NINDOKAI Kusari Fundo 2007

[zaxarion]

Tu take the Kusari Fundo and shove it up anyones ass, the agressor must first see it coming and secondly take it. I haven't even watched the video, but I know about japanese and Ninja weapons. Everything in the world can be an efective weapon in the right hands. And specially sir, combat experience in warfields is very different from street self defense situations: We don't have machine guns or anything like this. If your opinion is not constructive, you should go to a Dojo and try to learn.

[hathegkla]

omg, the slow motion water mellon lol, awesome.

[Phuild]

That was pretty neat. Those weighted ends could crack a skull

[wallrunn3r]

A man with a weapon, any weapon, is twice the man without one.

[leicamaster]

I disagree. I'd take on a guy with a knife with a Kusari Fundo. A gun is another matter. Learn how to use one and then make an educated comment Kenjutsumasters.

[mastersonpi]

This is a highly effective self defense tool - distracting, trapping and striking tools are highly effective - and yes against knives and guns (if you know what you are doing (and put you in a body bag if you don't) - there is a reason for the law enforcement "21 foot rule" - meaning a law enforcement can shoot in a situation where the suspect has a knife within 21 feet of an officer (that is the distance a person can clear a room and get to you to stab you before you can draw a gun.

[Zurkive]

Sound effects like these could make me taking a shit seem like an action movie

[Hekigyoku1]

hmmmm, these counts are interesting, its funny how ppl don't think old weapons can match a person with a gun, not long ago, I've had a paint ball gun up to my back, and I had a Kusari handy on me and with my years of training I simply turned around, whiped off my kusari from my modern pants and I took down my Uke. We performed this because just two weeks ago there was an argument if old weapons can be used in modern society, you can succede if only yu develope skill and technique, yu guys train!

[myrtleville1]

Waste of a good coconut.

[Kenjutsumasters]

but I will give you one final thing and then Im done with this ,yes it has a fast draw speed (you are 100% correct) what I found out in my "experience" is it just does not have the impact weight and power against someone it was certainly good for trapping good for its "surprise element" just couldnt take the big fucker down that I was restling with at the bar years ago and it cost me .........but thats just my opinion & personal experience maybe other people have had better success cheers!

[Kenjutsumasters]

but WTF? do I know

[Moviebro]

@Kenjutsumasters You clearly don't know much because you have an agenda like Glenn Beck. So why the fuck would anyone care what you have to say?

[Kenjutsumasters]

@Moviebro what the hell did anything that I said have to do with Glenn Beck or an agenda??? what are you some sort of a retard?

[MrShamelessone]

@Moviebro off topic lol

[Moviebro]

@MrShamelessone A little. I need to get me a Kusari Fundo to make my taijutsu even better. People that whine about "reality" and "what if's" annoy me. Especially when dealing with traditional martial arts and a weapon usually practiced against an unarmed opponent or a knife. It's a chain with weights. If someone randomly picked up this weapon on the streets, they would knock themselves out.

[MrShamelessone]

@Moviebro None of my business but I think this guy makes a point there too many people out there that think they can use these ancient weapons in a modern situation not sticking up for the dude but the argument makes cense to me especially for guys with combat or special forces training, these guys have been there and seen it...I dont think anyone ever said "What if"......Listen im no expert but on the street who knows what you would encounter I cant see a chain doing much good....Expert or not

[Moviebro]

@MrShamelessone The weighted ends can break the opponents hands and the chain can be used for grappling and choking. Also can be used swinging as is shown here breaking bones. Against fists/ knives/ street fight it would definitely do damage. He does make some valid points and some really silly ones. Military folks have been there and seen it but that by no means makes them an expert on Traditional weaponry.

[MrShamelessone]

@Moviebro I could see it being useful in a situation where you come up behind someone chocking them maybe but seriously real fights happen so fast and Ive read stuff from guys like Marc MacYoung and Al Polson that say this kind of defense is total B.S these are some of the top self defense people in the US the same ones that train our Marines and special forces, look a guys comming at you fast and hard your just not going to have time to get out a chain out especially against a knife....

[Kenjutsumasters]

@MrShamelessone You are correct choking is a situation where this becomes a useful weapon also traping your oponents, I never said this was a completely useless weapon just not practical for modern stile applications, this is if the fight goes totally according to plan and what if it dosent ? what if theres two or three opponents ? the people that have the experience say its BS because it is ,your totally right here glad you mention MacYoung he has a web site dedicated to debunking the miths

[MrShamelessone]

@Kenjutsumasters No I agree with you I know some people hate the "What If's" but its the what ifs that kill you, people willing to bet there life on a weighted chain better start writting out there last will and testament lol theory is fine but nothing makes up for experience.

[Kenjutsumasters]

@MrShamelessone surrounding modern fighting

[Kenjutsumasters]

@MrShamelessone who is Al Polson unless you ment Al Tafoya

[MrShamelessone]

@Kenjutsumasters Not sure I know I read some stuff years ago about the reality of knife fights might have been another name Tafoya sounds familliar lol

[MrShamelessone]

@Moviebro and if you did manage to get your weapon out sure your going to do some damage but your still going to end up stabbed when he closes the gap, and forget the knife for a minute what about going up against a gun unless your oponents a complete idiot and runs or panics when your swinging the chain, Ive watched enouph videos about robberies to know that shit never goes down as people plan it....I guess when you pull your chain hope and pray the guy panics otherwise youre in trouble....

[Pairofsai]

To the person who asked, yep they illegal in the UK.

To the people who do not think they work, ever been flicked by a towel? You need to know what you are doing but they work. In Ancient Japan, the spiked ball on a chain was consider the most dangerous weapon in skilled hands.

[Kenjutsumasters]

I dont think you read what I said in my comment properly no one was talking about street fighters??? just real life experience

[lievdrago]

Nin do kai is obviously run by an ex- bujinkan guy!!!!!

[Bujincoren]

Any weapon has use in modern combat. One of the great things about a Kusari Fundo is its ability to be concealed. If someone is close enough with a gun you can disarm them. If they are a little distance you can use it by throwing it, even if just as a distraction to get in closer or just to get out of there. And yes, you can use it against a knife! Keep in mind u can use anything that resembles it; rope, belt, chain, etc. Even a shirt can be used to tie someone up and take them down.

[Kenjutsumasters]

Im sorry but lets face reallity if you pull out this chain and weights (Kusari-fundo) in a real fight against someone with a gun or a knife then the bad guy is going to take it from you and shove it straight up your ass, but what the hell do I know I only spent 2 years with my airborne regiment in east africa (Somalia) anyone with combat experience would agree with me ,in my opinion this is not an affective hand to hand weapon for the reality of a modern street fight or self defence situation!

[schwede06]

You are absolutely right! Traditional weapons of ancient Japan or Okinawa have nothing to do with modern combat. Therefore we did NOT call it "Reality [...]" - but just: Kusari Fundo. We love and enjoy also traditional training, because students learn a lot about distance andy body movement. We all know, that in real fighting there is no way of performing or controlling, nothing goes the right way and the result is always blood, pain and psychological traumata. Stay safe! 

[Kenjutsumasters]

@schwede06 Yes exactly my friend , but dont get me wrong it does look like a whole lot of fun and great physical fitness training as well as you say distance and body movement, Im just always concerned about young people who get this idea of armed combat in there minds its always very unrealistic...take care

[SYLVINO2002]

@schwede06 Hear hear! Rightfully spoken.

[NorthernVictory]

@Kenjutsumasters

I dunno, I would think someone skilled (who spars with say, weighted ropes constantly) with the kusari-fundo and can apply it with accuracy has an advantage over someone armed with a knife because of the distance difference.

If the knife fighter is attacking the guy with the chain could step back and try to shatter a bone before the distance is even finished being closed.

Just a theoretical situation. I don't train with weapons, but I know Dog Brothers who say stick > knife

[NorthernVictory]

@Kenjutsumasters NOT the trapping, tying, pulling aspects... that is not the most realistic of fighting scenarios. I am only talking about brutal, long distance strikes with the end weights onto any part of the human body... will cause massive pain and damage.

[Emaniac69]

@Kenjutsumasters you know that what you say is straight bullshit. It doesn't matter how much of an expert you are with guns or knives, the kusari fundo has a faster draw speed than both. By the time the guy draws the knife or gun, the kusari fundo is around the neck. These weapons, no matter how "ancient" they are, were developed for battlefield use and they are very effective at killing. And in a street fight? Please!! Street fighters are a fucking joke. No training, no discipline, no strategy

[Kenjutsumasters]

@Emaniac69 What exact experience do you have' what battles have been in or REAL street confrentations have you been in or Military experience HMMMM!

[Emaniac69]

@Kenjutsumasters Why does everybody on Youtube all of a sudden think that they are experts? Ok so you have had military experience and training. Have you ever been attacked by a kusari fundo? Do you own one? Are you a military instructor with 20+ years of experience? NO! So then why do you want to pull the military card on me? Understand that these weapons are battle tested and in ancient times required a person with to train for YEARS in order to be effective. And that is why they're deadly.

[Kenjutsumasters]

@Emaniac69 Hows 25 years of Kenjutsu, Iaido and advanced S.C.A.R.S training,2 toors of duty In East africa and the middle east and a crap load of fights when i was a kid and yes I have used one before even carried one around with me when I was a young guy untill they were outlawed in canada and put on the restricted weapons list and there useless in actuall MODERN combat "IN MY OPINON & EXPERIENCE" but I wont argue further if your "Experience" has been different then great who am I to argue LOL

[Kenjutsumasters]

@Emaniac69 So I wont pull the Military card then how about the martial arts and ive actually used one in a real life fight card LOL

[Emaniac69]

@Kenjutsumasters If you have 25 years of experience in Iai-do and kenjustsu, now your argument makes even less sense because you out of all people should know about draw speed.

[Kenjutsumasters]

@Emaniac69 thought I said I was done with this convo you dont agree with me and I dont agree with you and frankly im bored with it and have moved on lol

good luck in your future martial arts persuits!!! cheers........

[aporlarepublica]

@Kenjutsumasters

I agree you in part. It is not possible to catch the enemy arm if he has a knife, a gun or any weapon, but it is a great concealed weapon, and it is useful to hit the enemy with the weight in the end and to make him stay at a distance. Anf even after some hits and if the enemy is stunned, then maybe those techniques could be possible to do in some way.

[aporlarepublica]

@Kenjutsumasters

And of course it can be useful as a concealed weapon in some situation, and to make the first hit.

[LilKISSman]

@Kenjutsumasters Yes.. but not every one is going to come at you with a gun.. Its useful against melee weapons (blades, bats etc) but ofcourse its pretty useless against a gun. As are most melee weapons.

[Keaos0]

That weapon is even more frightening than I originally assumed it to be...

[Charliedonuts]

I dunno about a chain not being good for a weapon, I remember people in the eighties using bike chains as a weapon because they fit in your pocket or you could wear it inside your belt.. I'd imagine a dude who knew how to use one of these would find something like a bike chain pretty handy.

[theWZZA]

Excellent! I love it!

[smirkdancer]

If a manrikigusari can break a coconut it can break a human skull-- usually I just see people hit fruit. I dont understand how people can say things like "a chain is not a good weapon."(akban)

Oh and I want that camera and rig.

[nintengu]

Why is there so many haters on these ninja videos when there so many other things to hate out in the real world .

[lninjabigd]

Are these illegal in the Uk

[retaliationtrigger]

a chain with weights on both ends? why the hell would that be illigal???

[viper259]

3:33 - Brutal

[7ygrr]

i can see how this could be useful against a knife attack or even a pipe or bat or sumthing of that sort.i will buy one. lol. NEVER FIGHT A KNIFE FIGHT WITH A KNIFE. easier to fight a guy with a knife with your fists or possibly this.

[ShishKabbal]

@7ygrr

With your fists??? are you crazy??? sorry bro. but I really hope you're kidding about that!!! check out filipino or indonesian, kali or silat respectively to understand what I mean...

[7ygrr]

send me a link to w/e you mean and ill check it out..i see alot that many people do not use the knife as they should..so it is easier to fight bare handed ..but i will be happy to see your side of things.

[enopress]

Um well yeah if you're seriously at danger of dying, but there are relatively few real fight situations where this is going to be an issue. For example if a drunk start swinging punches at you because he's had too much fracturing his skull or for that matter any bone seems a little excessive if he can be easily submitted with either pain, a KO or being choked out. Like I said the striking seems to be the only real advantage over unarmed here so is only really useful if you're in fear of death.

[enopress]

Many of the locking techniques here have unarmed equivalents throughout the whole martial arts canon. What's more the unarmed nature of these techniques would give greater sensitivity and a quicker response-to-action time that wrapping up an extended arm with a chain would not allow.

That said the demonstration against a coconut shows that it'd has better effect as a striking weapon and I imagine the pain induced on bone by the wrist wraps would be a good deterent.

[enopress]

sorry about the typos

[youguysallset]

excellent post. i agree with you. useless trying to catch a quick jab.

[aporlarepublica]

Yes. If you can make the enemy´s head explode with a chain hit, why disarm him? At least, in death risk combat.

[katyrick09]

Yes, agre with the strking aspect, if your quick to grapple and ensnare, all good but striking is more effective. With a sitiation I was involved with when i was a store det couple yrs ago, was threatened with a syringe from a druggie shoplifter, my first response was take fight or flight, using ninpo, the only safer and practical choice was remove my belt and figure 8 flail which luckily struck his hand smashing the syringe...scary experience but very real so this tool has its purposes..

[Creationsofmyown]

"using ninpo" ????

how could you? you dont know any,,,,

nobody else does either, the last practitioner of ninjutsu was Seiko Fujita  he died over 40 years ago.

[katyrick09]

Using ningu was meant to say - ninpo taijutsu in its essence and thinking outside the box during the situation, now reccommend that in my security lectures in last resort situation, when you get creditation from your 15th Dan piers, then I guess it means your on the right 'path', not that Id want to be in that situation again however...

[Creationsofmyown]

ningu? uh check ur spelling

ninpo taijutsu? you mean that hatsumi shit?

ah you would have to be... everyone who knows a thing about koryu knows that ninjutsu uses the menkyo system not kyu/dan( which was only used for martial arts AFTER the meiji cutoff for koryu)

so yes... you have the recognition of other people who payed thousands of dollars for a martial art, so what?

takamatsu made up his ninjutsu ryu from other arts he knew.

ninjutsu isnt even a martial art....

[azvideoguy]

enopress, I know a lot of people say, that what you practice in the dojo, you will do on the street. Nonsense! I would NEVER use the same level of force in the dojo that I HAVE used on the street. Most of these techniques are solid on the street. They are LEARNING, so it is not full speed. The Sensei knows his stuff, I have used a few of these techniques in real life situations over the past 25 years. And yes, the strikes for this weapon are devestating. I would like to see more off-balancing.

[hardluckking13]

he sure can kill the shit out of fruit

[kricotoy]

hi i do like the technique but can u do more with the chain weapon? slow

thanks!

from mexico

[aporlarepublica]

Hola, yo también uso el kusari-fundo, he estado practicando y practicando y he creado técnicas nuevas, si quieres contáctame y seguimos hablando...

Saludos desde España.

[kricotoy]

hola as hecho algun video?

practicas ninjutsu?

[aporlarepublica]

Perdona por la tardanza en reponder. Ahora no tengo mucho tiempo, te respondo más tarde hoy, por la tarde (hora española (hora de Mexico + 6 horas). Pues eso, lo dicho, ahora tengo que salir corriendo...

[theraven391]

Wow...this guy really hates fruit.

[squal9999]

a 13 years old teen can do it better...

[Gunyo]

Where did you learn Masaki-ryu from? The kanji on the title of the vid (正木流) is Masaki-ryu, a very well known school of kusari-buki. Who was your sensei?

[Military49]

Those capture and throw techinces were so awsome!

[zommby199]

good weapon if you are attacked with fruit

[psychosiris]

Or someone's kneecaps. =P

[Beautifulfrozen]

nice

[Kwachii]

Cool.

Its very useful technique, we can keep the weapon on our pocket.

[waredgo]

Now I know what to do if I'm attacked by a fruit basket.

The capturing techniques are actually kind of alright.

[pedoro4477]

were is that at

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[alonsoup]

was that a steady cam?

[sirseigan]

One of the better produced videos I have seen in this genre. A little to slow on the fruit part and to me, who lives in northen europe, a little to kliché and "overdramtically" but for the US market I think it will work out fine.

Real Kusari with edgy chains and octa/hexagon wheghts do alot och damage and are fairly easy to handle. In short nothing to underastimate!

[esubadog]

How about swinging it in such a way that it doesn't spin around and hit you in the nuts.

[billythehobbit]

lethal... good aim would be important

[berner]

00:31 - This is how ninjas tell if they have bad breath

[Darklight689]

I got a kusari and they can be easily disguised as a wallet chain alot of kids wear em now days. People try mug you go for your wallet since hey its on a chain...whip it out and smack em in the face with it. You saw the coconut need i explain further?

[AndyTorez]

omg i love the applications at the end with the towels and GI and rope I'VE BEEN DYING TO LEARN THOSE TECHINQUES what are those called?

[pattyfpu]

Great video. I especially like how the modern day applications were done. Gi, sweater, towel, very nice.

[HidenMakimono]

Nice work !!