@NicosMind Hes also right that theres far too much bureaucracy but wrong to think that more socialism is the cure. Thats one of the main reasons that we're broke!!
@Cena60793 Thers no price discovery in socialism, or to put it another way theres no way to make economic calculations in socialism.
The only reason why any socialist country has lasted any length of time is for two main reasons.
1. Let black markets develope and then copying the prices found there. Even North Korea, the worlds most totalitarian country has black markets, and the Russian black market was famous.
2. Copying prices of countries with price discovery ie capitalist countries
@Cena60793 And what are the evil parts of capitalism? Im guessing here youre gonna come off with corporatism or facism or mercantilism or something else like a cleptocracy but its not your fault. I didnt even know what capitalism was until a few years ago. Media along with the mis-education system has it so that next to no one knows what it is. Thank fuck for the internet!
@NicosMind CAPITALISM IS EVIL BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE RICH RICHER AND THE POOR POORER, CHEAP LABOUR WHILE THE BIG MEN AT THE TOP BASK IN THEIR WEALTH!!!
@Cena60793 Thats not capitalism thats mercantilism or one of the other systems that i mentioned. A cleptocracy fits it perfectly too.Capitalism is NOT about making money. Ill repeat its NOT about making money. Its about EQUAL competition and property rights. Its a class society where the poor can rise to the top and the top can lose everything. Not a caste society where everyone remains the same.Its about recognising property rights meaning no business or government can steal or poison your land
@Cena60793 No capitalism is not. Read Adam Smith, Mises or Rothbard.
And also think to yourself. Which country would you rather be homless in. The streets of America or the streets of North Korea? Countries that are more towards capitalism have the highest standard of living even amoungst the "poor". Countries that have gone towards capitalism like China & Russia have seen rising standards for everyone & countries that have gone towards socialism like the US have seen seen standsdramatic drop
@Cena60793 Thatcher was a corporatist. Theres a massive difference. Yet again youre attacking a different system. People keep complaining that Obama is a socialist. Hes not. Hes a facist. Facism is the merger of state and corporate power. His healthcare bill and attitude towards bankers is facist. The states have been sliding towards socialism for 40 years however. Facism and socialism are very simular. Heres a vid on the differences between mercantilism and capitalism watch?v=SYdJflb5ycA
@Cena60793 The definition of facism as stated by Mussolini is the merger of state and corporate power. Do you have any idea how much of American government is run by Goldman Sachs? What about the recent healthcare bill? When it passed the insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies etc rallied in the markets. The reason why they went up is cause they were expecting more profits not less. Not a streamling of the system at all but rather a wealth transfer. Goldman Sachs watch?v=F3AlFe8l4OE
@Cena60793 Heres a good vid of Ron Paul talking about BP and the dangers of government limiting the liability of rich companies like BP and then forcing the tax payers to take up the rest. watch?v=PExjCdezAlk
Btw all the vids ive mentioned are good. Also i noticed youve subscribed to Daniel Hannan. He kicks ass. You should subscribe to UKIPmeps for some great vids too.
this degenerate went to crown hills community college in leicester, teaching it to teenagers and due to being verbally abused numerous number of times, he decided to become an mp.. what does he know about england... he looks like the first brown bnp member... proud of our queen.. maybe during the cricket season he should stop supporting india and support england.. maybe then we will be proud of england! sood the dood with big boobs... leave labour you fat cunt!
This man is a joker - where were u all this while - rat hole ?
KeepBritainClean 1 year ago
At least he's honest. Gordon Brown is absolutly terrible but as an over all strategy saying this before an election is incredabley stupid.
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind Hes also right that theres far too much bureaucracy but wrong to think that more socialism is the cure. Thats one of the main reasons that we're broke!!
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind its coz people who have instated socialism haven't done it right
Cena60793 1 year ago
@Cena60793 Thers no price discovery in socialism, or to put it another way theres no way to make economic calculations in socialism.
The only reason why any socialist country has lasted any length of time is for two main reasons.
1. Let black markets develope and then copying the prices found there. Even North Korea, the worlds most totalitarian country has black markets, and the Russian black market was famous.
2. Copying prices of countries with price discovery ie capitalist countries
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind which is why socialism must mix its economic policies with the good all-round parts of capitalism, and not the evil parts
Cena60793 1 year ago
@Cena60793 And what are the evil parts of capitalism? Im guessing here youre gonna come off with corporatism or facism or mercantilism or something else like a cleptocracy but its not your fault. I didnt even know what capitalism was until a few years ago. Media along with the mis-education system has it so that next to no one knows what it is. Thank fuck for the internet!
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind CAPITALISM IS EVIL BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE RICH RICHER AND THE POOR POORER, CHEAP LABOUR WHILE THE BIG MEN AT THE TOP BASK IN THEIR WEALTH!!!
Cena60793 1 year ago
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NicosMind 1 year ago
@Cena60793 Thats not capitalism thats mercantilism or one of the other systems that i mentioned. A cleptocracy fits it perfectly too.Capitalism is NOT about making money. Ill repeat its NOT about making money. Its about EQUAL competition and property rights. Its a class society where the poor can rise to the top and the top can lose everything. Not a caste society where everyone remains the same.Its about recognising property rights meaning no business or government can steal or poison your land
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind its not about making money eh? Well look at the UK and USA, they're capitalist countries and the poor mainly suffer in these
Cena60793 1 year ago
@Cena60793 No capitalism is not. Read Adam Smith, Mises or Rothbard.
And also think to yourself. Which country would you rather be homless in. The streets of America or the streets of North Korea? Countries that are more towards capitalism have the highest standard of living even amoungst the "poor". Countries that have gone towards capitalism like China & Russia have seen rising standards for everyone & countries that have gone towards socialism like the US have seen seen standsdramatic drop
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind no, Thatcher was a hardcore capitalist, and look how bad the poor were off under her!
Cena60793 1 year ago
@Cena60793 Thatcher was a corporatist. Theres a massive difference. Yet again youre attacking a different system. People keep complaining that Obama is a socialist. Hes not. Hes a facist. Facism is the merger of state and corporate power. His healthcare bill and attitude towards bankers is facist. The states have been sliding towards socialism for 40 years however. Facism and socialism are very simular. Heres a vid on the differences between mercantilism and capitalism watch?v=SYdJflb5ycA
NicosMind 1 year ago
@NicosMind you fucking idiot!! Obama a fascist?? Fascists were dictators like Codreanu, Hitler and Stalin, not democracy like Obama,
Cena60793 1 year ago
@Cena60793 The definition of facism as stated by Mussolini is the merger of state and corporate power. Do you have any idea how much of American government is run by Goldman Sachs? What about the recent healthcare bill? When it passed the insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies etc rallied in the markets. The reason why they went up is cause they were expecting more profits not less. Not a streamling of the system at all but rather a wealth transfer. Goldman Sachs watch?v=F3AlFe8l4OE
NicosMind 1 year ago
@Cena60793 Heres a good vid of Ron Paul talking about BP and the dangers of government limiting the liability of rich companies like BP and then forcing the tax payers to take up the rest. watch?v=PExjCdezAlk
Btw all the vids ive mentioned are good. Also i noticed youve subscribed to Daniel Hannan. He kicks ass. You should subscribe to UKIPmeps for some great vids too.
NicosMind 1 year ago
this degenerate went to crown hills community college in leicester, teaching it to teenagers and due to being verbally abused numerous number of times, he decided to become an mp.. what does he know about england... he looks like the first brown bnp member... proud of our queen.. maybe during the cricket season he should stop supporting india and support england.. maybe then we will be proud of england! sood the dood with big boobs... leave labour you fat cunt!
sirmuhammadpatel 1 year ago
What a fuckwit.
queenbettina22 1 year ago