@mnemko That's the reason why Arrau was, is and will be the best interpreter of Beethoven. His deep understanding and spiritual insight in the work distinguishes him from any other performer, is totally unique in this.
Realmente esta sonata es increíble, es capaz de llevarte por un camino de tranquilidad y relajación inicial para terminar con un estallido de música que pone alerta a todos tus sentidos y emociones. Pero esto sólo se logra con la gran interpretación del maestro Claudio Arrau León quien es el único capaz de entender y trasmitir las emociones que Beethoven quiso plasmar en cada nota.
I just found his autograph today in a used bookstore/antique shop! I bought the book and told the owner, and he said he bought the collection 10 years ago and he has a number of other books- poetry, music.
Claudio Arrau, gran discipulo del Maestro Martin Krause, éste de Fran Liszt a la vez éste de Czerny quien fue discipulo de El Gran Maestro y compositor Ludwug Van Beethoven Keverich. GRANDE CLAUDIO ARRAU.
Un gran Pianista Chileno, dedicado para mi sobrino Vicente Jimenez que inicia un duro recorrido por la música selecta, lejos de su tierra, tal como lo hizo este gran interprete
deep, a fucking masterpiece, beethoven was touched by god, i agree with comments about jazz, this is 100 yrs haead of its time, yet somehow remains a classical piece. possibly my fav piece of all time
There is nothing greater than the combination of Beethoven and Arrau. Here we witness the birth of Jazz, and whoever doesn't hear or understand this - a hearing aid will not suffice!.
Could anyone notice a break, or even a slight discontinuity between the slow, meditative and absolutely intimate theme of the variations, and the overwhelming and uncontainable ecstasy of the "jazz" variation? This is the miracle of music. This is Beethoven - Arrau.
The finest interpreter of Beethoven in the past century - and Beetoven was the composer who understood all of life. How can we thank Claudio Arrau other than listening to his interpretations aned appreciating them?
Without a doubt, my most favorite movement out of all of Beethovens piano sonatas. As the last note fades out, there is an indescribable sense of mortality as if it is the conclusion of Beethovens life itself.
The best recording I have heard so far however, was done by Ashkenazy.
Unbelievable: you guys should get a room and make...I mean hack it out there.
Also the "jazzy" variation is the result of Beethoven experimenting with how to best express the ecstasy inside him, and any similarity to jazz or ragtime is coincidental.
Listen dude, I made a benign comment about the sublimity of this piece and how it's form, style and invention clearly resonated on a divine level with Beethoven. (trills?)
You attacked it because you're a fuckin wicca or whatever-the-fuck you are and you (of course) need not let others go about their ignorant way of Christian references when you are so enlightened by the sun (pun!). In any other situation I would have had a normal convo about music. NOPE
Anybody who uses the expressions 'kicks ass' or 'suck my dick' in a discussion of these most refined musical works has effectively let himself out of consideration. Maybe you should go log on to WoW and kill some more cartoon monsters to prove what a big man you are. :P
Well, those of us who have come to the conclusion that Beethoven's oeuvre represents the greatest manifestation of individual musical genius should consider ourselves privileged to have had the experience, and not try to convince others. People come to such a realization of their own accord, not because someone tells them (although it is nice for like-minded people to gently share their feeling about it occasionally). Those who don't know this may be more attuned to some other area of endeavor
@witchcraftlord Let's see, which one of the 16 words in that sentence was too much for you to handle? Or did you take it back because you finally got it? Would it be easier for your little mascara-wearing-self to understand if I said it made me believe it the divinity of the pagan godhead of wicca? Douchebag.
@witchcraftlord You're an absolute moron. I don't give a shit about paganism or whatever bullshit tool you use to self medicate. It was a facetious joke. Sort of like you.
@witchcraftlord Ignorance abounds. 1) You can't really articulate an intelligent thought because your grammar is so atrocious B) You obviously know nothing about the work of Beethoven to know what actually served as inspiration to much of his writing purpose 4) How emo are you?
@witchcraftlord Sorry. I haven't clicked on a single one of your videos. Maybe you should stop making obnoxious comments everywhere; I can guarantee someone else has seen these and decided you don't know what you're talking about.
@witchcraftlord If this happens to you a lot, logic would tell you the problem isn't us. (Wait for the lightlbulb to go off.)
Besides, deleting all your comments only makes you look like a solid Beethoven supporter and Musician. Enjoy life, you may find it a little lonely unless you change your 'tude.
Yes, there are many surpassingly great pieces of music - we don't want to sacrifice our appreciation of any of them. I would just add that this sonata can be played by one person in about 25 min., and when listened to by one person, more or less in solitude, it achieves a unique and wonderful effect on the mind, unequalled in my experience. Beethoven seems to have broken the subject/object barrier, if you will, more than any other artist; this piece is a prime example of that.
"many would argue he lacked the technique that Mozart and Bach had and had to resort to renovations to express his emotions."
One might as well argue that because the moon landings required the innovation of new vehicles, and couldn't be accomplished on the Nina, the Pinta or the Santa Maria, they somehow don't represent the greatest feat of exploration so far achieved.
this movement is the finest piece of music ever written
perhaps you will grow away from wanting to make such judgments, perhaps you already have.. but I respect what you said, as this may be the most emotionally expansive and spiritually liberating piece of solo keyboard music in existence - an opinion shared by more than a few
that men was from my city in chile ,,,,,was the better pianist from chillan city,,,,, and he play the piano for the first time at age 7 in the catedral
how privilege we are for being able to hear such achievment of human genius in the art of music! thinking about when it were wrote and the "jazzy" groove make we think on what an incredible mind and creative force this man had. Forever thank you, Ludwig
Human experience is pretty complicated, but Beethoven fit a lot if it in this one little aria... if the soul could fit in just one piece of music, maybe this is it.
Anyone who says this movement is "jazzy" needs a kick in the balls. It's an expression of the highest ecstasy, not some lame music for dancing. It deals with the emotions of human nature, life and especially death, and the sonata as an art-form. Not with jazz.
@rallestar1You've probably misunderstood my comment. I know diddly-squat about jazz, what I meant was crossing boundaries. I'm thinking of Wagner's Tristan-chord which represents the boundary between diatonic and atonal music and of Webern's Langsamer Satz for string quartet. I don't really know what "jazzy" means, but maintain that Beethoven here, as often, especially in his later compositions, transcends all boundaries. And BTW, I'm a middle-aged woman and a mother, but you're welcome to kick.
The audacity of Beethoven! Working within the sonata - tradition and giving birth to jazz. The greatest of all times and the only, only composer I would take to my desert island. Arrau is in this league and we know where he is playing now -
My friends, Without any doubts, Arrau was and will always be the greatest concert pianist mankind has known,. What he did is absolutely unique, he had the most amazing technique evere, and the ability to capture the soul and spirit of the music that is unequaled!! Even when he puts an enormous strenght in the music, the sound is increadible warm and soft. And what thrills!!! Is it even possible to do like that?! No one could match his chrystalclear sound, even in his Islamey from 1928 its clear!
If you're in a vulnerable place in your life, like I am at the moment, this is such a wonderful thing to hear. Every time I hear it, but especially now, I feel like i am to burst in tears. I never can write, read or think and feel enough about this music. It is so mesmerizing...and beautiful.
@rickelmonoggin YES! I've been trying to tell this to many friends interested in classical music for a long time - but they don't really get it. This is the birth of jazz and Beethoven is everything that life is all about.
@rickelmonoggin Right! I've been trying to tell my dear friends who love classical music but who are not very knowledgeable that the last movement of Beethoven's last piano sonata represents the birth of Jazz. And long live Arrau!
No me cansaré de ver y escuchar este video. Beethoven no hay duda que Dios te utilizó para hacer música. Mil gracias maestro Arrau por su interpretación. WOW!!!!!
muchos dicen que es jazz pero no es rock como elvis i mejor que elvis se puede decir .det är många som säger att det är jazz men nej det är rock som elvis fast bättre.underbart att höra .
que se puede decir fantastico ,vad ska man säga de chillan chile i alemania lo mejor para el mundo från chillan chile och tyskland endast det bästa.arrau lizt i beethoven .
Just the opening; so moving. It speaks so directly to the heart. I think that is why this music never leaves you indifferent to it. Beethoven is such an explorer of the total range of human thought, feeling, experience. I always feel a little bit sad at the beginning but it is almost a work in which - like the works of bach - you are so close to the proces of the composer that persormer and composer merge in a certain way, and then it starts to blossom, to grow, to live as real good music should
In my genuine and most humble opinion, this movement is the finest piece of music ever written. Consdering you take into account everything else Beethoven wrote, plus the works of Chopin, Bach, Mozart and Haydn, that's a pretty bold claim. But it expresses every human emotion that exists and explores new meters and stylings in different parts of the piece. Beethoven was without question, the greatest musician of his or any age.
I have, and love it dearly, but this piece just speaks to me. That's the real beauty of music isn't it, it can connect with different people in different ways....
It amuses/irritates/saddens me sometimes when I read people slating each other's views on music or interpretations of different pieces. The whole point of the genius of these guys was to write music that speaks directly to individuals. That's why this is music endures and why new people find joy in it in different ways centuries after the composers have died... I wish people would just take it for what it is - truly beautiful, superbly crafted music.
@FulchesterUnited Right!!! He was ahead 100 years!!! Only a genius could compose such a modern masterpiece in this wonderful way!!!!! We are in front of a mankid's genius for sure!!! I think he must be considered the greatest one even if Bach, Mozart had been very great too.
@FulchesterUnited - well i think the problem with Beethoven is he lacks the spirituality of Bach so he has to resort to certain dramatic devices to bring out emotion. His symphonies are outstanding but too often his keyboard works end up sounding like parodies of themselves.
@FulchesterUnited I highly doubt you have looked into all works of Bach and Mozart. It is also important not to consider whether one had heard a work once but many times through different interpretations. In terms of sound, Beethoven's potential is rendered rather easily compared to the other two so it doesn't necessitate listening to multiple versions. I agree though that this is one of Beethoven's finest pieces!
@Enix5548 and @day7pettersens - this is the problem with classical music. It's guarded jealously by snobs like yourselves. Beethoven lacks "spirituality"? Since when was God anything to do with music. I find Bach's music rigidly structured and entirely WITHOUT any sort of spirituality and @Enix5548, Beethoven more than fulfilled his potential. He just didn't conform to what people like expected him to do.
@FulchesterUnited Some who did not experience Bach should keep their mouth shut. Beethoven is one of my favorite composers and I did not undermine his achievements. You could argue he did not conform to what people expected him to do but many would argue he lacked the technique that Mozart and Bach had and had to resort to renovations to express his emotions. You can call me a snob but I see yourself as one who automatically rejects structure and praise "Romantic" emotions.
@Enix5548 I think that saying that Beethoven LACKED the technique of Bach and Mozart is simply ridicoulous. If there's someone who should keep his mouth shut is you.
@degreplayspiano Looks like someone was butthurt. I was referring to people who said those things, not about what I thought. If I'm not mistaken, past composers like Schubert commented on Beethoven's technique negatively. And I know what I am talking about so keep your ignorance off the internet.
@Enix5548 It's true that you referred other people's opinion, but in that phrase it seemed that you agreed with those people. If it's not so, i'm happy for you, it means that you don't think such a stupid thing. One question: if that was not your opinion, and so you agree with me that Beethoven had a great technique, why do you call me ignorant? You seem to be quite contradictory and impolite.
@FulchesterUnited By the way when day7pettersens was referring to "spirituality" he did not mention God. Just shows how conceited and stubborn you really are. Just stick with your "genuine and most humble opinion" instead of calling other people snobs.
I agree with absolutely every word you say here, so there's really no point in repeating it. My whole life of listening to music, working as a film music editor, etc etc etc, only confirms that what you say is true. This is the greatest piece of music ever written.
I can't blame you for saying that. This is a prayer and praise to God for the His love after the life turmoil portrayed in the first mvmt. I do believe thogh that after hear the b minor mass and the st mattehw passion you will join Beethoven and every other composer in taking off your hat. This 111, like the Rach 3, are profound spiritual masterpieces though.
@FulchesterUnited Beethoven is great, my first favourite, but hes not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, there would be no Beethoven without Bach.
Also, this "there would be no ____ without ______" as an argument for determining quality is really meaningless. Judge their works and decide for yourself. For me, Beethoven was the greatest in scope and profundity.
@alvinkuo777 What is your fucking problem? What the fuck do you mean "Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking?" You are not the fucking authority of what is good music, dont fucking shoot down what i say and call it a mere meaningless argument, you have no talent , you are no musician, you dont know anything about music, i loved Beethoven , but he is not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, there would be no Beethoven without Bach.
@alvinkuo777 YEAH thats right I said Beethoven is not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, what did you write " Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking?" , Bach , Vivaldi and Telemann are musical gods, If you dont appreciate Vivaldi and Telemann, Handel, or the other great baroque masters , you a fucking loser, you dont know what you are talking about you are no musician,
@alvinkuo777 I can say that if I want, i am not trying to make arguments for determining quality, dont you fucking dare call what i say meaningless, you cant say Beethoven is the greatest without even mentioning the masters of music BACH , VIVALDI , TELEMANN, HANDEL, they should be mentioned before Beethoven, .. BACH IS THE greatest musician and composer ever! anyone that doesnt agree can suck my dick
@witchcraftlord Ha, just read your profile. FUCK I'm good. Don't even get me started you little black rag. I'll turn you inside out, and not in the way you're used to.
@witchcraftlord Everyone get a load of this kid. No wonder you are so angry. People actually genuinely hate you. no one who is well liked would come on youtube and attack benign comments like it's going out of style.
@alvinkuo777 Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking? NO I AM NO JOKING, Havent you heard Vivaldi, Telemann or some good baroque music?, it kicks the prissy classical music in the ass! Beethoven is not the greatest composer compared to Bach, Vivaldi , Telemann or Handel, ... Telemann alone wrote more than 3000 works, ... in music, you need to give credit to the founding masters of music, you cant say Beethoven is any more great than Bach, Vivaldi, Handel , or Telemann
7:58 the most heartbreaking music
MrBuxt 2 weeks ago
beethoven es el padre del jazz! geniooooooooooo!
kalaopia 1 month ago
How about that Ragtime feel @6:56 jazz before its time
rock27863 1 month ago
If you want to know Bach, listen to Glenn Gould. If you want Beethoven, listen to Claudio Arrau!
abandeli 2 months ago 2
I've heard Schnabel, Brendel, and others. I find Arrau's sensitivity transcendent.
mnemko 5 months ago
@mnemko That's the reason why Arrau was, is and will be the best interpreter of Beethoven. His deep understanding and spiritual insight in the work distinguishes him from any other performer, is totally unique in this.
Ray0X0 4 months ago 2
Realmente esta sonata es increíble, es capaz de llevarte por un camino de tranquilidad y relajación inicial para terminar con un estallido de música que pone alerta a todos tus sentidos y emociones. Pero esto sólo se logra con la gran interpretación del maestro Claudio Arrau León quien es el único capaz de entender y trasmitir las emociones que Beethoven quiso plasmar en cada nota.
javtaek 5 months ago
Swing dell'ottocento!
:-)
ancxjo 5 months ago
beautiful...Groovie on 6:56 :-D
kroni1911 5 months ago 2
Gotta love those primitive comments. "Fcuk off and die" under Beethoven's name.Internet is infested with low lifes.
guitarfan1979 6 months ago
Gran Maestro Claudio Arrau.
orver2009 6 months ago
I just found his autograph today in a used bookstore/antique shop! I bought the book and told the owner, and he said he bought the collection 10 years ago and he has a number of other books- poetry, music.
GraniteQuarrier 6 months ago
6:50 a pure masterpiece by a mankind's genius!!!
iguarni 6 months ago
De los mejores interpretes de beethoven q han existido - MAESTRO CLAUDIO ARRAU
MrSilvestre12345 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The greatest thing Germany ever produced: Beethoven; the greatest things Chile ever produced: Neruda and Arrau.
phortion 6 months ago
Comment removed
phortion 6 months ago
that is certainly jazz, boogie-woogie like
goofycker 6 months ago
True sounds of heaven. Bravo. <3
nightstar1023 6 months ago
Non mi piace, lenta e prolissa, ascoltate GLENN GOULD O MICHELANGELI DECCA
MrALCOTTS 6 months ago
beethoven really is the greatest composer.
mcrettable 6 months ago 18
@mcrettable for sure!!!! even if Mozart and Bach had been fantastic , LVB is the most complete and he is a pure mankind' genius!!!
iguarni 6 months ago
@iguarni ma non dire cazzate
giangra92 5 months ago
@giangra92 non le dire tu. piccolo ignorante impara l'educazione! ognuno è libero di esprimere il proprio parere.
iguarni 5 months ago
the end
s01ledredberry 7 months ago
Claudio Arrau, gran discipulo del Maestro Martin Krause, éste de Fran Liszt a la vez éste de Czerny quien fue discipulo de El Gran Maestro y compositor Ludwug Van Beethoven Keverich. GRANDE CLAUDIO ARRAU.
orver2009 7 months ago
6:50 A GENIUS'S PALYING!
iguarni 7 months ago
belmar, super !!!!! magnifico, bello, profundo, gran interprete...
alebelmar77 7 months ago
belmar, super !!!!!
alebelmar77 7 months ago
Everybody good this wonderful music really pleasant to hear performance's attagirl
twgirl1 7 months ago
This is most beautyful sonata after moonlight.
dodekm1 8 months ago
Un gran Pianista Chileno, dedicado para mi sobrino Vicente Jimenez que inicia un duro recorrido por la música selecta, lejos de su tierra, tal como lo hizo este gran interprete
germanhernandez1983 8 months ago
That part at 6:55 wow. Beethoven unleashes boogie woogie.
gigie555 8 months ago 3
Beethoven is understood, jazz is born and Arrau communicates this.
VivaRenata 8 months ago 4
Now that i am mature and i hear this again, i delete my old arguments against this, and i tell you that this is FUCKING AMAZING!
Laudan08 8 months ago
deep, a fucking masterpiece, beethoven was touched by god, i agree with comments about jazz, this is 100 yrs haead of its time, yet somehow remains a classical piece. possibly my fav piece of all time
featherinthewind123 9 months ago 3
Not the greatest interpretation I've heard... Ivo Pogorelich's interpretation is clearer. But it's not on YouTube...
hebertma 9 months ago 2
I always feel strange when I think about both the composer and the pianist is just dirt in the ground today... :(
slowkvant 9 months ago
We can only thank Beethoven but must also thank Arrau - for the incomparable interpreter of the composer that he was. Nothing else to say. Bravi !!!
VivaRenata 9 months ago
it really pisses me off when i look for wonderful comments and all i can find is a stupid arguments between 2 people
mlr2107 10 months ago 17
@imrich6 at least they're arguing about this and not lady gaga
thepickletrain 10 months ago
BIS !!! BIS !!!
VivaRenata 10 months ago
BIS !!!!! BIS !!!!!
VivaRenata 10 months ago
Beethoven - Arrau. felpilloo1984 - si mancano le parole - nothing more can be said.
VivaRenata 10 months ago
There is nothing greater than the combination of Beethoven and Arrau. Here we witness the birth of Jazz, and whoever doesn't hear or understand this - a hearing aid will not suffice!.
VivaRenata 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
There is nothing greater than the combination of Beethoven and Arrau.
VivaRenata 10 months ago
4 people clicked the wrong option!
alexmanzo19 10 months ago
@alexmanzo19 Never mind, they're either blind or simply stupid!
VivaRenata 10 months ago
@alexmanzo19 4 people's jaws dropped so hard their mouse clicked on the dislike button by mistake.
GlennMagusHarvey 6 months ago
Could anyone notice a break, or even a slight discontinuity between the slow, meditative and absolutely intimate theme of the variations, and the overwhelming and uncontainable ecstasy of the "jazz" variation? This is the miracle of music. This is Beethoven - Arrau.
felipilloo1984 10 months ago
@felipilloo1984 I like that continuity, and I feel that it's represented in Beethoven not labeling the variations as variations.
GlennMagusHarvey 6 months ago
The finest interpreter of Beethoven in the past century - and Beetoven was the composer who understood all of life. How can we thank Claudio Arrau other than listening to his interpretations aned appreciating them?
VivaRenata 10 months ago 2
Without a doubt, my most favorite movement out of all of Beethovens piano sonatas. As the last note fades out, there is an indescribable sense of mortality as if it is the conclusion of Beethovens life itself.
The best recording I have heard so far however, was done by Ashkenazy.
Gibson29 11 months ago
@Gibson29 I think it's a sense of immortality. That the spiritual purity of this arietta theme transcends time.
The fact that this piece prophesies boogie-woogie helps reinforce that.
GlennMagusHarvey 6 months ago
Unbelievable: you guys should get a room and make...I mean hack it out there.
Also the "jazzy" variation is the result of Beethoven experimenting with how to best express the ecstasy inside him, and any similarity to jazz or ragtime is coincidental.
alvinkuo777 1 year ago
@alvinkuo777 you damn right!
DolfLoneWolf 11 months ago
commas,and,question,marks,?everywhere.
Listen dude, I made a benign comment about the sublimity of this piece and how it's form, style and invention clearly resonated on a divine level with Beethoven. (trills?)
You attacked it because you're a fuckin wicca or whatever-the-fuck you are and you (of course) need not let others go about their ignorant way of Christian references when you are so enlightened by the sun (pun!). In any other situation I would have had a normal convo about music. NOPE
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
glenn gould was right. studio performances are so much better. don't have to put up with the snorting sneezing and coughing from the audience.
cirosuperiore 1 year ago
Anybody who uses the expressions 'kicks ass' or 'suck my dick' in a discussion of these most refined musical works has effectively let himself out of consideration. Maybe you should go log on to WoW and kill some more cartoon monsters to prove what a big man you are. :P
dripglass 1 year ago
Well, those of us who have come to the conclusion that Beethoven's oeuvre represents the greatest manifestation of individual musical genius should consider ourselves privileged to have had the experience, and not try to convince others. People come to such a realization of their own accord, not because someone tells them (although it is nice for like-minded people to gently share their feeling about it occasionally). Those who don't know this may be more attuned to some other area of endeavor
dripglass 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Let's see, which one of the 16 words in that sentence was too much for you to handle? Or did you take it back because you finally got it? Would it be easier for your little mascara-wearing-self to understand if I said it made me believe it the divinity of the pagan godhead of wicca? Douchebag.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord You're an absolute moron. I don't give a shit about paganism or whatever bullshit tool you use to self medicate. It was a facetious joke. Sort of like you.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
This piece made a confused teenager believe in god and the divinity of the human soul.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@toneeeeeee what the fuck are you talking about, this music has nothing to do with god or the human soul its just random piano music,
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Ignorance abounds. 1) You can't really articulate an intelligent thought because your grammar is so atrocious B) You obviously know nothing about the work of Beethoven to know what actually served as inspiration to much of his writing purpose 4) How emo are you?
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Emo. Read his letters and do your research. Nearly every musicologist disagrees with you.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Sorry. I haven't clicked on a single one of your videos. Maybe you should stop making obnoxious comments everywhere; I can guarantee someone else has seen these and decided you don't know what you're talking about.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Beethoven's letters, toolbag.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord I put pianist because I didn't want to put Milf Hunter. What the fuck do you care?
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord If this happens to you a lot, logic would tell you the problem isn't us. (Wait for the lightlbulb to go off.)
Besides, deleting all your comments only makes you look like a solid Beethoven supporter and Musician. Enjoy life, you may find it a little lonely unless you change your 'tude.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
... il tempo... arrau è un grandissimo interprete
canummare 1 year ago
At 6:55, Beethoven invents jazz! No one picks up on the discovery for 80 years!
I agree, a great movement, but I can't live without the Pathetique 2nd, 2nd of the 7th Symyphony, and, of course, the 4th of the 9th Symphony.
Beethoven is the only composer to revolutionize music TWICE: his Heroic period and the Late Mystical period.
Ron Russell
Author of the play "Beethoven: Heaven's Voice"
sunpowernatural 1 year ago
@sunpowernatural i know ! it sounds so much like jazz, i was trying to explain that to someone and they just had no idea , they kept arguing,
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
¿El piano de los tiempos de Beethoven era igual al piano de nuestros tiempos? O sea ¿tenía la misma cantidad de teclas, afinación, etc?
Ray0X0 1 year ago
@imrich6 LOL
tlalotoani 1 year ago
Yes, there are many surpassingly great pieces of music - we don't want to sacrifice our appreciation of any of them. I would just add that this sonata can be played by one person in about 25 min., and when listened to by one person, more or less in solitude, it achieves a unique and wonderful effect on the mind, unequalled in my experience. Beethoven seems to have broken the subject/object barrier, if you will, more than any other artist; this piece is a prime example of that.
dripglass 1 year ago
Comment removed
dripglass 1 year ago
"many would argue he lacked the technique that Mozart and Bach had and had to resort to renovations to express his emotions."
One might as well argue that because the moon landings required the innovation of new vehicles, and couldn't be accomplished on the Nina, the Pinta or the Santa Maria, they somehow don't represent the greatest feat of exploration so far achieved.
dripglass 1 year ago
The flight across the Atlantic lasts only 2 minutes!
MrRicRJ 1 year ago
At 5:00, you leave Bonn, and at 7:00, you land in New Orleans.
MrRicRJ 1 year ago 2
haha i didn't know claudio could swing his notes so hard :p
bboymango 1 year ago
Ah, now I see: this vid is split in two. The best however comes in 2/2.
Nice playing!
Satnamusic 1 year ago
Man, the best part is missing! This stops after the fourth variations! How can you post such a video where the climax is just simply cut off.
Otherwise nicely played, old Claudio.
Satnamusic 1 year ago
this movement is the finest piece of music ever written
perhaps you will grow away from wanting to make such judgments, perhaps you already have.. but I respect what you said, as this may be the most emotionally expansive and spiritually liberating piece of solo keyboard music in existence - an opinion shared by more than a few
dripglass 1 year ago
"Form is emptiness; emptiness is form."
wandersong 1 year ago
This is Beethoven's best movement played by the best Beethoven pianist ever!
gerardbedecarter 1 year ago
Absolute perfection..
Paps4short 1 year ago
that men was from my city in chile ,,,,,was the better pianist from chillan city,,,,, and he play the piano for the first time at age 7 in the catedral
gonzalo78g1 1 year ago
ohhh jazz!! :)
ARTEPARALAPAZ 1 year ago
how privilege we are for being able to hear such achievment of human genius in the art of music! thinking about when it were wrote and the "jazzy" groove make we think on what an incredible mind and creative force this man had. Forever thank you, Ludwig
igordrm 1 year ago 5
This performance is so good there is nothing to say. Certainly nothing I can come close to expressing.
newcjon 1 year ago
Human experience is pretty complicated, but Beethoven fit a lot if it in this one little aria... if the soul could fit in just one piece of music, maybe this is it.
davus0 1 year ago 2
Anyone who says this movement is "jazzy" needs a kick in the balls. It's an expression of the highest ecstasy, not some lame music for dancing. It deals with the emotions of human nature, life and especially death, and the sonata as an art-form. Not with jazz.
rallestar1 1 year ago
@rallestar1You've probably misunderstood my comment. I know diddly-squat about jazz, what I meant was crossing boundaries. I'm thinking of Wagner's Tristan-chord which represents the boundary between diatonic and atonal music and of Webern's Langsamer Satz for string quartet. I don't really know what "jazzy" means, but maintain that Beethoven here, as often, especially in his later compositions, transcends all boundaries. And BTW, I'm a middle-aged woman and a mother, but you're welcome to kick.
VivaRenata 1 year ago
The audacity of Beethoven! Working within the sonata - tradition and giving birth to jazz. The greatest of all times and the only, only composer I would take to my desert island. Arrau is in this league and we know where he is playing now -
VivaRenata 1 year ago
My friends, Without any doubts, Arrau was and will always be the greatest concert pianist mankind has known,. What he did is absolutely unique, he had the most amazing technique evere, and the ability to capture the soul and spirit of the music that is unequaled!! Even when he puts an enormous strenght in the music, the sound is increadible warm and soft. And what thrills!!! Is it even possible to do like that?! No one could match his chrystalclear sound, even in his Islamey from 1928 its clear!
Jakopsohn 1 year ago 3
beethoven the creator of boogie woogie
semicroma 1 year ago
If you're in a vulnerable place in your life, like I am at the moment, this is such a wonderful thing to hear. Every time I hear it, but especially now, I feel like i am to burst in tears. I never can write, read or think and feel enough about this music. It is so mesmerizing...and beautiful.
dajohnthomas69 1 year ago 19
@dajohnthomas69 Ditto. Beethoven represents all that life is and listening to his compositions will always remind you of that which is essential.
VivaRenata 11 months ago
@dajohnthomas69 you can write music like this, you just gotta have the right emotions, pain and tragedy in your heart.
hellnoid90 10 months ago
endast det bästa ,solo lo mejor
erasmobernales 1 year ago 3
Quisas lo mejor de la vida que uno quiere escuchar en musica .kanske det bästa man kan lyssna när det gäller musik.
erasmobernales 1 year ago
The way I like to read it: Halfway through this very slow and meditative classical piece, Beethoven thought, fuck it, let's just invent Jazz!
rickelmonoggin 1 year ago 23
@rickelmonoggin Well, when "reading" it's not a question of how one likes to read "it," it's a question of being able to read "it."
plateau5valley5 1 year ago
@plateau5valley5 I disagree. all interpretation is subjective to some degree.
rickelmonoggin 1 year ago
@rickelmonoggin YES! I've been trying to tell this to many friends interested in classical music for a long time - but they don't really get it. This is the birth of jazz and Beethoven is everything that life is all about.
VivaRenata 11 months ago
@rickelmonoggin Right! I've been trying to tell my dear friends who love classical music but who are not very knowledgeable that the last movement of Beethoven's last piano sonata represents the birth of Jazz. And long live Arrau!
VivaRenata 10 months ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 2 years ago
Comment removed
rtascon 2 years ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 2 years ago
Comment removed
rtascon 2 years ago
The greatest pianist after Liszt, CLAUDIO ARRAU.
Beethoven's Pater Noster im Celum, Opus 111.
Oxenoverborragia 2 years ago 2
jupiterki si i el comienso de la musica moderna post guerra que alomejor tu no sabes nada de eso arrogante ignorante .
erasmobernales 2 years ago
Expert of Beethoven!!
felix0911176727 2 years ago
era mas wueno que el pan con chancho
jupiterki 2 years ago
dicen que con copete tocaba mejor
jupiterki 2 years ago
Beethoven is my favorite composer and this is my favorite piece,
joaofelixalves 2 years ago
No me cansaré de ver y escuchar este video. Beethoven no hay duda que Dios te utilizó para hacer música. Mil gracias maestro Arrau por su interpretación. WOW!!!!!
jfda81 2 years ago 2
muchos dicen que es jazz pero no es rock como elvis i mejor que elvis se puede decir .det är många som säger att det är jazz men nej det är rock som elvis fast bättre.underbart att höra .
erasmobernales 2 years ago
bueno es musika de vanguardia despues de la guerra en el final que es grandioso es el principio de el rock
erasmobernales 2 years ago
que se puede decir fantastico ,vad ska man säga de chillan chile i alemania lo mejor para el mundo från chillan chile och tyskland endast det bästa.arrau lizt i beethoven .
erasmobernales 2 years ago
I think you could do the charleston to this at times!
catgumart 2 years ago
Just the opening; so moving. It speaks so directly to the heart. I think that is why this music never leaves you indifferent to it. Beethoven is such an explorer of the total range of human thought, feeling, experience. I always feel a little bit sad at the beginning but it is almost a work in which - like the works of bach - you are so close to the proces of the composer that persormer and composer merge in a certain way, and then it starts to blossom, to grow, to live as real good music should
dajohnthomas69 2 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Beethoven.
Thank you, Mr. Arrau.
Than you, Spexter1337.
This is not only music. It`s a miracle.
grakelonio 2 years ago 8
holy crap. It's practically swing/ragtime at 7:00
amilisom 2 years ago 2
yeah, i read somewhere this is the first time jazz came into existence....
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
Beethoven was a century ahead, he already thought the rythms of jazz, and it's simply beautiful listening to this music!
trendypity 2 years ago
In my genuine and most humble opinion, this movement is the finest piece of music ever written. Consdering you take into account everything else Beethoven wrote, plus the works of Chopin, Bach, Mozart and Haydn, that's a pretty bold claim. But it expresses every human emotion that exists and explores new meters and stylings in different parts of the piece. Beethoven was without question, the greatest musician of his or any age.
FulchesterUnited 2 years ago 42
have you ever listened to Chopins 4th Ballade?
lepiffou 2 years ago
I have, and love it dearly, but this piece just speaks to me. That's the real beauty of music isn't it, it can connect with different people in different ways....
FulchesterUnited 2 years ago 2
sure it can!
lepiffou 2 years ago
It amuses/irritates/saddens me sometimes when I read people slating each other's views on music or interpretations of different pieces. The whole point of the genius of these guys was to write music that speaks directly to individuals. That's why this is music endures and why new people find joy in it in different ways centuries after the composers have died... I wish people would just take it for what it is - truly beautiful, superbly crafted music.
FulchesterUnited 2 years ago 4
@FulchesterUnited You have expressed what I feel more eloquently than I ever could. I can only thank you for this.
VivaRenata 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited
I agree. This is the highest point of the whole western repertoire.
gordonsta2 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@FulchesterUnited Right!!! He was ahead 100 years!!! Only a genius could compose such a modern masterpiece in this wonderful way!!!!! We are in front of a mankid's genius for sure!!! I think he must be considered the greatest one even if Bach, Mozart had been very great too.
iguarni 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited - well i think the problem with Beethoven is he lacks the spirituality of Bach so he has to resort to certain dramatic devices to bring out emotion. His symphonies are outstanding but too often his keyboard works end up sounding like parodies of themselves.
day7pettersens 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited I highly doubt you have looked into all works of Bach and Mozart. It is also important not to consider whether one had heard a work once but many times through different interpretations. In terms of sound, Beethoven's potential is rendered rather easily compared to the other two so it doesn't necessitate listening to multiple versions. I agree though that this is one of Beethoven's finest pieces!
Enix5548 1 year ago
@Enix5548 and @day7pettersens - this is the problem with classical music. It's guarded jealously by snobs like yourselves. Beethoven lacks "spirituality"? Since when was God anything to do with music. I find Bach's music rigidly structured and entirely WITHOUT any sort of spirituality and @Enix5548, Beethoven more than fulfilled his potential. He just didn't conform to what people like expected him to do.
FulchesterUnited 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited Some who did not experience Bach should keep their mouth shut. Beethoven is one of my favorite composers and I did not undermine his achievements. You could argue he did not conform to what people expected him to do but many would argue he lacked the technique that Mozart and Bach had and had to resort to renovations to express his emotions. You can call me a snob but I see yourself as one who automatically rejects structure and praise "Romantic" emotions.
Enix5548 1 year ago
@Enix5548 I think that saying that Beethoven LACKED the technique of Bach and Mozart is simply ridicoulous. If there's someone who should keep his mouth shut is you.
degreplayspiano 1 year ago
@degreplayspiano Looks like someone was butthurt. I was referring to people who said those things, not about what I thought. If I'm not mistaken, past composers like Schubert commented on Beethoven's technique negatively. And I know what I am talking about so keep your ignorance off the internet.
Enix5548 1 year ago
@Enix5548 It's true that you referred other people's opinion, but in that phrase it seemed that you agreed with those people. If it's not so, i'm happy for you, it means that you don't think such a stupid thing. One question: if that was not your opinion, and so you agree with me that Beethoven had a great technique, why do you call me ignorant? You seem to be quite contradictory and impolite.
degreplayspiano 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited By the way when day7pettersens was referring to "spirituality" he did not mention God. Just shows how conceited and stubborn you really are. Just stick with your "genuine and most humble opinion" instead of calling other people snobs.
Enix5548 1 year ago
@Enix5548 Thanks for continuing to make my point, I need say nothing else.
FulchesterUnited 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited Nicely put by someone who really didn't know what he is talking about. You're welcome.
Enix5548 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited
I agree with absolutely every word you say here, so there's really no point in repeating it. My whole life of listening to music, working as a film music editor, etc etc etc, only confirms that what you say is true. This is the greatest piece of music ever written.
gordonsta2 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited couldnt have said it any better...bravo...i was beginning to think i was the only person in the world who understood this...
rock27863 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited
I can't blame you for saying that. This is a prayer and praise to God for the His love after the life turmoil portrayed in the first mvmt. I do believe thogh that after hear the b minor mass and the st mattehw passion you will join Beethoven and every other composer in taking off your hat. This 111, like the Rach 3, are profound spiritual masterpieces though.
yenrabaraho 1 year ago
@FulchesterUnited Beethoven is great, my first favourite, but hes not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, there would be no Beethoven without Bach.
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking?
Also, this "there would be no ____ without ______" as an argument for determining quality is really meaningless. Judge their works and decide for yourself. For me, Beethoven was the greatest in scope and profundity.
alvinkuo777 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@alvinkuo777 What is your fucking problem? What the fuck do you mean "Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking?" You are not the fucking authority of what is good music, dont fucking shoot down what i say and call it a mere meaningless argument, you have no talent , you are no musician, you dont know anything about music, i loved Beethoven , but he is not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, there would be no Beethoven without Bach.
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@alvinkuo777 YEAH thats right I said Beethoven is not the greatest compared to the likes of Bach, Vivaldi and Telemann, what did you write " Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking?" , Bach , Vivaldi and Telemann are musical gods, If you dont appreciate Vivaldi and Telemann, Handel, or the other great baroque masters , you a fucking loser, you dont know what you are talking about you are no musician,
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@alvinkuo777 I can say that if I want, i am not trying to make arguments for determining quality, dont you fucking dare call what i say meaningless, you cant say Beethoven is the greatest without even mentioning the masters of music BACH , VIVALDI , TELEMANN, HANDEL, they should be mentioned before Beethoven, .. BACH IS THE greatest musician and composer ever! anyone that doesnt agree can suck my dick
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Ha, just read your profile. FUCK I'm good. Don't even get me started you little black rag. I'll turn you inside out, and not in the way you're used to.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord Everyone get a load of this kid. No wonder you are so angry. People actually genuinely hate you. no one who is well liked would come on youtube and attack benign comments like it's going out of style.
toneeeeeee 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
Comment removed
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@alvinkuo777 Vivaldi and Telemann? Are you joking? NO I AM NO JOKING, Havent you heard Vivaldi, Telemann or some good baroque music?, it kicks the prissy classical music in the ass! Beethoven is not the greatest composer compared to Bach, Vivaldi , Telemann or Handel, ... Telemann alone wrote more than 3000 works, ... in music, you need to give credit to the founding masters of music, you cant say Beethoven is any more great than Bach, Vivaldi, Handel , or Telemann
witchcraftlord 1 year ago