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  • Click the link in the video description for the crank pulley tool we now recommend!

  • what length is the 1/2" breaker bar on the crankshaft pulley? please! 

  • @Darkmand8 the breaker bar is 14' long. The longer the better though!

  • That's it, because you put oil on the threads before it goes back in the hole. Bolt looks bone dry on every one I've done except the first one witch was getting it's second belt. Good call Den. And here I was thinking you had the strength of Superman. ;-) Also, do you have a link where folks can order that tool from you. I posted this vid for a nephew on my FB & would like to put a link so he knows where to get it. Thanks.

  • @boogernat The link is in the video description, you can also Google denlors crank pulley tool.

  • Never seen one brake loose that easy. I have to start with the cheater pipe at about 2 or 3 o'clock & it breaks loose at about 11 o'clock & sounds like you done tore something up. Other than that, very nice vid.

  • @boogernat If they have never been loosened before, you're right they're a booger!

  • thanks for posting, bought tool & it worked just fine. dave

  • denlorstools 

  • @DenLorsTools my man great job but now can you tell me how to put it back on,  and how much torque do i need to get it not to fall????

  • @nv89502 You won't have to worry about it falling. I used to just tighten with an impact wrench (around 85 ft. pounds). If you want exact torque specifications you may want to refer to a service manual. Good Luck.

  • where can i get this special tool?

  • Just to recap the problem-the entire engine (crankshaft) turns when loosening the bolt. Years ago when I ran across my first Honda crank bolt that I could not get loose, I tried a torch...didn't work. You may also damage the front crank seal with the heat. In my experience a 1/2" "strong" impact may only work if the bolt has previously been off at some point. If it's the first time being loosened it will most likely require a 3/4 impact w/plenty of air volume from a shop compressor or the tool.

  • Ingersoll Rand 2135TiMAX, 1/2 inch air line, and 175 psi. is all i need. ain't never had one i could break, when that pressure build up. i done seen one break the head off the gun it got so much torque!!!

  • Holy shit, just heat it up and then use the impact wrench while its hot. Comes right off.

  • @vprice66

    Won't you damage the crankshaft seal that way?

  • @thaik56 The seal is behind the pulley. So, no the seal will not be damaged by using the holding tool. The seal can be damaged if a acetylene torch is used to heat up the bolt to try to loosen. The torch may not even loosen the bolt either. I tried a long time ago, before I started selling tools, to use a torch to heat the bolt (I was going to replace the seal anyway). But heating it up did NOT help. This is one case where having the right specialty tool can make all the difference in the world!

  • @thaik56 The seal is behind the pulley. So, no the seal will not be damaged by using the holding tool. The seal can be damaged if a acetylene torch is used to heat up the bolt to try to loosen. The torch may not even loosen the bolt either. I tried a long time ago, before I started selling tools, to use a torch to heat the bolt (I was going to replace the seal anyway). But heating it up did NOT help. This is one case where having the right specialty tool can make all the difference in the world!

  • whats the torque on the pulley anyways whys it so hard to get off xD lol. a 24" breaker bar and extensions good enough?

  • you guys ever heard of a torch ?

  • I do honda timing belts all the time, I use a mac version of this tool, its the only way to do it. The easiest way to break the bolt loose is to let the breaker bar that the holder tool is attached to come around and rest on the control arm that way the tool has a positive stop and you can break the crank bolt loose with another braker bar. If you do this on a lift you dont have to get a jack stand like in the video

  • Do you turn to the left to loosen the bolt? Ive heard that some goes to the right.

  • @SuperSocomeR All are right hand threads.

  • Its funny all that the company that makes this tool doesnt seem to realize its pourpose. The reason honda and every other car company designs the balancers with ways to hold them to break the bolt loose is so that the bearings in the crankshaft are not damaged. The shock of the impact gun could put dings in the bearings. If you read the fsm from honda or whoever they explain this. just my 2cents.

  • honda sucks!!!

  • Wow... i know nothing of cars. Looks friggin interesting since i like guns...

  • could've have just turned on the car and the wheels will turn when you had the ranch goin to the ground

  • @myshadowz205 - wrong. the accord engine turns counter-clockwise. what you are suggesting would just tighten (and probably damage) the bolt.

    One thing you can do however is lower piston #4 all the way down, fill the sparkplug tube w/ rubber hose and then use that as leverage to break the bolt open.

  • Smart use of the jackstand to prevent the extensions from flexing.

  • could've turned on the engine. it'll turn itself but you'll need to put the ranch or w/e at a fix point

  • Stupid piece of *hit Honda. Ok back to changing my accords timing belt.

  • Tried this just now... feel like Im going to break my 1/2in drive extensions. Wish I had a 3/4in drive 19mm.... One of those crank holder tools work well though. Some dumbass must have over torqued mine.

  • hey i seen that cheap blue point impact gun before lol, yeah if thats the impact you are subjected too, then buy the tool. Wait maybe its a mac impact. Denslor honesty question could 1000 ft lbs. of ingersolrand impact break that bolt free without the special tool?

  • Ingersoll Rand, close when you guessed Mac (that's who makes theirs). A 1,000 ft pound 1" impact gun will almost surely work. How many guy's have access to one of those in their driveway?

  • very good video. informative as well thanks!! thumbs up to you man!!!!

  • just use a better gun (1 inch.).... lube your gun! are you doing a tbelt? hmm maybe if you lossen the motor mount( will give you a lot of space)

  • AWESOME!

  • Good vid. If only it went as smoothly.. Im sure you edited out all of the cussing and frustration lol

  • Well, yesterday (and today, lol) were my first run ins with the all mighty honda crank bolt..

    I've broken two extensions and two sockets so far and the thing hasn't budged.  I'm going to go get some 1/2" extensions tomorrow. I only had 3/8" extensions so I tried using those. NOT a good idea.

  • Thanks for making this video and sharing how to do this. I am buying this tool after already breaking the nut loose with a chain wrench. DO NOT USE A CHAIN WRENCH. It will damage the pulley no matter what you put around the pully.

    Buy this tool to get the nut off for a timing belt change.

    Also, make sure all marks are lined up perfectly and you put timing belt on in sequence shown in manual.

    I got it all back together to find I was one tooth off.

  • ha ha, That is some nasa automotive engineering to get that bolt loose.Love the breaker bar to floor wedge:) I am a auto tech also and have replaced many t-belts on Accords and Civics and can tell from experience that those Honda crank bolts are the tightest out there. Sometimes I can bust them loose with my 3/4" impact ;)

  • I think you should invest in a better impact gun min 800Lbs tourge. Such as CP Turbo or Air cat. The one you got is from Walmart 19.99. LOLO. Also start learing how to use gas tourch. It will help you alot.

  • do you have videos for vw cv axle shaft bolts

  • It's hard to find this at just any auto parts store. We just put a new head on my 94 Civic Ex today. (love that car) lol. Had to take that out to get into it deeper to time the engine. We used an Impact Wrench at about 125 psi Worked like a charm for us.

  • Yes!

    I need one of these right now!

  • does anyone know the honda part number for this tool

  • Bottom line use the special tool, impact sockets, impact extensions, jackstand, and breaker bars with long cheater bars.

  • Used an aircat 1/2 impact gun rated for 1000 ft/lbs of torque on my honda and it didn't even budge. Bought the holder tool, a 1/2 breaker bar, 20 inch extension and tried this with a 4 foot cheater bar on the breaker bar. I broke the 20 inch extension.

    My neighbor is an authorized distributor for matco and came over with his truck. We tried with his IR airgun and that didn't work. Tried again with the method with some impact extensions and i heard the most awful creak when it the bolt came off

  • Hey, thank you very much for the video! I am fixing a broken timing belt on a 1990 Honda Civic, but I think my harmonic balancer/crankshaft pulley is an aftermarket or something. It doesn't have the large hex opening to fit the tool in, but instead has a round opening... Could it have been replaced by a previous owner or something? Or is my year/model not applicable?

  • hey there! well i got a 1990 honda accord will that tool work for all honda?

  • Hi. Yes, more than likely it will. See the tech article linked in more info. Also our product listing shows an application for the Honda & Acura vehicles it works on.

  • This works but not as powerful as without the jackstand. I used only a short extension for the ratchet because the longer the extension is the more torque is lost. Here's how i did it. I just do a jump kick on the ratchet using my whole body weight on that kick. Just make sure you hold on to the front end of the car so that you won't lose your balance while doing it. It works way better than this because other guys in my shop did this extension and jack stand and they failed.

  • Thanks for the input. This was done low to simulate not having a vehicle rack. If a lift is used, a long breaker bar without extensions can be used, since clearing the car isn't a problem. Also, if using the extensions, try using multiple short ones instead of one or two longer ones that tend to flex more. The short extension combo seems to lose less torque power as a result.

  • use 3/4 impact gun more easy than this tool

  • are u sure the impact gun didnt work?

    how were u so easy to break it loose.

    i've been trying for hours and still dont work.

    i like the product thoug, holds it still nice..

    i know a impact gun should work...

  • get a Dewalt Corded impact wrench and an oxyacetylene torch to heat the bolt and hit it with the impact. Use the corded Dewalt b/c it has 345ft-lbs of torque and an endless power supply

  • do you know how to make the pulley stay still?

    other than holding the transmission..

    my pulley turns left...so yeah that sucks..

    i can do the the way how u start the engine and bam it'll be losse.

    cuz fok it turns left...

  • You are Da Man.......

    Thank you

  • hey man thanks for the vide it work good

    now i know i was triying my inpact wrench

    but now i know thanks angain

  • you can also use a pipe chain to hold the pulley but a quality one costs the same as this tool so I would just buy the tool.....unless you already have a pipe chain laying around.

  • Watch using a pipe chain, because it can damage the pulley where the belt rides. This can result in belts wearing out prematurely.

  • How much pressure do you figure you're putting on there? 150 maybe 200 lbs? Why not just use an 800 lb impact wrench? Wouldn't that pop it off easily (It did on my GM).

  • The brake idea would work for breaking the lugnuts loose, but really doesn't have any effect on the engine turning.

  • Yes of course the brakes affect engine turning, DenLorsTools. ZeroFossilFuel has a manual transmission - when placed in gear as he indicated, the engine is directly connected to the driven wheels through the clutch and transmission. Therefore, with the brakes applied to the wheels, the engine cannot turn until the torque applied with a breaker bar exceeds the amount of braking force (or the clutch slips if it is bad). The nut will certainly come loose before that...

  • I understand what you are saying, but I'm speaking from experience - "it doesn't work." See the Honda Timing Belt Tips article (click the link in the more info section) for more information based on my experience as a Master Auto Technician. I first tried that method back in the early 1980's! Thanks for your comments.

  • Also, using the brakes "In gear" is no good when, like me, your honda has an auto box!

  • Good video. Like the jackstand fulcrum. Great minds think alike! ;-)

    I also have a 4cyl 89 Accord LXi in need of a timing belt. Fortunately it's a 5spd so I can just leave it in 5th gear and have an assistant apply the brakes.

  • what is that you used to hold the bolt and remove it

  • no no it's to block the crank pulley so you can take off the bolt.

  • Thanks for posting this video! you save my day!

  • youre right dondawg00 they are a bunch of parts changers but thats for a reason... PROFIT MARGIN why pay a bunch of honda master techs upwards of 32 to 35 per flat rate hour when you can have two mayyyyybe three masters techs and 20 parts changers that earn sayyy 10 to 12 per flat rate hour .... And the funny thing is these guys actually become very good at changing parts so VOLUME is the key here dude.i'll give you a few realistic numbers here.A bay is expected to do thirty grand a month in a

  • DAMN you! Found this video after 2 hours of trying "Other" methods including heavy duty impact guns - Use this tool and a metric ton of Giv'r...

  • Thank you very much. I went to Canadian tire and bought the tool and it really did work.  That bolt was the most stubborn one i have ever encountered before. Thanks for this video.

    So for all of you having the problem... don't worry... this tool really did work!

    Thanks

    Joe

  • ive been trying to get that freaking bolt off all day so seeing this is almost maddening. but at least there's hope.

  • thanks for a great tutorial, i got the tool but still couldnt get it off the jack stand under the extension was the key. i used a 1/2 in breaker bar, 19mm black socket and 4 foot pipe on the other end. i did not even use anything on the crankshaft tool. instead i jammed a piece of 1/2 wood between the tool and the body and let the tool snug up against the undercarriage. worked like a charm. thanks again.

  • I have never had to replace the crank bolt on a Honda or Acura. You would want to replace it if the threads appear to be worn/stretched or if the bolt takes excessive force to get started. You should be able to start the bolt by hand easily....if you can't then replace it.

  • Bought the crank pulley tool and tried a 4' breaker bar trying to crack it, then a slightly smaller bar and a massive pipe (hitting the bar), then my 500ft/lb rattle gun, then tried a 4' bar and pipe off that and it still hasn't budged!

    Damage so far: 3x broken extensions and a busted breaker bar!

    I'm sure that my bolt is ceased on. Going to attack it at work with a bigger (3/4") rattle-gun and maybe heat the bolt with the oxy.

    The tool is doing it's job perfectly, however.

  • In most cases guys don't run into as much trouble as you are having. Sounds like your crank bolt could have been cross threaded or someone could have used loc-tite, I wish you luck...

  • Thanks for the reply DenLors.

    I managed to get it off using the crank pulley tool to brace the crank and used a big 3/4" impact gun at my work (we've got a BIG air compressor). The bolt appeared to have loc-tite on it.

    I must restate that the tool DID do its job perfectly ;)

  • Ok so I am a DIY, I arrived at my friends shop this morning, 11am, at 530pm minutes before the shop closed I was unable to remove the bolt, almost 6 hours and was never able to remove that bolt. I used a snap on tool 500lbs impact gun, and it made a mockery of all of the techs at my friends shop, so I called up my local auto parts store, they don't have it, found a place online that does, going to try this little handy tool at soon as it arrives...

  • First of all that tool is a copy of Honda's factory tool so it's not innovative or anything.

    As far as most Honda techs being half ass parts replacers that's your opinion. I'm sure someone could say the same about Chevy techs too so what. Just because you work at a dealership it doesn't make you some superstar. I can tell you the pool of techs at dealers are rapidly changing to non english speakers to save money and the quality of work in time will reflect this.

  • We have sold hundreds of these tools to guys with their cars broken down at home and did not have access to a 3/4" impact gun and a large enough air compressor to power it sufficiently.

  • This video is a joke. I've worked for Honda for 10+ years as a tech and used the factory tool which this tool is a copy of about twice. Buy a decent impact gun and you don't need this tool. The tech in the video can't be a real tech, you don't need a 18 inch extension and a jack to support it to get the crank bolt off, lol

    Raise the car in the air and use a socket and breaker bar and you can prop the other bar against the subframe.

    These guys are newbies....

  • Thanks for your comment. This video was made to demonstrate how the "do it yourselfer" at home in the driveway can loosen the Honda crank bolt, that is the reason for the car being low and for the use of the extensions.

  • Not everyone has a air supply to use a impact, this tool is a good tool to have if you don't. And no offense, but almost all of the techs at Honda are half ass parts replacers, not mechanics.

  • In your experience removing the crank bolt do you think the bolt should be replaced after taking it off or will the same bolt be fine to put back on?

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