it seems to only want to stop in 3 places, coordinated by the 3 coils of the motor's armature... in one of the clips, it looked like it was going to stop on 12, but bounced back to 11. this is a biased device... maybe a gear motor from a small rc plane would work better. i should try this!
The problem with it is that the distribution may not be fair. That is, the mechanics of the clock and arrow might make it tend to come to rest on one number (or group of numbers) more than on others (sort of like loaded dice). The only way to know for sure would be to run a large number of tests on it and then calculate the distribution that random numbers "should" have and then compare it with the values the clock actually gave.
Great vid, looks completely random to me as a great deal of practice and (LUCK) would go into cheating it lol. Sorry for the loss. Keep up the great work!!
nice I also got somthing alike it was a velleman soldering kit with leds and stuff but I lost it and found it again in 2 piecec lol never had a chance to really play with it maybe 1 game
sorry for the loss......BUT!!!........the number is predetermined depending on were the arrow originally is and how long you hold the power button.......dice on the other hand is 100% random........it bounces anf flips numerous times befroe if stopz.......BUT!!!
@flyingchimp99 Not true. The arrow Never stops in the same place, making it random. You can try all you want to stop it on the number you want, running long or short, but it wont. Glad you think it is cool though.
@NightFlyyer well.......it is random......but........what i meant was if you did it once.....and had the location of the arrow.......and new how long you helt the trigger,......than you could recreate the same thing.........can i just get one thing straight???............you hold the switch......it spins.....you than let go and it stops ??? or will it stop whenever it wants to?
@flyingchimp99 Well if it wasn't random, I would not have made this video...! We have used it to play several games of Monopoly and no one is complaining. They think it is fun and believe me we all try to hit that number we want....but...noooo! LOL.
@flyingchimp99 The dice and this clock is somewhat equally random. Since the clock hand is rotating so fast you cannot control the time you press the button exactlly (enough) to get the same number twice. In the same way: if you could control the speed, height and angle of your hand as it let go of the dice it would also generate the same number twice. but you can't.
Using a CPU it's common to have a counter register running really fast and grabbing the value at keypress. Same idea as clock.
@flyingchimp99 The dice and this clock is somewhat equally random. Since the clock hand is rotating so fast you cannot control the time you press the button exactlly (enough) to get the same number twice. In the same way: if you could control the speed, height and angle of your hand as it let go of the dice it would also generate the same number twice. but you can't.
Using a CPU it's common to have a counter register running really fast and grabbing the value at keypress. Same idea as clock.
@adentse In his device the probability distribution is uniform. the probability of getting any number is 1/12. Unfortunately though, rolling 2 dice gives a different number distribution. Since you are rolling 2 dice, and there are 6 different possible outcomes per die, there is actually 36 different possible outcomes. There are multiple ways of getting a single number, 7 having the most ways 2 and 12 having the least.
smart idea!!!!!
adric137 2 months ago
david bowie midi?
kyleisreallycool 2 months ago
it seems to only want to stop in 3 places, coordinated by the 3 coils of the motor's armature... in one of the clips, it looked like it was going to stop on 12, but bounced back to 11. this is a biased device... maybe a gear motor from a small rc plane would work better. i should try this!
cheetawolf 10 months ago
hey dave.big fan, i just wanted 2 noe wat that thing with which u printed was???
nightflyyerfan 10 months ago
The problem with it is that the distribution may not be fair. That is, the mechanics of the clock and arrow might make it tend to come to rest on one number (or group of numbers) more than on others (sort of like loaded dice). The only way to know for sure would be to run a large number of tests on it and then calculate the distribution that random numbers "should" have and then compare it with the values the clock actually gave.
b1naryd1g1t5 11 months ago
Great video Dave, and a great way to remember.
RcHelpDotCom 11 months ago
Great vid, looks completely random to me as a great deal of practice and (LUCK) would go into cheating it lol. Sorry for the loss. Keep up the great work!!
shoado 11 months ago
lol at 5:00 it says ass project
coolkid8881231 11 months ago
the soldering station is awesome! I've the same Weller WES50 Watt. Thx for uploading :)
medolin1976 11 months ago
Why oh why didn't this video show up on my Youtube Homepage???
Good thing I still visit your channel.
psygn0sis 11 months ago
nice I also got somthing alike it was a velleman soldering kit with leds and stuff but I lost it and found it again in 2 piecec lol never had a chance to really play with it maybe 1 game
boomerangfreak 11 months ago
i like this project but science fairs now are stupid experiments no Inventions :(
kyCap222 1 year ago
thats a great and clever design mr. herbert, im sorry abt your friend. Nice video though and your ideas always amaze me, they're really cool!
ramis182 1 year ago
David Bowie background music.... sweet.
freemind321 1 year ago
Great for twister too if you paint some segments on the face...
locouk 1 year ago
Im sorry for the loss. This skematic is the only one in all of youtube that i understand. thanks!
iissyy123 1 year ago
Looks like a kipkay video. Sorry to hear about your friend, Dave.
benadrylp 1 year ago
A fitting tribute. Nice job.
And from my old Apple II days there's this:
10 X=INT(RND(1)*12)+1
20 PRINT X
Mainyard48 1 year ago
It's always sad to lose a good friend ,but you can remember to good times .
I have now got a use for that old clock ..
spektrum33 1 year ago
They have youtube in heaven :D
Sweet :)
fossil98 1 year ago 12
@fossil98 Ah...good news!
NightFlyyer 1 year ago
sorry for the loss......BUT!!!........the number is predetermined depending on were the arrow originally is and how long you hold the power button.......dice on the other hand is 100% random........it bounces anf flips numerous times befroe if stopz.......BUT!!!
your ways alot cooler!!!! LOL great vid
flyingchimp99 1 year ago
@flyingchimp99 Not true. The arrow Never stops in the same place, making it random. You can try all you want to stop it on the number you want, running long or short, but it wont. Glad you think it is cool though.
NightFlyyer 1 year ago
@NightFlyyer well.......it is random......but........what i meant was if you did it once.....and had the location of the arrow.......and new how long you helt the trigger,......than you could recreate the same thing.........can i just get one thing straight???............you hold the switch......it spins.....you than let go and it stops ??? or will it stop whenever it wants to?
flyingchimp99 1 year ago
@flyingchimp99 Well if it wasn't random, I would not have made this video...! We have used it to play several games of Monopoly and no one is complaining. They think it is fun and believe me we all try to hit that number we want....but...noooo! LOL.
NightFlyyer 1 year ago
@NightFlyyer hey could this be used to make a 1-20 RNG ? be great for DnD to replace a D20
Elios0000 1 year ago
@NightFlyyer this is a sweet project, but i dont play board games too much. Do you have any other electronicly orientated videos, maybe a playlist?
angrygunsmith 1 year ago
@flyingchimp99 The dice and this clock is somewhat equally random. Since the clock hand is rotating so fast you cannot control the time you press the button exactlly (enough) to get the same number twice. In the same way: if you could control the speed, height and angle of your hand as it let go of the dice it would also generate the same number twice. but you can't.
Using a CPU it's common to have a counter register running really fast and grabbing the value at keypress. Same idea as clock.
adentse 11 months ago
@flyingchimp99 The dice and this clock is somewhat equally random. Since the clock hand is rotating so fast you cannot control the time you press the button exactlly (enough) to get the same number twice. In the same way: if you could control the speed, height and angle of your hand as it let go of the dice it would also generate the same number twice. but you can't.
Using a CPU it's common to have a counter register running really fast and grabbing the value at keypress. Same idea as clock.
adentse 11 months ago
@adentse In his device the probability distribution is uniform. the probability of getting any number is 1/12. Unfortunately though, rolling 2 dice gives a different number distribution. Since you are rolling 2 dice, and there are 6 different possible outcomes per die, there is actually 36 different possible outcomes. There are multiple ways of getting a single number, 7 having the most ways 2 and 12 having the least.
zashbot 11 months ago
im sorry for your loss dave, but can you have a nice weekend. Chris Christoffersen from Denmark
quins7387 1 year ago 6
@quins7387 Thanks very kindly, Chris
NightFlyyer 1 year ago
And sorry for your loss :/
1Ekollon 1 year ago 15
Mr. Nighflyyer back again with another brilliant video :)
1Ekollon 1 year ago