Turkey's Secularists are the fanatics who are a threat to the country and are the real threat to freedom in the country and the region. There're many religious political parties in power in the EU however they have in no way endangered the secularism of their countries. Turkey is still confused and still doesn't understand that there can be seperation of state and religion and that there is no need for fundamentalist secularists.
All the ignorant responses from the Turks here prove why Europe doesn't want Turkey in the EU and why the Middle East has no respect for Turkey either. Attaturk destroyed Turkey and tried to make it something it is not: Western and to ensure he achieved his goal he massacred 1.5 million Armenians and established a millitary dictatorship. Turkey is not a democracy regardless of what the blind posters here keep writing.
no fuck you you my ignorant friend. Turks have defended the religion for over a 1000 years. So bow down and show some respect. When the British came all you so called muslims had no problems bending over and killing turks for a bit of wealth. The quran even says you are not to force your beliefs on others. So to have sharia law is a SIN, a big SIN!
Ömer Taspinar, either you accept Kemalism in Turkey or You can go to hell!!! ok? you say Kemalism is the problem in Turkey not the religion, waaavvv what a clever guy! What did u study or read in order to come to this conclusion, you idiot! you can tell this to only to Americans and europeans! so shut upp!!
you shut uppp!!, i am a turkish muslim and able to practice my religion wholly in Turkey. We dont need no damn religious ruling, we know what those bastard religious leaders can do! they are deceiving those uneducated poor turkish people...
Turkey had distant itself from Islam & other Muslims on the very day it became independent. The caller is right! Turks are ashamed of Muslims and trying to do those things which Westerners wouldn't do with their People/Religion. In clear words Turkey & Turks are doing whatever they can to *PLEASE* their Western neighbours.
only one million demonstrated against ak party but ak party wouldnt be there if they didnt have majority of turkish votes most turks want islam not opressing secularism
Nobody here has a identity crisis.We are Turkish!!not arabian,not Iranian,not greek,not european!!and also I am not interested in being a EU citizen!I don't want my country,Turkey,to be a member of EU.Thanks to our great leader,Mustafa Kemal Ataturk who brought secularism,liberal education system and woman rights!
the AK parties domestic success probably has alot to do with its lack of corruption. the so called "secular" leadership of the 90's and the military all have ties to the US and oversaw great corruption, economic decline, and profiting for US businesses and weapons dealers. they may be trying to halt the overall progress of turks, to enshrine their aristocracy in the name of secularism.
these old dogmas persist in europe and are the main stumbling block that europe needs to deal with before integration can happen. until then, turkey will always be seen as inferior and will be held seen as backwards and violent. for example, the demands for turkey to accept the armenian genocide, when europe wont recognize the countless millions that have died and suffered as a result of centuries of imperialism (e.g. algeria, the americas, africa, etc.) it is hypocritical to say the least.
sarkozy and others will always see turkey as inferior in race, culture, and politics. after WWI, europe wanted to make turkey their colony, similar to what they did in palestine. they wanted to subject the turks to the whim of the greeks, italians, british, and french... much like the palestinians are subjected to the euro jews; the soviet union helped the turkish revolution.
i have been thinking that they are in identity crisis, wannabe eu's member and want to get rid of its islamic image, but they are unlikely to be accepted. So what kind of democracy if you not allow one's liberty? it means a sick democracy theory.
yesss, we have a sick democracy and we are happy with that!! Real democracy would turn us in to IRAN!! we have at least another 50 years of this sick democracy until we can turn into real democracy!!
Turkey's Secularists are the fanatics who are a threat to the country and are the real threat to freedom in the country and the region. There're many religious political parties in power in the EU however they have in no way endangered the secularism of their countries. Turkey is still confused and still doesn't understand that there can be seperation of state and religion and that there is no need for fundamentalist secularists.
somethingawful01 3 years ago
All the ignorant responses from the Turks here prove why Europe doesn't want Turkey in the EU and why the Middle East has no respect for Turkey either. Attaturk destroyed Turkey and tried to make it something it is not: Western and to ensure he achieved his goal he massacred 1.5 million Armenians and established a millitary dictatorship. Turkey is not a democracy regardless of what the blind posters here keep writing.
somethingawful01 3 years ago
You mean you made a public search to judge this. You are greath person.
tolgaoztemur 2 years ago
Sharia Law the best law available!
baburo101 3 years ago
no fuck you you my ignorant friend. Turks have defended the religion for over a 1000 years. So bow down and show some respect. When the British came all you so called muslims had no problems bending over and killing turks for a bit of wealth. The quran even says you are not to force your beliefs on others. So to have sharia law is a SIN, a big SIN!
remedy1984 4 years ago
it was kemal who was responsible for the Genocide!! it Was under his regime that THAT happened!! So Secular me this....
koekiedow 4 years ago
Ömer Taspinar, either you accept Kemalism in Turkey or You can go to hell!!! ok? you say Kemalism is the problem in Turkey not the religion, waaavvv what a clever guy! What did u study or read in order to come to this conclusion, you idiot! you can tell this to only to Americans and europeans! so shut upp!!
fenasifecisiKerim 4 years ago
the turkish muslims must reject secularism!! even if they have to attack to who protest on keeping secularism!!!!
koekiedow 4 years ago
you shut uppp!!, i am a turkish muslim and able to practice my religion wholly in Turkey. We dont need no damn religious ruling, we know what those bastard religious leaders can do! they are deceiving those uneducated poor turkish people...
fenasifecisiKerim 4 years ago
Turkey had distant itself from Islam & other Muslims on the very day it became independent. The caller is right! Turks are ashamed of Muslims and trying to do those things which Westerners wouldn't do with their People/Religion. In clear words Turkey & Turks are doing whatever they can to *PLEASE* their Western neighbours.
baluchsaab 4 years ago
last thing you want to believe is the media. Ask yourself who owns the media and why they choose topics to discuss.
remedy1984 4 years ago
only one million demonstrated against ak party but ak party wouldnt be there if they didnt have majority of turkish votes most turks want islam not opressing secularism
arsatalvi 4 years ago
Nobody here has a identity crisis.We are Turkish!!not arabian,not Iranian,not greek,not european!!and also I am not interested in being a EU citizen!I don't want my country,Turkey,to be a member of EU.Thanks to our great leader,Mustafa Kemal Ataturk who brought secularism,liberal education system and woman rights!
Euphrates1983 4 years ago
the AK parties domestic success probably has alot to do with its lack of corruption. the so called "secular" leadership of the 90's and the military all have ties to the US and oversaw great corruption, economic decline, and profiting for US businesses and weapons dealers. they may be trying to halt the overall progress of turks, to enshrine their aristocracy in the name of secularism.
jklasdfjdfksl 4 years ago
these old dogmas persist in europe and are the main stumbling block that europe needs to deal with before integration can happen. until then, turkey will always be seen as inferior and will be held seen as backwards and violent. for example, the demands for turkey to accept the armenian genocide, when europe wont recognize the countless millions that have died and suffered as a result of centuries of imperialism (e.g. algeria, the americas, africa, etc.) it is hypocritical to say the least.
jklasdfjdfksl 4 years ago
sarkozy and others will always see turkey as inferior in race, culture, and politics. after WWI, europe wanted to make turkey their colony, similar to what they did in palestine. they wanted to subject the turks to the whim of the greeks, italians, british, and french... much like the palestinians are subjected to the euro jews; the soviet union helped the turkish revolution.
jklasdfjdfksl 4 years ago
i have been thinking that they are in identity crisis, wannabe eu's member and want to get rid of its islamic image, but they are unlikely to be accepted. So what kind of democracy if you not allow one's liberty? it means a sick democracy theory.
eddylamno 4 years ago
yesss, we have a sick democracy and we are happy with that!! Real democracy would turn us in to IRAN!! we have at least another 50 years of this sick democracy until we can turn into real democracy!!
fenasifecisiKerim 4 years ago