Tan Tui (潭腿)

[JainFarstrider325]

On an unrelated topic, what is the music played in this video, it is quite enjoyable.

[JainFarstrider325]

@JainFarstrider325 Well, someone below me said "Blue Kata Kung Fu", but I can't find that.

[Showmehemusic]

Tan Tui is simply and complexly the basis of Northern style boxing. Most every Northern system uses Tan Tui in some fashion though the movements may differ slightly. For instance, I learned both Mizong and Shaolin approach, but if you watch the competitive wushu way you'll see yet another difference. What's important is the conditioning and combat values. If you master only 12 Tan Tui you'll be able to defend any attacker. It covers chin na, takedowns, and strikes.

[jaceyleong]

@Showmehemusic wow.so cool.im still learning this for wushu and cant quite master it

[AdamArb89]

Great form..

[1998lennon]

o cara do vódeo é muito nom,to aprendendo tan tui até 29 ainda to

[rcwljr]

This version is very close the version I learned. My sifu told me that this style is Mai Jung Pai (Lost Track Style). To me, this video validates what I've learned is authentic, although slightly different. I believe that no one version or style of this set is more correct then the other. And that's the beauty of martial arts for it generates questions for discussions and promotes commoraderie among martial artists.

[theGuyver0]

@rcwljr

there are SO many variations of Tan Tui, i think you could just go ahead and say, "yeah there's a Tan Tui for every star in the sky."

but that's not a bad thing, i think. it shows that Kung Fu in general and Tan Tui in particular has many adherents. as long as they remain true to the roots and intent of Chinese Martial Arts, right?

[MasterPedroJoe]

Is this Tantui muslim style or not?

[barendts]

@MasterPedroJoe

My thoughts exactly. But what do I know? A Chinese Muslims is probably a hard to imagine cultural thing.

This guy's movements are somewhat different from the regular kung fu movements, don't you agree? It looks as if it's made for demonstration's to please an audiance rather than self-defence

[MasterPedroJoe]

@barendts

Yes its slow version but this form is for fight and self defense in Jing Wu school but Jing Wu dont made this form.

[lifeinkansas]

@barendts having lived in china and seen chinese muslim communities i agree it is hard to imagine as they are different. i did not even know my favorite restaurant was muslim until after i left and was told so by Grace Wu (grand dauter of Wang Zi Ping). i also learned TanTui from her and yes it was very different than the JingWu version. I think he was showing clearly the transitions rather than performing for an audience. My version is much more fluid and pauses differently but is very similar.

[lifeinkansas]

@lifeinkansas Many Muslim practice Islam in a very slight way to keep diversity but within the boundaries of the government stipulations. Muslim that i knew while in china said it was very similar but like a Islam-lite version. They were treated very harshly during the cultural revolution and either left, renounced religion, or practiced secretly. Much of the earliest imports of Muslim CMA were from people who left. When doing my TanTui in china it was called "Muslim TanTui" and same with Xingyi

[drchango2010]

Great clip. Got any northern application clips? 

[DanTheShotokanKid]

@Glygar I agree with you, and I think for everyone that's a martial artist, we shouldn't fight, we should treat each other like our brother/sister, because we're all related to through chi and martial arts

[peacemakerao]

Thank you so much for posting this, you have no idea how important it is for me. I can't go to my wushu club over the summer so I really want to impress my sifu by practicing this so that I can show him when I get back :-)

[XXXDENIZZZ]

@Glygar agreed your right :)

[Heimdal00]

When switching from horse stance to mountain stance, it looks like they are pivoting on the balls of both feet at once. It may be quick, but it still compromises balance in a practical sense. I was taught to turn one foot at a time. It also helps focus and connect the power from the back foot all the way up the body.

As well, in other mnt stance transitions, they should step forward into it. Power begins from the rear foot, not the front, so it shouldn't be sliding back, it should be rooted.

[inzaren]

Thank you for posting this, I am teaching my son Tantui forms!

[catzanellan]

whats the name of the music playing? iv been playing this over an over while doin mine and just love it.

[RKGalery]

@Glygar That's the best possible response to all that insanity. Thank you VERY much.

[Aintgivinafuck]

in my kung fu school, we learn tan tui too, but it looks so different there. most obvious points are, that our kicks are different and the punch with the backside of the hand is higher and more "energetic" or faster. i didnt know that there were different styles of tan tui, could maybe anyone tell me where i can learn something about that?

greetings

[trounds2]

Aintgivinafuck, when I learned Tan Tui, I didn't know there were different ones either. But if you look at the 'different' ones you will notice that the techniques are the same, still based on the Arabic alphabet; but the sets perform the techniques in different combinations. The flying kick is still the specialty.

[hypnotix2000]

Nicely done!!

[SoulSnatchaz]

looks like everyone wants to be right, strange enough even in martial arts. oh boy do they need to go back to basics

[RushRecklezz]

I learned a different version of this form. But good job.

[bonsai108]

Just looking at the sweat progression from beginning to end of this experienced practitioner reminds me how hard this form was.

[KungFuJoe57]

Hey,thanks for putting this up!I've been missing my lessons lately and now I can catch up with the class all thanks to this video.

[kyomodo]

yo guys this is not muslims bull shit, this is kung fu from bei shaolin, and the guy is to fast and his moves are not strong enough. i know that set of movements i been praticing for many years

[easyonetwothree]

Tan tui: Founded by a Muslim (Wikipedia)

[TaoOfTheFist]

Hey, I practice that "muslim bull shit", and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The first five are practically the same. It's just a different interpretation of the same great idea. It's not better and it's not worse then the jiao men set. Just different.

I think that he's just running throught the set for filming purposes, but I agree for the most part.

[felixngcheehoe]

Hello, This is the basic of martial arts from Chin Woo.There are altogether seven sets of unarmed combat and TamTui is the first set.When we advance to middle level, then we learn different type of martial arts like mantis style, taiji, and Cha Kuen.

Tamtui is a very effective style.

Do not belittle this form as it was used by Grand Master Fok Yuen Kap to fight with a Japanese martial arts in Tianjin back in the 1900's.

[TaoOfTheFist]

I wasn't belittling the form at all, I was saying that belittling the Jiaomen set was unnecessary, especially since all other tantui forms come from this particular set. Calling the muslim set bull shit is calling all the other sets bullshit, and we all know that's not true...

[kyomodo]

this is not muslim...... i dont know why people says that.. it has the 2 inch punch in there..

[gamma235]

@kyomodo yo man. Time for a wake up call: there are Chinese Muslims and they created Tan Tui! This guy is demonstrating the moves for people to follow. Why don't you appreciate the fact that someone cared enough to put this up here for free?

[kyomodo]

@gamma235

yeah chinese not muslims,people clearly said muslims, not chinese muslims, there a big differents young man.people wil think those terrorist you saw who blow up the building and killed many people in 2003... and if you want to show something.. do it right ? so the people will know, if they show it to a kung fu gym, they ganna laugh at him (hahaha)..

[anhkhoinguyen]

Muslims = people who fellow islam. Chinese muslim aka the Hui people fellow islam there for they ARE MUSLIMS! there is no different, muslim is not a race but a name for people who fellow islam you idiot...And the terrorist bombings that killed many people happened in 2001 NOT 2003...LOL if your going to be a smart ass at least use common sense and get your facts straight. and this video here is apart of a instructional where they slow shit down for people to fellow you, oh and go back to school

[kyomodo]

@ anhkhoinguyen

well his movements are not that really good as i learned it from a great master "chan knowk wai" 60 years experienced... and big deal i type the wrong number.. i wrote 2003 instead of 2001.. i mean 2001 not 2003 BTW .

[anhkhoinguyen]

How do you expect people to take your comment seriously when you cant even get something like the date of 9/11 attacks correct that even homeless kids in the streets would know lol

Its an instructional, they slow and de-power the movement so its easier for people to follow and learn, whats so hard to understand about that?? BTW just bekuz your master taught you one way doesnt mean everyone else is wrong, his master could say the same thing about your forms. then who would be right/wrong?..

[kyomodo]

yea maybe ur right...

[anhkhoinguyen]

Tan Tui came from chinese muslims, the 12 road here is a shaolin version but its still a muslim form weather you like it or not. Books magazines and the internet and everyone here and there shifus proves you wrong. =]

[Gieszkanne]

There is no written history about that! Tan tui is very old also like Cha quan. Cha quan ist a kind of Chang Quan. Its both not clearly developed by chinese muslim. For sure its mostly practiced by ch. muslim but also by many nonmuslim. Why do you make such muslim politics? Just ask your self what was first Wushu or Islam ;)

[anhkhoinguyen]

what was first wushu or islam? i fail to see your point your trying to make? Cha Quan came from chinese muslim thats a fact and is very well documented =] Cha as in Chasamir(founder)...a chinese muslim name derived from persian chagamir, chinese language usually shorted non-chinese names to one syllable turning it to Cha. Tan Tui with 28 roads for the 28 alphabet of the abrabic language was later refined to 10, and by other schools to 12. that is fact buddy no politics just answering someone.

[Gieszkanne]

"i fail to see your point your trying to make?" I see!!! Do we know the teacher of Chasamir! Does he get Muslim after he "created" Cha quan. Does he created it or was he just the only known line holder of this style. Again old Chang quan is older and very similar! Same with Tantui some even try at baji. Chinese culture is just older than Islam. The "muslim" styles just fit in and are adopted. To say they are "muslim" styles are politics.

[trounds2]

@Geiszkanne, typical of a European, to believe they know more about another race's history than the race's native historians who studied their own native history in traditional ways. Chinese historians say all Tan Tui styles, Chaquan came from Muslims. As far as a style being similar: unless you have a person with an arm coming out of his back making a martial art, all Martial Arts will look similar no matter who developed them. Take your European racist hatred of Muslims somewhere else.

[Gieszkanne]

@trounds2

First of all Chinese are not one race more less Muslims! So call me a racist is laughable! Its typical Muslim defense just to imply hate to the critic because they have no argument. I guess you dont know anything about chinese culture. I love it. I just don want that they claim this art like they do with the 0-10 Number system which is totaly indian/vedic! Its typical Muslim to steal some Ideas and claim it as muslim. The biggest evidence is the koran! This is simple truth not hate!

[trounds2]

@Gieszkanne, Its a typical Muslim response to ignore racists as useless loudmouths unless they get physical, then we fight. Its also typical of a racist coward to back down when called a racist and pretend to have a reason. Bottom line:Chinese non-Muslims say all Tan Tui was developed by Muslims; no large area of China was ruled by Muslims so there is no reason why they'd lie. And yes, the 0 was developed by Muslims. Europeans have stolen every science, art, and martial art from other races.

[Gieszkanne]

@trounds2

Do you really need a explanation why muslims are no race? Have you ever read the koran? Or are just to stupid?

0 is vedic/indian even some muslims know that. The most non muslim Chinese just dont reject because they dont care and didnt know better. "Europeans have stolen every science, art, and martial art from other races. " haha

And again races. You use this so often I think you must be a racist!

[anhkhoinguyen]

I never said it was practised by only muslims, so why bring up it was practised by many non muslims ? lol and how is stating a arts origin a muslim politics? lol Chinese kung fu is chinese kung fu so is chaquan and tan tui, all im saying is its founders using chinese kung fu to created there own styles. Cha IS a chinese muslim surname is it not?(google it) and Chasamir was a muslim correct? Cha quan means CHAsamirs-fist or kung fu correct? THANK YOU! =]

[Gieszkanne]

Yes I can google. Dont you think I dont know the history about Zhasamir? But you should also know that there is only oral History not written.

Why I mentioned the non muslim. Because it also get influenced by them!

[anhkhoinguyen]

also i can careless about muslims or islam or whateva...I only get irked when people like kyomodo or whateva his SN was gives ignorant remarks and dont give credit to one of many chinese minoritys that make up the chinese nation and culture. =]

[Gieszkanne]

They dont make it up even their mosques look like Chinese temples. And their older culture was budhhist.

watch?v=Q9HqfqD9f_8&NR=1

You think you are smart?

[vitorlsr]

Que eu saiba ñ é bem assim o Tan tui!!!

[RedFist96]

its not muslim tantui, its the version from huaquan华拳, but its also from shandong, jinning. cai guixing (father of cai longyun) bring this tantui into jingwu in republic era.

[vepost]

Tan Tui comes from the muslims  so dont hate

tan tui was learned from a muslim general who taught it to the xinjiang people whotook care of him also known as hua people who are from turk decent

[bicconsulting1234]

it is from chinese muslims you have to go to xian

[xXmellykinsXx]

dam hes hella tired

[iostream1]

where can i see this art in action? any vids?

[alnllc]

tantui is practically islamic chinese martial arts.

[hathorliderc]

Yeah...that wasn't quite the answer I was looking for. Tantui is also an exercise practiced by students of Northern Shaolin, Mantis, and Changquan as well as others. I appreciate the small lesson, but a lot of it I knew already.

I practice Northern Shaolin and we also incorporate Tantui in our exercises, however, the vid shows some moves that differ from the style I practice. My question was whether or not it was the original style, or some sub-style of the art.

[hathorliderc]

What style is that? It doesnt look like Northern Shaolin

[alnllc]

antui (flicking or spring leg) is a style originally from Turfan usually used as basic training for Zhaquan. Originally, there were 28 lines of tantui, one for each letter of the Arabic alphabet; however,later on,the last 18,which were comparatively complex,were merged into two forms called Tuiquanshi still practiced in Zhaquan.Tantui has been adapted and modified by many other styles of martial arts for basic training, including other styles of changquan,the Song style of xingyiquan,and others.

[tntjperic]

its a Northern Shao-lin form mostly taught as the 2nd form but is preformed faster then this. I think he is doing this slowly to help others learn it or is practicing his footwork.

[hathorliderc]

I'll buy that. =P

[gamma235]

Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. I learned this when I lived in Hong Kong as my second Shaolin form. The first one was called 8 horse steps (I think) from a Mantis style. Anyways, I found this form to be incredibly tedious and boring to learn. There are apparently a lot of essential Shaolin basics included in it though. I learned a couple of the applications before I left. This vid is helping me to brush up!

[Kasse00]

The Firs Kata?

[kyomodo]

@ kasse00

this is not kata like you know karate....

[psifudragon1]

Excellent form. My compliments to the instructor.

[alnllc]

Tantui (flicking or spring leg) is a style originally from Turfan usually used as basic training for Zhaquan.Originally, there were 28 lines of tantui, one for each letter of the Arabic alphabet;however,later on,the last 18,which were comparatively complex,were merged into two forms called Tuiquanshi,still practiced in Zhaquan.Tantui has been adapted and modified by many other styles of martial arts for basic training,including other styles of changquan,the Song style of xingyiquan, and others.

[TJSchutte]

Very nice. I am currently learning Tan Tui, and this video is a great help.

[FlamencoChe]

Nice form! I like his circles kicks.

#6 is slightly different from the way I learned the form and I like his version as well as mine.

[Fangoverfang11]

that might be a dumb question but are Tan tui fights really that slow ?

[TJSchutte]

No, tan tui is a form, a practice set. The real-world application is much faster.

[Fangoverfang11]

Ahh ok thanks

[theGuyver0]

yeah, i think i saw a Tan Tui trained fighter in a Sanda match, and that dude was all over the other guy with VERY traditional type strikes and kicks, all of which were super fast!

[Fangoverfang11]

i see...

cool^^

[CBSaeji]

very precise moves but chintzy backdrop

[Vanpur]

This is a good example of tan tui, one of the best that have been posted on youtube.

[zanesthename]

very nice ... I learned that at James Wing Woo school in California, 1970s

[Zenzo1]

meine mum sagt dass du toll bist

[lohan570]

i love it

[alasdairmonteith]

Great!!!!

[DarkaquaZeon]

A++++++++++++++++++++++

[xxkodiakx]

great job !

[Bloodbone63]

This brings back memories.

We did this in Jimmy Wong's school.

[moustafawushu]

ur kung fu will be good only if ur tantui is good, this is old chinese saying!

really if u devote more time to practice tantui and gong li quan ur skills will improve so much

[maestronobones]

thanks for this clear informative video. I studied the tan tui set many years ago and had some interest in picking this set up again to some extent. this is excellent study material.