Ah, the rough SA training definitely explains the little bit of head tossing - he's not too bad with it at all until the end, when you're doing higher level stuff - hard stuff for a horse to do, too... But what is "brio"? Part of the gait? I love cruising sites to check out different breeds, so I really don't know much about Pasos, except they're neat little Spanish horses w/gait! :)
Interesting. Does termino cause eventual soundness issues? Looks hard on joints to swing all the time. The canter looks gloriously comfortable. My only criticism is the head tossing, reluctance to accept bit, & getting above bit - would not be looked at favorably in dressage competition or classical riding. I'd suggest experimenting with different bits - particularly snaffles at first. Nice to see gaited breeds attempting dressage work, though. It helps ALL horse maximize potential.
No, the termino itself does not cause a horse to go unsound. There are always 3 feet on the ground. The termino allows a soft landing and less concussion for both horse and rider. The foot lands even and straight forward. The termino should roll from the shoulder and upper leg. The actual soundness issues in this breed are from pasterns that dip too low and cause eventual tendon problems.
This horse has pretty good pasterns- tendons but does have a low heel-long toe. The head tossing comes from his brio and lack of foundation training. He was never finished in the bit and had some rough south american style training before I got him.
@QH1100 the Termino "motion" comes from the shoulder, not lower down in the leg. The most "damage" I have ever seen (on my own PP, who is 20 this year) from their Termino is that the toe wears a bit faster than on the average horse if you ride them on hard ground (ie...gravel roads). Personally, I'm using a Bitless, and he works just as well in that as in a bit.
I appreciate the challenge of dressage well-executed; this horse is well-trained in dressage, but without preserving his natural 4-beat, Paso Llano. Why not keep his unique gait while taking him to the highest level of dressage possible? The gait makes the Paso. BTW, once rode a dressage trained PP who kept in gait. What a pleasure!
I'm not sure what "without preserving his natural 4-beat" means. It is impossible to piaffe or passage a horse without some use of the square trot. This horse in particular was not gifted with the best 4-beat paso llano. I have worked on his gait since this video was created several years ago. I also compete this horse in endurance and find that part of the process allows him to use his "trot-y" gait for relaxation and for going over rough terrain.
I love this video! I have a Peruvian mare and do dressage (primarily on Arabs and Warmbloods), but I have started transitioning my mare into the basics. Thanks so much for posting this and showing the potential for the breed!
Pretty horse....but what is he doing with his front legs? They swing out like eggbeaters...I know very little about peruvians, is this part of their gait?
Thank you so much for clarifying! I have ridden rocky mountain horses, Tennessee walkers and icelandics, but none of them move like that! Very cool. I am looking for a breed that I can do dressage and trails with that would be good on my back...I was thinking rocky mountain, but what do you think of these guys?
Aren't peruvians great?? They are so smart and he's trying so hard! I love it. Good job. I worked on a peruvian breeding ranch years ago and have been waiting for the right time to finally purchase one...hopefully some day soon now.
Thank you for posting. He is doing some interesting things, dressage is a work in progress. Good luck with getting him relaxed, accepting the bit - never seen your bit used in dressage, stretching and using his back, keeping an even bend through circles/corners, and balanced relaxed changes of gait and direction. Dressage IS a work in progress. Remember to Breathe :)
Very impressive! =D I have a question though. I've noticed that alot of Peruvian Paso horses 'throw' their front legs to the side alot. I know it isn't harmful, but is it like normal for that breed to do so? Thnx
yes, it's normal for Peruvians to throw their feet to the side, it's called "termino" and is part of why their gait is so smooth. The foot fall concussion is reduced because the foot slides into place rather than pounds the ground.
Lovely horse, someone was trying to tell me today that the Peruvian Paso had a 5 beat gait. I laughed and said how is this possible they only have 4 legs?
They still insisted that Peruvian Pasos have a 5 beat gait.
Yes, they all do that; It's a characteristic of the breed and a main thing that separates them from the Paso Fino..I prefer the Paso Fino, but Peruvian Pasos are pretty too =]
Actually, it's not paddling. Paddling is an unsoundness in the knee, usually from a conformation defect, although it can also be caused by injury.
This motion is called Termino, and all Peruvians have it to some degree. Some of which are hardly noticable, but those horses don't seem to be as smooth.
Danzador is a gorgeous example of what you can do with a gaited horse & dressage training (when done right)
Bravo! I raise, breed and endurance gaited horses and I have no idea how you trained that horse to do that. I am absolutely impressed. We went to the rolex last year and I am at a loss as to the subject of dressage but when you throw in the fact that you are doing it on gaited, you get an A+ from me.
I love this horse!! well done!!
epicureo25 1 year ago
magnificent! thank you so much for sharing him with us! wishing you both continued success!
firecat6232 1 year ago
Ah, the rough SA training definitely explains the little bit of head tossing - he's not too bad with it at all until the end, when you're doing higher level stuff - hard stuff for a horse to do, too... But what is "brio"? Part of the gait? I love cruising sites to check out different breeds, so I really don't know much about Pasos, except they're neat little Spanish horses w/gait! :)
QH1100 1 year ago
Interesting. Does termino cause eventual soundness issues? Looks hard on joints to swing all the time. The canter looks gloriously comfortable. My only criticism is the head tossing, reluctance to accept bit, & getting above bit - would not be looked at favorably in dressage competition or classical riding. I'd suggest experimenting with different bits - particularly snaffles at first. Nice to see gaited breeds attempting dressage work, though. It helps ALL horse maximize potential.
QH1100 1 year ago
No, the termino itself does not cause a horse to go unsound. There are always 3 feet on the ground. The termino allows a soft landing and less concussion for both horse and rider. The foot lands even and straight forward. The termino should roll from the shoulder and upper leg. The actual soundness issues in this breed are from pasterns that dip too low and cause eventual tendon problems.
skyhorse 1 year ago
This horse has pretty good pasterns- tendons but does have a low heel-long toe. The head tossing comes from his brio and lack of foundation training. He was never finished in the bit and had some rough south american style training before I got him.
skyhorse 1 year ago
@QH1100 the Termino "motion" comes from the shoulder, not lower down in the leg. The most "damage" I have ever seen (on my own PP, who is 20 this year) from their Termino is that the toe wears a bit faster than on the average horse if you ride them on hard ground (ie...gravel roads). Personally, I'm using a Bitless, and he works just as well in that as in a bit.
araucano0 1 year ago
I can watch this video over and over....and I have!
mrDube 1 year ago
I lOVE PERUVIAN PASO
MrKriz2009 2 years ago
I appreciate the challenge of dressage well-executed; this horse is well-trained in dressage, but without preserving his natural 4-beat, Paso Llano. Why not keep his unique gait while taking him to the highest level of dressage possible? The gait makes the Paso. BTW, once rode a dressage trained PP who kept in gait. What a pleasure!
dgfdekf 2 years ago
I'm not sure what "without preserving his natural 4-beat" means. It is impossible to piaffe or passage a horse without some use of the square trot. This horse in particular was not gifted with the best 4-beat paso llano. I have worked on his gait since this video was created several years ago. I also compete this horse in endurance and find that part of the process allows him to use his "trot-y" gait for relaxation and for going over rough terrain.
skyhorse 2 years ago
I love this video! I have a Peruvian mare and do dressage (primarily on Arabs and Warmbloods), but I have started transitioning my mare into the basics. Thanks so much for posting this and showing the potential for the breed!
violiner2000 2 years ago
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ottopasquier 2 years ago
Is this the horse you did endurance on? How is your new horse doing?
devonshirejumper 2 years ago
what type of bit do you have?? I just got my 1st Perviuian..mare need tack! LOVE your horse great job
sielick 2 years ago
Beautiful!!!!!!
JULIOAD1 2 years ago
Pretty horse....but what is he doing with his front legs? They swing out like eggbeaters...I know very little about peruvians, is this part of their gait?
shortstuph123 2 years ago
that's called "termino" and is desired in the breed. It's part of what makes them so smooth. The way they set their feet down ...
skyhorse 2 years ago
Thank you so much for clarifying! I have ridden rocky mountain horses, Tennessee walkers and icelandics, but none of them move like that! Very cool. I am looking for a breed that I can do dressage and trails with that would be good on my back...I was thinking rocky mountain, but what do you think of these guys?
shortstuph123 2 years ago
Aren't peruvians great?? They are so smart and he's trying so hard! I love it. Good job. I worked on a peruvian breeding ranch years ago and have been waiting for the right time to finally purchase one...hopefully some day soon now.
michell2003 2 years ago
wow thats beautiful!!!
hunterjumpers223 3 years ago
Hey, what is this music?
bigbaythoroughbred 3 years ago
absolutely stunning!
mrDube 3 years ago
Love the piaffe / passage with termino! :-)
We used to have a Peruvian. Really lovely to ride! Very cool that you are doing dressage.
MegF142857 3 years ago
He is beautiful and has so much try.
Thank you for posting. He is doing some interesting things, dressage is a work in progress. Good luck with getting him relaxed, accepting the bit - never seen your bit used in dressage, stretching and using his back, keeping an even bend through circles/corners, and balanced relaxed changes of gait and direction. Dressage IS a work in progress. Remember to Breathe :)
fireweedak 3 years ago
loving its gait so much right now!
The legs look like rubber i love it!
I so want your horse!
JaypawWarriorsRox 3 years ago
Very impressive! =D I have a question though. I've noticed that alot of Peruvian Paso horses 'throw' their front legs to the side alot. I know it isn't harmful, but is it like normal for that breed to do so? Thnx
Liandrien 3 years ago
yes, it's normal for Peruvians to throw their feet to the side, it's called "termino" and is part of why their gait is so smooth. The foot fall concussion is reduced because the foot slides into place rather than pounds the ground.
skyhorse 3 years ago
Truly remarkable and very impressive to say the least.
A very lovely responsive horse.
Well done!!
sunkissedbeach 3 years ago
Wonderful! Could I train my Tennessee walking horse to do this?
Itxx 3 years ago
Why not? They are versatile.
araucano0 3 years ago
Very nice, I'm impressed with his form. His gait is a little trocha for me, but in retrospect you've done wonderful with him.
pushesrb 3 years ago
Great job, you have a Peruvian Paso doing dressage moves without sacrificing his gait which often happens. He's a strong animal, great legs.
2ManyTubies 3 years ago
Did you realize that the Peruvian Paso has their own form of dressage called "Enfrenadura"...you should check in to it since you own a Peruvian Paso.
ninababes1 3 years ago
Not really, la enfrenadura is more a form of reining patterns than dressage movements and foot placement.
2ManyTubies 3 years ago
congratulations !!!!
finaly somebody who train a peruvian paso not only on tolt but also in dressage !
i believe that dressage is the key to succes and necessary to keep a riding horse healthy
so congratulations !!!!!!
greetings san
pilasha2 3 years ago
Do all Peruvian Pasos paddle out like that?
Lovely horse, someone was trying to tell me today that the Peruvian Paso had a 5 beat gait. I laughed and said how is this possible they only have 4 legs?
They still insisted that Peruvian Pasos have a 5 beat gait.
sunkissedbeach 3 years ago
Yes, they all do that; It's a characteristic of the breed and a main thing that separates them from the Paso Fino..I prefer the Paso Fino, but Peruvian Pasos are pretty too =]
Sandy33569 3 years ago
Actually, it's not paddling. Paddling is an unsoundness in the knee, usually from a conformation defect, although it can also be caused by injury.
This motion is called Termino, and all Peruvians have it to some degree. Some of which are hardly noticable, but those horses don't seem to be as smooth.
Danzador is a gorgeous example of what you can do with a gaited horse & dressage training (when done right)
araucano0 3 years ago
Bravo! I raise, breed and endurance gaited horses and I have no idea how you trained that horse to do that. I am absolutely impressed. We went to the rolex last year and I am at a loss as to the subject of dressage but when you throw in the fact that you are doing it on gaited, you get an A+ from me.
Keith Kibler
Shawnee Sunrise Farm
Gaited Endurance
Carlosforgiven 3 years ago