@urmo345 This was recorded from a real NTSC Atari 130XE via a TV capture card; so the music is playing at the correct speed.
If you've played this game on a PAL Atari computer, the music will play slower than usual. Seeing that you're from Europe (which uses the PAL video system), you're probably used to hearing it slowed down a bit.
Happy days! looking at this again i've not played this for over 20 years ha ha , they got better too as the series progressed to Island caper and Artic Antics.
Every Atari version of Spy vs. Spy I've heard on an emulator has bad music timing. I remember playing an original copy on a real 800 and hearing the correct rhythm....I wonder, is it the emulator, or a bad image? :(
To be honest, I'm not sure (I've never played this on an emulator). Did the music in this video sound ok? Because this was recorded straight from an Atari 130XE.
This music was wrong - I just assumed it was emulated. Listen to a recording of the C64 or NES version, particularly the higher bell-like melody. In your recording that part desynchs from the rhythm line in a certain phrase - it goes twice as fast. This is the error I'm referring to.
I see what you're talking about now. I only ever had this game for the Atari, so I never noticed it was different on other platforms.
I think this might just be how the music on the Atari port is, though. It's how I always remembered it and it's also how my original copy plays. Unless maybe First Star released more than one version of the Atari port?
I only heard this version when I started playing it through emulators. The copy I had was definitely different. It's agree it's possible that First Star released more than one version and one of them has broken music.
I had an atari 800xl and a 130xe, and this is the most authentic video I've seen on youtube. You can tell quite clearly that it's a real atari 8bit and not an emulator, as you can hear the "morse code" line noise of the disk accessing data while it loads.
@rfswitchbox I had an atari 800xl and a 130xe, and this is the most authentic video I've seen on youtube. You can tell quite clearly that it's a real atari 8bit and not an emulator, as you can hear the "morse code" line noise of the disk accessing data while it loads.
@ACnitus That's not always a sure sign. For authenticity/nostalgia, several emulators actually have the disk access sound built into them. Amiga, BBC Micro, Amstrad CPC, etc, all have that.
@gjc82071 Also I had an 800 xl from early childhood, a 130 xe later on. I must have played this game a million times. This is what it sounded like.
Don't forget, this was the original game. It's the ports, like the c64 port, that has incorrect music. The c64 had vastly inferior audio and never captured it right in ports from atari. The NES port came out so much later that it doesn't even count as a port so much as a complete remake.
@ACnitus I hate when people speak without having ANY clue. First, this game was originally written for the C64, not ported from Atari.
Second, you can't compare "capturing from atari ports", because that has NOTHING to do with the system's capabilities, but it's 100% on the programmers.
Second, the C64 had vastly SUPERIOR audio. The SID was much more advanced than POKEY, a simple noise generator.
@sctriplefox I think the difference in the rythm is due to the different electrical frequency in Germany (60 Hz) which is where Atari 8 bits were produced, and USA (50 Hz), that causes the sound to go faster/slower, depending on the country you are in... this video is recorded in a 60 Hz country, or with an emulator in the 60 Hz option.
Believe it or not, it actually is a water bucket. Straight from the manual. Worth noting because it acts as the remedy for the bomb.
I think the Spy vs. Spy game that was released for the XBOX a few years ago had an acid bucket as a weapon, but I'm not totally sure as I've never played it.
Also, I really like the spring as well. I probably should have used it in the video. lol.
such a great game, and a great memory from my childhood on the c64
CaptainCheq 2 months ago
thats so cool!
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torikulism 8 months ago
I was pretty young when this came out so I never understood what I was supposed to do.
Dhanijel1 1 year ago
music too fast
urmo345 1 year ago
@urmo345 This was recorded from a real NTSC Atari 130XE via a TV capture card; so the music is playing at the correct speed.
If you've played this game on a PAL Atari computer, the music will play slower than usual. Seeing that you're from Europe (which uses the PAL video system), you're probably used to hearing it slowed down a bit.
Teraforce88 1 year ago
@Teraforce88 Ah, that explains the thing. Thanks! :)
urmo345 1 year ago
It's probably being played in NTSC whereby the music will go quicker than on PAL if run in the VBI. (60x per second as compared to 50x)
snicklin99 1 year ago
I like the new 1 (On XBOX) ;D
TheYoGamer 1 year ago
About the out of sync music. Could be due the OS or the CPU of the Atari 130XE. I played Spy vs Spy on my Atari 800 and the music was fine.
camillaberget 1 year ago
simple instructions.
5n3aky 1 year ago
that takes me back.. i remember an ice one and a sunny island one too
UKNightClubber 1 year ago
Happy days! looking at this again i've not played this for over 20 years ha ha , they got better too as the series progressed to Island caper and Artic Antics.
atari800 1 year ago
i remember the ps2 vertion i played it all the time :) till my dog ate it! :(
TheDarklord0211 2 years ago
I like the sega master system version. But thats the one I grew up with. So to each his own!
phonedork 2 years ago
Amiga version is better! (joke!!! :-)
trophy242 2 years ago
bitxelized
dkthemovie 2 years ago
Every Atari version of Spy vs. Spy I've heard on an emulator has bad music timing. I remember playing an original copy on a real 800 and hearing the correct rhythm....I wonder, is it the emulator, or a bad image? :(
sctriplefox 3 years ago
To be honest, I'm not sure (I've never played this on an emulator). Did the music in this video sound ok? Because this was recorded straight from an Atari 130XE.
rfswitchbox 3 years ago
This music was wrong - I just assumed it was emulated. Listen to a recording of the C64 or NES version, particularly the higher bell-like melody. In your recording that part desynchs from the rhythm line in a certain phrase - it goes twice as fast. This is the error I'm referring to.
sctriplefox 3 years ago
I see what you're talking about now. I only ever had this game for the Atari, so I never noticed it was different on other platforms.
I think this might just be how the music on the Atari port is, though. It's how I always remembered it and it's also how my original copy plays. Unless maybe First Star released more than one version of the Atari port?
rfswitchbox 3 years ago
I only heard this version when I started playing it through emulators. The copy I had was definitely different. It's agree it's possible that First Star released more than one version and one of them has broken music.
sctriplefox 3 years ago
The music plays about twice as fast as it should, at least compared to my tape version that I had from an unknown source.
BelialDW 2 years ago
@rfswitchbox The recording sounds exactly as I remember it.
krbosak 1 year ago
@rfswitchbox It is. I played this game all the time on my Atari 800xl and all the music and sound is exactly the same as in this video
garfles1 7 months ago
@rfswitchbox
I had an atari 800xl and a 130xe, and this is the most authentic video I've seen on youtube. You can tell quite clearly that it's a real atari 8bit and not an emulator, as you can hear the "morse code" line noise of the disk accessing data while it loads.
ACnitus 1 year ago
@rfswitchbox I had an atari 800xl and a 130xe, and this is the most authentic video I've seen on youtube. You can tell quite clearly that it's a real atari 8bit and not an emulator, as you can hear the "morse code" line noise of the disk accessing data while it loads.
ACnitus 1 year ago
@ACnitus That's not always a sure sign. For authenticity/nostalgia, several emulators actually have the disk access sound built into them. Amiga, BBC Micro, Amstrad CPC, etc, all have that.
gjc82071 8 months ago
@gjc82071 Also I had an 800 xl from early childhood, a 130 xe later on. I must have played this game a million times. This is what it sounded like.
Don't forget, this was the original game. It's the ports, like the c64 port, that has incorrect music. The c64 had vastly inferior audio and never captured it right in ports from atari. The NES port came out so much later that it doesn't even count as a port so much as a complete remake.
ACnitus 8 months ago
@ACnitus I hate when people speak without having ANY clue. First, this game was originally written for the C64, not ported from Atari.
Second, you can't compare "capturing from atari ports", because that has NOTHING to do with the system's capabilities, but it's 100% on the programmers.
Second, the C64 had vastly SUPERIOR audio. The SID was much more advanced than POKEY, a simple noise generator.
warpmotivator 4 months ago
@sctriplefox I think the difference in the rythm is due to the different electrical frequency in Germany (60 Hz) which is where Atari 8 bits were produced, and USA (50 Hz), that causes the sound to go faster/slower, depending on the country you are in... this video is recorded in a 60 Hz country, or with an emulator in the 60 Hz option.
Mirkoyanque 10 months ago
@Mirkoyanque Not an electrical issue, but close: in Europe we use PAL 50 Hz framerate while in US - they have uing NTSC with 60Hz.
jrspl 5 months ago
Was very good game to play with brother in childhood.
sergeu78 3 years ago
It was the best game ever!
flyacow 3 years ago 2
atari 8 bit is i think the worst vesion of spy vs spy (my opinion)i think the water bucket is filled wih an electric current
Squishsquash93 3 years ago
LOL. I had this game pc version
ilanmagic 3 years ago
freaking classic
awesome game
CExplosion 3 years ago
yea...it was one of my favourite game(all 3)
odislaw 3 years ago
This is not water bucket. This is ACID bucket.
But I like the spring most.
krbosak 3 years ago
Believe it or not, it actually is a water bucket. Straight from the manual. Worth noting because it acts as the remedy for the bomb.
I think the Spy vs. Spy game that was released for the XBOX a few years ago had an acid bucket as a weapon, but I'm not totally sure as I've never played it.
Also, I really like the spring as well. I probably should have used it in the video. lol.
rfswitchbox 3 years ago
excellent - didnt know this was for the atari 8 bit
dreamcastII 3 years ago