Nietzsche is shit. In 2000 years people will think of him as an idiot and a slimeball. Moral degenerate, psychopath. It's *degenerating* the human race, the low-lives are multiplying. Just like everything is upside down, so does he corrupt and degenerate humanity. ..And I don't just mean WW2...
@WlKlNG P 1 ''hepatitis '' Ehh yeah reading him will give you illness... That is the most stupidest crap I have ever read. And for your knowlage it is philosophy that has defined the scientific method. Now Nietzsche hade nothing to do with WW2 or nazism. In fact he hated anti-semnitism. His nazi sister abused and alterd him for the nazis.
Nietzsche argued that morality and meaning to life are subjective. And yes he argued that absolute truth is inposible and you know what I agree. And
Truth exists, truth is objective, just like the sun and the fact that the earth revolves around it not vice versa and if you think THAT's not true... then u need help. Even Fred couldn't argue his way out of that one.. didn't know enough physics... he only knew Greek... and only if u finish physics or at least math.. then u can study philosophy.
Stick to science kids. S. Hawking says philosophers are idiots. Nieche will only give u hepatitis or worse - syhpilis and then u will be in a world of shit. Do your math homework. Do ur best and dont listen to this shit. it will make u a total slimy asshole incapable of achieving anything. Only a handful of people ever achieve anything with nietzsches help and they are all out-of-date now.
superman.... everything is subjective?? maybe the sun is subjective too and the curvature of the earth is merely a phenomenon when it's really flat.. because I say so.. and if I say it. than that's how it is...
@WlKlNG Well what you see is a representation of the world made by your neurobiological structure. That is like colours they are only the representation of light frequencies by your brain. They do not exist but they are the phenomina we experience.
Morality does not exist objectivly nor does meaning
pow pow.. have u been dazzled yet??? are u eating from the gutter already?? Of course not, you're too smart for thAt!! muhahahahhaaaa. wanna go to jail? u can. He was a sophist. He just talked a lot of shit and turned everyting upside down... and u bought it..
Take the mark of the beasts, slaves. Obey. Power. Evil = Good. Hitler approves of Nietzsche. The Antichrist also approves of this message. The Government approves of this message.
@TrunkMonkey3000 Hitler did not aprove of Nietzsche. He hated anti-semnitism and nationalism. His sister was a nazi and she abused his works for her ends.
@Eopyk The fact is much of Hitler's philosophy aligns perfectly with Nietzsche. Take for example, Hitler tried to recreate the idea of an ancient master race of Aryans, which had its occult and Satanic roots. Nietzsche wrote of the Ubermensch (spelling) a master race of humans, wrote about in Nietzsche's Satanic books, the Antichrist. Hitler was an antichrist - we all know this. Nietzsche wrote extensively of the Antichrist in his books, one of which was called The Antichrist.
@TrunkMonkey3000 No Nietzsches übermensch is not about a ancient master race. The übermench is someone who shapes his own values and lives after them and who shapes there own meaning to life and shapes reality after his or her own wil and founds there own morals nothing to do with ''race''l . Nietzsche is one of the founder of Nihiliesm and existentialism. You must read more and assume less.
"...the anti-Semites...are...men of resentment, these physiologically impaired and worm-eaten men, a totally quivering earthly kingdom of subterranean revenge, inexhaustible, insatiable in its outbursts against the fortunate...there could be no greater and more fateful misunderstanding than if...the fortunate, the successful, the powerful in body and spirit should start to doubt their right to happiness." -- Genealogy of Morals
You also said he hated anti-semnitism , I don't know who you mean by he though, but I'm assuming you're talking about Nietzsche. Anyways, Nietzsche had a profound hatred for the works of Jesus Christ - and also the church. The only two commandments Jesus gave were love God with all of your heart, and love your fellow human with all of your heart. The teachings of Jesus were based 100% on the Jewish people, and their religion. It's a fascinating subject, I would love to talk more about it.
@SiegmundHildebrand But the Will to Power was not his work per se. Elizabeth had altered it to fit the Nazi propaganda machine. Beyond Good and Evil, to me had more of an impact.
Nietzsche's indictement of Christianity is not anti-christ nor is it anti-god, Christianity is not the religion of Jesus aka Christ Micheal but the religion of Paul.
Jesus would never be a christian, perhaps a Hare Krsna or a Buddhist, definetely not a fundamentalist Christian ; )
PS: Nietzsche is not God, and You're an even lesser monkey in space for suggesting so.
@commonberus1 "God is dead"----With this he meant that he died because certain people stoped believing.On the other hand at first comes the existence and then the "end".So a never existing guy can't die.If there was a god it was Nietzsche.
Burtrand Russell, in his essay 'Cosmic Purpose', claims that Hitler's ideals came mainly from Nietzsche. I also remember reading something similiar from another sourse but I cannot recall where.
Anyone who has read Nietzshe's works -and not just quotes- will know enough not to blame him for National Socialism.
Every half-wit who tries to associate Nietzsche with Nazism needs an education. In several of his books, he denounces antisemitism and nationalism (he actually fell out with Wagner over these issues).
your right, besides it was his sister who wanted to make a name for her brother who invoked nietzsche's work to the nazi party.. not nietzsche himself.. why don't people ever do research?
I will never get that, he blasts Germany in so many passages. Saw somewhere a great quote saying that anyone who fell into the nationalistic movement should be held with cold contempt. Wish he would come back from the dead and run this country.
"When Christianity departed from its native soil, that of the lowest orders, the underworld of the ancient world, and began seeking power among barbarian peoples, it no longer had to deal with exhausted men, but with men still inwardly savage and capable of self-torture—in brief, strong men, but bungled men.... torture in all its forms, whether bodily or not; the whole pomp of the cult."
Simply because the fact that you are arguing there is NOT a "God" of ANY type means that you are acknowledging the fact that someone believes in a God...you are so busy trying to prove the point that there isn't a God, you don't realize it. THAT makes you a hypocrite...arguing about something that is right in front of you. You can't see the forest for the trees.
You make no sense whatsoever. Because he acknowledges that someone believes in god and because he is "busy trying to prove" there's no god, he therefore doesn't realize god's real?
Nice reasoning, but you're obviously indoctrinated, so your reasoning in this area will be seriously hamstrung.
why is it that when I say something that has a deliberate intention of making you think that any one of the atheists say "you make no sense"? This is what appalls me. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that my logic has no sense. There are others that agree with my logic. Even THEY make sense to someone...and "you make no sense" is NOT a valid reference when you haven't proven how I make no sense. See, we're talking in circles now....and that is INFINITE.
Because there is no logic behind what you're saying. It's all emotional bullshit. What separates your mythology from the Greek mythologies? Explain this Harve, there is NO difference. You are no more enlightened at this moment than any Greek who believed in Zeus.
and what makes YOUR convictions any more valid than mine? Atheists and Christians will always have this "impass" at any time. My so-called "mythology" isn't much different than the Greeks, the Mayans, or any other culture in that EVERY culture throughout history has ALWAYS worshipped SOMETHING. This isn't an argument on right or wrong, it's an argument based on FAITH...YOU have faith there is NOTHING, I have faith there IS.
What a crock of shit, I have no FAITH in any positive claim, you do. I'm not claiming anything you are.
Prove your mythology is better than any of the others. I don't subscribe to any mythology. I'm not the one who believes in magical bullshit that isn't supported by evidence. THAT'S the difference between us. Pray to THOR little man.
There's the problem: You have no subscription to anything POSITIVE. Therefore, in your ignorance, you are defending something you DON'T know is there, simply because there is no "proof". Your defense is that there is no PROOF. Open minds lead to new thoughts. Closed minds b become ignorant and dictatorial.
I have no subscriptions to anything positive? Yeah right. You're right, I don't know that there is no god, so prove to me yours is better than Thor or Odin or Zeus.
Or you can blather on again and ignore what I even wrote.
Believe me, I'm not ignoring what you wrote. It just makes no sense, because you only blather about me simply being wrong and debunking my resources as not being valid. If I am to believe your resources as a trusted source of reference, then, you should give mine the same consideration.
you call my belief "irrational"...I don't remember using that term with you. In fact, in this context, it is disrespectful to an intelligent conversation. It is inflammatory, and judgemental. Trust me, I'm not here to judge you, and whether you have "faith" or not is entirely up to you. But, again, mankind didn't just create itself, just as that computer you are typing on didn't create itself.
In one breath you claim that I insulted your intelligence and in the next you compare mankind to a computer. That old tired creationist/ID argument has been blown up already so quit using it. It is an ignorant argument. It really is dumb and no offense intended, but it's ridiculous.
You say that mankind was "created" just like a computer is. That's a simpleton argument. A computer was obviously designed, but that has nothing to do with a living organism because a living organism reproduces.
Now, I realize that evolution is not inherently intuitive so I wouldn't expect you to understand what I just said.
you don't think that man was designed? You don't think there is a thing as artificial intelligence? Have you never seen the implications of that kind of thing in "2001: A Space Odyssey"?
And you are still throwing insults at my intelligence. I wouldn't expect anything less from the likes of you.
Intelligence has arisen from simple origins, the evidence suggests this. How else would it arise? from something more ingelligence? then where did that intelligence come from?
No, there is a mountain of evidence that suggests man was not "designed". Not like you think anyway. Man was "designed" by natural forces with no intent.
and you were there to prove that statement? It amazes me how you have that much information. And, with what you just said, man being "designed" by natural forces with no intent, you are saying we are useless? We are not even a simple attempt, what with our conscious mind, to make good to one another? You don't consider the same "natural force" that created the computer (MAN) could somehow lead back to the same "Natural force" that created man?
so, in your last comment, with your insulting barb, you are saying that I'm not intuitive? Well, I can type, I can read, I can think, and I can feel. I can see, I can reason. Again, you prove my point that atheists argue with insults and barbs.
But you have not proven that you will toss aside your desires just to know what really happened. You have proven that you will believe what you want to because it's cozy.
Doesn't that comfort blanket feel a little flimsy at times? Get real Harve!
and I'm NOT going to toss aside my desires to know what really happened. I happen to believe in the evolutionary theory. I also happen to believe that the earth wasn't created in 7 days...but I DO believe there was a purpose. That's the difference.
The logic of me insulting your intelligence and comparing mankind to a computer have nothing in common...so I don't get your point. And, I'm not aware of the creationist/ID argument being blown up at all. It's a valid argument. It's YOU that is blowing it up, if anyone is. And, and argument cannot be ignorant. Only people are ignorant. Arguments only make qualified statements, whether right or wrong, which can typically be proven by documentation. There is documentation to my faith.
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I never claimed to know how old the universe is. Nor did I claim to know how it was created. I only know that, since WE, as mankind, created computers, WE as mankind have created cures for certain illnesses, that WE were given a GIFT by someone or something in a higher power. Man has created so many things...and we didn't get that infinite wisdom without someone or something allowing us to have it...just as man has programmed a computer to work for us. We have been allowed this privilege.
Harve, we created cures for illnesses before we made computers. and we created these things through this man made creation called science. Don't call that god, WE DID IT ON OUR OWN.
Man also created the abacus, the calendar, and the spinning wheel...but these things were created for the better good of mankind....I actually thank whatever higher being out there that gave us the intelligence to be able to do so, and in the process, let us rise above the more lowly creatures such as dog, cats, slugs, and monkeys...
I just said it: because MAN created the abacus, the calendar, and the spinning wheel...when was the last time a new car was created by a dog, a cat, a slug, or a monkey?
ANY man CAN create the calendar, abacus, or spinning wheel: He has to have the education, the drive, and the determination. We don't know how MAN came about because WE were created for a PURPOSE: To take care of the things we were given, including all life around us.
so, you are an uncaring, thing without emotion that can kill one of your own for food? You care nothing about your neighbors well-being or safety? If a child were to run out in front of a car and you were to see it, would you not try to save that child before he/she were run over?
By the way, I never mentioned the bible in any one of my responses...so why did you?
The fact that we care and are altruistic is NO proof at all that we were created for a "purpose". It means those traits were favorable to our survival.
Please don't tell me you aren't a bible thumper. I bet you do believe in Jesus.
you never mention altruism, in which is also hard to prove, for that matter: Who does ANYTHING without needing any kind of reward, PERIOD. THAT is TRUE altruism. If you are so "altruistic", then you will realize that, in the process of doing a good deed, you may be seeking a reward. Where does that reward come from? Karma? Which is deeply rooted in SOME religion....explain it to me, please?
if you can put up and post nonsense such as what you have here, with the ability for the general public to post responses and have an intelligent conversation about said nonsense, then I'll continue to post to this site. Just because we don't agree with someone or something doesn't mean that anyone is wrong. Why did you post the video in the first place?
Harve, I DID mention altruism, look up about 4 replies from this one.
I think we all are altruistic to some extent. The reward is feeling good and that's it. From an evolutionary perspective, the reward is a stronger community which is essential for human survival, at least it used to be.
I also noticed how many atheists respond to my comments as opposed to those regarding other general questions. Who, then, spends more time defending themselves and trying to disprove what the majority believes?
I was wondering who you were calling the majority! And, there you go, proving my point in calling names and getting all defensive, when you made the comment about appealing to the majority in the first place...the majority ARE believers...NOT atheists.
I never told you to appeal to the majority. If the majority are believers, I find it strange that "The Majority" blindly believe in a deity simply because they were told to. Why would you believe it? What use is it?
I find it rely funny when people said Nietzsche influenced hitler to do what he did along with Darwinism. Creationist dont seem to realise that Nietzsche was an anti- Darwinist and Hittler a creationist
oh, hell...I was a fool...I took a look at the "flying spaghetti monster" thing...it was a parody invented in 2005 for/against religion...and that's a solid basis for an argument based on whether a deity exists or not? For CHRIST'S SAKE!!!...so much for YOUR documentation.
People trying to tie Nietzsche with Nazi Germany with a ridiculous slipper slope, another fallacy. Nietzsche called for those Sovereign Individuals, freed from the tether of christian dogma, to take their place as rulers as a natural progression of humanity. He did not call for genocide, or even enslavement of the masses. He did not believe the Ayrians were special. However, his sister was a racist and perverted his writings, and the Nazis went over the top.
What am I sick of? christians talking about Nietzsche's manner of death, as if they are presenting a valid argument against Nietzsche's writings. When will they realize the futility of their ad hominem attacks?
Free yourself from slave morality! Find your own moral code, not as a slave to some categorical imperitive, but as a sovereign individual who is master over his or her own moral actions.
y'know...the only context I've heard the use of "ad hominem attack" has been from an atheist. "Ad hominem" is from Latin...a dead language, even though most romantic languages are based on Latin. It is an"argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim." Atheists are excellent at being hypocrites.
key word in your argument..."SPOKE Latin"...past tense...WHO speaks Latin NOW as a native language? And what does that have to do with a debate on whether a deity exists or not?...OH...let's see: there's proof it existed. There's proof people, places, and things existed in the Bible, so SOME historical accuracy is allowed for the book.
He meant that the word "Romantic" literally means "from rome". You just freaked out because he was trying to inform you.
And there's proof that things and places in the bible happened and existed, but that's not proof of anything regarding your God. If the Bible is all the evidence for God you have, then you need to quit being Christian, because there are so many fallacies in the Bible it's impossible for an objective reader to take it seriously.
In today's parlance, "ad hominem" refers to attacking the person instead of arguing the idea. Nietzsche died of tertiary syphillis, therefore his arguments are invalid. Not logical. Thomas Aquanis was obese, therefore his arguments are invalid. Also not logical. etc, etc.
I saw this on some other channel, I don't think inducing photosensitive seizures is a good way to argue a point... just go and read some Neitzsche, Stirner, or Schopenhauer.
Yes, it is cute. I frist saw it written on a blackboard as I walked into an empty classroom many years ago.
God may not be real, but is much more influential than just about anyone. So much so, that it doesn't seem quite true to say he is not real. How can something so not real effect so much.
Yep- centuries of it! So what is it about the human mind that seems to create a God, no matter what culture or time. I have never heard of a culture that did not have a god- What is the need!
so, you either want to "form" a culture that doesn't have a deity, or you are simply outnumbered. Nor do I know of any culture that has no god...most have faith in a higher being...regardless of what Nietsche thought, what you think or anyone else thinks for that matter.The NEED you want to know about is the FAITH that there is something better than where we are, that we ALL have a purpose here. Whoever it was that gave you the ability to QUESTION created a CONSCIOUS MIND for YOU and YOU ALONE.
* Buddhism is basically atheistic. So are many other minoritarian "religions".
* As far as we know, we are the only beings capable of giving *meaning* to other things. If you want your life to have meaning, just look for it, don't ask to the first snake-oil seller that crosses your path.
* "Whoever it was" is an awful loaded queston. The correct (more general) question is asking *how* is it that we have a conscious mind. Asking for *who* implies the answer.
*Maybe* the answer to "HOW is it that we have a complex mind?" is "because it's an emerging physical property". If so, how does a "WHO" fit into this answer?
You see, for many of us it's better to stay inquiring than to pretend you have an answer when you obviously don't.
Even the most religious, Christian, religiously convicted of us are inquiring. I don't pretend to have an answer ( but religious zealots do, and I know a few of them, as well)...I don't have a direct line to ANY God, but I have FAITH in a Higher Being. Pretending to have faith is as pretentious as trying to convince others you have a convincing argument of your own. The difference is I can see who YOU are through what YOU are saying in your obviously biased argument. Documentation is THERE.
You have faith in a higher being, but that means you are convinced already, and irrationally so. You're denying the possibility that there is no higher being out there, dismissing it entirely out of hand. That's the truly unreasonable position, slightly moreso than someone who believes there is no higher power (and equally unreasonable to someone who claims to know there is none).
Fact is, no-one knows, so the rational thing to do is to not commit to an answer until we do know for sure.
I disagree that not believing in god is unreasonable. Not believing in something should be the default position. You don't believe in zues or unicorns, etc... unless good evidence has been presented.
I think what you've confused is claims of knowledge versus belief. I don't believe gods exist but I don't claim to KNOW that gods don't exist, it's possible but there isn't any evidence so I don't believe it's true
Theists often both believe and claim to KNOW god exists, that's unreasonable
Nobody does Christian bashing like Nietzsche. Nice music and voice btw.
Ranlic 1 month ago
Nietzsche is shit. In 2000 years people will think of him as an idiot and a slimeball. Moral degenerate, psychopath. It's *degenerating* the human race, the low-lives are multiplying. Just like everything is upside down, so does he corrupt and degenerate humanity. ..And I don't just mean WW2...
WlKlNG 1 month ago
@WlKlNG P 1 ''hepatitis '' Ehh yeah reading him will give you illness... That is the most stupidest crap I have ever read. And for your knowlage it is philosophy that has defined the scientific method. Now Nietzsche hade nothing to do with WW2 or nazism. In fact he hated anti-semnitism. His nazi sister abused and alterd him for the nazis.
Nietzsche argued that morality and meaning to life are subjective. And yes he argued that absolute truth is inposible and you know what I agree. And
Eopyk 1 month ago
@WlKlNG P 2 so does many scientist like John Von Newman.
Nietzsche did not argue against science mind you.
Eopyk 1 month ago
@WlKlNG you sir are retarded, ww2 had nothing to do with nietzsche good job jumping the mainstream boat
Kep0v 3 weeks ago
Truth exists, truth is objective, just like the sun and the fact that the earth revolves around it not vice versa and if you think THAT's not true... then u need help. Even Fred couldn't argue his way out of that one.. didn't know enough physics... he only knew Greek... and only if u finish physics or at least math.. then u can study philosophy.
WlKlNG 1 month ago
Stick to science kids. S. Hawking says philosophers are idiots. Nieche will only give u hepatitis or worse - syhpilis and then u will be in a world of shit. Do your math homework. Do ur best and dont listen to this shit. it will make u a total slimy asshole incapable of achieving anything. Only a handful of people ever achieve anything with nietzsches help and they are all out-of-date now.
WlKlNG 1 month ago
I just wonder about all the lives his books ruined. Not to mention the wars.
WlKlNG 1 month ago
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WlKlNG 1 month ago
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WlKlNG 1 month ago
superman.... everything is subjective?? maybe the sun is subjective too and the curvature of the earth is merely a phenomenon when it's really flat.. because I say so.. and if I say it. than that's how it is...
WlKlNG 1 month ago
@WlKlNG Well what you see is a representation of the world made by your neurobiological structure. That is like colours they are only the representation of light frequencies by your brain. They do not exist but they are the phenomina we experience.
Morality does not exist objectivly nor does meaning
Eopyk 1 month ago
pow pow.. have u been dazzled yet??? are u eating from the gutter already?? Of course not, you're too smart for thAt!! muhahahahhaaaa. wanna go to jail? u can. He was a sophist. He just talked a lot of shit and turned everyting upside down... and u bought it..
WlKlNG 1 month ago
@WlKlNG No he was not sophist. His thoughts laid many of the foundations of existentialism.
All your doing is strawmaning him
Eopyk 1 month ago
He probably got touched by some priest when he was little. so he wrote this shit. Then again.. people deserve it.
WlKlNG 1 month ago
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WlKlNG 1 month ago
2011
/watch?v=R7XH3hgmCKU
turn me on dead mon
SuperMegaUberGenius 2 months ago
well, but where is the difference between thoose christians and muslims ?
i cant see one, both are kabbalistic occult shits.
DerErwecker 3 months ago
Hmm want to know what I just heard?
Take the mark of the beasts, slaves. Obey. Power. Evil = Good. Hitler approves of Nietzsche. The Antichrist also approves of this message. The Government approves of this message.
TrunkMonkey3000 4 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 Hitler did not aprove of Nietzsche. He hated anti-semnitism and nationalism. His sister was a nazi and she abused his works for her ends.
Eopyk 3 months ago
@Eopyk The fact is much of Hitler's philosophy aligns perfectly with Nietzsche. Take for example, Hitler tried to recreate the idea of an ancient master race of Aryans, which had its occult and Satanic roots. Nietzsche wrote of the Ubermensch (spelling) a master race of humans, wrote about in Nietzsche's Satanic books, the Antichrist. Hitler was an antichrist - we all know this. Nietzsche wrote extensively of the Antichrist in his books, one of which was called The Antichrist.
TrunkMonkey3000 3 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 No Nietzsches übermensch is not about a ancient master race. The übermench is someone who shapes his own values and lives after them and who shapes there own meaning to life and shapes reality after his or her own wil and founds there own morals nothing to do with ''race''l . Nietzsche is one of the founder of Nihiliesm and existentialism. You must read more and assume less.
Eopyk 3 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 A user quoted this in another comment section,
"...the anti-Semites...are...men of resentment, these physiologically impaired and worm-eaten men, a totally quivering earthly kingdom of subterranean revenge, inexhaustible, insatiable in its outbursts against the fortunate...there could be no greater and more fateful misunderstanding than if...the fortunate, the successful, the powerful in body and spirit should start to doubt their right to happiness." -- Genealogy of Morals
Eopyk 3 months ago
You also said he hated anti-semnitism , I don't know who you mean by he though, but I'm assuming you're talking about Nietzsche. Anyways, Nietzsche had a profound hatred for the works of Jesus Christ - and also the church. The only two commandments Jesus gave were love God with all of your heart, and love your fellow human with all of your heart. The teachings of Jesus were based 100% on the Jewish people, and their religion. It's a fascinating subject, I would love to talk more about it.
TrunkMonkey3000 3 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 He hated nazism because he hated nationalism and anti-semnitism. And no he did not hate Jesus he hated if anyone Paul.
Jesus was no big problem in his book.
Eopyk 3 months ago
I read Friedrich Nietzsche when I was 20 years old. lol....Zarathustra
SorBill07 5 months ago
*epilepsy warning*
Mafiaaffe 7 months ago
I couldn't put it better myself....lol
poolstic63 7 months ago
Nietzsche is a huge inspiration in my life. Truly a genious at phylosophy.
kamikasedude 10 months ago
@kamikasedude too bad he didnt inspire your spelling..lmao....I agree with your opinion though
361marines507 5 months ago
The will to power is the most powerfull thing in the universe.....
The philosophy of the future
SiegmundHildebrand 10 months ago
@SiegmundHildebrand But the Will to Power was not his work per se. Elizabeth had altered it to fit the Nazi propaganda machine. Beyond Good and Evil, to me had more of an impact.
WingZero75 9 months ago
LOL ITS PARTY TIME I WANNA HEAR THIS IN DA CLUB!!!1ONE1
jerk4990 1 year ago
A very influential and intelligent individual was Nietzsche.
industrymonkey 1 year ago
I wish I was the Antichrist. Except I wouldn't want to kill everyone, just religion.
MirageScience 1 year ago
Nietzsche's indictement of Christianity is not anti-christ nor is it anti-god, Christianity is not the religion of Jesus aka Christ Micheal but the religion of Paul.
Jesus would never be a christian, perhaps a Hare Krsna or a Buddhist, definetely not a fundamentalist Christian ; )
PS: Nietzsche is not God, and You're an even lesser monkey in space for suggesting so.
NassimHarameinVedas 1 year ago 4
@NassimHarameinVedas In a few words Christianity is a huge mistake that shouldn't never existed, just as Judaism ect...just a thought!
BigBrother187 1 year ago
@NassimHarameinVedas I he was not against God why did he say God(s) was Dead?
commonberus1 1 year ago
@commonberus1 He was talking about religions role in society was being nullified, he was talking about god in a figurative sense.
CriticalThought09 1 year ago
@commonberus1 "God is dead"----With this he meant that he died because certain people stoped believing.On the other hand at first comes the existence and then the "end".So a never existing guy can't die.If there was a god it was Nietzsche.
agonoszonmaga 10 months ago
nietzsche.. beautiful simply beautiful..
mmmodafoca 1 year ago 2
Nietsche is dead, and he went out insane.
And no, he did not come back.
checkmate? xD
RZrecklezz 1 year ago
@RZrecklezz Your point is exactly what?
BigBrother187 1 year ago
Burtrand Russell, in his essay 'Cosmic Purpose', claims that Hitler's ideals came mainly from Nietzsche. I also remember reading something similiar from another sourse but I cannot recall where.
Anyone who has read Nietzshe's works -and not just quotes- will know enough not to blame him for National Socialism.
need2understand 1 year ago
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eighart 1 year ago 3
magnificent book,denounces christianity in particular,but is sympathetic to budhism.
666thunderheart 2 years ago
Every half-wit who tries to associate Nietzsche with Nazism needs an education. In several of his books, he denounces antisemitism and nationalism (he actually fell out with Wagner over these issues).
Kynos1 2 years ago 7
your right, besides it was his sister who wanted to make a name for her brother who invoked nietzsche's work to the nazi party.. not nietzsche himself.. why don't people ever do research?
mmmodafoca 1 year ago
@Kynos1
I will never get that, he blasts Germany in so many passages. Saw somewhere a great quote saying that anyone who fell into the nationalistic movement should be held with cold contempt. Wish he would come back from the dead and run this country.
justinpcannon1 3 months ago
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Great quotes from Nietzsche, but the flashing has got to go. I couldn't even watch it, it was so annoying.
EllisRonn 2 years ago
One of Nietzsche's best works(also one of his last).
mrfilmnoir68 2 years ago 4
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Not true at all. I'd have my brains blown out within one week of being president...and I'm a Christian. Still think your world is run by Christians?
or ever was?What are people on?
That's alot of christians in hell, must be
because you didn't clean out the curruption.
TV info-mercial Christians you guys are mad at..
Real Christians like me suffer and got no friends. We stand for something and call out curruption.
When i walk outside i expect to be assassinated!
Who can say that here?
stoleninfo 2 years ago
@stoleninfo
illusions of grandieur, much?
infectingthecrypts 2 years ago
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Nietzsche is Dead.
God
Shazoolo 2 years ago
Nietzsche is god
piojin87 2 years ago 27
my friend,welcome to our circle.may we dance and sing hymns of power and joy in the name of the great seer,the master nietzsche
ajithsr07 1 year ago
@piojin87
Nietzsche was not a god and suggesting as much is frivolous of you.
At best, Nietzsche might be at best considered one of the "Overmen" of his age.
GnosticAgnostic 1 year ago 7
The charges stand.
Guilty.
Next case.
turkeyburgers 2 years ago 25
@turkeyburgers
dont know if jail could hold a ghost
kaoslife2386 1 year ago
its gotten quiet in here.
WlKlNG 2 years ago
i know exactly what nitsche was about. He was a logician.
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SHITCAKES4U 2 years ago
Nietzsche died in 1900, but WW1 began in1914, the Nazi party was formed in 1919. Everything you write is wrong.
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SHITCAKES4U 2 years ago
Just read Beyond Good & Evil §251, for example (on anti-semitism). You're just wrong.
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i spit on his grave....
WlKlNG 2 years ago
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syphilitic sociopath.
WlKlNG 2 years ago
"When Christianity departed from its native soil, that of the lowest orders, the underworld of the ancient world, and began seeking power among barbarian peoples, it no longer had to deal with exhausted men, but with men still inwardly savage and capable of self-torture—in brief, strong men, but bungled men.... torture in all its forms, whether bodily or not; the whole pomp of the cult."
- section 22 (my favorite passage!)
mrtracysmith 2 years ago 2
section 22 of what that is you favorite passage? Is that a Psalm or a quotation by someone else?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Simply because the fact that you are arguing there is NOT a "God" of ANY type means that you are acknowledging the fact that someone believes in a God...you are so busy trying to prove the point that there isn't a God, you don't realize it. THAT makes you a hypocrite...arguing about something that is right in front of you. You can't see the forest for the trees.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
You make no sense whatsoever. Because he acknowledges that someone believes in god and because he is "busy trying to prove" there's no god, he therefore doesn't realize god's real?
Nice reasoning, but you're obviously indoctrinated, so your reasoning in this area will be seriously hamstrung.
engiskhan 2 years ago 2
why is it that when I say something that has a deliberate intention of making you think that any one of the atheists say "you make no sense"? This is what appalls me. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean that my logic has no sense. There are others that agree with my logic. Even THEY make sense to someone...and "you make no sense" is NOT a valid reference when you haven't proven how I make no sense. See, we're talking in circles now....and that is INFINITE.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Because there is no logic behind what you're saying. It's all emotional bullshit. What separates your mythology from the Greek mythologies? Explain this Harve, there is NO difference. You are no more enlightened at this moment than any Greek who believed in Zeus.
engiskhan 2 years ago 3
and what makes YOUR convictions any more valid than mine? Atheists and Christians will always have this "impass" at any time. My so-called "mythology" isn't much different than the Greeks, the Mayans, or any other culture in that EVERY culture throughout history has ALWAYS worshipped SOMETHING. This isn't an argument on right or wrong, it's an argument based on FAITH...YOU have faith there is NOTHING, I have faith there IS.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
What a crock of shit, I have no FAITH in any positive claim, you do. I'm not claiming anything you are.
Prove your mythology is better than any of the others. I don't subscribe to any mythology. I'm not the one who believes in magical bullshit that isn't supported by evidence. THAT'S the difference between us. Pray to THOR little man.
engiskhan 2 years ago 2
There's the problem: You have no subscription to anything POSITIVE. Therefore, in your ignorance, you are defending something you DON'T know is there, simply because there is no "proof". Your defense is that there is no PROOF. Open minds lead to new thoughts. Closed minds b become ignorant and dictatorial.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
I have no subscriptions to anything positive? Yeah right. You're right, I don't know that there is no god, so prove to me yours is better than Thor or Odin or Zeus.
Or you can blather on again and ignore what I even wrote.
engiskhan 2 years ago
Believe me, I'm not ignoring what you wrote. It just makes no sense, because you only blather about me simply being wrong and debunking my resources as not being valid. If I am to believe your resources as a trusted source of reference, then, you should give mine the same consideration.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Also, my belief system is the ABSENCE of faith. Yours requires irrational belief (faith) that is no different than a child's belief in Santa Claus.
engiskhan 2 years ago 2
you call my belief "irrational"...I don't remember using that term with you. In fact, in this context, it is disrespectful to an intelligent conversation. It is inflammatory, and judgemental. Trust me, I'm not here to judge you, and whether you have "faith" or not is entirely up to you. But, again, mankind didn't just create itself, just as that computer you are typing on didn't create itself.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
In one breath you claim that I insulted your intelligence and in the next you compare mankind to a computer. That old tired creationist/ID argument has been blown up already so quit using it. It is an ignorant argument. It really is dumb and no offense intended, but it's ridiculous.
engiskhan 2 years ago
a bit defensive, huh?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
You say that mankind was "created" just like a computer is. That's a simpleton argument. A computer was obviously designed, but that has nothing to do with a living organism because a living organism reproduces.
Now, I realize that evolution is not inherently intuitive so I wouldn't expect you to understand what I just said.
engiskhan 2 years ago
you don't think that man was designed? You don't think there is a thing as artificial intelligence? Have you never seen the implications of that kind of thing in "2001: A Space Odyssey"?
And you are still throwing insults at my intelligence. I wouldn't expect anything less from the likes of you.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Intelligence has arisen from simple origins, the evidence suggests this. How else would it arise? from something more ingelligence? then where did that intelligence come from?
We're far from perfect. We have many flaws.
engiskhan 2 years ago
No, there is a mountain of evidence that suggests man was not "designed". Not like you think anyway. Man was "designed" by natural forces with no intent.
engiskhan 2 years ago 4
and you were there to prove that statement? It amazes me how you have that much information. And, with what you just said, man being "designed" by natural forces with no intent, you are saying we are useless? We are not even a simple attempt, what with our conscious mind, to make good to one another? You don't consider the same "natural force" that created the computer (MAN) could somehow lead back to the same "Natural force" that created man?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
so, in your last comment, with your insulting barb, you are saying that I'm not intuitive? Well, I can type, I can read, I can think, and I can feel. I can see, I can reason. Again, you prove my point that atheists argue with insults and barbs.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
But you have not proven that you will toss aside your desires just to know what really happened. You have proven that you will believe what you want to because it's cozy.
Doesn't that comfort blanket feel a little flimsy at times? Get real Harve!
engiskhan 2 years ago
and I'm NOT going to toss aside my desires to know what really happened. I happen to believe in the evolutionary theory. I also happen to believe that the earth wasn't created in 7 days...but I DO believe there was a purpose. That's the difference.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
The logic of me insulting your intelligence and comparing mankind to a computer have nothing in common...so I don't get your point. And, I'm not aware of the creationist/ID argument being blown up at all. It's a valid argument. It's YOU that is blowing it up, if anyone is. And, and argument cannot be ignorant. Only people are ignorant. Arguments only make qualified statements, whether right or wrong, which can typically be proven by documentation. There is documentation to my faith.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Creationism is pure junk Harve. Come on now, do you really believe the earth and universe are 6000 years old? Do you REALLY believe that?
engiskhan 2 years ago 3
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I never claimed to know how old the universe is. Nor did I claim to know how it was created. I only know that, since WE, as mankind, created computers, WE as mankind have created cures for certain illnesses, that WE were given a GIFT by someone or something in a higher power. Man has created so many things...and we didn't get that infinite wisdom without someone or something allowing us to have it...just as man has programmed a computer to work for us. We have been allowed this privilege.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Harve, we created cures for illnesses before we made computers. and we created these things through this man made creation called science. Don't call that god, WE DID IT ON OUR OWN.
engiskhan 2 years ago 5
Man also created the abacus, the calendar, and the spinning wheel...but these things were created for the better good of mankind....I actually thank whatever higher being out there that gave us the intelligence to be able to do so, and in the process, let us rise above the more lowly creatures such as dog, cats, slugs, and monkeys...
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
How are dogs, cats, slugs and monkeys, "more lowly"?
engiskhan 2 years ago
I just said it: because MAN created the abacus, the calendar, and the spinning wheel...when was the last time a new car was created by a dog, a cat, a slug, or a monkey?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
So can any MAN create a calendar abacus or spinning wheel? those things are the result of science a man-made creation. How did man come about?
engiskhan 2 years ago
ANY man CAN create the calendar, abacus, or spinning wheel: He has to have the education, the drive, and the determination. We don't know how MAN came about because WE were created for a PURPOSE: To take care of the things we were given, including all life around us.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Wow, so our purpose is to take care of the life around us? That's a little arrogant isn't it?
Where is your proof that we were created with a purpose Harve? And if you bring up the bible, how do you know it's the right one?
engiskhan 2 years ago
so, you are an uncaring, thing without emotion that can kill one of your own for food? You care nothing about your neighbors well-being or safety? If a child were to run out in front of a car and you were to see it, would you not try to save that child before he/she were run over?
By the way, I never mentioned the bible in any one of my responses...so why did you?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
The fact that we care and are altruistic is NO proof at all that we were created for a "purpose". It means those traits were favorable to our survival.
Please don't tell me you aren't a bible thumper. I bet you do believe in Jesus.
engiskhan 2 years ago
by the way: you never answered my questions about looking out for your neighbor, the neighbors kids or caring about one another...why?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
I did answer your question. You're talking about altruism which I said is no proof or purpose or a maker.
engiskhan 2 years ago
you never mention altruism, in which is also hard to prove, for that matter: Who does ANYTHING without needing any kind of reward, PERIOD. THAT is TRUE altruism. If you are so "altruistic", then you will realize that, in the process of doing a good deed, you may be seeking a reward. Where does that reward come from? Karma? Which is deeply rooted in SOME religion....explain it to me, please?
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Ontologistics 2 years ago
wdharveyoicu: stop polluting my video space with your nonsense.
Ontologistics 2 years ago
if you can put up and post nonsense such as what you have here, with the ability for the general public to post responses and have an intelligent conversation about said nonsense, then I'll continue to post to this site. Just because we don't agree with someone or something doesn't mean that anyone is wrong. Why did you post the video in the first place?
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Harve, I DID mention altruism, look up about 4 replies from this one.
I think we all are altruistic to some extent. The reward is feeling good and that's it. From an evolutionary perspective, the reward is a stronger community which is essential for human survival, at least it used to be.
engiskhan 2 years ago
Quote of the day.
"We don't know how MAN came about because WE were created for a PURPOSE:"
therock27374 2 years ago
I also noticed how many atheists respond to my comments as opposed to those regarding other general questions. Who, then, spends more time defending themselves and trying to disprove what the majority believes?
I kind of like this... ;-)
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
I'm sure you do!
therock27374 2 years ago
Another gem.
"and I'm NOT going to toss aside my desires to know what really happened"
therock27374 2 years ago
Precisely the reason for atheists responding to your nonsensical ideas is because so many people believe in them. Do I detect an appeal to majority?
j01tz0r 2 years ago
Atheists are not the majority.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
No shit? Go look "appeal to majority" so you can understand what I was saying, retard
j01tz0r 2 years ago
The majority are retards?
o0hedphuq0o 2 years ago
I was wondering who you were calling the majority! And, there you go, proving my point in calling names and getting all defensive, when you made the comment about appealing to the majority in the first place...the majority ARE believers...NOT atheists.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
I never told you to appeal to the majority. If the majority are believers, I find it strange that "The Majority" blindly believe in a deity simply because they were told to. Why would you believe it? What use is it?
o0hedphuq0o 2 years ago
"The Hammer" strikes again!
1imax111 2 years ago 2
I find it rely funny when people said Nietzsche influenced hitler to do what he did along with Darwinism. Creationist dont seem to realise that Nietzsche was an anti- Darwinist and Hittler a creationist
Chill197 2 years ago
Was an amazing book.
KhanSlayer 2 years ago 2
I could not look at it. It hurt my eyes too much!
JRChadwick 2 years ago
I gave up after the second seizure.
Cab0cl0 2 years ago
LOL, Hitler sure have hated Christianity since the Roman Church always demanded tribute! He was honest enough to tell the works of hypocrites.
pr1v13 2 years ago
Like your vids. Can't stand the Nietzsche series though. Flash is too annoying.
supersoulfly 2 years ago
Ontologistics has allowed me to make a non-flash version. See my channel.
VelcroBanana 2 years ago
I loved this book.
jack19790 2 years ago
Besides the freak out factor I love it...
VelcroBanana 2 years ago
oh, hell...I was a fool...I took a look at the "flying spaghetti monster" thing...it was a parody invented in 2005 for/against religion...and that's a solid basis for an argument based on whether a deity exists or not? For CHRIST'S SAKE!!!...so much for YOUR documentation.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
what's the point of the flashing?
Uberhilarious 2 years ago
What the fuck is the fucking bitch talking about. I would like to punch him im the face right now.
BlaZ1nUp 2 years ago
wow that's some great christian like behavior blaz
blueeyez357 2 years ago
well said
tiberux 2 years ago
What else am I sick of?
People trying to tie Nietzsche with Nazi Germany with a ridiculous slipper slope, another fallacy. Nietzsche called for those Sovereign Individuals, freed from the tether of christian dogma, to take their place as rulers as a natural progression of humanity. He did not call for genocide, or even enslavement of the masses. He did not believe the Ayrians were special. However, his sister was a racist and perverted his writings, and the Nazis went over the top.
ZombieCobain 2 years ago
What am I sick of? christians talking about Nietzsche's manner of death, as if they are presenting a valid argument against Nietzsche's writings. When will they realize the futility of their ad hominem attacks?
Free yourself from slave morality! Find your own moral code, not as a slave to some categorical imperitive, but as a sovereign individual who is master over his or her own moral actions.
ZombieCobain 2 years ago
y'know...the only context I've heard the use of "ad hominem attack" has been from an atheist. "Ad hominem" is from Latin...a dead language, even though most romantic languages are based on Latin. It is an"argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim." Atheists are excellent at being hypocrites.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
...all Romantic languages are based on Latin. Hence the term "romantic"...as in "from Rome"...where they spoke Latin.
VolatileChemical 2 years ago
key word in your argument..."SPOKE Latin"...past tense...WHO speaks Latin NOW as a native language? And what does that have to do with a debate on whether a deity exists or not?...OH...let's see: there's proof it existed. There's proof people, places, and things existed in the Bible, so SOME historical accuracy is allowed for the book.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
He meant that the word "Romantic" literally means "from rome". You just freaked out because he was trying to inform you.
And there's proof that things and places in the bible happened and existed, but that's not proof of anything regarding your God. If the Bible is all the evidence for God you have, then you need to quit being Christian, because there are so many fallacies in the Bible it's impossible for an objective reader to take it seriously.
Alpha1Bravo1Charlie1 2 years ago
In today's parlance, "ad hominem" refers to attacking the person instead of arguing the idea. Nietzsche died of tertiary syphillis, therefore his arguments are invalid. Not logical. Thomas Aquanis was obese, therefore his arguments are invalid. Also not logical. etc, etc.
ZombieCobain 2 years ago
you are making absolutely no sense. How did what you said lead you to conclude that atheists are hypocrites?
TheSoSoAgnostic 2 years ago
any one read his madness letters he was insane
Chill197 2 years ago
fuck, my eyes!
FishApprentice 2 years ago
What's with the flash warning?
awsutherland 2 years ago
the flashing off the movie may harm people with epilepsy
theq68 2 years ago
and that is why it says***FLASH WARNING***
styrmirr86 2 years ago
Can you read?
awsutherland: What's with the flash warning?
theq69 : the flashing off the movie may harm people with epilepsy
theq68 2 years ago
Nah, it's just that those people have demons.
OpenHuman 2 years ago
It is a pity that Friedrich Nietzsche isn't alive to debate people like Rick Warren and Dinesh D'Souza.
whimsicaljoss 2 years ago
(After 2min I fall over and have a seizure...)
InfectedDaemon 2 years ago 3
there's probably some subliminal message tied into that video...
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
What, like Christianity sucks?
Alpha1Bravo1Charlie1 2 years ago
The audio was great, but I couldnt watch the video (headache)
FreudsCigar 2 years ago
I saw this on some other channel, I don't think inducing photosensitive seizures is a good way to argue a point... just go and read some Neitzsche, Stirner, or Schopenhauer.
fauyd 2 years ago
"God is dead" - Nietzsche
"NIETZSCHE IS DEAD!"- GOD
bentlybently 2 years ago
That's pretty cute. It gave me a chuckle even though Nietzsche was real and God isn't.
turtle2hug 2 years ago
Yes, it is cute. I frist saw it written on a blackboard as I walked into an empty classroom many years ago.
God may not be real, but is much more influential than just about anyone. So much so, that it doesn't seem quite true to say he is not real. How can something so not real effect so much.
bentlybently 2 years ago
Centuries and centuries of oppression.
turtle2hug 2 years ago 2
Yep- centuries of it! So what is it about the human mind that seems to create a God, no matter what culture or time. I have never heard of a culture that did not have a god- What is the need!
bentlybently 2 years ago
Population control was the continual appeal.
turtle2hug 2 years ago
so, you either want to "form" a culture that doesn't have a deity, or you are simply outnumbered. Nor do I know of any culture that has no god...most have faith in a higher being...regardless of what Nietsche thought, what you think or anyone else thinks for that matter.The NEED you want to know about is the FAITH that there is something better than where we are, that we ALL have a purpose here. Whoever it was that gave you the ability to QUESTION created a CONSCIOUS MIND for YOU and YOU ALONE.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Wrong questions, wrong answers.
* Buddhism is basically atheistic. So are many other minoritarian "religions".
* As far as we know, we are the only beings capable of giving *meaning* to other things. If you want your life to have meaning, just look for it, don't ask to the first snake-oil seller that crosses your path.
* "Whoever it was" is an awful loaded queston. The correct (more general) question is asking *how* is it that we have a conscious mind. Asking for *who* implies the answer.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago 2
Can you answer the "HOW"? If you can, then you can answer the WHO.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
Do your parents know you're a homosexual midget?
Kamaka675 2 years ago 2
Not really.
*Maybe* the answer to "HOW is it that we have a complex mind?" is "because it's an emerging physical property". If so, how does a "WHO" fit into this answer?
You see, for many of us it's better to stay inquiring than to pretend you have an answer when you obviously don't.
JennyFarlopez 2 years ago 3
Even the most religious, Christian, religiously convicted of us are inquiring. I don't pretend to have an answer ( but religious zealots do, and I know a few of them, as well)...I don't have a direct line to ANY God, but I have FAITH in a Higher Being. Pretending to have faith is as pretentious as trying to convince others you have a convincing argument of your own. The difference is I can see who YOU are through what YOU are saying in your obviously biased argument. Documentation is THERE.
wdharveyoicu 2 years ago
You have faith in a higher being, but that means you are convinced already, and irrationally so. You're denying the possibility that there is no higher being out there, dismissing it entirely out of hand. That's the truly unreasonable position, slightly moreso than someone who believes there is no higher power (and equally unreasonable to someone who claims to know there is none).
Fact is, no-one knows, so the rational thing to do is to not commit to an answer until we do know for sure.
EdwardHowton 2 years ago
I disagree that not believing in god is unreasonable. Not believing in something should be the default position. You don't believe in zues or unicorns, etc... unless good evidence has been presented.
I think what you've confused is claims of knowledge versus belief. I don't believe gods exist but I don't claim to KNOW that gods don't exist, it's possible but there isn't any evidence so I don't believe it's true
Theists often both believe and claim to KNOW god exists, that's unreasonable
dlandon2000 2 years ago 4
dlandon....your a smart man! Non belief SHOULD be the default untill further proof is noted
theentrepreneur2006 2 years ago