Tai Chi Chuan 88 Movement Fighting Form

[essence0001]

anhkhoinguyen I beleive it is quite widely accepted that the japenese arts came from the chinese arts, however where the chinese arts tended to include throwing, grappling, chin na, striking, dim mak in each sytem, the japenese tended to separate these out and have arts which focused more on one aspect more but still contained some of the other elemments. Aikido probably stemmed from tai chi and has a lot similarities, but tai chi would appear to be its original source.

[lordosaya]

=) good maintenance of your dan tiens - watching this clip from my perspective as an aikido student, i'm imagining that it would be very hard to take your balance for throws and/or locks.

[thatsit07]

Hence where do you think Aikido comes from?

[lordosaya]

it sounds like you're making a statement, not asking a question. =)

besides, if it was the latter, i have no authority to state anything more than my hypotheses; which would also mean that our discussion would then run away from the main purpose and beauty of this video. ;)

[anhkhoinguyen]

aikido came from daito ryu aikijujutsu...everyone knows that =] but what does that have to do with taijiquan and the video? lol

[Spreadswings]

I like what you guys are doing here. The presentation is enjoyable, and informative. All martial arts should be personal, not ethereal. Filming it in the yard, in casual clothes shows that even tai chi can be just as natural as walking the dog.

[heyjt]

Thanks much,

Not many people learn this form, it took us about a year of monthly visits to our instructor.

The more we do it, the more we learn from it.

[Shindai]

I'm not sure what's going on here exactly but I like it :)

[katz808]

nice vid. my friends here in Hawaii are masters. I've seen some pressure point techniques applied. Wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes.

[heyjt]

Yes, there are indeed pressure-point applications and lots of Chin na hidden in the form. Notice each move is not quite completed because the opponent intercepts the technique. In real life the technique would be full force to completion.

[PsychoBeast1980]

@heyjt Chin Na :) I love practicing that with my brother. I take the Shaolin style.

[piguahand]

thats tight!! i do somthing almost exactly the same! where did you learn that if i may ask!?! very good! not alot of people doing this kind of training!

[heyjt]

We were just learning the form at the time of this video.

Our instructor, Michael Gilman learned it from Master Jou Tsung Hwa.

[catwezl]

this is a two man yang style tai chi form. it teaches the possible applications of the solo form and promotes sensing in relation to push hands.

each form of the yang style is replicated here but in relation to an opponent. they are not the hard and fast applications as in a real situation there is more to add e.g. where one person blocks the kicks to left and right the fighting application could be to drop in further and apply an elbow to the thigh.

[kong585858]

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[themethod]

Great

[GuanSheng]

Fantastic to hear it. There is a true legacy left by taiji fighters like Chen Fake who proved themselves here in China on the leitai and it would be really great to see a video of you guys keeping up that tradition and fighting on the leitai or in the ring. It would be wonderful to see a taiji fighter winning Sanda King. In the mean time perhaps you should change the title since as you say this isn't sanshou

[heyjt]

You know, perhaps you are right. This is a form, not fighting. I will try to change some things and make it more clear. Thanks.

[chessman71]

The form is traditionally known as Yang shi sanshou. So your comment is off base. The term sanshou was taken by the CCP when they wanted to re-introduce "fighting" into their wushu. Their use of the term isn't traditional, what is shown in this clip is. This is correct sanshou, not CCP inspired kickboxing.

[GuanSheng]

Cung Le must be quaking

[heyjt]

This is a complex form, not free fighting. It teaches all the applications for the Yang style Tai Chi Chuan form. Let me assure you, we have no trouble with fighting.

[qornphlake]

wow i'm very impressed...good training