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  • I can't find any wood thicker than 3/4" in my area. Was it difficult to find the 30mm pine?

  • In the other side of the room you could have such things as a mitre saw, pilar drill, wood wooking bench or even a pick n place machine.

  • @simontay1984 If someone wants to donate a pick'n'place machine, I'm all for it!

  • where do you put the weed?

  • where is your three phase power supply? lol

  • Hey Dave, Love the Tandy calculator! I have the Casio equivalent (fx-115). The novelty of mine is that the upper right button is an On button. But, it is solar and comes on when light hits it. Why is there an On button? Who knows? See photo: bgp,nu/~tom/pub/fx115,jpg (replaced periods with commas to be able to post link).

    tom

  • @bgpnu Looks like the same type I had at school, thirty years ago. Until somebody pinched it! :'(

  • I think you will need some cross beams under the pine tables. Otherwise they will get curved with time.

  • You sure are hard on those expensive ESD mats.

    Might think about turning that dirtied section to the back of the bench so you have fresh mat to work on to start out in the new shop. Do the conductive properties change when it gets soiled?

  • @secondgear26 If I turn around it has a ratty edge on the other side. Should fix that though.

  • wow sound check in the elevator :-D

  • i would recommend cross bracing on your benches, coming from a chippy :)

  • For that large wall I liked your idea for the projector but have you considered using a green/blue screen? I'm sure you can think of something creative for that!

  • @vogtrob Maybe. But no time to edit tricky videos using chromakey I'm afraid.

  • You should use 5500K KinoFlo fluorescent tubes for the lighting & swap out those coolwhite bulbs. They don't require any sort of structural change and will draw similar power to those other lights as opposed to installing new LEDs, plus they are daylight balanced so its easier to process on your camera's photo it is the same color temperature as the sun[which I know actually changes constantly] so its actually healthier for the indoor plants.

  • I'd recommend some diagonal bracing. Even washing-line with some turn-buckles to tighten them up would work well and be unobtrusive.

  • Could you put the name of the IKEA shelving your purchased into the description? Thank you. :)

  • @envisionelec Ok, I found (and purchased) the IKEA shelves today. They're called BRODER in case anyone missed them.

  • You could take all those phone lines and convert the EEVblog forums into an old-school BBS. That would take care of all the forum spam too!

    On an unrelated note, Australians should be banned from complaining about the weather.

  • You need lots of space to put different projects, finished or not. I can smell the wood over the internet its so fresh!

  • Looks 10 times bigger when the lights are turned on! Congrats on the new office!

  • Where's the kettle? D:

  • I wound love to obtain a space like this one day.

  • Ack, New year's eve must be awesome down there with it being warm and what not. Perfect celebration temperatures. We yanks get the wonderful near freezing rain (if we're not getting ice and snow)

  • Great lab, cant wait for a quad copter build. I have been building one from DIY Drones and it works great. they use an Arduino micro and there code is accessible.

    keep up the good work.

  • Do you implement any filtering or power conditioning or anything of the sort for your AC-powered test equipment?

  • microwave and refrigerator !!!!!

    and a LED tv !

  • Awesome lab Dave! Use it well, and thanks for sharing all the details! I'm totally ripping off your bench design :)

  • How safe is the lab against break-ins? It's not what you want to think about, but consider the possibility that someone will figure out where lab is located and try to break in and steal your gear...

  • excellent lab my friend!

    

  • hi david, could put the IKEA code of the shelves?

    Thanks

  • Still sad that what was once part of your daily life now requires a commute.

  • You need a couch in there!

  • Hey Dave, quick question: what about toilets? Is this like a mall with shared toilet every floor? =)

  • This is not a lab. I believe the word you are looking for is "heaven."

  • Following along with your projects is truly empowering for the beginner Dave. Thank you for all your wonderful contributions! Your videos are like a private off-the-cuff tutorial... not unlike if you had an engineer come over and "hang out", "show you how to do it". Never boring, or "canned" , "institutionalized" , if that makes sense. Very inspiring. I wish you Merry Christmas. Do you have anything for sale somewhere? Would like to support your efforts. Kyle

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  • Dave, first of all, great videos, keep up the good work. About your shelves, you mentioned they are not fixed to the wall and are free standing. Do they have any cross (diagonal) bracing? If not, then I suggest you put some cross bracing (diagonal bracing) to ensure that they would not sway and risk collapse due to the weight of the equipment and all other loads on the shelves.

    Hope this helps.

  • Good job Dave ! Can't wait to see the next steps !

  • how exciting! Best of luck getting everything setup!

  • Regarding the wooden shelves, get some aluminium U extrusions, inner being the same as the wood thickness. Place on front and rear of the wooden panels, and you will find them to be a lot stiffer, plus the front will match the metal shelves. Get a dry powder extinguisher ( with current service & pressure test) and place it just inside the door. Soldering may be a problem if the smoke detectors are sensitive, check if the kitchen has an extractor so you can duct to it to extract fumes to outdoors

  • There should be a Dave Jones Arcade game. Based on Back to the Future, Leonardo Da Vinci DaveCAD drawings, SmackDown WWF Teardowns with giant robots boxing, and other cool stuff.

  • You could add a couch for guests in one of the corners.

  • I think I see an RFID reader on the elevator at the beginning of the video. Either there's a secret sub basement where Dave Jones is really Australian Batman (with a soldering iron), or.. a penthouse, where he builds a robot suit which flies. I'm not sure which.

  • Great lab space. I would add some braces to the wooden shelves over the benches to keep them from sagging over time.

  • Cant wait to see the finished lab and the quad copter build. Been experimenting with an accelerometer and gyro my self. I assume that's how you stabilize the copter. I'm building a 2 wheeled balancing robot. Trying to anyway.

  • wow can I come work in the lab?

  • that's a good sized lab... you could work on all sorts of projects in there

  • won't having the sockets upside down be a good idea since all the switches going into it won't have to be rotated by 180 degrees than.

  • Sounds like you just need some more stuff to diffuse/absorb the slapback echo from the parallel walls (clap your hands and listen to the room ring). Otherwise, it sounded pretty good.

  • Need to get your self an Audio Precision

  • I could live there no problem.

  • This is heaven OMG. (ENVVVVVVYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY)

  • Put a TV and a coach or bed you'll be spending nights there =)

    funny accent btw

  • Put a LCD TV in there or LED TV .

  • Verry nice :)

     Happy hollydays Dave!

  • you should move in there

  • I think you could put a nice "sofa" in the corner so that sometime you could explain things confortably...an maybe a small refrigerator for cold drinks...anyway I`m sure that you will have many very good ideas from all the peoples watching your videos...keep it up good...always a plesure to watch your videos...(from a guy up there in far north in the French zone of america)...

  • Looking forward to the Agilent LCR review. Great looking space by the way Dave. Looks awesome.

  • EEVblog 2.0

  • Take the elevator instead of the lift.

  • Love your new place! *envious*

    I reckon those roof tiles will probably attenuate very well down to about 3-4kHz - in both directions too, since there will be attenuation on the way into the cavity then back out again. The acoustics actually don't sound too bad for an open office space. I bet the roof tiles help a lot since they help attenuate a lot of the tangential and oblique modes.

  • You do contracting work, right? Why not get a table and some nice chairs to talk to clients around :-)

  • you could add more plants too

  • @gglovato Yep, rainforest is the plan...

  • foosball table

  • @daafies2 That's not a done thing in Australia

  • @EEVblog  HA!

  • You need a large open space for flying.

  • where's your Rigol! : )

    you forgot to say Happy Christmas! : )

  • Not sure if someone else mentioned it but how about cree leds under the shelves for additional lighting? They won't be in your face and you can read easier. Try 'natural light' coloured/temp ones.

    Or may that be too expensive?

  • @c436237 The light on the bench for just working on stuff isn't a major issue, it's more to do with getting even diffused natural light for various video angles.

  • @EEVBlog: can you type the name of the IKEA shelving system, please? It's hard to get a Swedish name on an Aussie accent. ;-)

  • @ivaneduardo747 Broder

  • @EEVblog The local IKEA seems to stock it (yay!). It's a bit more expensive that what I was expecting. The wooden shelves support up to 30kg whereas the metal ones support 40kg. I think both are enough even for heavy 70's equipment from eBay. The price difference is negligible: it's a dollar.

  • @ivaneduardo747 Yeah, it's not the cheapest solution, but it works well. The metal shelves cost 50% more here.

  • Power analyzer would be useful as well as space filling, you could analyze what's going on with standby power for various items, things like the powerfactor, waveform and so forth

  • Those tiles are I believe fibre, if they're the same as the ones in the UK, almost like woodpulp or similar. Very good acoustically

  • I have exactly the same calculator, but in my case was sold under the Casio brand - Casio FX 82B from 1986 in my case ;-))) the same calculator - without shitty V.P.A.M. "feature" is Casio fx 220, but i use modern Chinese copy kk-220 now, which is even one hidden decimal place more precise than original FX220 or fx82

  • I don't see any sprinklers overhead. Is there any fire detection above the ceiling? Maybe smoke detection in the A/C ducts somewhere?

    You can buy a Sensaphone that will listen for the sound of a smoke detector and handle 4 input switches (door, etc.) and make calls to 4 numbers (your cell?) until someone answers. No monthly charges.

  • @CampKohler Their are two (presumably) smoke detectors, should be able to spot then on the ceiling in the video. One in the office, one in the main area.

    There are no sprinklers, unless they are in the ceiling space.

  • you need a nice sofa (comfy three seater) so you can relax lie down, also a comfy place to browse the web and upload ect.

  • how did you wire up your mains to get 60 sockets? could you run 60 kettles of them? lol : )

  • @rainbowsalads I simply ran a 6 way point board from each existing outlet. Same phase, 16A total.

  • Nice Job. Keep the good work. And I recommend some cushions. Sometimes you have to relax in order to put your ideas "on the track". Don´t know, maybe a "no stress" corner.

  • take the lift apart and put it back together. lol

  • No, the resistance of the pad won't "go out" as you spread the probes apart. As the probes spread apart, the increased parallel paths keep R constant. For that reason, surface R is measured by the square, i.e. ohms per area, no matter what area you choose.

    Don't forget the burglar alarm! A local-only noise maker would be better than nothing if you don't want to pay for monitoring. Unless you have good insurance, a big hit would be devastating.

  • @CampKohler It's a secure swipe access building after hours, with security guards roaming. And who wants old 2nd hand test gear anyway? The only really expensive thing in the lab is the Agilent scope.

    People keep talking about security, but this place is much more secure than my existing lab, and this is an area where crime rarely happens in secure office buildings like this one.

  • @Nibiru128 Yeah, I have no idea how much the aircon takes. Current lights would cost about 8 cents / hour.

  • Dave instead of cree led you can use Nichia NS6W183AT led. Very efficient and no so expensive. 128 lumen for 1 watt. i done several lamp with that simly amazing. 2160 lumen with 16 led each led use 1,05w.

  • Please please please do make a video about the arcade machine, that's so awesome that you've got one, so when you not doing electronics work or recording videos you can kick back and blast a few hundred aliens away, that's brilliant.

  • Those ceiling tiles typically have a drywall consistency.

  • lol when he said summer i got serprized but then i forgot he lives in the south

  • Brilliant! Look forward to a new year full of vids!

  • I'm sorry buddy, your going to have to wash the benches of your lab, because I've just drooled all over them!! Niiiiiiiiiiice :o) An arcade machine!!! Your the coolest nerd I know!!! :o) Acoustics sound fine in there :o)

  • is the microphone wobbling around or something? it makes an annoying squeaky sound.

  • @thewii552 I think he's just using the camera's microphone, you're hearing handling noise, yes the noise is a bit annoying, but it's not his usual setup.

  • @thewii552 Yeah, that's the rubber shock mounts on the Rode VideoMic squeaking - rather annoying...

  • Thanks for sharing the update. Do you realize you said the word "actually" about 70 times during this video? LOL Happy holidays!

  • Is it just me, or is that huge wall crying out for a large whiteboard?

  • Hi Dave. Two more aspects. You may want to contact your local Fire Department to find out if the Building has periodic Fire Alarm Testing and Fire Sprinkler Testing, if the building is sprinkled. Lastly, insurance. Your may want to consider Fire and Theft insurance for the contents of your space. (and no, I don't work for the Fire, Security, or Insurance business) Peace, John

  • Hi Dave. Two aspects to you new lab that I would like to point out. 1) Fire Safety. And 2) Security. Regarding Fire Safety, I would find the location of the nearest Fire Extinguisher, probably in the hall somewhere. If none is available, consider getting one for your new lab. And, whether you use "the building" extinguisher or your own, make sure that it will be useful against the types of lab fires that are possible. Security: Consider installing a Security System to help protect against theft.

  • @johnmartin512 If Aus. is anything like U.S., they have to provide extinguishers in several places on each floor. But I would have my own handy. You can find drained/leaked units cheap and pay a fire equipment place to recharge them. (Always get units with metal heads, not plastic, so there is a no-leakdown guarantee.)

  • I was watching a movie but when i saw there is a new EEVblog episode out there i left the movie. Your episodes are far better than Hollywood movies.

  • @SajjadBro Did you actually pay for that movie? I hope you ate the popcorn, at least.

  • @ivaneduardo747 What do u think? yep i eat popcorn with every movie else its impossible for me to watch complete movie with my bare hands ;)

  • Is there an issue with soldering in an enclosed communal office? It's something I'm concerned about as I'm looking for a new office. Does your landlord care?

  • @adventcontrols Yes, it's an issue, I have to find a better filtering system solution.

  • seamons? what is that? unit for conductivity?

  • @86Ivar Hi. It's Siemens. Siemens is the unit of electrical conductivity.

  • @souzzzzza Also called the Mho. (It is Ohm backwards)

  • @86Ivar Siemens aka. Mho, 1/R. Better not to write here what I thought him saying. Maybe that material is also conductive :P.

  • I want to be there.

  • Put a CNC machine in there!

  • @xng14 I think the neighbours might not like it ;)

  • That's a great lab Dave. Makes me excited to move into a new apartment in the new year and build a new home lab!

  • Living the dream! Great workspace.

  • Those roof panels actually are acoustic panels - this is the standard way of doing classrooms over here in germany. They're absorbing pretty well.

  • The lab's looking good. You're going to need a PC to program MCUs, FPGAs, CPLDs and such.

  • Dave, about LED lighting is not that expensive the CREE XM-L is a great LED about 10W 1000lumen and cost about 9$ including shipping so 0.9$/W But for room illumination I recommend the multi die LED's you can find them from 10W (actually 9W) they have a 3x3 die matrix up to 100W. I have the 50W and 10W in a recent video compared with other light sources and they are really good watch?v=lHyNSzlbOpI from minute 6 is the comparison.

    Also they cost 0.5$/W so about 25$ for the 50W including shipping.

  • On the wall where the camera will be hang a set of thick white curtains, that will help with the sound. The LED retrofits are really expensive, nice looking but $100 each tube expensive, and a lower light level. Try getting a lot of 1W dies and mounting them on a thick alloy panel heatsink, drive them with a CC source and place a white diffuser over them as a light panel.

  • @SeanBZA Yes, commercial replacements are far too expensive. But a custom solution will be a lot of work to build. So either way, it's not easy.

  • @EEVblog Nice to get some Wan Long ( that is the name of the one retailer of FE kwality gloods here) H3 lamps and wire them in a panel behind a diffuser, with a cheap 12V PSU to drive them. Cheaper than a light panel, and a reasonable light output. I tore one apart to make a cheap light panel for close up photography, will finish it sometime this holiday.

  • NOW he has room! But now this room will have to earn it's keep...

    You probably should keep a small bench at home too though, you'll miss it for quick fixes and tiny projects.

  • Looks really good Dave. Get comfy!

  • Most ceiling tiles of that type are acoustic and fire rated. I have them in my basement.

  • Dave, those "roof panel" are actually made of fiberglass between too "for show" sheet.

    there are quite good at sound absorbing.

  • You really need a comfy couch with a table and some nice spotlights for the plants. And ofcourse, you need a coffee making device as well as cold beers for the hot summers. ;-) Like the arcade game. Also, you need a nice jukebox! :D Anyway, it looks great! My self I am moving my computer room/lab to a closeth like room since the daughter is old enough for her own room now. To bad for me. Maybe I'll post a video of my ulta tiny "lab" when done.

  • You need an espresso machine and grinder for when you have guests coming, to make delicious latte or espresso. And make the lighting more dynamic where you are doing most of the recording! :) But I got to say, the bench was second to pornographic. Great stuff!M

  • You are a hero Dave! I thought this might be dull but it was V interesting AND useful.

  • Maybe use the other wall for component storage and maybe some type of automation machine? Some type of separate lab for etching or a pick and place machine? There's just so many things you can do, looks amazing though!

  • You might want a small couch and coffee table for visitors.

  • Actually I like the wood shelves better than the metal ones. Wood won't rattle when you put something on it or won't vibrate as easily (e. g. because of fans in equipment).

  • @superdau

    And.... I'm no carpenter (built some nice things already though ;) ), but I think you should add some horizontal support across the width to the bottom of the bench board. The way it is built now I fear the board will warp or sag. Don't make it a too rigid connection though, since wood works 10x more in direction of the width than the length of the grain. Metal angle profiles with elongated holes (so the screws can move in them) should do the job.

  • As an RC addict I'm looking forward to your quadrocopter build!

  • ceiling tiles are made from a thick paper-like material

  • Oh my god...! :|

    I love it. Very nice bench. I'm really jealous right now. :)

  • Wow, amazing lab! I wouldn't mind having a hobby room/workshop like that! :)

  • Why not put benches in the empty corner? Looks like long way to slide from one end to another

  • I reckon in the centre you should have big rack shelving so you can store all sorts of parts, a bit like how M5 has a huge wall of boxes and components.

  • The BRODER system looks pretty good, might pick one up.

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  • BENCH! WANT!

  • Im still wondering about the glass windows, since the first vid. Why are those there? Asuming its a shared office building, arent you afraid someone looks inside and desides to have a good at the equipment?

  • @Intosia Most people have no idea what this kind of gear is.

  • @EEVblog You have said that before, but it is not the 99 who don't know what the gear is that is the problem. It is the 1 who thinks he might be able to get a few bucks for it to get his next fix that you have to look out for.

  • Great stuff! I think a huge pick and place machine would be a nice centre piece for the lab ;)

  • @HammerFET Sure, someone wanna donate one? I'll happily take it!

  • Are you allowed to solder in there?

  • man im jelly!

  • Pool table.

  • Will be very interested in watching the quadcopter build :)

  • How do you earn income to pay for the office space ?

  • @bcsupport Mostly the advertising on my blog and website.

  • @EEVblog Plus generous people who donate!

  • @EEVblog Thanks for reminding me! I just donated $25. Have a great new year!

  • With all them phone lines you have plenty of redundancy, also you might want to parrel there use to give you a faster internet connection.

    Good to see an arcade machine, you love games to then.

  • @TheEPROM9 Paralleling phone lines won't work. When only analog leased lines were avail. and running at 9.6K max, you could buy a "reverse multiplexer" to glue them together at both ends for a blinding 18K. Those are now antiques, and they wouldn't work for dial-up. For DSL/cable, you just order the bandwidth you need.

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  • Congrats on the new lab

    That's a pretty good size office too.

  • hey those lifts look just like our elevators

  • You've been busy! Thanks for the new lab tour. I reckon another Cree LED setup would be the way to go for your permanent lighting. That would be a good info video. Since the last LED build you did they have come out with the XM-L which is even more efficacious than the XP-G!

  • @samgab Yeah, but mega expensive to either replace the 36W tubes, or install whole new light recesses though :-(

  • @EEVblog It depends on what your electricity costs are, how much time you're willing to spend on construction/design and how long you'll be operating the lights. If you do it all by yourself, you can get a return after less than 3000 hours. One very, very important rule though is: design it well! If you ruin your efficacy by bad thermal design, or your efficiency through bad electrical design, it quickly becomes hard to beat T5 fluorescent lighting. I'll blog about this soon.

  • You could put some nice comfortchairs and a table on the right. Makes it comfortable to receive guests, customers, etc.

  • Awesome!

  • Dave,do you get to keep all the gear you review?

  • @tommy9411 Most, but not all. Some of them I bought myself.

  • Nice :)

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  • Looks good!

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