust.
cozzey05 10 months ago
@cozzey05 yeah im sure it did assjack
Greeneyeddevl 10 months ago
@Greeneyeddevl im just saying, ive never seen a ws6 run as slow as 14s in the 1/4. you must have been pulling a 2.5 60ft. several guys have managed 12s bone stock trapping 110. maybe your ws6 is in desperate need of a driver mod...fucking idiot
cozzey05 10 months ago
@Greeneyeddevl mkay
Greeneyeddevl 10 months ago
wow can the v8 owners cry a little less and just let it go?? it's a drivers race either way. you're precious t/a isn't invincible.
srtallday 1 year ago
too much jealousy going on in here,,,,it;s just too sad ;-(
DaSuntRoman 1 year ago
All these jealous kids can't face the fact that fireturds and all other V8s garbage is obsolete and outdated. Sorry a turbo 4 cylinder sedan can piss on your compensation V8 because your dick's the size of a tic-tac.
3njoi1t 1 year ago
i wanna know how the fuck does a high-mid 13 sec car pulled by a car on a low 13-high12 sec car??????
GT5Player 1 year ago
neons are so light that they pratically glide
JORDAN1840 1 year ago
WS6>SRTurd
mastaajbomb 1 year ago
a stock srt4 will definately not pull a car on a ws6 i know i have driven several of both cars if you wanna put money on it im your guy
twitch92191 1 year ago
would not want to race on these cracked up streets,......
demariojason 1 year ago
you know what name the time and place and ill run you in my Trans Am with my LT1 and you can run your little SRT4 and we will see who wins hell we can do it for pinks if your man enough
James551991 1 year ago
sounds like a lt1 to me
ford4point0 1 year ago
In my MOSTLY stock WS6(CAI, ported and polished throttle body), I had 4 car lengths on an SRT-4 after a 30 mph roll in 2nd. What year was the WS6?
IronwolfWS6 1 year ago
@IronwolfWS6 dreams
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@FiBTL18 No dreams, just reality
IronwolfWS6 1 year ago
@IronwolfWS6 yes for me but based on your comment not for you it seems
FiBTL18 1 year ago
I find it shocking that the race was that close. I have raced many SRT-4's. The stock ones I put 3 or 4 car lengths on. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I wasn't there but I'm still puzzled the Trans Am lost.
recniabsal 1 year ago
@recniabsal rofl
FiBTL18 1 year ago
LOL a SRT pulling a WS6 thats gonna happen.......
MisterIcey09 1 year ago
@MisterIcey09 it just did get over it
FiBTL18 1 year ago
power to weight FTW!!
ThePacMan8u 1 year ago
You are a fucking moron lmao, listen at 0:02...that is not stock exhaust, and there is no way a stock srt4 could keep up with a ws6, unless the guy driving has parkinsons.
papaown 1 year ago
@papaown lol your funny snap back to reality it just did happen
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@FiBTL18
Snap back to reality? Learn a thing or 2 about cars, there's no way in hell an srt4 could beat a ws6 unless the driver was extremely bad. And it's "you're" funny, not "your" funny.
papaown 1 year ago
@papaown lol ok kid calm down, take your own advice, every single mod i have ever had done to any of my cars was done in my own garage with my own two hands not to mention 2 years of college for my ASE certs that i got years and years ago, i think it would be you that needs to learn a few things about cars, and "your" a douche so stfu
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@papaown one thing i forgot to add, there are plenty of vids of stock srt4s walking modded and stock ws6 and i have walked them many different times myself in my srt4 back when it was bone stock it happens just get over it man i mean shit its happening in this video right here, but im sure since your a ws6 fan boy you just can't bring yourself to believe a fact oh well like i said just keep on dreaming :)
FiBTL18 1 year ago
bullshit no way the the srt pulled harder stock. i race a turbo 350 bootsting 18 psi and i dont even have a ws6
talltwin19 1 year ago
do it from a dig. that race was set up for the srt4. turbo cars love to race from a roll because the turbo is pre spooled up. from a dig that trans am would have beat him by prob 2 cars
carklub 1 year ago
How the hell does a shit srt-4 beat a ws6? I find this hard to believe. Or the drive just sucks.
anime891 1 year ago
srt4 230hp 250tq and ws6 = 310hp 340tq hmmmm find it very hard to believe a stock srt4 pulled harder than a ws6
GreenGT09 1 year ago
@GreenGT09 It was magic......or the weight diff I don't know what is Physics?
JeremySRT 1 year ago 6
@JeremySRT orrr the SRT is just faster than that overweight scrap of a car. Either way both are stock both are still slow.. Boost FTW tho!
ksteezy69 1 year ago
@JeremySRT that and the srt4's hp is underrated from the factory
slingblade1991 9 months ago
@GreenGT09 LS1's are underrated...most put down about 310 to the wheels. I never lost to a stock SRT4 when my WS6 was stock, especially on top end.
cozzey05 1 year ago
@cozzey05 srt4s are under rated
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@GreenGT09 dodge under rated the hp on stock srts its really 240whp about 275crank hp and the srt is lighter which means 240hp will do more then the heavy ass ws6 can do with 330 which breaks down to about 285-280 whp for the ws6
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@FiBTL18 and to add to that AEM did a dyno on a bone stock srt stage 0 and it put down 275whp
FiBTL18 1 year ago
@GreenGT09 NERD
cantbeatjoey 1 year ago
@GreenGT09 im gonna have to agree with you i mean 35 roll is clutch for any 4th gen fbody
1994CorvetteC4 10 months ago
14.2 for stock srt fast but come on. i like them but they won't beat my trans am. All I have done is an exhaust system and some better tires and I'm sitting at consistent 12.8 on quarter mile and racing on a dig is a bad idea against a ta even an ls1 which has more high end power. Happy Ricing :)
DEVINJWILKINS 2 years ago
lol too bad a TA stock will pull 13.2 quarter mile and that this entire video is shit and is a setup between two friends. I have raced modded srt-s in my basically stock TA and smoked them with more than a couple car lengths. Stop being dicklovers. nothing against ricers but keep it real. Unless there was a 2 yr old driving the "ta" of course.
DEVINJWILKINS 2 years ago
im sorry but stock vs stock fro a dig or a roll start the ws6 shoulda won. my ws6 isnt stock but when it was im sure it would have taken that srt ate it then shit it out. but thats just because i know how to drive.
thisismeson 2 years ago
no way an srt4 can beat a ws6 unless it has a shitty driver period.
peepeeskillz 2 years ago 5
srt4s are roll racing beast but from a dig they just cant get off the line that good. if they can get it off the line they would b alot better. but that ws6 shouldnt have lost tho must have a weak clutch or the srt got the jump form the get go cuz the ws6s run like a 13.3 out of the box from factory
02lb72500HD 2 years ago 3
lol that was prolly a v6 firebird......
Nascarlee 2 years ago 5
srt maybe stock but they still could have tuened up the turbo both stock that ws6 would take it
m3talman774 2 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz4 door ugly crap give back to your fing granma she needs her car back My receipe for dog ass sr what ever you calle em is 96 z28 convertible lightened to 3300 lbs and then a lt 4 all stock except headers and exhaust and injectors and a gm cam 847
zr1zora 2 years ago
Sounds like a fast door stop. Good job. Oh and my Grandma bought a Caliber after she gave me her Neon so she doesn't need it back. Thanks for the comment though!!! You added a lot.
JeremySRT 2 years ago 3
@JeremySRT haha that was a good one towards the raatard zr1zora lol there just jealous that srt-4's are beast i have a 2004 srt4 with 305 hp to the wheels
923nicky 1 year ago
first off roll racing is gay..
second srts are roll racing machines.. buddy has one that cant get out of the 14s but will roll up a consistant high 13 sec car from a roll..
really shows ignorance when you are talking about how the t/a would shit on the srt4 all day, when in fact this video shows that it isnt true.. im sorry that the srt4 just walked the all mighty ls1.. maybe you should stop nut swinging off of it and open your eyes..
mikemahaney89 2 years ago
a ws6 shits all over an srt4 all day dog-o-matic or not.
richerstanger 2 years ago 3
Yeah or the SRT4 is modded. I raced an SRT4 wiht my 2002 T/A and beat it by like 4 car lengths. Or the T/A has a bad clutch, needs a tube up, somethin. Or the kid needs me to drive it.
recniabsal 2 years ago 3
sumthing had to be wrong with that ws6 or the driver was retarded
VTEC4LYFEGunny 2 years ago 9
That WS6 needs a driver mod.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago 9
preach on brother lol
metalskotty 2 years ago
I also have videos of my V6 Camaro beating a stock Lotus Elise!.
vfIskullangel 2 years ago 3
WTF was the camara man driving a golf car LOL
samadafish 2 years ago
what is this ?
biggilles69 2 years ago
It was an auto and we did race from a dig I just dont have a vid of it. He took me by one car from a dig. We were just out fuckin around and bored so we decided to do a few runs.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
***assuming it is a t56... otherwise i have no respect for his automatic driving ass
Braaap250r 3 years ago
garbage race. t56 comes out of first @ 50. so this cat probably started in second. howcome you tuner pussies wont ever go from dig... even you sti queers wont.
-LS1diehard
Braaap250r 3 years ago
I'll go from a dig anyday, I lauch with anti-lag @ 20 psi, and I'm awd. Please....
97GSXboostin 2 years ago
do you know how fast my car would be with 20psi? please yourself homo
Braaap250r 2 years ago 3
I launch at 20 psi, I run a lot more boost than that smart guy. Also, please strap on a turbo and see how long it will run on your car before blowing at 20 psi, get a clue. I'm not going to get into an argument with you over cars on the internet, I have more of a life than that.
97GSXboostin 2 years ago
yourcar=gay
can't help but laugh when i see one. enjoy this life you talk about, with your girly car...
Braaap250r 2 years ago 2
and check out my vid if you get the chance
Braaap250r 2 years ago
I saw your stupid vid of you power braking your car, big whoop, my old jeep can do that. I'm awd and I can spin all four tires, AND it's only a little 4cylinder 2.0 motor. Anyway, your car looks nice, I respect that. I don't hate you or your car because it comes from a different company, that would be pure ignorance. I hope you can appreciate that I make over 400 whp even if it isn't a v8.
97GSXboostin 2 years ago
its not the car PEOPLE!!!!!!!
its the driver =P get it straight the driver makes the car
xXboredWS6Xx 3 years ago
Wow, two cars that both trap around 103mph in the 1/4 and it's a driver's race from a roll... who'da thunkit?
SRT got the jump, and it's a close enough race that the WS6 had to play catch-up the whole time, that's pretty much al I saw. Yes a stock WS6 *should* be faster than a stock SRT-4, but not by a very large margin folks, get over it.
Wenis24 3 years ago
All differences aside, anything can happen on the street. Rite? I own a WS6 and Id be very very impressed if a stock SRT4 beat me. And to be honest, i really wouldnt mind getting one as a daily driver seeing as they seem to be very reliable lil cars?
SHODUUP 3 years ago 2
how come in every video i watch the camera car cant really keep up
MISTAMARSHALL1 3 years ago
Yeah Colestrain96z28 I think you're right that SRT-4 did not even sound stock at the beginning of the vid when they were pulling out.
GMMGJethot 3 years ago
Sorry both of the cars are stock. It was a good spot for the SRT4 which is why I got the jump but the gap never closed.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
yeah i'm throwin' the B.S. flag on this. That SRT4 is either moded or the WS6 guy was sleeping:D
ColeTrains96Z28 3 years ago
How did that T/A loose to a supposedly "Stock SRT-4" WTF? that T/A shoulda beat him by at least a car and a half even if it was auto.
GMMGJethot 3 years ago
Ok sure, it won this time. Probably got the launch on the automatic LS1 with two fat chicks in the back seat and the A/C on. All im saying here folks, a stock LS1 is faster then a Stock SRT4 No matter what. Stock for stock, when you put them on paper it is faster. RWD vs. FWD, with half the torque. Stock for Stock, the LS1 is quicker. Agreed?
SHODUUP 3 years ago
In perfect conditions the ls1 is faster....but that DOES NOT mean it can't be beat by an SRT-4. That is the only reason I even posted this crappy vid.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
Half the torque? An 04 or 05 SRT-4 puts down 250 lb-ft of torque to the wheels stock. Not to mention that an SRT-4 makes max torque all the way from 2200 rpm to over 5000, and weighs 2900lbs. I'm not saying that a stock SRT-4 is faster than a WS6, but from a roll it's not a bad race. On the highway the SRT runs like a low 13-second car, it's the launch that kills it in the 1/4 mile times.
hartsickdisciple 3 years ago 4
thank you for that well stated fact and 1g can add over a 100 w/ a srt-4
josh08336 3 years ago
Agreed, I call Shananagins
metalgtp 3 years ago
anything happens on the street I love all this e-thuggin goin around lol
mrkaocf 3 years ago
If you guys seriously think that a stock SRT4 Neon will beat a stock WS6 at any speed (roll, dog, reverse, uphill, downhill, sideways) You really need some help. Has anyone of you been in a stock LS1 and seen the way it pulls up top? It is not uncommon for a LS1 with intake and exhaust to break into the high 12s with a capable driver...
SHODUUP 3 years ago 4
Are you blind or just stupid? The SRT-4 won. It was stock without intake or exhaust too so guess it was not a high 12s car.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
why do people not edit videos, 1 minute of driving around. lame
txskin666 3 years ago
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. I've seen stock ls1's run anywhere from 13.2 to 14.5. My srt stock ran 13.7. This IS possible.
SMS69 3 years ago
To a point. If you are a very bad driver it's hard to drive an ls1 into a 14 honestly. You have to be a bad driver to do that. ANd at a roll I don't think it's slow. I'm not sure when boost spools up in the srt but Honestly from a roll NA > Boost All day. Unless your boost launching at like 30 lol.. And I don't think his brakes are even pressd. The srt4 is rated to run a 14.1 the ls1 ws6 is rated to rn a 13.5. So I guess it depends. Honestly I think the ws6 would take it stock vs stock everytime
ct0386 3 years ago
I'll agree that it takes a bad driver to run 14's in a LS1 car. But how bad can you screw up a roll race in an auto? The boost comes on quick with the stock turbo. Sure the srt may be rated at 14.1, but the factory or magazine times are almost always slower than the real world. I agree it should be close in threory, but the lighter weight and a quick spooling turbo on the srt makes it a strong runner. Too bad it cant get out of the hole due to sucky fwd.
SMS69 3 years ago
hey it happens...my brother has a 50trim swapped 05 acr with ALL the fuel goodies,full boltons and tuned he can hang right with me from a roll and i make 416/410 with a T2 cammed 01WS6 M6 car with stock rear end....the dig race, welllll thats a diff story, unless he's sportin the hoosiers...
nvrlift13 3 years ago
lol at the psyched guy
kai996 3 years ago
Thanks for the ISOC love 71ValiantSRT4!!! hahaha
JeremySRT 3 years ago
So that makes it even more plausible that the SRT would pull away.
71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
LOL. You ass. Nevermind. You DO have the sunroof.
71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
You dont have a sunroof or the kicker system then.
71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
My SRT bone stock weighed 2880..
FlameRed04 3 years ago
The WS6 would eventually pull around the SRT due to the high winding LSx motor. This has been proven time and time again. But from a ROLL....The SRT will win.Stand still, a different story. And I've owned both fwd and rwd cars. So I'm speaking from experience. Get over it, quit your bitching. There will ALWAYS be someone faster.
71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
LOL. Stock for stock quarter mile times are .5 secs apart. NOW, figure the weight difference on a roll race. 533 lbs, granted thats not a whole lot, BUT it's a big difference on the get up and go part. The SRT will pull EVERYTIME. It's sheer physics.
The power to weight ratio is in the SRT's favor. 230 hp to the wheels @ 2984 lbs.
The WS6 is making 300 hp to the wheels @ 3157 lbs.
71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
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71ValiantSRT4 3 years ago
Ok first of all get something better to tape the race with whatever your in is slow... Second I drive a 00 LS1 Camaro with an auto tranny thats pretty much stock an I would race any SRT neon anytime my buddie had a slow mustang an walked all over a not so stock neon an I'll take down any all motor mustang with my mods so how bout i race your neon... an KfCOrBust knows what he's talkin about cuz he's an Ls1tech member like me an we know stok LS1>SRT neon 7 days a week
thedeeche 3 years ago
Have you ever heard of punctuation? Secondly, just because your boyfriend here is a member of LS1Tech does NOT mean he knows what he is talking about.
SMS69 3 years ago
Maybe you should find better drivers in the SRT4. I have yet to be pulled by a T/A. I have only raced one modded one but he miss shifted everytime. Still walked his ass though. I LOVE the ls1 but hate what they put it in. Maybe that is why GM stopped making them.....
JeremySRT 3 years ago
Nah dude, SRT4s are shit slow from the factory. I shit on them in my old Mazdaspeed6 with and my car would get walked easily by an LS1 F body. Either these cars weren't stock as advertised, bad driver, poorly running car...etc. LS1 > SRT4 stock for stock.
KFCOrBust 3 years ago
If I EVER got pulled by a stock mazdaspeed 6 I would sell my car the next day. First of all they make less power than an SRT-4 and they are a lot bigger car. I wish there were less people that race on the internet and more that actually race. Then maybe they would actually believe something they SEE...not just what it says on paper.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
And you're a fucking idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. Last time I checked a Speed6 makes 274hp/280tq and the SRT4 made what, 230hp/250tq? Speed6 has superior gearing with the 6 speed and it's just no chance from a dig. I raced a couple stock-ish SRT4s when I had my Speed6 and I beat them both easily. I didn't truly believe they were as slow as the were until I test drove one. Then I realized the full failure that is the SRT4 Neon.
KFCOrBust 3 years ago
Theres no way,unless the TA driver was granny shifting it.I know SRT4s are quick,but WS6s do 0-60 in about a second quicker,and 1/4 in about a sec quicker.its a 100 hp difference,and WS 6s arent THAT much heavier than a SRT4.
rockerdude29 3 years ago
Except it was from a roll. The physics of a launch and FWD VS RWD get taken completely out of the equation. It's a totally different race from a roll
jmtyndall 3 years ago
E-Town Concrete.
petemouse 3 years ago
WOW nice video. Too bad your piece of shit fucking car couldn't keep up to watch the race. Next time leave your momma's Buick at home dipshit.
tackz71 3 years ago
i hope you guys dont pay taxes. those roads are terrible.
Braaap250r 3 years ago 3
Stock? SRT is 14, the TA is 13. The firebird needs a better driver. We didn't need to see your ugly face. ty
apexak 3 years ago
Well the SRT-4 won.....the end. Guess that T/A isn't a low 13 sec car or, maybe my SRT can run low 12s stock? I mean if every T/A runs low 13s?? But...this is from a roll so that low 13 doesn't really mean anything. Both cars trap around the same mph.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
the top end of an ls1 would be to much. I dont hate on turbo cars...I own one myself...I just know a stock LS1 is gunna beat an srt-4...Not enbarass it...just beat it
mikeisgod520 3 years ago
race from a dig and see wut happens to that srt4..and yes the srt is a 14 sec car and the TA is a low 13 sec car..i agree the srt is a fast car but not faster than a TA..yes it lost here but racing from a roll is the only way an srt will take a TA..Race from a dig next time!
FirebirdBuco 3 years ago
i own a ws6 i shit on srt4's without trying
put a new driver in the th T/A
MrSekula 3 years ago
srt-4s arnt to be fucked with.. top end monsters they are.
joshblacker1 3 years ago
well said yoda.
zjt310 3 years ago 2
dude my fucking stock trans am ran a 13.5 non ram air. why do people have to be in denial. you get better gas mpg. Your parts are cheaper and you can walk into an srt 4 engine bay. I would smoke srt 4s back in the day when i couldn't driver for shit.
PeteDragoon 3 years ago
Some people must have factory freaks caus most F bodies I race end the same. As for a trans am being a low 13 sec car.....maybe on drag radials. Then again a friend of mine's SRT with bfg DRs and a WG spring ran a 13.3 thats a low 13 sec. car. Both cars have close to the same power but the neon weighs less. Oh and the WS6 is just a susp. package the car still has the same HP just weights more.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
They do run low 13's factory stock. Thats if your only looking at the LS1's. The 93-97 LT1 f-bodies are a bit slower.
joshnc101 3 years ago
what are you talking about? Stock TA runs low 13's all day...and close to the same power? what?! trans am rated 330 and neon 230...thats not even close...from a roll this race shouldnt be close stock for stock...neon is a 14 second car stock the TA low 13's.
mikeisgod520 3 years ago
Thats 230whp for the neon and 330 crank hp for the trans am. Dodge published whp numbers for insurance purposes. The trans am is a lot heavier, and if it was an auto it had gas saving 273 gears. Go kill yourself.
mister2fast2200 3 years ago
330 crank is about 280 to the wheels....you idiot..you know nothing about cars...i drive a tuner car stock cobalt ss turbo...same power as the srt (about)....and a trans am auto or stick would pull at least 5-10 lengths or so depending on driver b4 140....you are an idiot...die now please.
mikeisgod520 3 years ago
i thought it was a close race until about 1:15,
SRT4's suck cock cough cough
cpt09 3 years ago
I have an srt-4, and love it.. I have to say though, that a WS6, stock for stock, should pull away a little bit. It would be a decent race, but the trans am is faster. They have about 330hp at the crank, and do weigh more than our cars.. but that's a good 60hp advantage, and a good deal of torque too. With a good driver, a WS6 can run low 13's stock, I see it all the time at my local drag strip. All you have to do to an SRT4 to get low 13's would be tires, motor mounts, maybe WGA.
hartsickdisciple 3 years ago
um most people have a chase car that can at least keep up a little bit u fag
clevername209 3 years ago
Ummm...what the hell. When my Trans Am was stock (NOT WS6) I was raping SRT's all day...with bolt ons.
driftslave 3 years ago 2
that's gotta be one of the best public roads to race i've seen
doug1bite 3 years ago
That WS6 driver obviously didn't know what he was doing.. Those cars run low 13's all day long while SRT-4's run low 14's.
JeepXtreme4x4 3 years ago
FWD vs RWD
Ronsam2006 3 years ago
FWD vs. RWD = RWD WINS! well, thats how the formula is at least.
dodge69874 3 years ago
Yea from a dig...but rolls is a totally diff story
Ronsam2006 3 years ago
i guess. but i still prefer RWD. RWD 4 life.
dodge69874 3 years ago
Lol...I prefer AWD.
Ronsam2006 3 years ago
actually, i've never tried AWD. do u still get the same sick burnouts and donuts as the RWD? i'm pretty sure they accelerate faster since they get better traction, right?
dodge69874 3 years ago
LOL no you cant do burnouts...thats because you don't really need to. Well you can but not like you see on a RWD. They accelerate awesome...a good driver can get like 1.5 60ft times.
Ronsam2006 3 years ago
thats cool. but since there's always someone that faster, i'd rather have a car i can mess around in. well, im going to look up AWD burnouts.
dodge69874 3 years ago
im glad i could see the race, you guys suck!
onetrayday 3 years ago
The mopar stage 2 doesn't do a lot for the car by itself. If you pair it with an SST or E1 turbo then you can make a pretty quick sleeper. The SRT-4 is not the fastest car out there but it is quick enough for me. That ws6 beat me by one car from a dig. I have found that it is more driver than anything. I have beat cars I should not have beat and, I have messed up and got beat by cars I should have walked. I hate roll races but we were bored.
JeremySRT 3 years ago
please explain how a stock srt can beat your cobra or your friends ss when my sons ffriends stock srt gets beat by 2-2 1/2 cars by my 93 firebird formula and i have an LT1 under the hood with just k&n and a flowmaster
out back,as on previous posts i'm 51 so i'm not ragging on anyones car,but if i can take him and stock LS1'S take me by 2-3 cars,i just don't get it!!
use2slam2 3 years ago
you guys need to wake up, lol! my stage 2 wrx runs train on stage 2 srt4's all day, from a roll and ESPECIALLY from a dig. and i only have about 220-230whp.
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
I would NEVER own an SRT-4 but they put down 220-230whp stock dude. A stage 2 SRT weighs 400+ lbs less than you and would have whatever hp gains the stage 2 kit brought over you as well. Anything other an a dead stop and you would get owned. I used to own an AWD eagle talon and shit I would kill from a light would walk me from 60+. Thats da truth!
dsm2xtreme 3 years ago
You have to remember that the Mopar Stage 2 "upgrades" don't increase power nearly as much as what constitutes a Stage 2 Subaru.
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
fucking moron.. srt4 is the fastest stock car under 20k
redlinemikets 3 years ago
this is bullshit.. a stock WS6 would OWN a stock srt4.. no butts about it
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
actually no... the SRT4's are freaky fast... they smoke my Cobra, they smoke my buddys SS Camaro.
GT500beatsZo6 3 years ago
There's no fucking way a STOCK SRT4 is going to smoke any Cobra or SS Camaro. Those cars both have over 300whp STOCK.
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
its because they are so fuckin light weight... my cobra has 320 hp, my buddys SS camaro has about 360 and the SRT4's only pack about 230 at the wheels but they are like 1200 pounds lighter then the SVT and the SS. i dont care too much for Mopar but Dodge got it right with the SRT4
GT500beatsZo6 3 years ago
and by the way, i have seen an SRT4 beat a Viper... not stock of course but still.
GT500beatsZo6 3 years ago
they have 230 at the CRANK.
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
necro... WRONG. 231 FWHP. Stock SRT.
lanasa8 3 years ago
First of all, i never said anything about what numbers the SRT4 puts down. But you, my friend, are wrong. The SRT4 has about 230hp AT THE CRANK, NOT AT THE WHEELS. They are NOT fast stock! Get over it! An SS Camaro probably has AT LEAST 100whp more than a stock SRT4.
N3cr0n0mIV 3 years ago
and +1000 lbs. =-? ...stupido
bombardier420 3 years ago
its not just about horses....its also about weight...srt-4 has the better power to weight ratio
ThatxBoixTwitch 3 years ago 2
and the SS weights almost 1000lbs more... Ive seen SRT4s beat SS's. Both stock. More than once.. Its very close though.. mostly driver.. theyre just about dead even until 120plus then the SRT puts a car or less.. ss's are quick.
lanasa8 3 years ago
What a faggot camera man. Tool bag
keno7 4 years ago
yeah, seriously lol
GT500beatsZo6 3 years ago
yeah, seriously lol
GT500beatsZo6 3 years ago
damn kid! shave !
its2realj 4 years ago 2
What a waste of video....
dem74 4 years ago