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  • Hi, im just wondering, have you tried this without using your hands?

  • Be Careful, Notice your Finger hiting the object befor a major movement, your controling the inviorment well, but your not moving the object much!!! watch your right hand, your finger will touch the metal object. :) im a stong beliver but you got to watch how close you are!!

  • I absolutely do nudge it with my right hand. That was deliberate. The objective of that is to break the object's inertia, then trying to manipulate its kinetic energy with TK. For larger objects I suggest prompting them physically at first then trying to control their movements after that.

  • @MacbethLondon that's actually a very good tip. it helps out alot. thank you!

  • @kittykawaiix3tr I'm glad you liked it. Hopefully more psions will manage to progress beyond the psiwheel. GL 

  • @MacbethLondon I have noticed that breaking the objects inertia 'can' help. But now I've practiced enough and never come to this problem. Great Video my friend

  • i tried tk today i managed to get a psi wheel to spin it was my first go + i could keep it spinning in the same direction for ages and at a good speed. Tk is real guys. skeptics honestly try it

  • no when you get bloody good at it you can move stuff from one end to the other. This is called the phy-wheel. You can also do spoon bending just with your mind. Search for different kinds.

  • I can't do these things so I can't comment on that. Some methods of cultivating chi apparently allow you to move

    heavier objects.

  • @MacbethLondon You shouldn't need to use any new method of cultivating chi because you just need to start with your baby steps and slowly move up with heavier objects using your same method. An example is: paper, tinfoil, thin cardboard, thicker cardboard, then..wood? I am working on thin cardboard.

  • well right now i think humans will develop more stronger senses of tk over there years another part of our brain that we dont use

  • fuck.. i wrote this huge comment and now its not posted :( I was talking about its good that you help people to learn this.. but they will have to understand that it might fail if they try it your way.. TK is personal, you will have to figure out your own way.

  • This video is a bit difficult to reproduce, the others aren't really. Anyone should be able to move a psiwheel or pendulum without much effort or practice. I agree we are all self taught in a way, but I learnt a lot from other psions. Sharing experiences really helps.

  • i own in tk... check my profile.. don't say its fake because its not

  • Why metal objects?

  • Why not? This one is quite difficult to do. I find plastics and ice work better.

  • show me something done with balsa wood

  • haaa why you touched it

    moving objets dont required anything

    less moving your hands around haha

  • Your right that you don't need hands but a lot of people like the cool factor of the hands. I don't use my hands when I practice but it looks cooler when you are doing it in front of your friends.

  • lol you sound stoned, good vid though

  • Not stoned. Just relaxed. LoL

  • This is news to me after doing this since 2007. Almost everytime there is the polarity issue..psiwheels tend to align in a certain position and stops in one place. It feels like I can stop inertia lol. Anyway well said Macbeth!!

  • Thanks Lucidess, It's nice getting feedback from respected psions such as yourself.

  • i believe the practice is futile, allthough it will yield results it is the long hard way to something you can otherwise do with a foundation of balance in yourself

  • Any system for learning to be psychic, will still show that you need practice if you want to get good. The common idea of practice can be misleading.

  • Is that a "card shield" for the back of the pc case? :)

  • That's exactly what it is. My brother told me after I had made the vid. LoL

  • Can you do the same under these conditions:

    The needle, or whatever you use must be close to the surface.

    Put bits of scattered paper across the surface.

    Use a wooden object.

  • Hi AC,

    I haven't tried this on wood before. I usually use ice, plastic, paper or metal for TK. Come to think of it, I can't think of many psions that use wood... It seems you are interested in magic tricks and illusions. That is not what this page is about... If you are interested in learning TK, build a psiwheel and start practicing. Let me know if you need any help. GL

  • I don't think that telekinesis is much more than tricks and illusions.

    Have you contacted JREF(James Randi Educational Foundation) yet?

  • I'm not interested in Randi nor in proving or disproving TK, nor will I get into the interminable debate on whether TK is real or not. Try it for yourself. If you can perform TK good for you. If you can't, that's too bad, stick to magic, which has its own merits. I used to doubt this stuff too. Don't take my word for it. Give it a try and reach your own conclusions.

  • If you don't want to apply for a million dollars, then fine.

    Telekinesis does not work. I have not in my lifetime saw any evidence of it working, and i doubt that i will.

    If it worked, then Mr. Randi would have given out his money way back.

  • Mr. Randi does not give out his money so easily.

  • A real psychic should have no problem in claiming the prize.

  • I would, but these kinds of demonstrations are not allowed.

  • No, you simply can't do it.

  • It is pretty reliable, but not "macro" enough for him.

  • He clearly states that he accepts any miracle.

  • I agree.

  • @AtheistChase Can you give me more information on Mr. Randi? Is the million dollar thing still going on?

  • @auroral A psiwheel will not win you Randi's prize. People have tried.

  • Hey ML Ive video replied with a psionic demonstration on wood I agree with the practice comment.

  • Heya foreva, a psiwheel will not win you the Randi prize. Some people have tried, but were very frustrated with the process. I guess their descriptions of their experiences, the fact that it's not a cash prize, etc put other people off. Personally, I have a real life and wouldn't put myself under

    media scrutiny for this. Although Randi has uncovered many frauds, he has also had a negative effect on parapsychology research, which is a shame.

  • yes and i agree. I wouldn't want public scrutiny either, not to mention certain dangers that may come with posesses knowledge of this sort. I mean seriously governments could weaponize this etc. I know my imagination is running wild now, but anyways thanks for answering. I will try it. The problem is I am never sure if its me or the wind. I have moved it a few times, disbelieved it, tried again and then it wouldn't budge. Anyways, keep making videos! They are very very helpful! Thanks!

  • Right. Careful about debunking yourself. Always test for false positives, but also allow yourself to believe and to progress. Whatever you are doing that makes a psiwheel move, keep doing it, without questioning the plausibility of the experience. Then move on to other things. Once you can move a covered psiwheel, you'll have overcome the belief problem and you'll be sure it wasn't the wind, or static or heat convection.

  • ok, so I don't mean to be rude or anything but why don't people who can do this stuff do the james randi contest thing where you win $1million if you prove telekinesis. I mean I guess I can think of many reasons, but I am just wondering about your personal reason. I know I personally wouldn't do it for reasons like the stress and criticism from people and stuff. You don't have to answer if you don't want but Im just wondering.

  • I always tell people to try this. Not the metal straight away, but a tin foil psiwheel. Don't take my word or Randi's word on this. Try for yourself. You may be surprised. I too was skeptical once. I thought it was static electricity. I tested that hypothesis and many others and realized something else was at work. I'm not alone in this. Look at my favorites. I believe most of the vids there are real. They were made by other psions many of whom I know and trust.

  • I agree the "connect" is part of the method that I use in fact it is the first thing I go for after settling my mind. While I agree the transmutation or focusing of available kinetic energy is more difficult there is enough kinetic energy in heat in a room to levitate a chair if it were focused leaving a temperature loss of one degree I wish I could remember the study. It was a purely hypothetical mathematical theory. but the numbers worked out. This my explain the poltergeist temp drop effect.

  • I have just tried to add a video response to demonstrate what I mean.

  • I saw you touch it,haha you can't move it.(-P

  • Yes, I did touch it. I recommend you give the object an initial push then try to control the movements after that. It is also possible to prompt the object mentally without touching it at all.

  • Do you think the initial inertia is helpful because it helps to activate/create an available pool of kinetic energy which your mind can then grasp increasing and decreasing as desired? This is a principle that I use in fan applications I was wondering if you agree or have a different opinion in regards to this application? Also this is a very good demonstration for anyone who is a psionics practitioner, kinetic acceleration above the initial kinetic energy inputted by the macro mechanical push.

  • I think you may have a point Ro. I agree with your interpretation of kinetic energy manipulation. But it is also possible to create the kinetic energy entirely, although this is more difficult (as in the covered psiwheel exercises). I find that breaking inertia tends to "unstick" the object somehow. There is also a question of affinity with certain objects. Are objects you practice with often easier to move than other objects? This tends to be the case with me.

  • Yes the longer I practice with a certain object shape color or image the easier it is for my mind to model the "energy construct" That I use as a visualization tool. Other times I don't use the visualization technique it depends on my mindset. It was definitely this way with the flame. This does not surprise me as a child simple and favorite shapes were easier to create and grasp when drawing as my trained vocabulary of shapes grew so did the complexity of the drawings so to it is with my pk.

  • I also agree that kinetic energy can be generated within a closed system however the process on the surface seems to be a little more involved. Do you think that the unsticking helps because it helps to loosen the adverse friction forces?

  • Hard to say. I have tested your kinetic energy hypothesis by giving the object an up and down nudge (vertical momentum) then manipulating the initial push to make the object spin (horizontal movement). Your theory seems to be correct. I guess the friction may be reduced, but in this exercise friction is very low anyway and doesn't seem to be the main obstacle. Generating energy from scratch is a lot more difficult, but not impossible, as covered psiwheels illustrate.

  • You use constructs and visualization more than I do, Ro. I find I get a certain physical/energetic affinity with the object itself. When using the "connect" method, I can connect quicker to an object I have been using often than with a new object. You have a few apparatuses you're well acquainted with and that respond well to commands, right?

  • I just used your technique here with a twist I balanced a spoon on a wide head screw. Then used lift technique to overbalance the whole contraption and knock it down psionic leverage is very handy if applied in the right conditions. I video taped it so I ll get it up to demonstrate as soon as I find my data cable.

  • Breaking the inertia is exactly what you have to do.

    It is VERY diffcult to break the inertia of a stationary object simply with one's intent, but if the object is already in motion it is easy to skew the velocity.

  • Thanks for the comment, Omnist. It seems all three of us agree on this point. Let's try to apply this theory on kinetic manipulation to move heavier and heavier objects. Keep making vids please. You're a real asset to the community.

  • I don't think I saw that vid. Omnist can knock things over. He has an excellent tutorial on it too.

  • Ok i'm standing by for that fork vid. Do you think you can stand a book on end and push it it over? I saw a china man do it on one of these vids.

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