@TheAwkwardCows I really want to believe you and I wish it was so. Yes Mormons only have one wife in our current day but that was imposed on them by Law and a condition of Utah being accepted as a State. However Polygamy is really the belief of the LDS church, whether you personally like it or not, it's still the central Mormon belief of marriage arrangement in Mormon Celestial Kingdom.
You have a right to your religion but not the right to mislead and deceive others into joining it.
OH THIS IS WAR!! HOW DARE THEM, HOW DARE HE SAID JESUS THE SAVIOR HAD 3 WIVES AND CHILDREN!! If you see this post Mormons!! You'll see, i'm coming, defending Jesus! and if Jesus would allow me, would come, and HELL is coming with me!! How dare you! how dare you!! Mormons, you are to be ashamed to be call mormons and aprove, believe, what these men said. How dare you!
@Chinaculiacan I am Mormon... I hope you research for yourself about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, instead of blindly believing a video post on YouTube. I believe Christ loves everyone. Even you, even me.
John 13: 34. "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you,".
@TheAwkwardCows " instead of blindly believing a video post on YouTube"
People don't blindly believe a video post on you tube, they research for themselves. I can assure you I was shocked and saddened when I discovered Brigham Young condemning monogomy.
Have you yourself researched the teachings of Brigham Young as recorded in LDS Journal of Discourses?
Most likely you haven't and I'm saddened in a way that you have come across this video. Perhaps ask your parents about Brigham Young.
@ElderJoseph I'm not sure if you are a christian, but if you read the bible there are moments in time when polygamy was practiced. Polygamy was practiced in the early church, but was ended shortly after Brigham Young's time.
@TheAwkwardCows I'm not a Christian. Yes you are correct there is Polygamy in the bible like there is Rape and Killing of Children which was practiced by the 'early church' you speak about. Those Biblical Israelites were a nasty piece of work on many occasions.
You mean well but really I think debating on you tube is not a good idea for you.
, I like ordinary LDS like yourself, but I can't extend that compliment to your church founders like J. Smith and B.Young. They are not worthy.
@TheAwkwardCows Not only this video, Your own history! You forgot to say I am a Christian, believing in Christ is what makes u a Christian, but instead u said I am a mormon! becuase u believed a man called Jose, a man that took other mans wives, little girls, and killed in his last days! Yeah you are a Mormon, Yes he loves, even me? ofcourse, my sins were great! but my Savior is greater!! keep your priesthood duties and ur tithing, it won't help u when u stand b4 God. His coming Rev 1:8.
@Chinaculiacan You're right. I should say I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Sometimes I get caught up using the term "Mormon" because it's what most people refer to us as. Thank you!
@TheAwkwardCows Well, isn't what u guys are? Mormons! U r a member? and that means what? that u get to live in Kalob with your many spiritual wives? or that u'll become a god? or that obeying the priesthood u'll get to go to heaven? or that by wearing an underware you'll b closer 2 God? or by tithing? or not drinking alcohol? but is ok to lust at girls behinds? or by having a number in a building? or by believing joe? u want me to go on?
@Chinaculiacan I don't think you understand what being a member is all about. We believe in God the Eternal Father and in his son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost. We hold ourselves to a higher standard so we wear modest clothing, follow the Word of Wisdom (no drinking tea, coffee, alcohol, doing drugs, and more), and we also believe that everyone is a child of God. Kalob? Kolab is another word for heaven that was used more in the 1800's. We believe that lust is wrong, but no one is perfect.
@TheAwkwardCows Yeah, u don't drink alcohol, tea, coffee, and lol. Higher standard? Yeap I couldn't have expect any other answer from a Mormon! when you feel you've done enogh to prove urself before God, stop.
We believe that God once went through a earthly life similar to ours, where he was tested and tried. He obtained celestial glory and created us, and now he wants us to obtain the same celestial glory that he has. Celestial glory is the highest kingdom in heaven where families are sealed together, and further glory can be obtained. The Terrestrial Kingdom is where good people who didn't accept covenants will go. The Telestial Kindom is where those who reject Christ will go.
Those who see Christ in the flesh and deny him will go to outer darkness (or hell). Brigham young said, that many would commit suicide if they knew the glory of the Telestial Kingdom. The reason we have temple covenants is so we can be sealed in families and hopefully move onto the Celestial Kingdom. We do not know what kingdom anyone is going to, and can't judge. Only God knows the intentions of our hearts. This is called the Plan of Salvation.
Read the bible, God allowed polygamy in the old testament only because of the lack of people around the earth, it got the ball rollin' if ya know what I mean. After Jesus died, i think even before that, that way of life was no longer permitted. It caused jealousy, and prejudice, and wars. God gave us the gift us marriage to bring two people together, to become one. It's a representation of the Relationship God has with his children, we are His.
@littlewingflys I have a life. It seems you are the one drained of any meaningful life wandering around you tube. If you want to waste even more time then I recommend you join the Mormon church. There isn't anything I can imagine that would suck a persons life out with lies like this cult does.
@littlewingflys The mormons trashed utah with all of the years of inbreeding and running utah like a 3rd world country, thats why mormons from utah are known to be one of theee dumbest in the US, they are the butt hole of jokes throughout the country
The only reason Joseph smith looked good or other men look good and fresh is to have slave wives, lots of sex and be king of their immoral castle. God will judge those men for ruining the lives of many.
All it is is greed, lust and avarice in the cast of lust with many women.
May God have mercy on any mans soul but MORE SO for the women and children who become their slaves and chattel. God said no such thing and you guys are not going to heaven right away for those harms.
@Advice4vice Obviously a man. Women should be freed from the brainswashing sex slavery from men who want tons of sex and servant wives.
Shame, shame, and more shame on men who have falsified the word of God and spit on Jesus and harmed women to boot.
Sure, don't knock it. Lets get women with a harem of husbands to work for them and have all the sex they want and see how fast you go running crying to God at that kind of justice.
All Elder Joseph has done here is display quotes from LDS publications. It's ineresting to see how LDS church members are unaware of what their past prophets have taught. The best source of anti-mormon literature comes from LDS publications. If you think Elder Joseph is taking material out of context, then go look it up. Most of the material can be found online.
Jacob censured the "stiffnecked" Jews for "looking beyond the mark" (Jac. 4:14). We are looking beyond the mark today, for example, if we are more interested in the physical dimensions of the cross than in what Jesus achieved thereon; or when we neglect Alma's words on faith because we are too fascinated by the light-shielding hat reportedly used by Joseph Smith during some of the translating of the Book of Mormon.
GodhatedJosephSmith. The guy wasn't exactly user friendly. If you go around asking for other mens wives, Marrying other mens wives, lying about it all and threatening those who are going to expose the fraud then you can't expect to live a long merry life.
Joseph ended up where all mafia type criminals end up.
He even stole the secret Masonic Inititaion Ceremony after swearing an oath to them he would never reveal it outside of the lodge.The Mormons have been using the handshakes ever since.
...you forgot to mention he had his peeping stone in the hat by which he "translated:. Probably one of the very magical stones he used long before his bof mormon project to find buried treasure.
I love the peeping stone! It was smaller and more transportable than the interpertures. The peeping stone did not need to be worn to be used.. it was easy put into a pocket and was quick to use when needed. It was the sports car of translation tools!!!
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I did watch your monogamy is evil video. I don't have a problem with it. Most of it is the different leaders and their opinion of WHY polygamy was acceptable. We know that ancient prophets practiced polygamy and we know that mormons also practiced polygamy. None of this is scriptural or prophetic just their opinions.
I have a request for you though. Why don't you go read Alma 24 verse 30 and let me know what you think?
Elder Joseph, you present this video as if it were made by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints. Using lies and deceit to your own agenda AGAIN.
Be careful. I'm sure there are copy right laws and laws to cover illegal representation.
Why use the term HATE out of context. Who is the person here that is really filled with hate? Did somebody offend you? If they did then try to forgive. You will feel so much better at the end of the day.
2morrowman I will remake this video.I was hoping that people would focus on the contents rather than the intended sarcastic intro. Those men did afterall speak as ands for The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I can assure everyone, I'm not here to deceive but only to enlighten with respect to realmormon history.
My methods are a bit begrudging of the church I know.
Yes I was offended, I was offended at all the deception I endured by the LDS Spin machine and a member too.
against famine and so is saying to only have one wife to help in that effort and share in the burden would wither and dry up a man. I am still searching for your other quotes. I really hope you are not intentionally trying to mislead. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Now see my friend here is one of those out of context things I was speaking of. You have a quote by Heber C. Kimball "I have noticed that a man who has but one wife, soon begins to wither..."That is in the JOD and reading it in your clip is infuriating. However reading it in the context given with all that proceeded and followed sheds new light on the quote. He was not speaking of sex or intimate aspects of having more than one wife. He was speaking on cultivating and storing food to prepare
changenow There is noithing out of context? Yes he speaks about storing food but what has that to do with anything? Are you suggesting somehow that multiple wives/women were used to support the man? Are they supposed to lok after him like some kind of Caeser Emperor!
Who looks after those women when they are old then?
I thought it was the man supporting the women in polygamy from what I was told in church?
He is talking utter rubish. Those in monogomy did not dry up and wither.
changenow Heber C. Kimball answers his own nonsense question on why does a polygamist not wither and dry up like a monogomist? He said because God loves that man, Does he infer then that God does not love a Monogomist man and causes him instead to wither and dry up? It doesn't make any sense.
On man and one wife can store as much as food as 50 wives and one man in relation to their own consumption. 50 wives would have to store 50 times as much.
who the hell are these people? and why the fck do i hear a church hymn from Church? that's bull. sounds like the convincing of one man's personal fleshy desires. if things were as such from the beginning, then why is marriage not discussed as such in the OLD BOOK, NEW BOOK, ANNND BOOK OF MORMON? go somewhere with this crap!
Peteyd80 Yes the unlucky ones were stuck with one wife. They can look forward to more wives in CK as this is Mormon Doctrine that a man has many wives but not only that, the women are forced into it in the name of God just like what the early LDS prophets did. How else could they screw lots of young girls when they were old and fat and smelly.
but if mormon must be sealed together to enter the highest degree of the CK, and most die only sealed to ONE spouse then how are these additional wives attained, as there will be no marriage after the resurrection.
dont confuse yourself, dude.. there are things i could explain, but not in english, i'm actually from brazil and i cant express myself that good.
but i can say something, i'm not attacking anyone but maybe you're trying to hit the church called "Community Of Christ Of LDS" or something like that. they just went out when poligamy was not 'cool' for us,and then they wanted to keep with that.You can see theyre having some trouble now a days.
O-K mister elder joe. that concept is corruption in prime brew. in every polygamous marriage i have ever seen, either that MORMON-wannabe church or any other culture that supports polygamy, is suffering in ways normal monogymous marriages could never suffer. yes, there is the casual pleasure of being surrounded by ones you're free to love and be with simultaneously, but over time that becomes a crowd. and the men who are in these marriages are usually fuck't up in the head, severely...
halogen I agree with you. Polygamy is a despicable abuse of women. The early Mormon Leaders became corrupt and Tyrannical under the twisted leadership Joseph Smith. The Fundamentalist Mormons headed by Warren Jeffs show us exactly what early LDS polygamy was really like.
LDS don't believe this... Such is false propaganda spread by satans spawns.
If your familiar with Iraq, it's the same kind of propaganda Fanatical Islam states about the U.S., using "some" truth to tell great lies. Or the same propaganda methods used by fanatical Islam about the Jews. Anti-mormonism is know different than anti-semitism. Even the Anti-Defamation League agrees with this point. It has condemned anti-mormonism malarky as this on several occasions, check for yourself.
As to whether you are Muslim or not, I did not address that, simply gave you some examples that you might be able to identify with as how how people "lie" about other groups. The same occurs to LDS.
You have to remember that the world doesn't understand sealing. It refers to all sealings as marriages and then infers that all relationships are sordid affairs and always involve sex. Sealings are spiritual in nature and mean that two people will be welded together beyond this present existence. Its got nothing to do with sex!
sticky Are you blind , can't you read or what ? This video is about Monogomy is evil as taught by LDS prophets and apostles.
And anyway Brigham Young screwed his teen wives after threatening them with hell if they disobeyed his marriage proposal.He probably dumped his older ones in the used trash .
A lot of ignorant people in this thread. LDS plural marriage wasn't about immorality or abuse, the FLDS perversion is. Further, the so called "ElderJoseph" in this thread is an ignorant immoral fool. Joseph Smith had a 100 times more character than this person. Further, Joseph Smiths marriages were "sealings", they were not plural marriages. That didn't start until Utah.
Further, Monogomy has always been the command of the Lord until commanded otherwise. Read your Bibles for once.
Smiths mariages commenced in Nauvoo with Fanny Alger and he married at least 33 Women well before the Utah period .He also married other mens wives and mostly teen girls including a 14 year old .
Yes lee, there are a lot of ingorant people on this thread and everywhere else.
Please do share with us your knowledge regarding Joseph Smith and the seer stone, translations with his head in a hat, his history as a convict, his failed banking attempt and the theft of investor funds, his multiple marriages, his lies and deceit, the missing gold tablets, his shooting three men and killing two in a prison escape.....
You should learn to not take lying "propaganda" as the truth. "ElderJoseph" of this thread has used SOME TRUTH to tell GREAT LIES about the LDS Church and it's leaders.
But, I guess you all who believe this crap must also believe fanatical Islams claims about Jews and America. Or the liberal lefts fanatic beliefs about 9/11.
leeuniverse Please tell me what the Great lies about the LDS church are then ?
Is it not true that Orson Pratt at age 57 married a 16 year old and was screwing her straight away ? or that Joseph Smith married a 14 year old when he was 37 ?
Or what about Orson Hyde wasn't he 52 yrs old and marrying a 16 year old also? All in the name of POLYGAMY which the LDS church believes wholeheartedly in.
And ElderJoseph, if I ever had a "hint" that you were actually interested in RESPECT thus knowing the WHOLE TRUTH of things, then I would spend my time explaining things for you, but, of the 1000's of anti-mormons I've actually tried to show the whole truth too, only ONE has ever apologized. Your not interested in the truth, your only interested in your own invested hate, just as any bigot is.
Mormon history has shown the blatant misuse of power by the American government. What gives the federal government jurisdiction over personal affairs? Why should they decide which unions are lawful and which are not? If people want to commit themselves to plural relationships or same-sex relationships, why does the government have to intercede? They have absolutely no right to outlaw plural or same sex marriages.
spudmustang Early Mormon women didn't want polygamy .They were coersed though religious Indoctrination.OLD men marrying young girls in the name of God .Thats why the government had to intercede.Mormon women today are grateful that polygamy has been outlawed.
So if a Baptist minister declares that all attractive young females in his congregation should have sex with him or they'll go to Hell, and some of them do, should the government intercede? You're taking the choice, and the responsibility, away from the individual. If minors or abuse are involved, then it's clearly a different issue. They should be charged for those crimes, not for have a polygamous relationship.
By the way, it's people like you who make me laugh. You're so worried about what other people are doing with their lives, that you have to go bashing what they believe in to make yourself feel better. I honestly pity you, and your lack of a life. Find your own religion and stick with it. You don't see Mormon's stampeding about everyone else's religion with signs of "You're going to hell" "Your leader is a liar", so get off ours. Thanks!
PayMae I don't believe you are going to hell !! lol You are a good believer .Please don't be too hard on me . I'm just telling the truth that is hidden from church members and investigators .have you seen my other videos .The Head in a hat one ?
No, but I was not just talking about you. People in general do that. You haven't done this on here, however others do. And I've already said about the 'hidden' truth. The Seer has no bearing on official LDS doctrine.
elderjoseph do you support whats in this video? cause its completly ridiculous, monogamy lets in diseases, last i heard your more likley to get aids if you have sex with multiple partners
killakadafi No I don't support whats in this video . I made it to show what the LDS Mormon church is really about .They are polygamists and still despise monogomy .. I've seen and heard it myself from many mormon men who look forward to their polygamy ..
I'm assuming you're not or ever were Mormon then right? Because if you were you would know that's not what the 'LDS Mormon church' is about. We don't believe in polygamy, and anyone you've heard that from that 'says' they're Mormon, are crazy. I think you're getting them confused with people like Warren Jeffs...
Oh, and for the record, yes, Brigham Young did have multiple wives, and was once practiced in the church, but this has since been taken away from Mormon doctrine. Thank you.
PeyMaetay Polygamy is still parcticed in the Mormon church .Widowed Mormon men are sealing additional earthly wives in the Temple ready for ploygamy and its still Doctrinal , read D&C 132 .Its just temporary suspended to comply with law.
Joseph Smith had multiple wives too including maried women.
Well I'm IN the Mormon church and I think I would know what is in my own religion.
How is a widowed man getting remarried any different in our church than it is to the rest of the world?
Joseph didn't marry women who were already married. God tried him to see if he was willing to give up his whole life, all he loved for the chruch, for God. Please get your facts straight before you rag on something.
And isn't it odd how it's always Mormons people are bashing??.. not any other Christians..?
PaeMae A mormon widowed man geting married again is different because he expects to call all his earthly wives into polygamy in the ressurrection. Joseph Smith married 11 married women .Its a FACT ! I'm sorry to break this to you .
You're not breaking a thing to me. I've already proven you wrong on other 'facts' you have claimed; whos to say these aren't just more of your 'facts'? Even if it WAS written by and LDS writer, and someone who is of high 'ranking' in the church, that doesn't make it true. One has to be able to dicern for themself whether what they teach is true. It's like the Aprocrypha; Has a lot of good things hidden within, but some of it is totally bogus.
PeyMaeTay Its very clearly shown that Joseph Smith was marrying other mens wives.
Its well documented in church members diaries and letters.This has been uncovered by Todd Compton(LDS writer)and confirmned by Richard Bushman in his book Rough Stone Rolling.
kay monogomism didnt let in prostitution, they've existed for a long time even when polygamy was accepted, nice try though at demonizing, but this is no differnt from the many religions before you and you acting no more ignorant than the sorry people who blindly followed it without thinking
Polygamy isn't the problem, it's the fact that these ugly egomaniacs abuse women and children. If there is a god, it wouldn't require anyone to have to go through these characters for salvation. And the belief that plural marriages will qualify them to be a god of their own planet is completely insane.
I don't think much of the women who go along with this bunk and let their young daughters live in the same house with these creeps.
Hi Rainbow , I've been going for two years .I've prayed about it and Brigham Young was a dangerous Cultist as I suspected .He was an arrogant Bigot and had no respect for women .They were to obey him without question.He 'called' teens to marry him while an old man and threatened damnation on them if they refused .Its disgusting .
did anyone notice that this DID say that LDS at one time did teach Jesus was married to three women. Yet there are many who are offended by the "divinci code" I am too, but it seems like in part that it might be LDS doctrine.
River2u There are many things which the LDS taught in the past and still believe behind because its caught up in their theology . They believe God is a polygamist , Jesus is a polygamist and that this is what women were made for , for man.The one thing which puzzles them in reality is monogomy .Their theology is against it.
It comes from shame because they are trying to hide how incorrect they are. To admit those doctrines are right would be to admit they were wrong, and perhaps the LDS Church was wrong. Been there, done that.
Wow, I've honestly never heard that one before. Never once have I heard God is a polygamist, nor Jesus, or is that what women are made for. They were made as a help-meet for man.
Honestly, where do you get this garbage? It's funny how you hear things 'Mormon's believe', when I've been Mormon all my life and have never once heard it.
It is sad how a modern society still has such uneducated, closed-minded citizens. If any of you took a moment to listen to the music of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, you will agree with me when I say, How can anything so beautiful come from an evil group of people? You should also know that members of the LDS church do NOT practice polygamy.
najoiv Members of the LDS church practice multiple sealings in the temple in effect preparing polygamy for the afterlife .A mormon widower can seal his additional earthly wives and they do ! Polygamy lives on .
I think there are many things about the afterlife that we are not yet prepared to understand, or develop opinions about. We are human, and could never comprehend all that God has in store for us.
najoiv . There is NOTHING you know about or can comprehend about the next life .God has not got in store for Mormon men to be screwing multiple teenagers like Brigham Young did , simple as that.You should be ashamed of yourself .
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I don know that mormons today do not practice polygamy. Brigham Young was a propbet of the church in the 1800'. That was a while ago, don't you agree? As far as what happens in the next life, I don't know, and certainly neither do you.
najoiv Brigham Young 'called' girls into polygamy,It was a frightening repulsive situation for these girls as they were threatened with Damnation if they disobeyed.The church has no respect for these girls and instead just blot theor names out of the church books like it never happened .Same with Joseph Smith,they prefer to show him as a monogomist.The DVD's are whitewashed to eradicate polygamy which they believe in.Its deception.
If there was still a problem that, I'd be married off already. Honestly, you're talking about religions that branched off of the LDS church. Psychos like Warren Jeffs. Have you met many Mormon's nowdays that are being put in court of doing any of this? Okay then... I think I've said enough. In short, no one cares if you hate us. Just be sure to tell the truth. Which from what I see, you're not doing a good job.
PeyMae i don't hate you .I attended church myself.Warren Jeffs is actually doing exactly the same as Brigham Young ( Arranging marriages of young girls to old men)
JOD VOL 9 page 37 Brigham Young
How will you be happy? Love the Giver more than the gift. Delight yourselves in your duties, mothers. Here are the MIDDLE-AGED and the YOUNG. I am now almost daily sealing YOUNG GIRLS to MEN OF AGE and experience.
You do know that Brigham Young was commanded that correct? And =when the law was changed that polygamy was not to happen, it stopped. He said something to the effect of 'complying to the law' because we are to follow the laws of the land. Now obviously, don't quote me on that directly.
Brigham was called of God. Jeffs was not; there is a difference in what they were doing.
And they aren't marrying them and sealing them so that they can be polygamists. There are other reasons for that.
Pae Mae Warren Jeffs will claim that polygamy is an everlasting covenant and the William Woodruff apostasised the church for suspending it temporarily ..Brigham Young was not called of God .He taught that Adam is God the Father .
The funny thing is, you keep saying things that they obviously don't teach anymore or never did, because yet again I've never heard it. If 'all Mormons' believed this, like you're pretty much claiming, then I think I'd have at least heard it. How am I to trust one such as you who I've already proven wrong?
PeyMae The reason you haven't heard about it is because the church likes to brush under the carpet its true history.Its kept from church members like yourself.Have you seen my new Video Adam is God ?
Another good video. It speaks well for itself. Sad how Adria20 gets offended by early Mormon leaders, then says you are going to hell. Those early Mormon leaders are obviously the ones boastfully missing Christ and heaven.
igazzini The typical blinded Mormon mindset is very scary ! they think everything their False prophets prophets did is from God and acceptable .But the good News is I've met Mormons now who know its all a Sham and a Con and its growing fast .The Church's days are numbered and a reformation or collapse is due ! Amen
adria I don't know , because I'm not expecting to go there .I'm not the one lying and decieving people into joining a man made cult called Latter day saints where teen women were used for screwing older men calling themselves prophets and apostles . Its so simple really .
you are a complete hater, i don't know what mormons have done to you, but it seems like you're hurted...idk why though...i just a see an immature man trying to make the mormons look bad. i don't get it...what's the whole point of this videos?
artemiskunzite Grow up a little and keep away from here .You are too young to understand or know what you are talking about.One day you will understand .
no...cause i am mormon, and this is just retarded...maybe i'm 17..and i'm immature..and that's bad..but is WORST seeing a 45 yeard old man like you, making this stupid nonesense video...really..did you have childhood? or? like..what?
i've already done that...and they watch this video..and they said it was complete out of context..they explaint me that in antiant history, it was ok to have more than one wife...but then they, realized that i was wrong or whatever...or it was against the law...NOWdays..it's bad-looked to have more than one wife, but you're just taking everything out of context and making the mormon church look bad. duh!
artemis ... 150 years ago is not ancient History . Polygamy was abuse of women . Brighma Young was a religious fanatic and bully . Women hated polygamy .They were threatened into it ... Wake UP you fool .Its a cult ! Joseph Smith was a filthy child abuser as well ! One day you will know that your parents are talking bullshit !
Brighma Young was a fanati and bully in YOUR opinion..it's your though in your fucked up head....i think you're a fuckin pedophile who has lost it..really...go to a pshychitrist...
artemis Go and see your bishop and REPENT ( repent properly and not a fake one ), you are not Worthy ... you are displaying dangerous Brighmam Young qualities yourself...typical Mormon fanatic .
artemis .. Why don't you go to church , why defend something you want nothing to do with ? I don't have issues .I'm just showing people the real history and teaching of these so called Mormon Leaders .
polygamy is fine - as long as it is consenting adults. that said, while joseph smith was clearly a genius, i cannot understand why anyone would believe that nonsense (or any religion for that matter)
therealgeeza , I agree with you, and all things should be fine between consenting adults.However Mormon Polygamy was not really consenting on the womans part , they were doing it because they believed they had to and their eternal destiny was at stake and that is wrong.Mormon men used their false religious power and authority to co-erse and scare unsuspecting women into it, all based on a false belief. A real tragedy .
Well if you actually finish reading the whole part you will see what he is talking about, as in God asking Abraham to kill his son. You have to read everything not just pick out tidbits and say this is the meaning.
What on earth were these men ?( Idiots) thinking of at the time . Its absolutely ridiculous what they created out of Joseph Smith's Con and the events which tragically followed .
Mormons believe in only having one spouse. Why do you twist and derange these words into hateful spite? Everyone has the right to their own religion.
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago 3
@TheAwkwardCows I really want to believe you and I wish it was so. Yes Mormons only have one wife in our current day but that was imposed on them by Law and a condition of Utah being accepted as a State. However Polygamy is really the belief of the LDS church, whether you personally like it or not, it's still the central Mormon belief of marriage arrangement in Mormon Celestial Kingdom.
You have a right to your religion but not the right to mislead and deceive others into joining it.
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
OH THIS IS WAR!! HOW DARE THEM, HOW DARE HE SAID JESUS THE SAVIOR HAD 3 WIVES AND CHILDREN!! If you see this post Mormons!! You'll see, i'm coming, defending Jesus! and if Jesus would allow me, would come, and HELL is coming with me!! How dare you! how dare you!! Mormons, you are to be ashamed to be call mormons and aprove, believe, what these men said. How dare you!
Chinaculiacan 7 months ago
@Chinaculiacan I am Mormon... I hope you research for yourself about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, instead of blindly believing a video post on YouTube. I believe Christ loves everyone. Even you, even me.
John 13: 34. "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you,".
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago 2
@TheAwkwardCows " instead of blindly believing a video post on YouTube"
People don't blindly believe a video post on you tube, they research for themselves. I can assure you I was shocked and saddened when I discovered Brigham Young condemning monogomy.
Have you yourself researched the teachings of Brigham Young as recorded in LDS Journal of Discourses?
Most likely you haven't and I'm saddened in a way that you have come across this video. Perhaps ask your parents about Brigham Young.
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
@ElderJoseph I'm not sure if you are a christian, but if you read the bible there are moments in time when polygamy was practiced. Polygamy was practiced in the early church, but was ended shortly after Brigham Young's time.
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago
@TheAwkwardCows I'm not a Christian. Yes you are correct there is Polygamy in the bible like there is Rape and Killing of Children which was practiced by the 'early church' you speak about. Those Biblical Israelites were a nasty piece of work on many occasions.
You mean well but really I think debating on you tube is not a good idea for you.
, I like ordinary LDS like yourself, but I can't extend that compliment to your church founders like J. Smith and B.Young. They are not worthy.
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
@TheAwkwardCows Not only this video, Your own history! You forgot to say I am a Christian, believing in Christ is what makes u a Christian, but instead u said I am a mormon! becuase u believed a man called Jose, a man that took other mans wives, little girls, and killed in his last days! Yeah you are a Mormon, Yes he loves, even me? ofcourse, my sins were great! but my Savior is greater!! keep your priesthood duties and ur tithing, it won't help u when u stand b4 God. His coming Rev 1:8.
Chinaculiacan 7 months ago
@Chinaculiacan You're right. I should say I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Sometimes I get caught up using the term "Mormon" because it's what most people refer to us as. Thank you!
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago 2
@TheAwkwardCows Well, isn't what u guys are? Mormons! U r a member? and that means what? that u get to live in Kalob with your many spiritual wives? or that u'll become a god? or that obeying the priesthood u'll get to go to heaven? or that by wearing an underware you'll b closer 2 God? or by tithing? or not drinking alcohol? but is ok to lust at girls behinds? or by having a number in a building? or by believing joe? u want me to go on?
Chinaculiacan 7 months ago
@Chinaculiacan I don't think you understand what being a member is all about. We believe in God the Eternal Father and in his son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost. We hold ourselves to a higher standard so we wear modest clothing, follow the Word of Wisdom (no drinking tea, coffee, alcohol, doing drugs, and more), and we also believe that everyone is a child of God. Kalob? Kolab is another word for heaven that was used more in the 1800's. We believe that lust is wrong, but no one is perfect.
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago
@TheAwkwardCows Yeah, u don't drink alcohol, tea, coffee, and lol. Higher standard? Yeap I couldn't have expect any other answer from a Mormon! when you feel you've done enogh to prove urself before God, stop.
Chinaculiacan 7 months ago
We believe that God once went through a earthly life similar to ours, where he was tested and tried. He obtained celestial glory and created us, and now he wants us to obtain the same celestial glory that he has. Celestial glory is the highest kingdom in heaven where families are sealed together, and further glory can be obtained. The Terrestrial Kingdom is where good people who didn't accept covenants will go. The Telestial Kindom is where those who reject Christ will go.
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago
Those who see Christ in the flesh and deny him will go to outer darkness (or hell). Brigham young said, that many would commit suicide if they knew the glory of the Telestial Kingdom. The reason we have temple covenants is so we can be sealed in families and hopefully move onto the Celestial Kingdom. We do not know what kingdom anyone is going to, and can't judge. Only God knows the intentions of our hearts. This is called the Plan of Salvation.
TheAwkwardCows 7 months ago
Hey guess what.
Nobody with a name like that should be taken seriously.
thesignsoflife7 11 months ago
hey guys geuss what.....there is no god, muhammad, zeus, etc.
poopflinga98 1 year ago
I could care less I'm not LDS
littlewingflys 1 year ago
Read the bible, God allowed polygamy in the old testament only because of the lack of people around the earth, it got the ball rollin' if ya know what I mean. After Jesus died, i think even before that, that way of life was no longer permitted. It caused jealousy, and prejudice, and wars. God gave us the gift us marriage to bring two people together, to become one. It's a representation of the Relationship God has with his children, we are His.
JustASceneToHate 1 year ago
good vid ;) thank you
MALDITTOROKKERO 1 year ago
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littlewingflys 1 year ago
@littlewingflys What exactly are you talking about? Yes the LDS church abandoned its Polygamy in favour of Statehood.
However my video is about the original LDS leaders claiming that Monogomy is Evil. Do you believe that Monogomy is evil too?
ElderJoseph 1 year ago
@ElderJoseph Get a life elder NO PROSELYTIZING
littlewingflys 1 year ago
@littlewingflys I have a life. It seems you are the one drained of any meaningful life wandering around you tube. If you want to waste even more time then I recommend you join the Mormon church. There isn't anything I can imagine that would suck a persons life out with lies like this cult does.
ElderJoseph 1 year ago
@littlewingflys The mormons trashed utah with all of the years of inbreeding and running utah like a 3rd world country, thats why mormons from utah are known to be one of theee dumbest in the US, they are the butt hole of jokes throughout the country
chainsticks88 1 year ago
The only reason Joseph smith looked good or other men look good and fresh is to have slave wives, lots of sex and be king of their immoral castle. God will judge those men for ruining the lives of many.
All it is is greed, lust and avarice in the cast of lust with many women.
May God have mercy on any mans soul but MORE SO for the women and children who become their slaves and chattel. God said no such thing and you guys are not going to heaven right away for those harms.
wwwpower1 1 year ago
Don't knock polygamy until you've tried it. :)
Advice4vice 2 years ago
@Advice4vice Obviously a man. Women should be freed from the brainswashing sex slavery from men who want tons of sex and servant wives.
Shame, shame, and more shame on men who have falsified the word of God and spit on Jesus and harmed women to boot.
Sure, don't knock it. Lets get women with a harem of husbands to work for them and have all the sex they want and see how fast you go running crying to God at that kind of justice.
MAN MADE religion for lust and greed.
wwwpower1 1 year ago
All Elder Joseph has done here is display quotes from LDS publications. It's ineresting to see how LDS church members are unaware of what their past prophets have taught. The best source of anti-mormon literature comes from LDS publications. If you think Elder Joseph is taking material out of context, then go look it up. Most of the material can be found online.
deaconj1234 2 years ago
MORMONS EXPOSED . COM
Garrett4JesusChrist 3 years ago
Jacob censured the "stiffnecked" Jews for "looking beyond the mark" (Jac. 4:14). We are looking beyond the mark today, for example, if we are more interested in the physical dimensions of the cross than in what Jesus achieved thereon; or when we neglect Alma's words on faith because we are too fascinated by the light-shielding hat reportedly used by Joseph Smith during some of the translating of the Book of Mormon.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Jacob who? brother Of Nephi? neither ever existed. Stiffnecked Jews?
More like Stiff brain Mormons if you ask me. Take your joke of a book elsewhere.Maybe Walt Disney can do something with it.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
GodhatedJosephSmith. The guy wasn't exactly user friendly. If you go around asking for other mens wives, Marrying other mens wives, lying about it all and threatening those who are going to expose the fraud then you can't expect to live a long merry life.
Joseph ended up where all mafia type criminals end up.
He even stole the secret Masonic Inititaion Ceremony after swearing an oath to them he would never reveal it outside of the lodge.The Mormons have been using the handshakes ever since.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
...you forgot to mention he had his peeping stone in the hat by which he "translated:. Probably one of the very magical stones he used long before his bof mormon project to find buried treasure.
anselmiano 2 years ago
I love the peeping stone! It was smaller and more transportable than the interpertures. The peeping stone did not need to be worn to be used.. it was easy put into a pocket and was quick to use when needed. It was the sports car of translation tools!!!
MrNirom 2 years ago
@GodLovedJosephSmith
The Jacob of the Bible.
He existed.
This BoM 'Jacob'?
A figment of your prophet's imagination.
thesignsoflife7 11 months ago
Ouch.. a sacrament hymn.
stengevarsel 3 years ago
Sorry it took me so long to respond. I did watch your monogamy is evil video. I don't have a problem with it. Most of it is the different leaders and their opinion of WHY polygamy was acceptable. We know that ancient prophets practiced polygamy and we know that mormons also practiced polygamy. None of this is scriptural or prophetic just their opinions.
I have a request for you though. Why don't you go read Alma 24 verse 30 and let me know what you think?
debbittybears 3 years ago
debitty Those 'leaders' claimed to be PROPHETS and AOSTLES and speaking for GOD.
We know Ancient Prophets were very sinful men.Thats no excuse to follow in their manly earthly footsteps.
Alma 24 verse 30 Is an idea copied from a biblical verse Hebrews 6:4-6. I think there is another similar also.
Cult leaders will use it to control there members and get away with marrying their members wives and teen daughters, like Joseph Smith did.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
Elder Joseph, you present this video as if it were made by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints. Using lies and deceit to your own agenda AGAIN.
Be careful. I'm sure there are copy right laws and laws to cover illegal representation.
Why use the term HATE out of context. Who is the person here that is really filled with hate? Did somebody offend you? If they did then try to forgive. You will feel so much better at the end of the day.
2morrowman 3 years ago
2morrowman I will remake this video.I was hoping that people would focus on the contents rather than the intended sarcastic intro. Those men did afterall speak as ands for The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
I can assure everyone, I'm not here to deceive but only to enlighten with respect to realmormon history.
My methods are a bit begrudging of the church I know.
Yes I was offended, I was offended at all the deception I endured by the LDS Spin machine and a member too.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
thanks for your reply. I appreciated it. I'm sure you will still get your point across.
God bless you brother.
2morrowman 3 years ago
against famine and so is saying to only have one wife to help in that effort and share in the burden would wither and dry up a man. I am still searching for your other quotes. I really hope you are not intentionally trying to mislead. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
changenow777 3 years ago
Now see my friend here is one of those out of context things I was speaking of. You have a quote by Heber C. Kimball "I have noticed that a man who has but one wife, soon begins to wither..."That is in the JOD and reading it in your clip is infuriating. However reading it in the context given with all that proceeded and followed sheds new light on the quote. He was not speaking of sex or intimate aspects of having more than one wife. He was speaking on cultivating and storing food to prepare
changenow777 3 years ago
changenow There is noithing out of context? Yes he speaks about storing food but what has that to do with anything? Are you suggesting somehow that multiple wives/women were used to support the man? Are they supposed to lok after him like some kind of Caeser Emperor!
Who looks after those women when they are old then?
I thought it was the man supporting the women in polygamy from what I was told in church?
He is talking utter rubish. Those in monogomy did not dry up and wither.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
changenow Heber C. Kimball answers his own nonsense question on why does a polygamist not wither and dry up like a monogomist? He said because God loves that man, Does he infer then that God does not love a Monogomist man and causes him instead to wither and dry up? It doesn't make any sense.
On man and one wife can store as much as food as 50 wives and one man in relation to their own consumption. 50 wives would have to store 50 times as much.
He is simply slagging off monogomy.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
Cult. Filthy. What a joke to push their concept of marriage on others. Losers.
SparkinSF 3 years ago
who the hell are these people? and why the fck do i hear a church hymn from Church? that's bull. sounds like the convincing of one man's personal fleshy desires. if things were as such from the beginning, then why is marriage not discussed as such in the OLD BOOK, NEW BOOK, ANNND BOOK OF MORMON? go somewhere with this crap!
halogenC4 3 years ago
you know more often than not these days, mormon women outlive their mormon husbands. so most mormon men today are sealed to only one wife.
peteyd80 3 years ago
Peteyd80 Yes the unlucky ones were stuck with one wife. They can look forward to more wives in CK as this is Mormon Doctrine that a man has many wives but not only that, the women are forced into it in the name of God just like what the early LDS prophets did. How else could they screw lots of young girls when they were old and fat and smelly.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
but if mormon must be sealed together to enter the highest degree of the CK, and most die only sealed to ONE spouse then how are these additional wives attained, as there will be no marriage after the resurrection.
peteyd80 3 years ago
ask a Mormon? Nothing makes sense anyway from them to me.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
I would like to first know where your resources come from?
panicfan77100 3 years ago
dont confuse yourself, dude.. there are things i could explain, but not in english, i'm actually from brazil and i cant express myself that good.
but i can say something, i'm not attacking anyone but maybe you're trying to hit the church called "Community Of Christ Of LDS" or something like that. they just went out when poligamy was not 'cool' for us,and then they wanted to keep with that.You can see theyre having some trouble now a days.
hope you can understand what ive tryed to mean
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Sabbathfiend 3 years ago
Sabbathfiend We are talking about THE LDS MORMON CHURCH, who send out illinformed young kids to do their lying for them.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
O-K mister elder joe. that concept is corruption in prime brew. in every polygamous marriage i have ever seen, either that MORMON-wannabe church or any other culture that supports polygamy, is suffering in ways normal monogymous marriages could never suffer. yes, there is the casual pleasure of being surrounded by ones you're free to love and be with simultaneously, but over time that becomes a crowd. and the men who are in these marriages are usually fuck't up in the head, severely...
halogenC4 3 years ago
halogen I agree with you. Polygamy is a despicable abuse of women. The early Mormon Leaders became corrupt and Tyrannical under the twisted leadership Joseph Smith. The Fundamentalist Mormons headed by Warren Jeffs show us exactly what early LDS polygamy was really like.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
why do LDS think the black americans are evil.....isn't that racist?
iraqfootball 3 years ago
LDS don't believe this... Such is false propaganda spread by satans spawns.
If your familiar with Iraq, it's the same kind of propaganda Fanatical Islam states about the U.S., using "some" truth to tell great lies. Or the same propaganda methods used by fanatical Islam about the Jews. Anti-mormonism is know different than anti-semitism. Even the Anti-Defamation League agrees with this point. It has condemned anti-mormonism malarky as this on several occasions, check for yourself.
leeuniverse 3 years ago
I'm not Muslim :D I'm Christian. Isn't it a church doctrine that the evil spirites are blacks?
iraqfootball 3 years ago
Nope.... Not at all.
Like I said, false propaganda spread by liars.
As to whether you are Muslim or not, I did not address that, simply gave you some examples that you might be able to identify with as how how people "lie" about other groups. The same occurs to LDS.
leeuniverse 3 years ago
You have to remember that the world doesn't understand sealing. It refers to all sealings as marriages and then infers that all relationships are sordid affairs and always involve sex. Sealings are spiritual in nature and mean that two people will be welded together beyond this present existence. Its got nothing to do with sex!
sticky793 4 years ago
sticky Are you blind , can't you read or what ? This video is about Monogomy is evil as taught by LDS prophets and apostles.
And anyway Brigham Young screwed his teen wives after threatening them with hell if they disobeyed his marriage proposal.He probably dumped his older ones in the used trash .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Much like what FLDS in Eldorado, Tx. has been doing, until they got caught!!
Outlaw1257 3 years ago
A lot of ignorant people in this thread. LDS plural marriage wasn't about immorality or abuse, the FLDS perversion is. Further, the so called "ElderJoseph" in this thread is an ignorant immoral fool. Joseph Smith had a 100 times more character than this person. Further, Joseph Smiths marriages were "sealings", they were not plural marriages. That didn't start until Utah.
Further, Monogomy has always been the command of the Lord until commanded otherwise. Read your Bibles for once.
leeuniverse 3 years ago
Lee I agree there are alot of ingnorant people.
Smiths mariages commenced in Nauvoo with Fanny Alger and he married at least 33 Women well before the Utah period .He also married other mens wives and mostly teen girls including a 14 year old .
You need to educate yourself,
do some research and then come back again.
FLDS is doing what early LDS introduced.
Orson Pratt was screwing a 16 year old at age 57.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
Yes lee, there are a lot of ingorant people on this thread and everywhere else.
Please do share with us your knowledge regarding Joseph Smith and the seer stone, translations with his head in a hat, his history as a convict, his failed banking attempt and the theft of investor funds, his multiple marriages, his lies and deceit, the missing gold tablets, his shooting three men and killing two in a prison escape.....
And much more.
We await your learned response.
MACKATTACK1970 3 years ago
i'm not a mormon and i dont think there evil
lukeous69 4 years ago 2
People may take you more seriously if you knew the difference between 'there' and 'their'.
MACKATTACK1970 3 years ago
Bringhem Young was a pervert.
Joseph Smith was a con man.
Their followers were and are Morons.
johninves 4 years ago
You should learn to not take lying "propaganda" as the truth. "ElderJoseph" of this thread has used SOME TRUTH to tell GREAT LIES about the LDS Church and it's leaders.
But, I guess you all who believe this crap must also believe fanatical Islams claims about Jews and America. Or the liberal lefts fanatic beliefs about 9/11.
Get a clue people....
leeuniverse 3 years ago
leeuniverse Please tell me what the Great lies about the LDS church are then ?
Is it not true that Orson Pratt at age 57 married a 16 year old and was screwing her straight away ? or that Joseph Smith married a 14 year old when he was 37 ?
Or what about Orson Hyde wasn't he 52 yrs old and marrying a 16 year old also? All in the name of POLYGAMY which the LDS church believes wholeheartedly in.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
And ElderJoseph, if I ever had a "hint" that you were actually interested in RESPECT thus knowing the WHOLE TRUTH of things, then I would spend my time explaining things for you, but, of the 1000's of anti-mormons I've actually tried to show the whole truth too, only ONE has ever apologized. Your not interested in the truth, your only interested in your own invested hate, just as any bigot is.
leeuniverse 3 years ago
what a Crap excuse from you.You are not worthy to be LDS.Another wolf in sheeps clothing.
ElderJoseph 3 years ago
if you love God johninves you would not talk about outher people..thats sad
lukeous69 3 years ago
Well gee that's ignorant.
If we don't criticize or judge others how do function as human beings.
I guess it would be wrong to talk about Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson also according to your comment.
MACKATTACK1970 3 years ago
Mormon history has shown the blatant misuse of power by the American government. What gives the federal government jurisdiction over personal affairs? Why should they decide which unions are lawful and which are not? If people want to commit themselves to plural relationships or same-sex relationships, why does the government have to intercede? They have absolutely no right to outlaw plural or same sex marriages.
spudmustang 4 years ago 2
spudmustang Early Mormon women didn't want polygamy .They were coersed though religious Indoctrination.OLD men marrying young girls in the name of God .Thats why the government had to intercede.Mormon women today are grateful that polygamy has been outlawed.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
So if a Baptist minister declares that all attractive young females in his congregation should have sex with him or they'll go to Hell, and some of them do, should the government intercede? You're taking the choice, and the responsibility, away from the individual. If minors or abuse are involved, then it's clearly a different issue. They should be charged for those crimes, not for have a polygamous relationship.
spudmustang 4 years ago 2
Mormons are just relgious versions of Hugh Hefner.
19PHS74 4 years ago
By the way, it's people like you who make me laugh. You're so worried about what other people are doing with their lives, that you have to go bashing what they believe in to make yourself feel better. I honestly pity you, and your lack of a life. Find your own religion and stick with it. You don't see Mormon's stampeding about everyone else's religion with signs of "You're going to hell" "Your leader is a liar", so get off ours. Thanks!
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PayMae I don't believe you are going to hell !! lol You are a good believer .Please don't be too hard on me . I'm just telling the truth that is hidden from church members and investigators .have you seen my other videos .The Head in a hat one ?
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
No, but I was not just talking about you. People in general do that. You haven't done this on here, however others do. And I've already said about the 'hidden' truth. The Seer has no bearing on official LDS doctrine.
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
elderjoseph do you support whats in this video? cause its completly ridiculous, monogamy lets in diseases, last i heard your more likley to get aids if you have sex with multiple partners
killakadafi77 4 years ago
killakadafi No I don't support whats in this video . I made it to show what the LDS Mormon church is really about .They are polygamists and still despise monogomy .. I've seen and heard it myself from many mormon men who look forward to their polygamy ..
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
ok i see. This stuff is crazy there like pimps
killakadafi77 4 years ago
elder joseph were u once a Mormon?
killakadafi77 4 years ago
I'm assuming you're not or ever were Mormon then right? Because if you were you would know that's not what the 'LDS Mormon church' is about. We don't believe in polygamy, and anyone you've heard that from that 'says' they're Mormon, are crazy. I think you're getting them confused with people like Warren Jeffs...
Oh, and for the record, yes, Brigham Young did have multiple wives, and was once practiced in the church, but this has since been taken away from Mormon doctrine. Thank you.
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PeyMaetay Polygamy is still parcticed in the Mormon church .Widowed Mormon men are sealing additional earthly wives in the Temple ready for ploygamy and its still Doctrinal , read D&C 132 .Its just temporary suspended to comply with law.
Joseph Smith had multiple wives too including maried women.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Well I'm IN the Mormon church and I think I would know what is in my own religion.
How is a widowed man getting remarried any different in our church than it is to the rest of the world?
Joseph didn't marry women who were already married. God tried him to see if he was willing to give up his whole life, all he loved for the chruch, for God. Please get your facts straight before you rag on something.
And isn't it odd how it's always Mormons people are bashing??.. not any other Christians..?
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PaeMae A mormon widowed man geting married again is different because he expects to call all his earthly wives into polygamy in the ressurrection. Joseph Smith married 11 married women .Its a FACT ! I'm sorry to break this to you .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
You're not breaking a thing to me. I've already proven you wrong on other 'facts' you have claimed; whos to say these aren't just more of your 'facts'? Even if it WAS written by and LDS writer, and someone who is of high 'ranking' in the church, that doesn't make it true. One has to be able to dicern for themself whether what they teach is true. It's like the Aprocrypha; Has a lot of good things hidden within, but some of it is totally bogus.
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PeyMaeTay Its very clearly shown that Joseph Smith was marrying other mens wives.
Its well documented in church members diaries and letters.This has been uncovered by Todd Compton(LDS writer)and confirmned by Richard Bushman in his book Rough Stone Rolling.
Do some research,its so easy to do.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
kay monogomism didnt let in prostitution, they've existed for a long time even when polygamy was accepted, nice try though at demonizing, but this is no differnt from the many religions before you and you acting no more ignorant than the sorry people who blindly followed it without thinking
killakadafi77 4 years ago
you guys just wanna get with more bitches just admit it, you guys are pimps arent you
killakadafi77 4 years ago
Polygamy isn't the problem, it's the fact that these ugly egomaniacs abuse women and children. If there is a god, it wouldn't require anyone to have to go through these characters for salvation. And the belief that plural marriages will qualify them to be a god of their own planet is completely insane.
I don't think much of the women who go along with this bunk and let their young daughters live in the same house with these creeps.
ANTISCAM 4 years ago
Nice hymn....pray about your concerns and try to go to the church to investigate there for just a month it will help u learn more....GOd bless
rainbow8887 4 years ago
Hi Rainbow , I've been going for two years .I've prayed about it and Brigham Young was a dangerous Cultist as I suspected .He was an arrogant Bigot and had no respect for women .They were to obey him without question.He 'called' teens to marry him while an old man and threatened damnation on them if they refused .Its disgusting .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
your all just a bunch of horny guys looking to stick your dick in as many women as possible
killakadafi77 4 years ago
did anyone notice that this DID say that LDS at one time did teach Jesus was married to three women. Yet there are many who are offended by the "divinci code" I am too, but it seems like in part that it might be LDS doctrine.
River2u 4 years ago
River2u There are many things which the LDS taught in the past and still believe behind because its caught up in their theology . They believe God is a polygamist , Jesus is a polygamist and that this is what women were made for , for man.The one thing which puzzles them in reality is monogomy .Their theology is against it.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Hi Elder are you LDS? Your right there are many believes that are not openly spoken.
River2u 4 years ago
It comes from shame because they are trying to hide how incorrect they are. To admit those doctrines are right would be to admit they were wrong, and perhaps the LDS Church was wrong. Been there, done that.
Steven5V5Hatting 4 years ago
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River2u 4 years ago
Wow, I've honestly never heard that one before. Never once have I heard God is a polygamist, nor Jesus, or is that what women are made for. They were made as a help-meet for man.
Honestly, where do you get this garbage? It's funny how you hear things 'Mormon's believe', when I've been Mormon all my life and have never once heard it.
The funniness of all you peoples' accusations..
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
It is sad how a modern society still has such uneducated, closed-minded citizens. If any of you took a moment to listen to the music of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, you will agree with me when I say, How can anything so beautiful come from an evil group of people? You should also know that members of the LDS church do NOT practice polygamy.
najoiv 4 years ago
najoiv Members of the LDS church practice multiple sealings in the temple in effect preparing polygamy for the afterlife .A mormon widower can seal his additional earthly wives and they do ! Polygamy lives on .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
I think there are many things about the afterlife that we are not yet prepared to understand, or develop opinions about. We are human, and could never comprehend all that God has in store for us.
najoiv 4 years ago
najoiv . There is NOTHING you know about or can comprehend about the next life .God has not got in store for Mormon men to be screwing multiple teenagers like Brigham Young did , simple as that.You should be ashamed of yourself .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I don know that mormons today do not practice polygamy. Brigham Young was a propbet of the church in the 1800'. That was a while ago, don't you agree? As far as what happens in the next life, I don't know, and certainly neither do you.
najoiv 4 years ago
najoiv Brigham Young 'called' girls into polygamy,It was a frightening repulsive situation for these girls as they were threatened with Damnation if they disobeyed.The church has no respect for these girls and instead just blot theor names out of the church books like it never happened .Same with Joseph Smith,they prefer to show him as a monogomist.The DVD's are whitewashed to eradicate polygamy which they believe in.Its deception.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
If there was still a problem that, I'd be married off already. Honestly, you're talking about religions that branched off of the LDS church. Psychos like Warren Jeffs. Have you met many Mormon's nowdays that are being put in court of doing any of this? Okay then... I think I've said enough. In short, no one cares if you hate us. Just be sure to tell the truth. Which from what I see, you're not doing a good job.
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PeyMae i don't hate you .I attended church myself.Warren Jeffs is actually doing exactly the same as Brigham Young ( Arranging marriages of young girls to old men)
JOD VOL 9 page 37 Brigham Young
How will you be happy? Love the Giver more than the gift. Delight yourselves in your duties, mothers. Here are the MIDDLE-AGED and the YOUNG. I am now almost daily sealing YOUNG GIRLS to MEN OF AGE and experience.
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
You do know that Brigham Young was commanded that correct? And =when the law was changed that polygamy was not to happen, it stopped. He said something to the effect of 'complying to the law' because we are to follow the laws of the land. Now obviously, don't quote me on that directly.
Brigham was called of God. Jeffs was not; there is a difference in what they were doing.
And they aren't marrying them and sealing them so that they can be polygamists. There are other reasons for that.
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
Pae Mae Warren Jeffs will claim that polygamy is an everlasting covenant and the William Woodruff apostasised the church for suspending it temporarily ..Brigham Young was not called of God .He taught that Adam is God the Father .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
The funny thing is, you keep saying things that they obviously don't teach anymore or never did, because yet again I've never heard it. If 'all Mormons' believed this, like you're pretty much claiming, then I think I'd have at least heard it. How am I to trust one such as you who I've already proven wrong?
PeyMaeTay 4 years ago
PeyMae The reason you haven't heard about it is because the church likes to brush under the carpet its true history.Its kept from church members like yourself.Have you seen my new Video Adam is God ?
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Another good video. It speaks well for itself. Sad how Adria20 gets offended by early Mormon leaders, then says you are going to hell. Those early Mormon leaders are obviously the ones boastfully missing Christ and heaven.
lgazzini 4 years ago
igazzini The typical blinded Mormon mindset is very scary ! they think everything their False prophets prophets did is from God and acceptable .But the good News is I've met Mormons now who know its all a Sham and a Con and its growing fast .The Church's days are numbered and a reformation or collapse is due ! Amen
W w W mormonthink com put in the dots
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Great site. the Greek Pslater was new to me.
lgazzini 4 years ago
So how does it feel ElderJoseph knowing that youre going to burn in hell?
Adria20 4 years ago
adria I don't know , because I'm not expecting to go there .I'm not the one lying and decieving people into joining a man made cult called Latter day saints where teen women were used for screwing older men calling themselves prophets and apostles . Its so simple really .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
dont lissen to this peeps. its all just a buntch ov LIES. we dont teech this stuff.
this is just mor proves that the church iz tru. other wize peeps wood dent b rippin on us lik this.
I no dat josef smith was a profit of gawd. i no that wyth evry fibber of my bee ing.
Just kidding. Great video. I've been trying to find the quote of Jesus being married to Martha, Mary, and Mary Magdalene for a awhile.
fubecabr 4 years ago
you are a complete hater, i don't know what mormons have done to you, but it seems like you're hurted...idk why though...i just a see an immature man trying to make the mormons look bad. i don't get it...what's the whole point of this videos?
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
artemiskunzite Grow up a little and keep away from here .You are too young to understand or know what you are talking about.One day you will understand .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
no...cause i am mormon, and this is just retarded...maybe i'm 17..and i'm immature..and that's bad..but is WORST seeing a 45 yeard old man like you, making this stupid nonesense video...really..did you have childhood? or? like..what?
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
artemis What is retarted about it ? its the truth about your church's history and obsession with Polygamy . ask your parents about it .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
i've already done that...and they watch this video..and they said it was complete out of context..they explaint me that in antiant history, it was ok to have more than one wife...but then they, realized that i was wrong or whatever...or it was against the law...NOWdays..it's bad-looked to have more than one wife, but you're just taking everything out of context and making the mormon church look bad. duh!
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
artemis ... 150 years ago is not ancient History . Polygamy was abuse of women . Brighma Young was a religious fanatic and bully . Women hated polygamy .They were threatened into it ... Wake UP you fool .Its a cult ! Joseph Smith was a filthy child abuser as well ! One day you will know that your parents are talking bullshit !
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Brighma Young was a fanati and bully in YOUR opinion..it's your though in your fucked up head....i think you're a fuckin pedophile who has lost it..really...go to a pshychitrist...
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
artemis Go and see your bishop and REPENT ( repent properly and not a fake one ), you are not Worthy ... you are displaying dangerous Brighmam Young qualities yourself...typical Mormon fanatic .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
mm nope..i don't go to church..i used to when i was a child, but it's clear that you have issues and you are really sick...man i feel sorry for u
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
artemis .. Why don't you go to church , why defend something you want nothing to do with ? I don't have issues .I'm just showing people the real history and teaching of these so called Mormon Leaders .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
in your personal opinion
artemiskunzite 4 years ago
polygamy is fine - as long as it is consenting adults. that said, while joseph smith was clearly a genius, i cannot understand why anyone would believe that nonsense (or any religion for that matter)
therealgeeza 4 years ago
therealgeeza , I agree with you, and all things should be fine between consenting adults.However Mormon Polygamy was not really consenting on the womans part , they were doing it because they believed they had to and their eternal destiny was at stake and that is wrong.Mormon men used their false religious power and authority to co-erse and scare unsuspecting women into it, all based on a false belief. A real tragedy .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Well if you actually finish reading the whole part you will see what he is talking about, as in God asking Abraham to kill his son. You have to read everything not just pick out tidbits and say this is the meaning.
HeliPilotAllred 4 years ago
helipilotallred... which part do you mean , I'll take a look , I have Journal Of Discourses online .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
What on earth were these men ?( Idiots) thinking of at the time . Its absolutely ridiculous what they created out of Joseph Smith's Con and the events which tragically followed .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago
Whos the idiot here? Look at yourself in the mirror. Stop criticizing people for what they believe in. Grow up.
heatherweeks3277 4 years ago
heatherweeks Do you believe monogomy is evil ? I think we have a right to know exactly what you believe.
I'm so happy to share this with the world .
ElderJoseph 4 years ago