Once I was in a club in Cuenca, Ecuador, sudenly I saw a caucasian guy arguing with a few spanish guys, he was saying: "I'm an american citizen, you assholes!!! I'm an american citizen and you can't fuck around with me!!!"... Manager from the club asked him respecfully to leave the place. Minutes later I heard from one of the spanish guys the american guy was beaten up badly out on the street.
I have traveled extensively in South America and find that the majority of Expats are thrilled to be living in their new surroundings and have an appreciation of the country, people and culture they have joined.
Maybe you are traveling in the wrong circles and you should enlarge your circle of friends and / or contacts to see the totality of the picture.
Please keep your personal biases and prejudices to yourself. As for Muslims in the U.S. the majority of Muslims I know are more critical of their leaders in their birthplace than they are of their host country.
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I agree that one should respect his host country and appreciate what it has to offer without being overly critical and/or hateful. While there are some that may fit that criteria......... continued
I was wondering if you are subscribed to gothatfunk. He's an American expat that lives in the UK. I know it's not like living in India or someplace a little more exotic to the average Westerner, but there are some differences.
When I lived in Puerto Rico, I actually blended in quite well. I enjoyed the experience very much and felt at home.
Yes, and I am at pains to point out that I'm not tarring all expats with the same brush. Most are prefectly decent people who respect their host country. But that one "type" does crop up more-or-less consistently, at least in my experience :-)
im a young british muslim, and i noticed something when i was in college, me and some friends were talking about football, and i said i support england and was happy to say so, the rest of the guys also young british muslims said they would never ever and they emphasized 'never', suport the English football team, i find it amazing i dont understand why, when it comes to cricket muslims of paksitani decent always universaly support pakistan not england.its funny they never discuss moving away.
I'm curious. Do pakistani muslims in England normally cheer for England in sports that has no pakistani team? Or do they cheer that they lose not matter who they are up against?
they never cheer for england always against, the only reason they cheer for pakistan is because cricket is the one sport pakistan is a major player in, many of my friends pick a random team to support during the world cup for instance, i think they see that if you support england its some how associated with pubs, bnp, and other white culture, there is a massive divide in u.k inner city suburbs between whites,blacks, and asians.
I've heard of that as well. I often wonder how one grows up somewhere hating it to that extent. One also wonders (as you say) why they hang around.
I ask (to myself!) the same question whenever I see an expat whinging about the filth, corruption, inefficiency and general stupidity of the country he's chosen to live in, even though he'd never give up his beachfront bungalow, servant, or his gorgeous (local) girlfriend - often 30+ years younger than him.
@crusadah... I was just wondering if you and most of these others you are talking about were born in England or are first generation born there? I have actually heard a lot about what you are talking about in not only England, but it happens here in the US with many recent or first generation immigrants. I know my grandparents on my father's side are extremely proud of their Danish heritage. Anyway, I think the question is in there somewhere :)
Same happens at football(soccer) games in Canada. Greek Canadians were noticed cheering the Greek team against the Canadian. This raised eyebrows, but no one took it as a political statement or deliberate insult to Canada. Football isn't so popular here as ice hockey, so it wasn't a big deal. But the UK football boo-ing is a different matter entirely. Cheering for a team is one thing; hating your own team because it's your own (or adopted) country's team is quite another.
Once I was in a club in Cuenca, Ecuador, sudenly I saw a caucasian guy arguing with a few spanish guys, he was saying: "I'm an american citizen, you assholes!!! I'm an american citizen and you can't fuck around with me!!!"... Manager from the club asked him respecfully to leave the place. Minutes later I heard from one of the spanish guys the american guy was beaten up badly out on the street.
tvgirlnyc 1 year ago
I have traveled extensively in South America and find that the majority of Expats are thrilled to be living in their new surroundings and have an appreciation of the country, people and culture they have joined.
Maybe you are traveling in the wrong circles and you should enlarge your circle of friends and / or contacts to see the totality of the picture.
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
@MACKATTACK1970 Here you and I must agree to differ.
Anekantavad 1 year ago
'Muslim Firebrand'?
Please keep your personal biases and prejudices to yourself. As for Muslims in the U.S. the majority of Muslims I know are more critical of their leaders in their birthplace than they are of their host country.
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I agree that one should respect his host country and appreciate what it has to offer without being overly critical and/or hateful. While there are some that may fit that criteria......... continued
MACKATTACK1970 1 year ago
@MACKATTACK1970 Do you know who Anjem Choudhry is?
If you do, I cannot see how calling him what I have called him is prejudiced or bigotted.
Anekantavad 1 year ago
I was wondering if you are subscribed to gothatfunk. He's an American expat that lives in the UK. I know it's not like living in India or someplace a little more exotic to the average Westerner, but there are some differences.
When I lived in Puerto Rico, I actually blended in quite well. I enjoyed the experience very much and felt at home.
tattooskin72 2 years ago
Yes, and I am at pains to point out that I'm not tarring all expats with the same brush. Most are prefectly decent people who respect their host country. But that one "type" does crop up more-or-less consistently, at least in my experience :-)
Anekantavad 2 years ago
im a young british muslim, and i noticed something when i was in college, me and some friends were talking about football, and i said i support england and was happy to say so, the rest of the guys also young british muslims said they would never ever and they emphasized 'never', suport the English football team, i find it amazing i dont understand why, when it comes to cricket muslims of paksitani decent always universaly support pakistan not england.its funny they never discuss moving away.
crusadah 2 years ago
@crusadah
I'm curious. Do pakistani muslims in England normally cheer for England in sports that has no pakistani team? Or do they cheer that they lose not matter who they are up against?
Censeo 2 years ago
they never cheer for england always against, the only reason they cheer for pakistan is because cricket is the one sport pakistan is a major player in, many of my friends pick a random team to support during the world cup for instance, i think they see that if you support england its some how associated with pubs, bnp, and other white culture, there is a massive divide in u.k inner city suburbs between whites,blacks, and asians.
crusadah 2 years ago
I've heard of that as well. I often wonder how one grows up somewhere hating it to that extent. One also wonders (as you say) why they hang around.
I ask (to myself!) the same question whenever I see an expat whinging about the filth, corruption, inefficiency and general stupidity of the country he's chosen to live in, even though he'd never give up his beachfront bungalow, servant, or his gorgeous (local) girlfriend - often 30+ years younger than him.
Kind of hard to listen to, I agree.
Anekantavad 2 years ago
@crusadah... I was just wondering if you and most of these others you are talking about were born in England or are first generation born there? I have actually heard a lot about what you are talking about in not only England, but it happens here in the US with many recent or first generation immigrants. I know my grandparents on my father's side are extremely proud of their Danish heritage. Anyway, I think the question is in there somewhere :)
tattooskin72 2 years ago
Same happens at football(soccer) games in Canada. Greek Canadians were noticed cheering the Greek team against the Canadian. This raised eyebrows, but no one took it as a political statement or deliberate insult to Canada. Football isn't so popular here as ice hockey, so it wasn't a big deal. But the UK football boo-ing is a different matter entirely. Cheering for a team is one thing; hating your own team because it's your own (or adopted) country's team is quite another.
Anekantavad 2 years ago
im talking about 2nd and 3rd generation.
crusadah 2 years ago
Wow, that's just odd to me. I could see new or maybe 1st generation.
tattooskin72 2 years ago