So every brown dwarf we find in the night sky is going to be planet X huh? You can't possibly believe there's only one out there. We won't know if it's our special X or just some distant X if we don't know if it's in our solar system or not.
I am a bit confused here, ardent believers in the planetX or Nibiru theory are accusing NASA and the government of a huge cover up, yet NASA has come out to say that they are carefully watching another asteroid named Apophes due to come very close to Earth around 2040. Their appears to be very few videos around youtube that deals with this very real threat. I would be keen to hear peoples opinion on Apophes..... Regards
oh god im a dumbass ;), i do it later when the sun is away. and yes, its there, but what is it??? a brown darf, ohter sun or really nibiru. i cant belive at nibiru,.... This time...
I thought Nibiru was supposed to do something to us. But this sounds more like it's a star? And if it's the hottest thing in the galaxy..well, ok, ..but..what is it supposed to do to us??? Is there any proof it's coming closer or what? Just hanging around out there being hot and waiting for 2012? Or is full of aliens, who are very hot? I don't get it.
those co-ords point to a carbon star called cw leo or the penut nebula. try again mate. good candidate though. I expect nibiru would be our suns binary and would be a brown dwarf, though a white dwarf surrounded by carbon would have evolved the higher elements needed for life. this particular star has nitrogen, oxygen, water, silicone and iron detected good start. it's distance has been put at 650 ly which would be a tad far away for our purposes here though. if they are right that is.
I cant read the coordniates could you please send me the RA and Dec please. Thank you. Signed a fellow astronomer who loves science fiction especially when it becomes science fact, as is often the case. The sheer wonder, excitement, and concern this generates is absolutely addicting,
how do you know if this is supposly hitting earth what if it hits somewhere else? many of the websites are saying that this will be the end of the world which i think it will not happen..........
I found this pecouliar celestial body, which is shown only using the IR spectrum. I found it using the WWT initialy & then I said to my self,why not use the google/sky? Well, its there too,called GRO947+12. No other information, nothing...Not visible in normal spectrum! I wonder what's that thing!
Hey, Watcher71b, I got real interested in planet x after i saw red dust just hanging in the atmosphere on the day of the tsunami in the asian region. i was in perth western australia. check out 'red rain in india' youtube video. so annoying how the american gov rep just disses the whole idea.
The current Nibiru coordinates are - 9h 47m 57.30sec 13deg 16' 44.2", set the SDSS (SloanDigitalSkySurvey) and zoom in. Now set the IRAS layer to see it's infrared heat signature.
When will the concious of the Human mind awaken from its sleep and your eyes be opened to understand that all your life you were taught to fear Fear the Bible Fear the Law Fear what? If the human race didnt want to destroy everything and become so violent then the Earth would be the paradise which it speeks inthe Bible. But this current race of Humans amounted to nothing they have to be Vanquished and Abolished from the face of the Earth for cleansing and the rebirth of a new Life system.
Only God knows when world will end but maybe somthing is going to happen 2012 but not the end of the world and im lil bit cofused about this bullshit planet-x peace
yeah, it doesn't look like any strong evidence. maybe if there was a satellite that showed jupiter, maybe pluto or something and then nibiru close by.. it all seems like a way to make some quick money off the 2012 idea whether its fake or real..
Making money from a civil debate? Come on. Do you see any links to anything to buy here? Come on? Debunk by all means. But don't make pathetic, unfounded allegations OK.
PS, if you do know a way I could make some money from this please let me know....My other half has very expensive taste in shoes and I could use all the help I can get!
There are always doubters as planet X is seen in other parts of the world and photographic evidence exists. How can you tell me there are two suns in the skies now? One smaller (planet x) than the other. It is time to start praying and maybe it won't come close enough to our planet to cause serious damage.
Sure feel free.......but stand by for the hateful Troll campaign that will come with it. Try to be fair and allow for a debate.....but don't stand for abuse or bad language...OK! I think the more people discussing whether or not this thing is real the better. Good luck!
It makes sense that the MASS (as proved by an x-ray that there is a mass at that point) is detectable before the heat signature. Definatly an interesting find, I will have to monitor it for a while to come and see what comes of it! Oh and when I used the finder scope there was no known information about this x-ray reading!!!
Precisely....it is unknown at this time....(officially)
Oh and parts 1 and 2 of your comments did not come through for some reason, happens to me all the time. Repost your comments as I think you have something to say. :)
crouchinyourmouth, your opinion is based on what exactly? Have you even read any of the comments on here? WATCHER71B has repeatedly said this is a debate and everyone is welcome to an opinion for or against the proposed possibilty, provided they can substantiate with reasoned argument. To say its BS because you dont like it (and in truth are possibly even scared at the prospect of it being true) is NOT by any stretch of the imagination "reasoned argument". Ostrich, head and sand comes to mind.
BAXTERU, until a recent update, my sources were claiming the object at those co-ordinates as unidentified. Indeed the object appeared to be completely removed from the cluster of stars bearing the CW Leonis designation (there are several, in a cluster and stretching out...) However after the latest update both G Sky and WW Telescope do indeed appear to identify this object as having the designation CW Leonis. Of that I'm not sure what to make. My cross referencing was sound...and honest...
I have no axe to grind but merely seek answers. I would draw your attention to the question marks in the title, indicating that this is a debating point and that the debate on this page has evolved into a generalist debate about PX. In that light it shall remain as a debate about PX. Read up on the comments to see people expressing their views. Funnily enough I don't respond well to abuse LOL! I think the title will need to be changed to case solved!LOL. However a lot of questions remain....
unaswered and this topic remains of great interest, for IF, IF something is on the way in, the general public would be the very last to know and yet the potential consequences of such an event would be catastrophic. So in that light the debate will continue. Hopefully as a lucid rational debate/ exchange of views and opinions.
But if Nibiru is coming from the south, "Only seen by the South pole" Then how could it be on the ecliptic? I don't think this is it... But nice try...
No.. Planet X CAN NOT be found.. It's a planet that's slowly moving towards Earth. So no, Nothing has ever found an image of it except Area 51. 2012 we will all be seeing it, and even a couple years before that. So just wait.
There's "nothing there" in the optical wavelength view because it's a normal planet passing right along on the ecliptic line and it was there in the IRAS survey, but it moves all the time so it wasn't there during any of the other surveys. These various surveys did not image the same spot of sky simultaneously.
There is some astronomer who thinks "Nibiru" may be a brown dwarf star, that is a companion to our sun (since binary star systems are most common), however he named this star "Nemesis". But according to Sumerian text "Nibiru" means Planet of the crossing, so is it a planet or a star. It may be a planet of this brown drarf star that the astronomer named "Nemesis". Very interesting video.
Indeed, Binary solar systems do appear to be the most commonly occurring solar system in the observed sky...which lends some credibility to those curious enough to attempt to figure out if there is anything to this. After all IF it is true...I suspect that the population at large would be the last to be informed. have you come across the results from the Ulysses probe..? Very interesting reading...
Well...of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you feel so much better for sharing that comment with the world? I hope so. Since I suspect that you are connected with an abusive whack job who recently got blocked, I'm watching you. Why you can't make your point without using abusive language is beyond me, or is your point that weak. 1 more comment and then I get nasty. make it a good one. Oh and ps debunk with facts not hearsay or abusive language. When you abuse people it makes you ...
hearsay? everything you provide in this video is hearsay.
google sky is a faulty computer program and those blank spaces show up all over it.
and you have not shown any proof.
so don't threaten me with getting nasty since you are the one telling people their families will be murdered..go back to listen to the money hungry fear spreaders.
Lol!!. Telling people their families are going to get murdered?...are you crazy!...Oh yes you are a nasty troll aren't Nookiboi!!!! Total Douche...go back to self harming you asshole...:)...!
weak and pointless. Because you for some strange reason feel threatened by a debate, as this page is as to whether or not there is anything to this. Yet you feel threatened by that...strange, very strange. you must have a very lonely life. I am sorry for that, indeed I feel sorry for you. I await your abusive response as I am confident that you are incapable of rational debate. Oh Ps, if any body has an agenda here..i suspect it's you as the pathetic abusive e-mail and profile comments show...
Wow it didn't take long did it! that's a new record!...Well you seem like a charmer so get back under the bridge you nasty Troll. Go ahead and create new ID's...we can do this all night, since YOU clearly have nothing better to do with your time. How dare people debate and talk about something you disagree with!!!! Total loser you are so blocked!!!!..
But if it is not seen with the naked eye, (or actually the telescope, normal view eye) why is google earth hiding it? Google earth does not have all those fancy 'more then normal' views...
And I know Google earth is hiding it, its not a missing panel, its a pasted panel because you can see half a star disappearing below the panel...
Everytime I look up something that concerns Niburu/Planet X, I find more and more pieces fitting a perfect... Very scary puzzle...
First read the discussion on the page, then do some research.....and then.....and ONLY then.....comment....! Your assertions are irrelevant to the discussion on this page.
My Bad....? What for? As far as I see you have provided something to the debate..! So Def not ' My bad'...! :)..! Thanx for your input and keep em coming! Peace!
No infact I have been reading this for ages. I even believed it truly at one point. But as time goes on it is emerging that there is no threat, and as much as I hate to say it, is the creativity of human mind. We need some actual real evidence.
Tribalwar...I have not made an assertion that this planet is hot...infact I assert that IF....IF it is real....then it appears to be a Brown Dwarf, on a highly Elliptical orbit that possibly takes it well below the solar plane of the Ecliptic..therefor your assertions are not relevant to this debate. Obviously reach your own conclusions, me...I seek good strong scientific confirmation...and I think I may have it....details/Vid to come soon....
There is a lot of debate on the issue of satellites. IF it is real, some of the claimed time lapse pictures do appear to show at least 2 satellites. Historical records and other sources claim 7, so the debate continues....
Reptilianmuseum, that has been a subject of debate here. To the best that I can ascertain this area is viewable from only just South of the Equator, literally only a few degrees into the Southern Hemisphere & for me that poses a problem as PX is supposedly only viewable from the Extreme Southern Hemisphere...However, that is only based on what I can ascertain, if any one can give a definitive answer with links to evidence re the latitudes this area of sky is viewable from, it would be most....
...welcome & appreciated. Remember this here is a discussion about an interesting anomaly on GSKY & MS Telescope...& NOT the definitive evidence of Nibiru...it may well yet prove to be evidence of PX...for me, proof that this area of sky was infact only viewable from the extreme Southern Hemisphere would help...Oh sorry guys, I got a head cold...not latitude, I mean Longitude, sorry head colds made me thick....;) Does that help Reptilianmuseum..?
1/ It isn't me talking in the video...it's a repost as stated in the title...if you had read it...sort of puts your research abilities into question huh?
2/If you had actually read the debate you would see that we have debated CW Leonis and it is in the wrong part of the sky.
I cringe when venomous muppets like you come along. Whats your purpose in life? Do you have one? If we are crazy then leave us to our madness. how does it impact you? Do your research & then don't come back. Fail. Bye Bye
Cw Leonis and R Leonis. Do your homework, there were several times in this video that I cringed while listening to you try to talk like you knew anything about this subject.
Nookiboi, back again Trolling. I gave U the benefit of the doubt before, have U even downloaded the program yet? Anyway, for those who have the program, type in CW Leonis and see what shows up. Amazingly it is not this area of sky. So as a tiresome Troll who contributes nothing to the debate, let alone a valid debunk, in the immortal words of the landlord...'YOUR BARRED!'...Next time, at least download the program....Douche.
If so what is the calculated interval between Polar reversal?...And where in that time frame are we currently...? Is talk of a Galactic plane of the ecliptic and the imminent traversing of that plane new age mumbo jumbo? What are the potential GEOPHYSICAL ramifications for the Earth in such an event?...And for other bodies in the Solar system, including the Kaiper belt and the Oort cloud...? Did Halleys comet suddenly flare up briefly as it departed the solar system?
My sources of data regarding space sciences are Science based and not Metaphysical. Reality is mind blowing enough without embellishment. Do you have any idea how many near Earth objects whizz past the Earth in a month!? Some just appearing out of nowhere..? So I know where you are coming from, answer this question...In your opinion, does mainstream science believe that the Earth has experienced a magnetic pole shift in the past?
...Just do some research. Other than that, my attitude is, well this MAY be possible...(Research the Oort cloud)...I then work on the mitigation of the event. I advise people not to do anything crazy, but to be capable of being self sufficient, so that they can take care of themselves and loved ones. If that offends you...too bad, LOL! A personal love of Astronomy and Space sciences also drives me on. Do you have any idea just how LITTLE we actually know about our own solar system...?
watcher, if i may, would you mind sharing your credentials with us? You certainly have a lot to say and especially, its on a subject that indeed makes for interesting reading? I trust your research is taken from 100% proven sources as id hate to think your merely drawing conclusions from some highly sceptical and somewhat coincidental information :)
A far question, although you do sound a little sarcastic. Still Skepticism is a good starting point for research on this subject. There really is so much BS out there on this topic. The purpose of this page is to generally discuss the topic and the various opinions on the matter. If you read my comments you will hopefully notice that I always begin with the caviate 'If it's true...' My first degree was in Sociology and Geo-politics and I am currently qualifying in Disaster management.
This involves gaining an appreciation of the processes at work when an event happens. So I study Geophysics, Meteorology, Hydrology, Geology etc...My direction is actually towards risk management and disaster mitigation which perhaps informs the position I take on this subject. As for 100% proven sources...? You have to be kidding!? On this subject..? No I apply academic filtering. I test a theory as best I can, then discuss it. Everything I point out is available to anybody via the internet..
Hi Watcher71B! Couple of questions. How can we know from the video that it is coming toward us? Is there any time lapse photo to show actual movement? Do you have a speed at which it is traveling? and a distance from us? Also, is this type of object extremely rare? It seems that there would be lots of things like that picture out there. WELL COOL DUDE, actually, if is coming at us not so cool, but... Say, is there any way to make it appear blue or red like Hopi Indians say it will look?
Ahh time lapse photography...the Holy Grail...! If I had the answers to half those questions the mystery would be solved! I have seen a couple of vids that claim to show time lapse photography that shows at least 2 orbiting satellites and a trajectory that indicates an approach...unfortunately unverifiable though. DL Google Earth, goto 09h 47m 57.38s Dec +13° 16' 43.6"' Zoom right in so the red object is large on your screen and there, orbiting the object is what some claim are several .....
planetoids/planets/satellites in Orbit around the object. I 've studied these closely, captured the image, processed the image....and I am not totally dismissive. In processing at least 1 of the objects does appear to possibly be a planetoid....try it for your self. Be sure to use the installed version of G Earth as the online version will not let you zoom in as much. Remember that most images of the sky are NOT natural colour, but an artificial colour generated to show detail, so blue, red...
..who knows? My attitude says approach this with open minded skepticism and see where honest open minded research takes you. Anyway, we're all going to know in the next few months whether or not it's real. By mid 2009 it is supposedly visible in the Southern Hemisphere. So really not long to go. My advice, just in case....start prepping anyway...NOW. NY will not be pretty if this shit IS real. The purpose of the discussion here is to exchange info and debate if there is any validity to PX.
Aswell as Seismic events of an intensity not experienced in modern times...reasonable extrapolations would also suggest that Pole shift is a distinct possibility. The list is endless. The Bio-sphere that is the Earth is interconnected. One event will likely cause another etc...
Painless Tragedy, welcome to the discussion. Read the rest of the comments, most people on here have managed to find the area this vid referances. I have had some updates to this area that are of interest. Vid to come soon. Re the heat from the Brown Dwarf. As I understand it it isn't actually going to come near us but swing around the Sun causing super massive coronal mass ejections...think of the Earth being flash fried. Research Super massive Coronal Mass ejections...
psychics and alternative scientists are projecting for the next few years -
I know its a bit quasi mystical but a few psychics have talked of the 1st 'red summer' in 2010 when the suns solar flare activity goes hyper , bathing the earth in dangerous microwaves ( ? ) I am no scientist so I am keeping an open mind about what will actually occur - but my gut instinct has been telling me for the last few years that this is coming .
Chiscat, well now that is interesting. Apparently the Sun has been in an increasingly active mode roughly since the mid 40's. Most people are not aware of this but if there is 1 extraterrestrial killer that is the most likely to eradicate life on Earth...it is Super massive coronal mass ejections...far more likely than even an asteroid hitting the Earth. Virtually no warning and absolutely lethal. I, for one don't discount even the Quasi Mystical...even if I don't totally accept it.
The interesting thing is that IF a Brown Dwarf IS heading into the Solar System, the Sun is going to react. The effect is most likely to be large Coronal Ejections...If PX has been on approach for many years, the upswing in Solar activity may be explained by the approaching Brown Dwarf/PX....If it is approaching, then it has been doing so for all of your life, my life, my grandparents lives, my great grandparents lives...etc, you get the picture..?
Like an approaching locomotive...that only recently with the advent of space technology....we have only just, in the last 30 years, been able to see coming...Somebody has metaphorically looked up and gone...'OH SHIT!...WHAT IS THAT!!!!?'...before filling their pants...LOL
My Gut tells me the same.....Network. Find good people around you. Don't do anything crazy. Learn about your local area, find out where in your local floods, learn how to purify water and how to feed your self...
If you never need these skills....great! You'll have had some great camping trips and some good family time....Oh and a note to all..... Zeitgeist 2 is out. It is also on U Tube. DL and watch as a matter of urgency!...Good luck !
Most people estimate it will barely miss us, and we could suffer a servere polar shift which 90%-95% of the worlds population would siese to exist, but what about the heat from this Brown Dwarf, Wouldn't we all die from the Heat it puts off, Plz someone with Scientific Credentials email me with a response, CERN knows about Nibiru and is fighting for a working model of Time Travel threw Pre-Big Bang Dark Matter Particles, They know we don't have much time, They are our only hope of survival...
Young Buck....Nice work...? I can't find it.....?
Think and put some effort into looking for it...B4 you get sarcastic with me u Fucking Tard.
Nice attempt a t really crass shallow debunking...in fact...why am I talking to to a comestaine like you....Go back to marvelling at the exploits of LOHAN...BYE BYE RETARD.
If it's very hot, then there is no living lifeforms right? so it contradicts the sumerians claim that Anunaki's came from that planet? or is it really a planet? or are we looking at a different planet X?
Read the debate that we have been having here....No it's not a planet, I believe it is a Brown Dwarf that has several satellite's, possibly 7, one of which the Anunaki supposedly live...although I certainly make NO CLAIM as to the Anunaki...I'm still working on whether there is something large coming this way OR NOT. You can think about Alien overlords if you wish...I am certainly not there yet!
well, i was searching everything about a couple weeks ago based upon planet x. after reviewing and studying the films, i came to the conclusion that they are all mostly fake bullshit, but this is the most realistic thing ive come across and the thing thats scary is that its the newest information ive come across... really scary.
Personally I think that's the best attitude to have with this subject. Always research a claim, attempt to debunk it and if it doesn't stand up to debunking, if there is something that doesn't add up, investigate further. We have a good debate going on here, read some the rest of the comments, there are 2 good possible debunks in there that I am researching as we speak...and welcome aboard! I have also recently found some new info...vid to come soon...stay tuned!
I dont get it, planet x is a huge red star and its coming towards uss in tremendesly high speed and its not far from pluto and we still can see with our bare eye? ppl just relise that all this is fake... and remeber that if the U.S goverment coverd it upp so far what makes u think that they will forgot things like google sky and the MS teleskop? (sry for my bad english)
Hmm don't state it as fake until you have done some research. It is speculated as being a Brown dwarf (look up the characteristics of a Brown dwarf) which is why it can currently only be seen in the Infra red spectrum. Research the characteristics of an elliptical orbit. If you had read the debate and watched the vid then you would also know that google sky & WW Telescope haven't been overlooked..indeed that is what the debate is about...
It's interesting to me how many prophecies point to December 2012 when we have the galactic alignment. Some people think the reason for the chemtrails is to cover up PX around the time it is most visible - sunrise and sunset. What do you think about that?
yes that right, historical records need to be taken into account as a part of the whole picture. As far as chemtrails...there may be something going on but here in the UK we don't have the same thing occurring. As I understand chemtrails it has something to do with introducing a drug into the population, which leads me to conclude that there are easier ways of doing it...eg through the water supply...but I'm not really upto speed on them, tell me what you know/think..
That is certainly where my concerns are...at the end of the day pole shift and massive seismic and volcanic events, accompanied by all of their consequences (Massive Tsunami, nuclear winter etc) is the best case scenario, which is all we can work with. Lets face it if the worst case scenario happens...it's game over. Nothing we can do ...at all.
Wow, well the answer to that wouldn't actually fit in the space alloted here...but if we first assume that PX does actually exist and follows the orbital path that it is often claimed, as I understand it, it is 'possible' for the Earth and the various satellite's around Nibiru/PX/Wormwood to collide with the Earth, indeed some claim it already has...the Pacific ocean....However the usual path and the one predicted for this flyby supposedly takes it around the far side of the sun....
triggering super massive solar events. This is what poses the major threat to the Earth. On it's way in PX is subject to the gravitational influence of the larger solar bodies within the solar system and of course has it's own significant gravitational influence in turn. So in short if it exists, if it is where it is claimed to be and following the path that is claimed....only somebody with access to solar system modeling software could hope to predict the events of flyby...
...again they would need access to accurate data as to the exact composition of Nibiru/PX/Wormwood to have any hope of modeling or predicting events. Another impact that is speculated is the triggering of polar shift and the catastrophic impact that would have on the Earths inhabitants. I take attitude of preparing....just in case. I sure hope I'm wrong that it's coming, I really don't want to be right...meanwhile I'll prepare as best I can...
Is it going to arrive in 2012..? I really don't know. It may not arrive for 100's of years. I do know that there are large bodies in the the Kuiper belt, that NASA is strangely quiet about yet you or I would call a planet, so the possibility of PX existing is raised somewhat by this fact, incidentally a large body passing through the Kuiper belt is going to bring lots of large junks of rock and ice with it, further into the solar system...remember shoemaker levi..?
So I hope I have been helpful, of course don't believe me on blind faith, instead take what I have said and go and research it, indeed try to debunk it...honestly. Look at the evidence you can find and subject it to academic cross referencing...Also observe the behavior of the powers that be as 2012 (& beyond approach). The state will not save you. The state wants to retain order and save the few it can or has chosen to save...
Research D.U.M.B's..Deep Underground Military Bases...specifically the amount suddenly being built across the globe...research Fema concentration camps. Those are a good starting point for any one. Looking for a reaction can often suggest the causation...indeed this is how Astronomers first found the outer planets. The state is clearly reacting/preparing for a significant event, in the near future. Look for overseas troops being returned home to keep order in the ensuing panic and....
subsequent declaration of marshal law....where ever you live in the world. do the research and connect the dots. Whilst they keep us in the dark the state retains the power. Good luck.
but i do belive that no matter how advance our goverment tech is i doubt they have a weapon strong enough to destroy a planet heading straight for us anyway but they could be hiding anything is possibe in this world we live in :)
Frozenstatz, your welcome but to clarify, none of the predictions for 'this' flyby indicate a collision with the Earth...if indeed it's true. The damage will be caused by super massive solar flares. Satellites and unshielded electronics will be subject to massive EMP that will render them useless and the the surface of the Earth will be bombarded with intense radiation...if it's true. So No there is no planet buster hidden somewhere...
The powers that be, I think plan on riding it out deep underground, leaving the vast majority of us to fend for ourselves...resulting in huge loss of life amongst a very surprised and unprepared population. So you can see why my attitude is that just in case it is true, one should prepare as best as one can. Networking is important. Your young so start learning how to feed yourself, learn about the effects of solar radiation etc. Find out as much as you can and then come to your own conclusions.
As I understand it, no it isn't going to collide directly with the Earth but is going to cause super massive coronal mass ejections that will cause devastation on the Earth. Also the gravitational influence as it swings around the sun may cause polar shift and trigger massive seismic events on the Earth. Dormant volcanoes will spring to life and new volcanoes will appear, also the movement of the crust will trigger super massive Tsunami,your going to want to be 100+miles inland..if it's all true
Times up Anix44....nothing of any substance to say....so time for some BLOCKAGE..!!!!
I was reasonable and gave you a chance to debunk with something of substance....and you didn't, you just enjoy pulling your little swizzle stick and abusing people...So your comments are going up your asshole & you, comestaine on the world that you are, have just ceased to exist....FAIL....!!!...BYE BYE!!!
I heard that Niburu is G1.9 is that true?
somethingcomes 3 months ago
So every brown dwarf we find in the night sky is going to be planet X huh? You can't possibly believe there's only one out there. We won't know if it's our special X or just some distant X if we don't know if it's in our solar system or not.
somethingcomes 3 months ago
Nibiru Oct. 28th here?
mattieo86 4 months ago
Thanks Watcher! Great evidence,preserve it....
MsTeaRex 9 months ago
What are current updates?
Devils1stBorn 10 months ago
FOR people who think its not out there go to yahoo type in 9th planet found. ITS THERE
STICKYGE 11 months ago
CW Leonis.
This has to be the twentieth time I've seen this blatant misidentification.
DreamTraveller1 11 months ago
@DreamTraveller1 next time read before you post. The video IS identified as CW Leonis smart guy.
trenchcoatbob1 5 months ago
This is CW Leonis.
A carbon star in the Leo constellation 600 lightyears away.
This is about the fifteenth time I've seen this object misidentified as something else.
DreamTraveller1 11 months ago
I am a bit confused here, ardent believers in the planetX or Nibiru theory are accusing NASA and the government of a huge cover up, yet NASA has come out to say that they are carefully watching another asteroid named Apophes due to come very close to Earth around 2040. Their appears to be very few videos around youtube that deals with this very real threat. I would be keen to hear peoples opinion on Apophes..... Regards
MilitiaHQ 1 year ago
a brown dwarf is not a dead burnt out star, it is a planet turning into a star but not enough mass to sustain stable hydrogen fusion.
throwingshit 1 year ago
oh god im a dumbass ;), i do it later when the sun is away. and yes, its there, but what is it??? a brown darf, ohter sun or really nibiru. i cant belive at nibiru,.... This time...
bully861 1 year ago
really really shit, i take the same and by me is the sun on this place, you make there invisible and thats all. sry for my english ;)
bully861 1 year ago
I thought Nibiru was supposed to do something to us. But this sounds more like it's a star? And if it's the hottest thing in the galaxy..well, ok, ..but..what is it supposed to do to us??? Is there any proof it's coming closer or what? Just hanging around out there being hot and waiting for 2012? Or is full of aliens, who are very hot? I don't get it.
Skyehook 1 year ago
I have already seen this with my naked eye.....i saw it on the night sky.
Sylux9501 1 year ago
@Sylux9501 that is most likely a star.
xLiammmmmmmmmm 1 year ago
those co-ords point to a carbon star called cw leo or the penut nebula. try again mate. good candidate though. I expect nibiru would be our suns binary and would be a brown dwarf, though a white dwarf surrounded by carbon would have evolved the higher elements needed for life. this particular star has nitrogen, oxygen, water, silicone and iron detected good start. it's distance has been put at 650 ly which would be a tad far away for our purposes here though. if they are right that is.
subdeviant 1 year ago
I cant read the coordniates could you please send me the RA and Dec please. Thank you. Signed a fellow astronomer who loves science fiction especially when it becomes science fact, as is often the case. The sheer wonder, excitement, and concern this generates is absolutely addicting,
Zoroasterrrr 1 year ago
It is real, because it talks about Nibiru in the bible in Revelations 8;10 and 8;11
2012NibiruAnnunaki 1 year ago
Serch with World wide telescope:
Select SKY, Imagery: RASS: ROSAT
Coordinates: DEC: 5h 53M 25S RA: -5h 59m 10s
Is there somebody who knows which planet is that? It seems Nibiru!
ppaooh 1 year ago
With worldwidetelescope select: from imagery: Rass: Rosat
Coordinates:
RA: 5h 53m 25s Dec -5h 59m 01s
Anybody knows which planet is there?
ppaooh 1 year ago
we will kill ourselves with WMD's before nibiru passes by. But if we dont kill ourselves and nibiru is real....It'd be one hell of a show!!
gtrmn355 1 year ago
@gtrmn355 sit out in the lawn pop a beer and watch the fire works
The007bdawg1 1 year ago
I seen it too on wwt a year ago and it hasn't moved. It is in Leo by the leg and on the same line as the sun.
surefoot4x4x4 1 year ago
My cousin's birthday is on december 21st man she is so scared
assult1995 1 year ago
good job man now if we can only get people to wake up less thab two years thats nothing
78tpel 1 year ago
I found planet x on WWT.
Select imagery: RASS:ROSAT
Coordinates: RA 05h 55m 35s DEC -04h 47m 18s
Focus a bit and you'll see a planet with wings
ppaooh 1 year ago
how do you know if this is supposly hitting earth what if it hits somewhere else? many of the websites are saying that this will be the end of the world which i think it will not happen..........
yet
muneca111 2 years ago
There's not much relevance to the video without a trajectory. Do you have some scientific facts as to where this object is going?
torga1956 2 years ago
according to the Spanish Starviewer team, this ( a brown dwarf) is located in the sagittarius constallation, but is visible in the WWT in infrared.
technoxes 2 years ago
damn this was found on my b-day
will i survive the 2012 doomsday?
indianajonesfan3 2 years ago
yes
memminger006 2 years ago 2
we all hope so
78tpel 1 year ago
damn, this was found on my b-day
will i survive the 2012 doomsday?
only god knows
indianajonesfan3 2 years ago
no .
memminger006 2 years ago
Man...went 2 coordinates....and there it is
Not convinced it's Nibiru though
It could be something else, what?? I don't know
lorddoug1 2 years ago
Well I guess our sun can beat the shit out of Nibiru
primoenthusiast 2 years ago
ya but the rest of us are on earth
78tpel 1 year ago
Watcher71B, thanks for the video and your ongoing efforts in working in the comments arena.
I read all sorts of things about 2012 and a thing I like about what you're doing is that you are very focused, clear and concrete.
Lamarrxyz 2 years ago
another blank spot
5h 18m 12s, 8 5' 52"
chatroomchaos 2 years ago
I found this pecouliar celestial body, which is shown only using the IR spectrum. I found it using the WWT initialy & then I said to my self,why not use the google/sky? Well, its there too,called GRO947+12. No other information, nothing...Not visible in normal spectrum! I wonder what's that thing!
minasfak 2 years ago
I passed on to NOSTARPANEL these photos, if you want a copy contact me.
There are "2" objects being blacked out
marlene4241 2 years ago
Excellent job with the camera!
Nice remake of the original!
marlene4241 2 years ago
Hey, Watcher71b, I got real interested in planet x after i saw red dust just hanging in the atmosphere on the day of the tsunami in the asian region. i was in perth western australia. check out 'red rain in india' youtube video. so annoying how the american gov rep just disses the whole idea.
TDG73 2 years ago
Quick question watcher71b, i hardly have any of the visual filters i see popping up in your menu's, any idea where i can get them from?
MrLovesca 2 years ago
The current Nibiru coordinates are - 9h 47m 57.30sec 13deg 16' 44.2", set the SDSS (SloanDigitalSkySurvey) and zoom in. Now set the IRAS layer to see it's infrared heat signature.
mulder2400 2 years ago
So it is now 5/7/2009 -- Are we still doomed? No bother packing anything? No more prayers? Start mass suicides? WHAT?
britsunc 2 years ago
Lol! You commit mass suicide if you want to....but me, I'm going to hold onto every second of the life God blessed me with!
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
When will the concious of the Human mind awaken from its sleep and your eyes be opened to understand that all your life you were taught to fear Fear the Bible Fear the Law Fear what? If the human race didnt want to destroy everything and become so violent then the Earth would be the paradise which it speeks inthe Bible. But this current race of Humans amounted to nothing they have to be Vanquished and Abolished from the face of the Earth for cleansing and the rebirth of a new Life system.
BigHeartedBear 2 years ago 2
Hmm a nice sentiment right up until the 'cleansing'....
Peace
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
???? I thought it was the red one, taht was the star!
tehtud2008 2 years ago
there is no god .. lol
xxSookaxx 2 years ago
for you low level reptilian
aldozx6r 2 years ago
Only God knows when world will end but maybe somthing is going to happen 2012 but not the end of the world and im lil bit cofused about this bullshit planet-x peace
istogal 2 years ago
its even weirder looking on google sky.
armstrongghetto 2 years ago
ive looked at it and done a bit of research and im going to argue that its a quasar not near us but emmiting immense heat
TheVoid 2 years ago
Interesting comment. Thanks for the contribution.
=)
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
yeah, it doesn't look like any strong evidence. maybe if there was a satellite that showed jupiter, maybe pluto or something and then nibiru close by.. it all seems like a way to make some quick money off the 2012 idea whether its fake or real..
sephsizou 2 years ago
Making money from a civil debate? Come on. Do you see any links to anything to buy here? Come on? Debunk by all means. But don't make pathetic, unfounded allegations OK.
PS, if you do know a way I could make some money from this please let me know....My other half has very expensive taste in shoes and I could use all the help I can get!
LOL.
=)
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
There are always doubters as planet X is seen in other parts of the world and photographic evidence exists. How can you tell me there are two suns in the skies now? One smaller (planet x) than the other. It is time to start praying and maybe it won't come close enough to our planet to cause serious damage.
jpsmart59 2 years ago
hey is it all right if i can download this n psot it on my youtube???=D
jammin18stacy 2 years ago
Sure feel free.......but stand by for the hateful Troll campaign that will come with it. Try to be fair and allow for a debate.....but don't stand for abuse or bad language...OK! I think the more people discussing whether or not this thing is real the better. Good luck!
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
k found on microsofts telescope.....
thats obviously the first "problem"....
altho, they did mess up the 911 footage very bad....i would THINK they would cover this up.....
gl
dgleason2 3 years ago
lol
Ereku2000 3 years ago
i swear its like a diesease to say fake
Scorpio251094 3 years ago
Not a disease at all, just back up what your saying. Make your point without abuse or bad language.
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
Part 3 Of a 3 Part Comment
It makes sense that the MASS (as proved by an x-ray that there is a mass at that point) is detectable before the heat signature. Definatly an interesting find, I will have to monitor it for a while to come and see what comes of it! Oh and when I used the finder scope there was no known information about this x-ray reading!!!
tbednar85 3 years ago
Precisely....it is unknown at this time....(officially)
Oh and parts 1 and 2 of your comments did not come through for some reason, happens to me all the time. Repost your comments as I think you have something to say. :)
WATCHER71B 2 years ago
With Worldwide telescope
RA: 05h53m25s
DEC: -05:59:02
Imagery RASS: ROSAT
I found a picture of a Planet or dwarf star similar to those I have seen in vids about Nibiru... Let take a look
ppaooh 3 years ago
this is all bs nothing is going to happen on 2012
crouchinyourmouth 3 years ago
So eloquent.....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
yeah i agree, but i do beleive there is a 10th planet that can possibly be inhabitted with the annunaki lol
JBxWinters 3 years ago
crouchinyourmouth, your opinion is based on what exactly? Have you even read any of the comments on here? WATCHER71B has repeatedly said this is a debate and everyone is welcome to an opinion for or against the proposed possibilty, provided they can substantiate with reasoned argument. To say its BS because you dont like it (and in truth are possibly even scared at the prospect of it being true) is NOT by any stretch of the imagination "reasoned argument". Ostrich, head and sand comes to mind.
niwty 3 years ago
I didn't saw the ??? really and i didn't read the comments before my post so i didn't knew someone else said the same thing.
baxteru 3 years ago
Good. U are most welcome to contribute to the debate anytime. ;)
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
That is Cw Leonis not "Nibiru"
baxteru 3 years ago
BAXTERU, until a recent update, my sources were claiming the object at those co-ordinates as unidentified. Indeed the object appeared to be completely removed from the cluster of stars bearing the CW Leonis designation (there are several, in a cluster and stretching out...) However after the latest update both G Sky and WW Telescope do indeed appear to identify this object as having the designation CW Leonis. Of that I'm not sure what to make. My cross referencing was sound...and honest...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
I have no axe to grind but merely seek answers. I would draw your attention to the question marks in the title, indicating that this is a debating point and that the debate on this page has evolved into a generalist debate about PX. In that light it shall remain as a debate about PX. Read up on the comments to see people expressing their views. Funnily enough I don't respond well to abuse LOL! I think the title will need to be changed to case solved!LOL. However a lot of questions remain....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
unaswered and this topic remains of great interest, for IF, IF something is on the way in, the general public would be the very last to know and yet the potential consequences of such an event would be catastrophic. So in that light the debate will continue. Hopefully as a lucid rational debate/ exchange of views and opinions.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
that is not "Nibiru". those coordinates are for the most well
baxteru 3 years ago
I thought Nibiru was a planet not a star? Wouldn't a star that big be seen already by most telescopes. ???????????????
bslinkymi112 3 years ago
mnemeth1 (1 month ago) on his channel
I took the video down because it was clear that the object was not a planet headed toward earth.
It is indeed a special kind of star though.
myY0UTUBEchanneI 3 years ago
But if Nibiru is coming from the south, "Only seen by the South pole" Then how could it be on the ecliptic? I don't think this is it... But nice try...
nasanction 3 years ago
PX is supposedly well below the plane of the ecliptic, it's orbit is highly elliptical and supposedly takes it well below and above the ecliptic.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
No.. Planet X CAN NOT be found.. It's a planet that's slowly moving towards Earth. So no, Nothing has ever found an image of it except Area 51. 2012 we will all be seeing it, and even a couple years before that. So just wait.
Lazewski 3 years ago
I looked at a lot of google sky images of nibiru,that's not nibiru either.
trickpack22 3 years ago
There's "nothing there" in the optical wavelength view because it's a normal planet passing right along on the ecliptic line and it was there in the IRAS survey, but it moves all the time so it wasn't there during any of the other surveys. These various surveys did not image the same spot of sky simultaneously.
messierhunter 3 years ago
There is some astronomer who thinks "Nibiru" may be a brown dwarf star, that is a companion to our sun (since binary star systems are most common), however he named this star "Nemesis". But according to Sumerian text "Nibiru" means Planet of the crossing, so is it a planet or a star. It may be a planet of this brown drarf star that the astronomer named "Nemesis". Very interesting video.
CharmedCosmicGem78 3 years ago 2
Indeed, Binary solar systems do appear to be the most commonly occurring solar system in the observed sky...which lends some credibility to those curious enough to attempt to figure out if there is anything to this. After all IF it is true...I suspect that the population at large would be the last to be informed. have you come across the results from the Ulysses probe..? Very interesting reading...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
sorry but marshal masters is a liar. he is out to sell his bullshit books. he has been debunked along with the google sky crap.
this video is just another scare tactic to sell more fear and not facts.
have a nice day
INSPECTOR12V2 3 years ago
Well...of course you are entitled to your opinion. Do you feel so much better for sharing that comment with the world? I hope so. Since I suspect that you are connected with an abusive whack job who recently got blocked, I'm watching you. Why you can't make your point without using abusive language is beyond me, or is your point that weak. 1 more comment and then I get nasty. make it a good one. Oh and ps debunk with facts not hearsay or abusive language. When you abuse people it makes you ...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
hearsay? everything you provide in this video is hearsay.
google sky is a faulty computer program and those blank spaces show up all over it.
and you have not shown any proof.
so don't threaten me with getting nasty since you are the one telling people their families will be murdered..go back to listen to the money hungry fear spreaders.
INSPECTOR12V2 3 years ago
Lol!!. Telling people their families are going to get murdered?...are you crazy!...Oh yes you are a nasty troll aren't Nookiboi!!!! Total Douche...go back to self harming you asshole...:)...!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
weak and pointless. Because you for some strange reason feel threatened by a debate, as this page is as to whether or not there is anything to this. Yet you feel threatened by that...strange, very strange. you must have a very lonely life. I am sorry for that, indeed I feel sorry for you. I await your abusive response as I am confident that you are incapable of rational debate. Oh Ps, if any body has an agenda here..i suspect it's you as the pathetic abusive e-mail and profile comments show...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Wow it didn't take long did it! that's a new record!...Well you seem like a charmer so get back under the bridge you nasty Troll. Go ahead and create new ID's...we can do this all night, since YOU clearly have nothing better to do with your time. How dare people debate and talk about something you disagree with!!!! Total loser you are so blocked!!!!..
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
But if it is not seen with the naked eye, (or actually the telescope, normal view eye) why is google earth hiding it? Google earth does not have all those fancy 'more then normal' views...
And I know Google earth is hiding it, its not a missing panel, its a pasted panel because you can see half a star disappearing below the panel...
Everytime I look up something that concerns Niburu/Planet X, I find more and more pieces fitting a perfect... Very scary puzzle...
Timecontroll 3 years ago 3
That last one is pretty cool liljemgsup
Whistler1978 3 years ago
Also search:
RA: 01h36m15s, Dec: 15:59:01
Zoom in. Asteroid? if not, what?
liljemgsup 3 years ago
Ok, I'm just back from a field trip, so I'm def gonna check these out, thanks for those! Keep em coming!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Using MS worldwide telescope, search this:
RA: 05h49m15s, Dec: -04:02:38
Zoom in. What is it?
liljemgsup 3 years ago
if you say its that hot youre saying there is no life on this planet. Its not coming!
TribalWar 3 years ago
First read the discussion on the page, then do some research.....and then.....and ONLY then.....comment....! Your assertions are irrelevant to the discussion on this page.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
My bad.
liljemgsup 3 years ago
My Bad....? What for? As far as I see you have provided something to the debate..! So Def not ' My bad'...! :)..! Thanx for your input and keep em coming! Peace!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
No infact I have been reading this for ages. I even believed it truly at one point. But as time goes on it is emerging that there is no threat, and as much as I hate to say it, is the creativity of human mind. We need some actual real evidence.
TribalWar 3 years ago
Tribalwar...I have not made an assertion that this planet is hot...infact I assert that IF....IF it is real....then it appears to be a Brown Dwarf, on a highly Elliptical orbit that possibly takes it well below the solar plane of the Ecliptic..therefor your assertions are not relevant to this debate. Obviously reach your own conclusions, me...I seek good strong scientific confirmation...and I think I may have it....details/Vid to come soon....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
What about the satellites though? Nibirus is supposed to be surrounded by satellites.
COuld it be that it's still too far away to determine anything and if so, wouldn't it take longer than 4 years to cross us?
djwaglmuffin 3 years ago 2
There is a lot of debate on the issue of satellites. IF it is real, some of the claimed time lapse pictures do appear to show at least 2 satellites. Historical records and other sources claim 7, so the debate continues....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
I was thinking about going south past the Equator for a vacation and taking pictures and video Planet Nibiru!
Reptilianmuseum 3 years ago 2
Well if you do get anything good, let us know! How far South of the Equator are you headed?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Reptilianmuseum, that has been a subject of debate here. To the best that I can ascertain this area is viewable from only just South of the Equator, literally only a few degrees into the Southern Hemisphere & for me that poses a problem as PX is supposedly only viewable from the Extreme Southern Hemisphere...However, that is only based on what I can ascertain, if any one can give a definitive answer with links to evidence re the latitudes this area of sky is viewable from, it would be most....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
...welcome & appreciated. Remember this here is a discussion about an interesting anomaly on GSKY & MS Telescope...& NOT the definitive evidence of Nibiru...it may well yet prove to be evidence of PX...for me, proof that this area of sky was infact only viewable from the extreme Southern Hemisphere would help...Oh sorry guys, I got a head cold...not latitude, I mean Longitude, sorry head colds made me thick....;) Does that help Reptilianmuseum..?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Doh! Damn this head cold! I did mean latitude....sorry guys. I'm gonna quit whilst I'm behind...LOL
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Is this in the southern part?
Reptilianmuseum 3 years ago
1/ It isn't me talking in the video...it's a repost as stated in the title...if you had read it...sort of puts your research abilities into question huh?
2/If you had actually read the debate you would see that we have debated CW Leonis and it is in the wrong part of the sky.
I cringe when venomous muppets like you come along. Whats your purpose in life? Do you have one? If we are crazy then leave us to our madness. how does it impact you? Do your research & then don't come back. Fail. Bye Bye
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Cw Leonis and R Leonis. Do your homework, there were several times in this video that I cringed while listening to you try to talk like you knew anything about this subject.
KevinTechnology 3 years ago
Yep its Cw Leonis, mnemeth1 discovered nothing marshall masters takes alot bunk seriously but only for profit.
nookiboi 3 years ago
Nookiboi, back again Trolling. I gave U the benefit of the doubt before, have U even downloaded the program yet? Anyway, for those who have the program, type in CW Leonis and see what shows up. Amazingly it is not this area of sky. So as a tiresome Troll who contributes nothing to the debate, let alone a valid debunk, in the immortal words of the landlord...'YOUR BARRED!'...Next time, at least download the program....Douche.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
If so what is the calculated interval between Polar reversal?...And where in that time frame are we currently...? Is talk of a Galactic plane of the ecliptic and the imminent traversing of that plane new age mumbo jumbo? What are the potential GEOPHYSICAL ramifications for the Earth in such an event?...And for other bodies in the Solar system, including the Kaiper belt and the Oort cloud...? Did Halleys comet suddenly flare up briefly as it departed the solar system?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
What could this suggest..?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
My sources of data regarding space sciences are Science based and not Metaphysical. Reality is mind blowing enough without embellishment. Do you have any idea how many near Earth objects whizz past the Earth in a month!? Some just appearing out of nowhere..? So I know where you are coming from, answer this question...In your opinion, does mainstream science believe that the Earth has experienced a magnetic pole shift in the past?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
...Just do some research. Other than that, my attitude is, well this MAY be possible...(Research the Oort cloud)...I then work on the mitigation of the event. I advise people not to do anything crazy, but to be capable of being self sufficient, so that they can take care of themselves and loved ones. If that offends you...too bad, LOL! A personal love of Astronomy and Space sciences also drives me on. Do you have any idea just how LITTLE we actually know about our own solar system...?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
watcher, if i may, would you mind sharing your credentials with us? You certainly have a lot to say and especially, its on a subject that indeed makes for interesting reading? I trust your research is taken from 100% proven sources as id hate to think your merely drawing conclusions from some highly sceptical and somewhat coincidental information :)
Ka0s007 3 years ago
A far question, although you do sound a little sarcastic. Still Skepticism is a good starting point for research on this subject. There really is so much BS out there on this topic. The purpose of this page is to generally discuss the topic and the various opinions on the matter. If you read my comments you will hopefully notice that I always begin with the caviate 'If it's true...' My first degree was in Sociology and Geo-politics and I am currently qualifying in Disaster management.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
This involves gaining an appreciation of the processes at work when an event happens. So I study Geophysics, Meteorology, Hydrology, Geology etc...My direction is actually towards risk management and disaster mitigation which perhaps informs the position I take on this subject. As for 100% proven sources...? You have to be kidding!? On this subject..? No I apply academic filtering. I test a theory as best I can, then discuss it. Everything I point out is available to anybody via the internet..
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
they didnt not remove the rock its there on the wwt so what are you bring up!
adrien4pizzly 3 years ago
Watch "are you ready? 3" for time lapse photos taken in a very southern part of the world!
Reptilianmuseum 3 years ago
Hi Watcher71B! Couple of questions. How can we know from the video that it is coming toward us? Is there any time lapse photo to show actual movement? Do you have a speed at which it is traveling? and a distance from us? Also, is this type of object extremely rare? It seems that there would be lots of things like that picture out there. WELL COOL DUDE, actually, if is coming at us not so cool, but... Say, is there any way to make it appear blue or red like Hopi Indians say it will look?
addaadollah 3 years ago 2
Ahh time lapse photography...the Holy Grail...! If I had the answers to half those questions the mystery would be solved! I have seen a couple of vids that claim to show time lapse photography that shows at least 2 orbiting satellites and a trajectory that indicates an approach...unfortunately unverifiable though. DL Google Earth, goto 09h 47m 57.38s Dec +13° 16' 43.6"' Zoom right in so the red object is large on your screen and there, orbiting the object is what some claim are several .....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
planetoids/planets/satellites in Orbit around the object. I 've studied these closely, captured the image, processed the image....and I am not totally dismissive. In processing at least 1 of the objects does appear to possibly be a planetoid....try it for your self. Be sure to use the installed version of G Earth as the online version will not let you zoom in as much. Remember that most images of the sky are NOT natural colour, but an artificial colour generated to show detail, so blue, red...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
..who knows? My attitude says approach this with open minded skepticism and see where honest open minded research takes you. Anyway, we're all going to know in the next few months whether or not it's real. By mid 2009 it is supposedly visible in the Southern Hemisphere. So really not long to go. My advice, just in case....start prepping anyway...NOW. NY will not be pretty if this shit IS real. The purpose of the discussion here is to exchange info and debate if there is any validity to PX.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Personally I hope it is NOT real....The timing will totally screw up my career plans....!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
oh look, a star!!!!!!!!!
alexns 3 years ago
Oh look...a fucking douchetard...!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Aswell as Seismic events of an intensity not experienced in modern times...reasonable extrapolations would also suggest that Pole shift is a distinct possibility. The list is endless. The Bio-sphere that is the Earth is interconnected. One event will likely cause another etc...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Painless Tragedy, welcome to the discussion. Read the rest of the comments, most people on here have managed to find the area this vid referances. I have had some updates to this area that are of interest. Vid to come soon. Re the heat from the Brown Dwarf. As I understand it it isn't actually going to come near us but swing around the Sun causing super massive coronal mass ejections...think of the Earth being flash fried. Research Super massive Coronal Mass ejections...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
these coronal mass ejections tie in with what
psychics and alternative scientists are projecting for the next few years -
I know its a bit quasi mystical but a few psychics have talked of the 1st 'red summer' in 2010 when the suns solar flare activity goes hyper , bathing the earth in dangerous microwaves ( ? ) I am no scientist so I am keeping an open mind about what will actually occur - but my gut instinct has been telling me for the last few years that this is coming .
chisacat 3 years ago
Chiscat, well now that is interesting. Apparently the Sun has been in an increasingly active mode roughly since the mid 40's. Most people are not aware of this but if there is 1 extraterrestrial killer that is the most likely to eradicate life on Earth...it is Super massive coronal mass ejections...far more likely than even an asteroid hitting the Earth. Virtually no warning and absolutely lethal. I, for one don't discount even the Quasi Mystical...even if I don't totally accept it.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
The interesting thing is that IF a Brown Dwarf IS heading into the Solar System, the Sun is going to react. The effect is most likely to be large Coronal Ejections...If PX has been on approach for many years, the upswing in Solar activity may be explained by the approaching Brown Dwarf/PX....If it is approaching, then it has been doing so for all of your life, my life, my grandparents lives, my great grandparents lives...etc, you get the picture..?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Like an approaching locomotive...that only recently with the advent of space technology....we have only just, in the last 30 years, been able to see coming...Somebody has metaphorically looked up and gone...'OH SHIT!...WHAT IS THAT!!!!?'...before filling their pants...LOL
My Gut tells me the same.....Network. Find good people around you. Don't do anything crazy. Learn about your local area, find out where in your local floods, learn how to purify water and how to feed your self...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
If you never need these skills....great! You'll have had some great camping trips and some good family time....Oh and a note to all..... Zeitgeist 2 is out. It is also on U Tube. DL and watch as a matter of urgency!...Good luck !
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Guys you can't find it because the government's bitch NASA Erased it from this Astronomy Program...Think? COVER-UP
PainlessTragedy 3 years ago
Most people estimate it will barely miss us, and we could suffer a servere polar shift which 90%-95% of the worlds population would siese to exist, but what about the heat from this Brown Dwarf, Wouldn't we all die from the Heat it puts off, Plz someone with Scientific Credentials email me with a response, CERN knows about Nibiru and is fighting for a working model of Time Travel threw Pre-Big Bang Dark Matter Particles, They know we don't have much time, They are our only hope of survival...
PainlessTragedy 3 years ago
Nice work their buddy.
8YoungBuck8 3 years ago
Young Buck....Nice work...? I can't find it.....?
Think and put some effort into looking for it...B4 you get sarcastic with me u Fucking Tard.
Nice attempt a t really crass shallow debunking...in fact...why am I talking to to a comestaine like you....Go back to marvelling at the exploits of LOHAN...BYE BYE RETARD.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Theres nothing there
8YoungBuck8 3 years ago
i cant find it!
Tenchcnet 3 years ago
oh i found it
Tenchcnet 3 years ago 2
I cant fuckin find it!!! :@
Hyoguraki 3 years ago
If it's very hot, then there is no living lifeforms right? so it contradicts the sumerians claim that Anunaki's came from that planet? or is it really a planet? or are we looking at a different planet X?
jinrahsdi 3 years ago
Read the debate that we have been having here....No it's not a planet, I believe it is a Brown Dwarf that has several satellite's, possibly 7, one of which the Anunaki supposedly live...although I certainly make NO CLAIM as to the Anunaki...I'm still working on whether there is something large coming this way OR NOT. You can think about Alien overlords if you wish...I am certainly not there yet!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
well, i was searching everything about a couple weeks ago based upon planet x. after reviewing and studying the films, i came to the conclusion that they are all mostly fake bullshit, but this is the most realistic thing ive come across and the thing thats scary is that its the newest information ive come across... really scary.
bjshaqattack 3 years ago
Personally I think that's the best attitude to have with this subject. Always research a claim, attempt to debunk it and if it doesn't stand up to debunking, if there is something that doesn't add up, investigate further. We have a good debate going on here, read some the rest of the comments, there are 2 good possible debunks in there that I am researching as we speak...and welcome aboard! I have also recently found some new info...vid to come soon...stay tuned!
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
I dont get it, planet x is a huge red star and its coming towards uss in tremendesly high speed and its not far from pluto and we still can see with our bare eye? ppl just relise that all this is fake... and remeber that if the U.S goverment coverd it upp so far what makes u think that they will forgot things like google sky and the MS teleskop? (sry for my bad english)
sppaopa 3 years ago
Hmm don't state it as fake until you have done some research. It is speculated as being a Brown dwarf (look up the characteristics of a Brown dwarf) which is why it can currently only be seen in the Infra red spectrum. Research the characteristics of an elliptical orbit. If you had read the debate and watched the vid then you would also know that google sky & WW Telescope haven't been overlooked..indeed that is what the debate is about...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
i geuss idident catch on so good, so is planet x heading towards earth? i feel so inferier now..
deathspleasure 3 years ago
Read the earlier comments....NO IT IS NOT GOING TO HIT THE EARTH....at leas as I understand it.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
It's interesting to me how many prophecies point to December 2012 when we have the galactic alignment. Some people think the reason for the chemtrails is to cover up PX around the time it is most visible - sunrise and sunset. What do you think about that?
NSXV70 3 years ago
yes that right, historical records need to be taken into account as a part of the whole picture. As far as chemtrails...there may be something going on but here in the UK we don't have the same thing occurring. As I understand chemtrails it has something to do with introducing a drug into the population, which leads me to conclude that there are easier ways of doing it...eg through the water supply...but I'm not really upto speed on them, tell me what you know/think..
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
If it doesn't collide with earth it will throw all the planets off their course and cause a pole shift and God knows what else.
NSXV70 3 years ago
That is certainly where my concerns are...at the end of the day pole shift and massive seismic and volcanic events, accompanied by all of their consequences (Massive Tsunami, nuclear winter etc) is the best case scenario, which is all we can work with. Lets face it if the worst case scenario happens...it's game over. Nothing we can do ...at all.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
i got a question
does planet X actually cross earth orbit or is it a planet that just thought to run into our earth :o
frozenstaz 3 years ago
Wow, well the answer to that wouldn't actually fit in the space alloted here...but if we first assume that PX does actually exist and follows the orbital path that it is often claimed, as I understand it, it is 'possible' for the Earth and the various satellite's around Nibiru/PX/Wormwood to collide with the Earth, indeed some claim it already has...the Pacific ocean....However the usual path and the one predicted for this flyby supposedly takes it around the far side of the sun....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
triggering super massive solar events. This is what poses the major threat to the Earth. On it's way in PX is subject to the gravitational influence of the larger solar bodies within the solar system and of course has it's own significant gravitational influence in turn. So in short if it exists, if it is where it is claimed to be and following the path that is claimed....only somebody with access to solar system modeling software could hope to predict the events of flyby...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
...again they would need access to accurate data as to the exact composition of Nibiru/PX/Wormwood to have any hope of modeling or predicting events. Another impact that is speculated is the triggering of polar shift and the catastrophic impact that would have on the Earths inhabitants. I take attitude of preparing....just in case. I sure hope I'm wrong that it's coming, I really don't want to be right...meanwhile I'll prepare as best I can...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Is it going to arrive in 2012..? I really don't know. It may not arrive for 100's of years. I do know that there are large bodies in the the Kuiper belt, that NASA is strangely quiet about yet you or I would call a planet, so the possibility of PX existing is raised somewhat by this fact, incidentally a large body passing through the Kuiper belt is going to bring lots of large junks of rock and ice with it, further into the solar system...remember shoemaker levi..?
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
So I hope I have been helpful, of course don't believe me on blind faith, instead take what I have said and go and research it, indeed try to debunk it...honestly. Look at the evidence you can find and subject it to academic cross referencing...Also observe the behavior of the powers that be as 2012 (& beyond approach). The state will not save you. The state wants to retain order and save the few it can or has chosen to save...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Research D.U.M.B's..Deep Underground Military Bases...specifically the amount suddenly being built across the globe...research Fema concentration camps. Those are a good starting point for any one. Looking for a reaction can often suggest the causation...indeed this is how Astronomers first found the outer planets. The state is clearly reacting/preparing for a significant event, in the near future. Look for overseas troops being returned home to keep order in the ensuing panic and....
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
subsequent declaration of marshal law....where ever you live in the world. do the research and connect the dots. Whilst they keep us in the dark the state retains the power. Good luck.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
WOW thank you for the remarkable answer
:)
but i do belive that no matter how advance our goverment tech is i doubt they have a weapon strong enough to destroy a planet heading straight for us anyway but they could be hiding anything is possibe in this world we live in :)
frozenstaz 3 years ago
Frozenstatz, your welcome but to clarify, none of the predictions for 'this' flyby indicate a collision with the Earth...if indeed it's true. The damage will be caused by super massive solar flares. Satellites and unshielded electronics will be subject to massive EMP that will render them useless and the the surface of the Earth will be bombarded with intense radiation...if it's true. So No there is no planet buster hidden somewhere...
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
The powers that be, I think plan on riding it out deep underground, leaving the vast majority of us to fend for ourselves...resulting in huge loss of life amongst a very surprised and unprepared population. So you can see why my attitude is that just in case it is true, one should prepare as best as one can. Networking is important. Your young so start learning how to feed yourself, learn about the effects of solar radiation etc. Find out as much as you can and then come to your own conclusions.
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Once again I thank you and I take the advice with gratitude.
I,ll look into this a little more for it have become an intresting subject. :)
frozenstaz 3 years ago
i dont think it is supposed to hit the planet. just come near enough to cause shifts.
lightfoot500 3 years ago
As I understand it, no it isn't going to collide directly with the Earth but is going to cause super massive coronal mass ejections that will cause devastation on the Earth. Also the gravitational influence as it swings around the sun may cause polar shift and trigger massive seismic events on the Earth. Dormant volcanoes will spring to life and new volcanoes will appear, also the movement of the crust will trigger super massive Tsunami,your going to want to be 100+miles inland..if it's all true
WATCHER71B 3 years ago
Times up Anix44....nothing of any substance to say....so time for some BLOCKAGE..!!!!
I was reasonable and gave you a chance to debunk with something of substance....and you didn't, you just enjoy pulling your little swizzle stick and abusing people...So your comments are going up your asshole & you, comestaine on the world that you are, have just ceased to exist....FAIL....!!!...BYE BYE!!!