Making Colloidal Gold by Low Voltage Electrolysis

[MrAleks199]

can u give me some detales for gold Electrolysis ? im to much interested  .. can u help me to learn the steps ?? thanks for understanding

[kephranet]

@MrAleks199 I give instructions and help on my website (address above)

[rarosera]

Question: is it not necessary to create an arc? I see CG systems using arcs and others NOT using arcs, can anyone clarify this for me?

[kephranet]

@rarosera No, absolutely not!. Arc systems require lethal high voltages to spark off gold. This method uses safe low voltage to remove gold chemically.

[rarosera]

@kephranet Thanks. I thought that was a bit odd. Another question; Must it be 24ct gold or can it be made with 22ct?

[kephranet]

@rarosera It must be pure gold... 24kt, .999 fine. Otherwise, you are putting what could be toxic metals into your colloidal gold.

[rarosera]

@kephranet Oh dang! Then I think I will have to make it from gold chloride following your instructions. Thank you for your answers and your info. You make a great teacher!

[Smokofilomidanek53]

Could anyone tell me why do I need to use a copper wire instead of a gold one?

Is any reason for that?

[kephranet]

@Smokofilomidanek53 You don't have to use copper, you can use gold, or stainless steel, or even an iron nail for the negative. It will become gold plated over time. But it is a waste of money to use gold for the negative, when metal only comes off the positive anode. This is based on electroplating. Metal enters solution from the positive electrode and plates onto the negative unless it is reduced chemically in between.

[Smokofilomidanek53]

@kephranet Thank you for that. One more question Sir., What Aperage of 36V should I use?

I tried 4x9V batteries and it didn't work at all, VARIAC vould be better?



[kephranet]

@Smokofilomidanek53 No, 9 volt batteries do not work, they simply can't supply enough power. My setup draws about 200 ma, and my supply is rated at 1 amp. I would try to get one rated at least 500ma to be safe.

[MrSirSmoky]

@kephranet Finally I got all equipment and components necessary for such experiment, but I figured out that all of those stories about "easy colloidal gold making" is one BS.

I got nice AC/DC Variacs, heated magnetic stirrer, sodium citrate & much more; ph testers, couple TDS's', pure (24K) wires and guess what? I have no positive results as expected! At any temperature, at any voltage,... I can't get colloidal gold as you guys were showing. What I am doing wrong?

[kephranet]

@MrSirSmoky

I don't know why you bought a TDS meter (useless), or a variac (not needed), or a pH meter (not needed), and I don't know what you actually did, so unless you tell me more I can't help you. The process works as I showed, and many people have duplicated it on my forum. Join the forum, and I will try to help you figure it out.

[MrMicroguy]

@MrSirSmoky A "Variac" is an AC transformer. Alternating current. You need DC for this, direct current. As for the other stuff, I don't know, but I know this is a DC process,and you have AC equipment. (unless your DC supply is plugged into the variac for some silly reason)

[Smokofilomidanek53]

@kephranet Thank you for that. One more question Sir., What Amperage of 36V should I use?

I tried 4x9V batteries and it didn't work at all, VARIAC vould be better?

[kephranet]

@12StepTruth

No, not really, 9 volt batteries will not supply enough current for enough time. You will be lucky to get one batch out of a set of 4 batteries. That would make the process pretty expensive.

[hswon2277]

also where to get 36v dc power supply?

[kephranet]

@hswon2277

eBay almost always has suitable power supplies. It does not have to be exactly 36 volts.

[hswon2277]

@kephranet

Thank you so much.

[hswon2277]

where to buy pure gold wire?

[kephranet]

@hswon2277

Try jewelery makers supply companies, or if you are in the US,

ccsilver , or monsterslayer

or Hauser & Miller

[inocentforever]

Hello what are the drops of liquid that you apply before the corn syrup?

[kephranet]

@inocentforever

It is just a little distilled water to wash out the weighing pans.

[inocentforever]

can you drink this??

[kephranet]

@inocentforever

There are no toxic byproducts, and gold itself is not toxic. Master chefs sometimes use gold foil in food, so I believe it is safe to drink, and I in fact do so.

[MorphixNW]

could you assist me setting up something like this? is the process collecting the gold on the gold cathode? is the process the same for other precious metals like silver and platinum, whereby a silver or platinum cathode is used instead?

[kephranet]

@MorphixNW

For help, I suggest visiting the forum cgcsforum (dot) com

The goal is to get as little of the gold on the cathode as possible, and instead, intercept it while still in solution and convert it back to metal before it has a chance to form big particles.

[cavielles]

this is the red potable gold who alchemist talk about? :) it produces high spin monoatomic gold?

thank you for sharing!!

[kephranet]

@cavielles

No one can be absolutely sure, but I strongly suspect they are the same. The oldest formula I have found so far for red gold dates to the mid 1600's, and uses aqua regia to dissolve gold, and then pure tin to reduce it back to nanoparticles.

This is not monoatomic high spin gold although there may be some small portion of it in that state.. It is the gold that most researchers are currently experimenting with though..