David Irving Interview Part Two

[HateCrimePanda]

So Irving is "politically correct" now? Propbably tired from all thse arrests, an eccentric englishman, haha.

[rosstcorbett]

Hi Alan. Do you know David personally? How did you get an interview with him?

Love your history videos, by far my favourite Youtuber.

[alanheath]

@rosstcorbett Yes, I have known him for many years. This was one of my flats.

I am very happy to know that I am your favourite you tuber - thank you!

[rabsmiff]

A lot of Hitler's papers were burned on his orders, one of his final acts. If any document ever existed authorizing the mass murder of an entire race or religion, you can bet that it was kept under lock and key and was pretty near the top of his most important papers.....as such, it would certainly have been destroyed on his orders. Who the hell would want to leave proof of such an evil act lying around? Not even a madman like Hitler!

[alanheath]

@rabsmiff I doubt that he gave the order in writing as most things were not.  It seems to me that he only gave written orders to people he did not trust such as generals. Amongst his inner circle it was all spoken only.

[rabsmiff]

@alanheath fair point, Alan.

One of Hitler's final acts was to make sure a lot of his papers were destroyed, however.

Hitler never even visited any of his camps, so your theory sounds likely.

[NickVenture1]

I quote: Himmler is openly admiting "ausrotten" (extermination/uprooting) the jews in his Posen Speach, recorded and typed for lecture by allkind of VIP's (1943), and Goebbels is joking about extermination in front of the entire Sportpalast audience... all this D.Irving is explaining here himself... and still he wants to "shield" Hitler. "Bormann is hiding the truth"... etc.. Sorry, unbelievable. Himmler was for sure not killing jews without higher authorization. Hitler the only nice guy left??

[alanheath]

@NickVenture1 The words 'clutching' and 'straws' do spring to mind!

[NickVenture1]

@alanheath I immediatly checked the Goebbels speech on Youtube and it can be heard that Goebbels screams: "Ausro.. Ausschalten muessen". But nobody in the audience is laughing. I wonder where D.I. saw laughters. Still Goebbels is saying that "only" as a threat for a possible consequent punishment.. in case that.. than.. I wonder why such studied historians"ignore"Himmlers final transactions with the jews which went 100% against Hitlers will and got sentenced to death for it. He was affraid of AH

[NickVenture1]

@NickVenture1 It is very interesting to see that D.I. considers the Posen Speach recording as an original and by doing so and even adding that HH made sign those who didn't attend that they got the "info" by reading the written protocoll.. that I can just feel even more comfortable to consider that HH was just trying to involve a maximum of persons so that later he won't be all by himself with this ugly "never to be mentionned Leaf of Honor".He is still complexed towards the real soldiers Iguess

[alanheath]

@NickVenture1 I see this in two ways. At the time of the Poznań speech, the Bug camps were being closed down. So Himmler could claim success there. At the same time the Soviets were advancing, they had just recaptured Kiev, Italy was out and the writing was on the wall. So therefore he needs to blame everyone else too.

Yes, I agree with you, he does not like playing soldiers any more.

[NickVenture1]

@NickVenture1 Maybe this Attempt of trying to Save Hitlers reputation as an isolated ignorant tea sipping Boss in the clouds, by blaming Bormann and Himmler for the dirty back door extermination job, shows that at least D.I. is not a real nazi. He just cannot live with the real AH and he is unable to understand the way A.H. and the REAL jew hating nazis functionned They thought at least like HH in his Posen speech. In fact poor Adolf needs D.I. to save him from Himmler,Bormann,Ohlendorf etc..

[alanheath]

@NickVenture1 Himmler had two brothers, he was the middle child. The eldest survived until the 1970s and described Heinrich as a coward. This comes out at various moments, not the least in his intial refusal to do a deal with the west (if possible) and then attempts to do a deal as the least brave of all the options.

I think the laughter may have been some off camera tittering but I don't know.

[NickVenture1]

@alanheath Still 1 thing: D.I.explains that Himmler does NOT mention Hitler as higher instance in the Posen Speech. But in fact Himmler mentions the "hard job" they had to do in 1934 against "comrades" whom they had to shoot. (put against the wall). And that since they had not talked about that hard mission.. This IS in fact Himmlers way to explain that AGAIN the SS has to do the hard+nasty job. And this is AGAIN of cause Hitler who is the highest instance without H.H. would never act.(same1934)

[qwertypoiu4321]

The Holocaust was a Nazi policy and Hitler knew about it.

Hitler, 1939-1-30:

"If international finance Jewry inside and outside of Europe should succeed once more in plunging nations into another world war, the consequence will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and thereby the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe."

[alanheath]

@qwertypoiu4321 and you can't get much clearer than that! Remember the date that was said too!

[awamoriwhiskey]

@alanheath

Rubbish. He said that would be "the consequence", not the plan.

Also, are you saying then that "Jewry inside and outside of Europe [succeeded] once more in plunging nations into another world war"?

[super2soyer]

At 0:10 he starts speaking German "Und"

[DancinJim]

Why did you not use a tripod when filming this? Must have been annoying having to hold the camera the whole time, and is quite annoying to watch too, seeing the shot shaking about regularly!

[alanheath]

@DancinJim I have not got a tripod.

[JimmySmers]

The popular media party line on this issue is that Bormann and Himmler didn't want Hitler's name connected to the Final Solution because the masses would find out. It doesn't make sense because under a controlled Nazi media how would the masses find out about it anyway?

[alanheath3]

@JimmySmers Hitler said often enough that he was not too keen on the Jews. He also publicly warned of their destruction. I think it is that Hitler did not give things in writing, in fact the National Socialist state, unlike the East German socialist state, broke its own laws and much was not given in writing.

To the best of my knowledge the murders were never once mentioned in any of the Nazi media (maybe during the 20 July 1944 trials).

[muskier]

Words and phrases that rhyme with one: (130 results)

1 syllable:

bruhn, brun, brunn, bun, bunn, byun, chun, chunn, done, donne, dun, dunn, dunne, fun, gruhn, grun, gun, gunn, hon, huhn, hun, hunn, jun, kuhne, kun, luhn, lun, lunn, mun, munn, none, nuhn, nun, nunn, pun, run, shun, son, spun, stun, sun, thrun, thun, ton, tonne, un, won, youn, yun

[muskier]

mr heath!

the word 'one' rhymes with 'fun'. learn to speak proper english.

[alanheath]

No it does not.

The word 'won' fhymes with 'fun'.

The word 'one' rhymes with 'con'.

[muskier]

no it doesn't. you R completely ignorant. look at the oxford english dictionary, look at any dictionary. listen to how irving pronounces. this proves that northerners are ignorant.

before u reply look at the dictionary pronunciation. ask irving if you want to list rhyming words. go to the rhyming dictionary online if u like. northerners R psycholigically blind. Ta!

[AgouraMo]

Hitler signed on to the T-4 programs and that turned out disastrously. There was a public uproar with many prominent/admired officials who could not be successfully imprisoned. Hitler would rarely sign to anything afterward. The T-4 program was the forerunner of the "Final Solution". "If operation T-4 had been entrusted to the SS things would have turned out differently because the SS knows how to follow orders without causing useless uproar among the people" - Himmler (Nazi Doctors-Lifton p-95)

[alanheath]

I don't agree with you on this. Hitler rarely signed anything and the T4 was an exception. One judge said it was illegal and demanded to see a written order from 'Justice' Minister Thierack. The response he got was that it was a Fuehrer order and that he as a judge should be able to tell it as such. The judge was dismissed.

T4 personnel were sent to the Bug river death camps from August 1941.

[AgouraMo]

I agree that Hitler rarely signed documents. The T-4 decree was written on his personal stationary. My understanding is that even less was signed by him after the program was officially ended but the program still continued for awhile. All I am saying is that the public feedback for the T-4 program only resulted in less accountability (Hitler) than before and for good reason.

[alanheath]

A long correspondence could follow. Effectively Hitler had no accountability but in early 1942 a decree was passed putting his will above all law eg to change penal sentences, to deny pensions etc..

The reason T4 ended was basically because it finished and victims were only killed individually after August 1941.

Thanks for commenting by the way!!

[AgouraMo]

Why did you interview Irving knowing his partisan views about Hitler?

[alanheath]

I would have interviewed Hitler if i had had the opportunity!

[AgouraMo]

You would have interviewed Hitler? knowing his was an Irving partisan. Just kidding

[manchesterblue]

Would it be too simplistic to suggest that the reasons why Hitler was never implicated by 'the big boys' were that a) they had been instructed not to and b) they were shit scared if they implicated him directly they would be shot? Irving talks about Boorman and how he shielded Hitler from knowing about certain things. Could it be closer to the truth that Hitler set the wheels in motion and expected them to get on with it while he played war games?

[alanheath]

I don't doubt that Bormann decided who got to see Hitler and thus had a major influence on policy. Those responsible were dead - Goebbels, Himmler, Globocnik whilst others were pretending their lack of knowlege such as Speer, Goering etc.. Eichmann was pretty forthcoming although of course he was never in contact with Hitler.

Like any boss, Hitler gave the order, subordinates did what they were supposed to do, reporting back to him every so often.

[mc0558]

Quoting Mr. Justice Gray in his libel verdict,"Irving has for his own ideological reasons persistently and deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence;...for the same reasons he has portrayed Hitler in an unwarrantedly favourable light, principally in relation to his attitude towards and responsibility for the treatment of the Jews;...he is an active Holocaust denier; ...he is anti-Semitic and racist, and...he associates with right-wing extremists who promote neo-Nazism."

[TerrySleeper]

Irving manipulates and distorts documents; suppresses evidence that runs counter to his interpretations; mistranslates documents from the German; uses unreliable or discredited testimony when it suits his purpose; falsifies historical statistics; applies one standard of criticism to sources which undermine his views and another to those which support them.

He cannot subordinate his Fascist politics to the demands of historical research.

He is a hopeless right-wing nutter - best left alone!

[ssalemi]

Sounds like the definition of an historian, to me! Or a journalist, or a politician, or a public relations man, or...

[oftalmologi]

Irving is my hero !

Best historian ever.

I would be honored to shake his hand.

[piesekreks]

He would not shake your hand! You are French! An inferior race! Your job is to serve the Aryan races, not to think you can go around shaking our hands, you smelly garlic eating, snail snorting beret wearer! Get in your place which is to serve your superiors!

[johnsmdm]

stop jew baiting..

[mc0558]

It has been decided in courts of law that Irving doesn't write HISTORY but appologies for the Hitlerite regime and that he is a holocause denier. You may be one too or worse still one who rejoices in the holocaust. Certainly there is something wierd about you.

[fairtradenow]

thank you for posting.

Would like it noted: I and many Irving supporters seek truth, that does not make us anti-semitic, some of my best friends are Jewish

[tuktukskagal]

Anyone who believes this shit is even more ignorant than him;the nazis were notorious for keeping meticulous records;arguewith THAT..slave labour?at least he admitted to that;the nasty bastard.

[akulaclass17]

SO many people were smited,including the follows of david.Tough shit its war.

88!

[BOGSAVAGE]

David Irving was suppose to speak in UCC a few weeks ago,but some ass holes made treats,and lecture was called off!! As far as I'm concerned whoever made such treats are the real fascists! I never even heard of this man until then,that's why I'm looking him up now!!!!FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOR EVER!!!!I know nothing about what happened from 39 to 45,as far as I can see he is not denying the mass murder of Jews,only debating details.Nobody ever knew a exact figure!!!All were only estimates I reckon!

[nmk9789]

Of course freedom of speech is a good thing, but whoever made the threats was also exercising freedom of speech - did you ever consider that? And of course the exact number of Jews killed in the Holocaust will probably never be known, which is why I wouldn't argue if someone said they thought it was 5 million or 7 million (as opposed to the accepted 6 million). But this idiot Irving says that only 600,000 were killed, which why I, and all decent, intelligent people have a problem with him.

[BOGSAVAGE]

Protesting is one thing,death threats are somthing totally different !!I would still rather listen to Irving instead of what ever dingbat made those threats!Just because you dont agree with sombodys opinion toes not give you the right to treaten sombodys life!HITLER DID THAT ALOT!If you think that a dislike of Irving gives you the right to stoop to HITLERS level you are as bad as he is!600k sound too small by any means,just remember the other tens of millions that died!!

[AeneasNYC]

How dare you nmk9789, say what "all decent people" think? The figure of 6 million is a gross exaggeration as everyone knows and was a Communist propaganda lie established in December 1944 by Ilya Ehrenburg and Vassily Grossman.

[zift18]

You seem so confident that Irvings figures are wrong. I wonder.....can you prove him wrong? Do you have even one piece of real historical documentation to counter him or is that just something you heard? It seems to me that "all decent, intelligent people" might not know exactly what in the hell they are talking about......just what they have been told without any facts to back it up!

[mc0558]

Irving is a fake! His case was argued fully in the court of law and that was the verdict.

[KingCreole74]

What exactly is fake in this specific interview? Irving does not deny the Holocuast in this interview even once, does he? If show, show me where.

[tuktukskagal]

If you don't know what happened from 39-45..read about it.try The Holocaust.A Jewish Tragedy.Martin Gilbert.There are thousands of books out there if you can be bothered to look;(never heard about this shit either;you said)doh.hitler had free speech.Ever heard of him?..And you re so arrogant..you RECKON?Just like the moron above.

[BOGSAVAGE]

what's your problem ass hole? One thing i do know about the Nazis is that they did not tolerate anybody that didn't agree with them THEY BUNGLED ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T AGREE INTO CAMPS ALONGSIDE THE JEWS!Arguing about the mass murder of Jews is the greatest load of cock! A estimated 50m people died in WW2,of that 6m were Jews,are the other 44m people only shit or what? What about the Russians,Poles etc. that died at hands of the Nazis,are they not worth remembering just because they are not jewish!

[nmk9789]

Whoa, there are a lot of stupid people in the world, and many of them have seemed to flock here comment on this video. Only a complete, utter idiot could believe that the Holocaust didn't happen or Hitler didn't know about it. Ever read Mein Kampf, Holocaust deniers? Hitler set down in that book what were later to become his policies. Hitler hated the Jews and there is no doubt in my mind that he ordered their genocide. You'd have to be a blithering idiot to think otherwise.

[alanheath]

Very good point. No doubt the denier liars claim that Mein Kampf is a Jewish fake.

[robnaro]

I've read Mein Kampf several times. Please tell me where Hitler talks about the Holocaust.

[goatandcart]

Very clear on killing Jews in Mein Kampf.

[JulesBonnot1979]

What does Irwing actually deny?

[alanheath]

He is still claiming no-one died in Krema 2 in Birkenau.

[JulesBonnot1979]

So hes not really denying the Holocaust as such just disagreeing over some of the details. DOes he say many people he thinks were killed.

[alanheath]

In the interview Irving in Krakow which was done for Russian television NTV he gives his numbers. which are more the less the same as I would say but he does this by transferring some of the Auschwitz dead to the Bug camps.

[Sinekyre14]

Democracy has killed the most people, then Communism, then Fashism. Hitler's Germany only killed 10% of those lives Communism claimed. This despite the fact that Nazism only killed during wartime, while Communism killed also when there was peace.

History is written by the victors. 88

[basem22]

History research should be everybodys duty. Abusing peoples opinion about the facts they came up with should be further investigated as to how they came to these conclusions. people that put these historians/fact finders down are small minded, easily lead sheep. i choose not to be part of the collective and look at 2 sides of an argument before concluding. u should also.

[TarantellaSerpentine]

Don't be lame! You know very well that people like you is very one-sided to pretty much everything in life. You belong to a collective, yes you do, the collective of nazi idiots who pretend to be tolerant of others ideas.

[bigox8]

People like me have decided for themselves the history of WW11 have you ever thought that maybe its YOU whos the idiot for believing everything your told by the victors, of course you havn't because your one sided, i'm not even a Nazi but you've called me that because i disagree sadly your reaction is typical of Britain today.

[basem22]

TarantellaSerpentine go dig up actual facts of the number that have died and then get back to me. I go off facts not myth, legends and magic like religion. I'm a scientist and bullshit doesnt cut it for me thanks.

[historicrecord]

Pablingat is the sort of wannabee neo-nazi scum that deniers like Irving appeal to.Its true that some of the worst war criminals like Eichman fled to S America supported by Peron.

[alanheath]

It is rather pathetic. So if Stalin kills more than that makes Hitler ok? And Mao Tse Tung may have killed more than Stalin so that makes Stalin ok. And so on and so on.

[PABLINGAT1972]

and by the way DRESDEN was an holocaust!

100.00 civiliand death without reason!!

[alanheath]

So there were 100,000 victims of Dresden now? It is a different number every week.

[KmaenLaiKwai]

they died because of Hitler.

[bigox8]

I agree with everything you've said, people don't like the debate about how many jews did really die WHY? its very easy to call people nazis and not have a debate about it thats why so many people avoid Mr Irving,"Irvings one of the worlds thorough researchers" BOARD OF DEPUTIES OF BRITISH JEWS, SECRET REPORT 1977

[alanheath]

What do you think people have been doing for the past sixty plus years. The question of the amount of deaths goes on contrary to denier liar claims that it is not permitted.

If the Board of Deputies issued a secret report, how come you know about it? Are you a member of the Board?

[bigox8]

No im not a member of the board David Irving himself has that sentence printed on the back of Hitlers War book, now i know your probably going to call him a liar because its so easy to say that, you have interviewed him so ask him how he knows about the secret report.

[alanheath]

It is not a secret if it is public knowledge.

[TarantellaSerpentine]

bigox8 is an idiot!

[Schwabe2869]

Who is listening to David Irving??? He is a widely discredited historian famous for his Holocaust denial and misrepresentation of historical evidence. He even served a prison sentence in Austria in 2006 for glorifying and identifying with the NSDAP.

[PABLINGAT1972]

has been discredited for the jews!.he has great comments for all his books from the 70s til 90s after 90s start the war against him.

why is he has been written since 70s and got great comments suddenly is a liar?

open your eyes,the jews own the media and got US working for them....

[SabuPtolemy]

Pablingat, cretins like you amuse me. You think 'the Jews owning the media' means that intelligent people making up their own mind based on the facts is no longer possible. Ironically, the only ones that parrot utter nonsense that has been PROVEN AS FALSE many times over are neo-Nazi losers like you whose irrational hatred for another race or plain ole ignorance prevents them from connecting the dots and arriving at even a semblance of truth. Sad and pathetic really.

[bigox8]

Why did the nazis control the media? because intelligent people DO believe what they read, terrible things did happen against the jews but come on they laid it on thick to get their own country now if anyone dares to question it your suddenly a nazi thats what sad and pathetic.

[SabuPtolemy]

Ox, look around on YouTube and watch all the horrific footage of dead and starving people taken during the liberation of the camps by the Allies and listen to the survivor accounts. Do you really think that after that unfathomable terror the Jews still had to 'lay it on thick' to get their own country (as if the existence of Israel is ever gonna make up for the industrialized murder of millions)? There was no need for exaggeration - the truth was way enough to boggle the collective mind!

[MarbleSphere]

Do you beleive everything that is sold to you on a tabloid paper, do you actually trust the entire media machine to feed your mind with real hard infomation. What Irving has done, wether through cunning or idiocy is show YOU and YOUR CLAMOURING GROUP OF IDIOTS that fascism has still got fertile soil to grow in by becoming arrested for speaking differently about the Holocaust. FASCISM IS ALIVE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU NOT IRVING. He can belive what ever the hell he likes, it is his choice.

[SabuPtolemy]

Very true, he can believe whatever he wants. I can also publicly call your mother an STD ridden whore but that doesn't make it so. Freedom of speech has its limits in my book - you don't yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theater unless it's actually on fire, and you also can't go around like Irving spreading lies and half truths about something as horrific and P.R.O.V.E.N. as the Holocaust. If that makes me a fascist - I'll gladly be a fascist.

[MarbleSphere]

"you don't yell 'Fire!' in a crowded theater".

You americans always find yourselves in this 'theatre' when youve run out of real conversation. Why cant you get your coat and leave? Why do you have to dominate every fucking thing in this free world upto and including moral authority on what is and isnt acceptable discussion? Could you tell me exactly what is so dangerous about this interview.

[MarbleSphere]

Dont Taze me bro!

[SabuPtolemy]

What exactly does Bush's failed foreign policy have to do with any of this? Are you stupid enough to believe Americans are in lock-step with this fool like the Germans were with Hitler? - It's not about dominating everything in the world but I personally am not gonna shut up when I hear a POS like Irving perpetuate BLATANT lies about the death of millions of people. That is an insult to humanity! This garbage needs to be nipped in the bud not passed on to yet another generation.

[MarbleSphere]

NO SabuPtolemy what are doing is brushing the subject under the carpet and sealing it with concrete. You donot have the intergrity to investigate, to ask questions which provoke reaction and like many Americans still live in disbelief regarding Pearl Harbour and Korea.That legacy will be passed on time and time again, until it becomes an unquestionable subject and all the mules can do is bare the burden and laugh.

Mc America will go down with idiots like you at the helm.

[SabuPtolemy]

What 'disbelief' re: Pearl Harbor or Korea? LOL I think you don't grasp the difference between asking pointed, important questions on a subject and doing what people like Irving are doing, which is trying to subvert the truth by twisting facts. Irving has an agenda and it is not truth seeking. And people like you fall for it, either because you're ignorant, a neo-Nazi, virulently anti-American or all of the above (at least 2 of the 3 seem to apply to you).

[alanheath]

I seem to be missing something.

Are we now to believe that Pearl Harbour did not happen?

[MarbleSphere]

Im forced to agree with you. It seems these childish frail immaginations your pitting yourself against have never once picked up the Orwell book 1984 and understood what drove the man to write specificly about the medias being a propoganda mill. He worked for the BBC sending out the god damn propoganda and wrote prolifcaly about the flow of infomation going in and out of the country.

[bigox8]

Here Here Irving dares to question the holocaust then suddenly everyone goes barmy and calls him a nazi its very blinkered that everybody accepts that 6 million jews died they don't want real history.

[TarantellaSerpentine]

You're an idiot! Irving dares nothing, he lies. It's a good thing he is broken.

[mejor25]

The problem is: WHER'S THE HITLER'S ORDER TO MASSIVE KILL JEWS? wHER'S THE ORDEN?

[alanheath]

Where is the order to do just about everything else in the Third Reich? Where is the order for the murder of the Allied prisoners who escaped from Sagan? Why did Himmler say that the murder of 30,000 Poles in Dzialdowo must be confirmed by Hitler?

Because Hitler gave orders orally.

[jolorulz]

Hitler made it clear that he didn't need to have anything written down for him. By invoking the Fuhrerprinzip, he could have ordered anything he wanted. Himmler pointed this out throughout the Einsatzgruppen sphere of control as for the well as the Commissar Order.

[brightonmod]

irving is a brilliant historian;he is pilloried because the truth does not conform to the propaganda;try and tell it or question it at your peril!!also he doesnt deny the holocaust just put a more realistic slant on it;

[luvpump1]

This guy made a huge mistake in telling the truth !!! Nothing more

[Ronald070]

It has really no use denying the historical fact that Nazi-Germany murdered millions of jews. It was Hilters own 'historical mission' to 'save the world from the jewish evil'. He announced the extermination of the European jews in 1939. The Holocaust was the ultimate consequence of Nazi anti-jewish policy. By denying its existence, one is denying the Third Reich, so to say.

[alanheath]

That is a good argument. I suppose the deniers will be denying the Third Reich next! I have asked deniers if they deny Germany existed or exists and have never got a straight answer to that question!

[AlexisMontan]

Ronald070 and all interested parties:Hitler never approved any mass slaughtering of the Jews, he particularly forbidden it, he did not want to make of them martyrs that they pretend to be today.Hitler REAL final solution was to take the Jews out of Europe, and there were THE ENGLISH who avoided that.

[alanheath]

What is your evidence that Hitler forbade it?

There is plenty of evidence that he was behind the mass murders including his Reichstag speech.

[Ronald070]

Aha, the interesting question about whether Hitler gave a direct order to exterminate the jews! Fact is that the German regime decided in 1941/42 to exterminate the jews within the realm of their power. See the surviving minutes of the Wannsee conference.

[alanheath]

In 1941 when local Nazis wanted to murder 30,000 Catholic Poles with typhus, Himmler told them that this order could only be given by Hitler.

So why should killing 200 times this amount not have come from Hitler? Himmler was too much of a coward to make this decision himself.

[historicrecord]

When the Church protested about the Euthenasia killings the nazis stopped it.The church was ambiguous as far as the Final solution was concerned and the Vatican was positively pro-nazi.

[alanheath]

Actually this is not quite true. The last euthansia killing took place in June 1945 (no typos there, yes June 45). It certainly slowed down after the summer of 1941 probably because they had killed just about everyone they intended to kill

[napoleonbone]

Goto David Irving visits Aushwitz to find proof of gas cmabers as discovered by DI...

5:07 "This is the site of the first gas chamber."

See? The revisionists plant the trees - and in time they cut them down themselves.

I mean talk about worthless. DI placing flowers at Auschwitz!

But thank you for locating the A gas chamber, we knew you'd come round in the end.

[Ronald070]

By the way, take a look at the Dutch website (also in English)'joodsmonument' There you can find the names, adresses etc. of the more than 100.000 jews that were deported from the Netherlands and killed in the camps. All the transport lists from Westerbork transit camp are still in the archives.

[AlexisMontan]

Perhaps it is a good time to take off the masks:Europe was antijewish in general,Hitler just acted out what all of them dreamed about.And by the way, Comrade Stalin killed much more Jews than the nazis did.I personally do not want anybody to be killed, but certainly I don`t like to have in my country people with two nations as the Jews are.They must go back to their Promised Land, in peace.

[alanheath]

Whereas Comrade Stalin certainly killed many hundreds of thousands of Jews, he did not kill millions.

[PABLINGAT1972]

dont give a shit about jews...stallin killed 40millons pople just in russia....were not jews,were humans.

fuck the jews!

[historicrecord]

So much hatred Pabling from someone with such a tiny brain !

[historicrecord]

Argentina isn't your land you colonised it from the natives.Argentine jews have as much right to live there as decendants of Spanish and Italian settlers.Hitler took antisemitism to Genocidal ends and succeeded in exterminating 80% of European Jewry.

[PABLINGAT1972]

you wrong ARGENTINA welcome Germans heroes and still respect them,they embrace our culture not like the jews to exploid it.

[alanheath]

What culture would that be? The destruction of the native population by the European settlers? Or the militaristic, imperialist approach that certain of your compatriots has to its neighbours?

[alanheath]

This is just the point. If they deny the mass murders of the Jews, they must be denying the third Reich. And going further they probably also deny that Germany exists, and probably also that Europe exists seeing as hardly any of them seem to have been here.

[abaiomy]

For what reason, should we the Europeans people keep indulging the official lies over the so called holocaust?

[alanheath]

What is this supposed to mean?

[abaiomy]

If we like the truth, we should have more braves like Irving.

[dojunmarn]

Wrong again, I am anti-Zionist. The Jews and Christians and anybody else that aligns themselves with them, I am against.

[alanheath]

But you have nothing against making up stories about what you claim happened in the past?

[dojunmarn]

Do the research people, it is all right here on the Internet. Take your brains off of Lost and American Idol for ten minutes and do some research. Thjis guy alanheath is obviously stupid as he can tap away here on this dumb ass blog and yet not type a simple could of questions into a Google search box.

[alanheath]

The person who is stupid is the person who makes things up or deliberately lies. It is not here on the internet. You are just an anti Semitic idiot.

[dojunmarn]

Actually I'm not. I've liked the Arabs and Muslims I've met. If you are referring to Jews as Semites, you are mistaken, most Jews in the world have no blood relation to Abraham, so they are are Semites. They are Russian/Khazar.

[alanheath]

OK then - anti Jewish.

[dojunmarn]

Just read up people. alanheath is a putz that is afraid to do some research for himself. There is plenty of historical evidence for everything I've mentioned. Don't take my word for it. Use this wonderful tool the Internet for the very thing it was invented for: RESEARCH.

[alanheath]

Research - you made it up. You claim that Germany offered to surrender in 1944 to the west but you cannot even give an approximate month or date. Nothing. You claim that Hitler was in power in 1932 - not true. You claim about a gift for the Bolsheviks of USD20m yet cannot substantiate. The usual anti Semitic trash.

[MonkeyMagic88]

Google this-> "Communist NKVD Jews Genocide Russia Ukraine" & now this -> "Jews Bush Administration"

"Oh there's no Jewish conspiracy" Innocent little lambs really.

[alanheath]

So there is a Jewish conspiracy? What does this conspiracy involve? Is it secret? How do you know about it? Have you told anyone you told me?

[dojunmarn]

Hitler would have defeated Communism in the 1940's if not for the treachury of England and the US.

[alanheath]

First of all Britain and the USA were not treacherous to Germany (although Britain was to Czechoslovakia). And in the second place Nazism was far worse than Communism, killed far more people.

[dojunmarn]

Incorrect boyo, Communism has killed far more people. 65 million after the Russian Revolution through Stalin. How many in Maoist China? Millions and millions. Khmer Rouge?

Truer to say that democracies have killed as many people as Communism.

[alanheath]

So where do your figures come from? You are claiming that 65m people were killed in the Soviet Union?? Source for this information?

If you take a total sum, yes communists killed more people. If you take a daily rate then the Nazis killed more people.

[dojunmarn]

20 million Ukrainians killed by Communist Jew butchers by the beginning of the 30's alone. My grandmother is my source who was there. What is your source? The Nazis did not devastate Europe. They took over Europe pretty damn quick with their blitzkriegs. Most of Europe surrndered quickly. It was the Allies that bombed their way back in that flattened most of Europe, especially Germany. We should have taken their surrender in 1944 and joined forces to beat the Soviets.

[alanheath]

Your grandmother counted 20 million bodies? How do you know they were Jews who did the killing? My source is the population figures for the Ukraine and the demographics. The Nazis did not devastate Europe - they almost completely destroyed the city I am in now. Germany did not surrender in 1944 unless of course you know better.

[dojunmarn]

They in fact tried to surrender to the Western Allies with the caveat that the Western Powers hold the Soviets at bay. Hitler was greeted with open arms in much of Europe, and it was due to the fear of Communism. The Bolshevic Revolution was sponsored by Warburg $20 million and most of the leadership was Jewish. Look it up.

[alanheath]

Where should I look this up? When did the Nazis try to surrender? What month? Who passed on this surrender?

When was this USD20m paid to the Bolsheviks? How was it paid? What bank made the transfer? Which account did it come from.

Some of the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish although there were more in the Memshevik leadership. The overwhelming bulk of these Jewish Bolsheviks were murdered by Stalin.

WW2 was started by a pact between Hitler and Stalin.

[dojunmarn]

Do the research yourself, that is what the Internet is for. I needn't argue and waste my time with you if you can do the legwork yourself, and you'll be the better man for it.

[alanheath]

Because it did not happen. You - or someone else - made it up.

There was no German offer of surrender in 1944, no suggesting of a pact against the USSR, the Nazis were not greeted with open arms anywhere but in parts of the USSR and no USD20m transfer to the Bolsheviks.

Either stick to analysis of historical fact or go somewhere else.

[dojunmarn]

Look it up on Google yourself and anyone else that bothers to follow this thread. You all have a LOT of reading to do.

[alanheath]

You made it up. It did not happen. You cannot say when it happened because it did not happen.

Try reeading David Irving's Hitler's War for example.

Unfortunately you are example of those that try to pervert history by lying about it for whatever reason.

[dojunmarn]

Hitler was protecting Germany and the rest of Europe from Communism and Jews. The International World Jewry declared war on Hitler and Germany in 1932. Boycotts, assassinations of German diplomats around Europe. The Jews had been destroying Europe for a very long time already. Zionism went public in 1895. Hitler did not lie about there being an International Jewish Conspiracy, or what they were up to. We are not told about that in historoy books.

[alanheath]

We are also not told about other things such as Germany offering to surrender to the allies in 1944, Warburg's USD20m gift to the Bolsheviks et al. because they did not happen. Hitler was not in power in 1932 and there is no international Jewish conspiracy unless you know something that no-one else does. Are all Jews in this conspiracy of yours or just some?

[seatoshiningsea]

Cimacio, not trying to resolve the guilt of Hitler...that's beyond telling...let's start from the guideline that we assume rationality from sensient human beings...Hitler had a major substance abuse problem with the "energy" boosters his doctors were giving him...Bormann and these major operators were the ones who cut him out as well as Rommel and the major elements of the officer corps after the July 20 conspiracy.

[alanheath]

One must remember though that Hitler was only effectively an addict in the latter part of the war.

[seatoshiningsea]

Irving is right on, thanks for the great scholarship--corroborates everything I have read. The Himmler, Bormann, Hersch rivalry shielded Hitler in his paranoid (amphetimine induced/totalitarian paranoia)from the agenda. It's a shame none could be tried at Nuremberg.

[alanheath]

I am not certain I understand. Who do you mean by Hersch? Perhaps you are confusing with Lammers?

[seatoshiningsea]

Apologies. Herschl (am I right?)--the SS leader who was asassinated in the future Czech Republic. Identified by Kaltenbrun the SS head of Mauthausen--the testimony is very telling...tell me about Lammers...

[alanheath]

Sorry, I am a bit lost now. Not Herschl for sure. Karl Hanke maybe. He was the gauleiter of Breslau (Wroclaw) and killed around 9 May by the Czech resistance. But he was not the head of Mauthausen.

Lammers was one of the three with Borman and Goebbels who effectively ran Germany from 1943 as Hitler was off playing war games - something he did not do very well.

[beatvampire]

hitler was an excellent dancer

[alanheath]

Also a wonderful painter... he could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon.. two coats...

[alanheath]

What the decision making process was is still not known but I would think that it was Hitler saying to Himmler or Bouhler or Muller and probably all of them - we can kill the physically and mentally challenged so why do we not kill the Jews as well. I believe this happened some time before May 1941 and the decision to build death camps occured before August 1941.

[cimacio]

Okay, so the 'big boys' in the Third Reich were all in the know about the Jews, yet the biggest boy of all - Hitler - was kept in the dark about the whole darned thing!? C'mon Dave, that's rubbish and you know it is! It just goes against all common sense and reason.

It's so strange: you could have been such a great historian, if only you hadn't thrown it all away because of this one custard-brained theory!!

[alanheath]

I must agree with you on this. Although no paper trail to Hitler exists, no trails exist for many other things as well. It is absurd to assume that Hitler did not know although in fairness to David Irving he does accept that Hitler was responsible as head of state.