i dont buy that it was a light reflection. i can clearly make out the arm reaching over his right shoulder.
as for your shellfish gun statement, thats not what he said. dont simplify things to make people seem dumb.
If cooper ever lied about anything it was purely unintentional. he got all of his material and ideas from actual government documents, so if anyone is lying about anything it is not the researcher but the govt. cooper might not have all the answers, but hes was a damn good man
people ARE REALLY STUPID, mostly because the government wants you that way, ALL OF THE JFK FILMS ARE EDITED, EXCEPT THIS ONE... IT LOOKS CLEAR TO ME THAT HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT AND NOT THE BACK WHEN HE WAS KILLED, AND IN 911 IF YOU THINK THE ONLY 3 SKY SCAPPERS TO EVER FALL IN MANKIND CAUSED BY FIRE, AND 1 WASNT EVEN HIT BY A PLANE,YOU HAVE TO BE RETARTED.......... THOUSANDS OF INOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED THAT DAY, AND BUSH GOT THE BEST OF IT, BY CASHING IN,, AND MAKING UP SOME FAKE WAR......
Thank you for filling me in. How convenient to have him killed. Perhaps now there are way 2 many of us who are waiting for answers. I wonder how they plan in taking us out.
At least they keep his death alive by giving their own view point. Not much can be said about your generation who never saw the NWO coming and maybe you still dont. Had your generation blow the whisle then maybe we would not be in this mess today.
For you that know the shine in the film was not a firearm but the passengers head. You ask why does it reflex the sun?
The reason was BRYLCEEM. We all used this white crap in our hair in that year. Below is the jingle that was on TV and radio. Look it up fellow detectives!
Bryl-creem, a little dab'll do ya,
Use more, only if you dare,
But watch out,
The gals will all pursue ya,--
They'll love to put their fingers through your hair.
I give up! You have real dragons to slay and you focus on BS because it doesn't take real work. Just Armchair fun! "Those that will not believe the truth tend to believe anything." Cooper is now in Hell regretting his sins and Jones laughs at you all the way to the bank. Quit smoking your lunch and look into the lies these guys manufacture and then do real protest, support good candidates and raise real hell until we can get this mess back to what the founding fathers desired.
I am on your side, but, there are real threats to be dealt with, without this fantasy speculation. You're being led around by the nose for $ by rotten SOB;s like Cooper and Jones. All I have is time, money and a DOD access card to all the US bases and I investigate Jones material and I find it to be half truthes twisted into lies. I have been wounded 6X. Have been an enemy of the state. President slandered me publicly. I am listed as dangerous by the leftist SPLC. Tried to follow Jones but lies.
What is wrong with you children? You are faced with death of your economy. Death of your freedom. Your generation will be the first to have less money and will die earlier and you focus on a closed case. I was present when US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy. If you just look at multiple videos you will see that the driver did not shoot Kennedy and the so called magic shot was indeed duplicated later. Same path. Same markings. This case was reexamined over and over. Same results!
The Fact that Bill Cooper announced on his radio show THREE MONTHS before 9/11 that "Something Big was going to happen and it wouldnt be a "Bin Laden" that would be behind it "..... SAYS IT ALL
AND the fact he was killed a month after 9/11? GEE ! ...what a coincidence!! William Cooper was a career Naval INTELLIGENCE officer 25yrs HE was no "Nutcase"
Altho..on second thoughts...he was! He had INTEGRITY and knew he would be crusified &discredited etc but told the TRUTH ANYWAY CRAZY GUY ...eh?
That silver you see is actually the sun glint off the radioman's head and Cooper was shot dead after shooting a deputy sheriff twice in the head. Sure jackie would ride in the car with the murderer. and he would drive her to the hospital and hang around while Jackie went into the hospital and rats him. lol!
whitenight3, If that works for you but my experience is generally they arrest you on real or trumped up charge and it goes to court or charges are dropped. I believe Cooper did not have a full deck. It is obvious as he came up with some real woppers like the one here and his UFO blather. He and Alex Jones are very similiar. He had a hand gun which is legal but touching it in the holster or drawing is a crime. He shot a deputy in the head. No getting around that. At that point you are done! Bang
Zeitgeist, Chill Out! Cooper shot Robert Marinez in the head before he was shot to death by Apache County AZ deputies. I was a AZ activist protester, been shot at, poisoned, almost framed for Domestic Terrorism, had to deal with the same as Cooper I investigate these kinds of events. It is calling taking the authorities temperature. The thing is Cops are people too. They get scared and over react. In Coopers case it was dark, he may have fired first. He had a big mouth. He resisted. KIA
But I find this hard to swallow. I mean the guy talks about spending $27K to mail copies of the tape and evidence's when it could be done so much cheaper. I could better accept that she did not see it happen. The sound of a high power rifle fireing at 50 yds may be louder that a gas pistol at point blank. But he right about the brain. I would rather first investigate 9/11 and after we get them basturds work back to JFK. It deserves our attention First
You are right, it is not a gun. However if you listen to the video, Bill Cooper explains that it was a weapon created for this hit...it fired a shell fish toxin into his brain. Try actually backing up what you say with any fact other than your totally useless word.
My own eye tells me its not a gun....the driver's left hand is still on the wheel...what appears to be a gun is actually the head of the passenger next to him...instead of focusing on the driver, focus on the passenger and it's crystal clear that what looked like a gun is actually the passenger's greasy head reflected from the sunlight... Agree?
bill cooper said he was shot he did not say it was a gun he said by a device watch the video again but common sense u don't get hit all those angles like JFK did by a man from incredible distance who's in one angle.11 days before JFK Gave a speech about destroying secret societies who threaten the world with there power that speech cost him his life so killing his brother robert was a fluke u think JFK JR had a buzz of running for office u saw what happend to him
jackie o's bodygaurd puts her back in the car when she tries to leave while shots go off ain't his job to do the opposite JFK JR said his mom never wanted him to be a politician notice he started that magazine about politics after she died teddy was loved but was not Don / Material he was the Fredo of the kennedys compared to John and Bob thats why he lived to be old had no chance to be In Power like his brothers but JR did kennedy JR had to go he had his dad and uncles politics
The gun he's talking about,couldn't generate that kind of kinetic energy!If it could, it would of blowen the gun out of his hand....That is the law of physics!If you don't beleve me watch mythbusters!And you can see for your self.
uh u blind drguffey?.....need glasses? his left arm clearly raises over his right shoulder...Now this video the pistol is not clear but i have seen better quality showing the pistol...Stop living a lie be real with yourself...Bill Cooper, may he rest in peace,had the balls that few people today have...he stood up to the federal gov. with just cause and was murdered...He predicted 911 months before the attacks and his own death so stop fucking around douche
In this video I clearly see something else than the shiny forehead of the passenger...and it would make sense to order the driver to kill JFK. Besides..evidence or not, Communists and other thugs know that reality can be "created" or altered. And that happened in the aftermath of JFK's assassination..
ok, let's say it's NOT a gun, ok? Doesn't it make sense to you to give the Driver the order to kill (in casu) JFK? I did see another vid, and there is no gun visible, but this vid...damn, so confusing.duh...
They did, and they were all mysteriously "killed" or died shortly after the assassination that day in Dallas, all within 2 years of being silenced.
William Greer, the driver, fired the fatal shot that blew off a fragment of JFK's head. Jackie knew that the driver had fired the shot, and she tried escaping the motorcade, but was urged to stay inside by the CIA guards outside the vehicle.
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What LUNACY. There's no gun in the drivers hand ! Watch "See the Driver, Yup no gun!" Here on you tube. Greers left hand is just inches from the steering wheel!
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Clearly see the gun ??? Where is it ? A frame by frame study of the Z-film shows Greers left hand inches from the steering wheel at the time JFK is shot.
I guess I don't know where you're getting that from. From this film, I can clearly see Grier's whole left arm come around with the pistol in his hand. It may look different in other films, but we know that so many versions have been doctored to make it appear different.
Well, they finally killed bill following 9/11/01. Everything he ever warned us about and told us is VERIFIED. RIP WIlliam Cooper. Their biggest mistake was killing you.
u can see clear move ment in the video the more u look at it the more u can see its 2009 we have state of the art TEC we can use it to ehance and see extactly wats in his hand i hope they do it cause i can see it ......the shadow........
so the driver shoot's kennedy and no one in the car see's him? this loon was in naval intelligence? Alex jones, george norry, art bell, micheal savage and rush limbaugh. Stop listening to these guys!, they are nuts and they love to make up stories and bend the truth and scare you just to make a profit.
@Pmtmr: Of course I don't really count either. You do have to have some sort of regocnition somewhere.
btw, I noticed you promote the 'Rock is Satanic theory, and James Wickstrom.
Do you not know about these things:
1. James Wickstrom shills for the white supremacists, and that he is connected to another highly suspicious person, William Potter Gale{who links with the John Birch Society, etc.}?
2. 'Rock and Satanism' connections were made up to discredit rock music?
@pmtmr: Well, pretty much everybody knows that the Rothschilds are Jewish{but who are the Rathskellers?}.
Yes, I've heard of a few people who went into the Jewish side of things and were murdered{Jack Bernstein, Arthur Koestler, and a few others}, but they seem to be quite the minority.
"Not everyone who exposes the elites dies" Maybe not, but did you really read my statement? I practically said most who do a lot of damage get killed off.
@Pmtmr: But then again, how come so many people who have gone on and on about 'It's the Joooooooz' have gone on to live long lives{John Beaty, Eustace Mullins, Anthony Hmura, Archibald Ramsay, etc.}. Wouldn't that strike you as suspicious, given the fact that virtually all of the people who tangle with the elites meet early deaths? Think about that.
Funny how people like Mae Brussell and Bill Cooper always seem to die early, or at least suspicious deaths{Brussell did live to be 66, but it appears that fast acting cancer may have killed her off}. You know, people who don't shill for white supremacy or call rock music 'satanic'
Also funny how so many 'satanic' musicians have actually died highly suspicious deaths over the years. Coincidence? I don't think so, ladies and gentlemen.......................
i have to question this video on the grounds that it appears to be a local news telecast. what mainstream media outlet would have such a controversial interview and open the show with it? now, if this is cable access, perhaps (perhaps) it may make it more conceivable.
Ephesians 6:12...For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
every President since has bin a zionist puppet, except Jimmy Carter, who was only half controlled
Andrew Jackson was the least controlled, and should be revered for his courage and strength against the zionist banksters, who thrive on wars and atrocities against humanity
@Brianconcannon44: Unfortunately, Jackson also played a large role in the uprooting of Native Americans, not to mention his bigtime support of slavery.
In fact, fighting the National Bank was probably the only good thing that guy ever did in officle really. And since our school history books actually tend to protray Jackson in a positive light, you have to wonder if he was really against these elites, or if he was on their side all along.
@Brianconcannon44: Also, the Zionist power structure didn't exist until 1897 at the very earliest{the year when Theodor Herzl set up the 1st Zionist Congress in Basel}.
All numerology, step on a crack coincidentals aside, you don't have to be all that smart to know that JFK was assassinated by the CIA/FBI, or that the same is cramming cocaine down our throats while using the War Against Drugs to stuff a WAD in their pants. And, should you run out of cash to buy, it's off to private, for profit prison fool, another taxpayer punch in the mouth. Uhh, lessee, how much did Cheney have invested in the prison system, about $100 million I think. Just for starters...
Yeah, but this is where the action is, let's face it. Greer shooting JFK has become the "conspiracy theory du jour," so it's the best place to find victims.
...if you believe every aspect of the "official story", get all your information from corrupt "mainstream media" & can't think for yourself, then don't expect to ever find the truth.
furthermore, this forum where you have 500 letters or less to make your point is ludicrous. it allows dumb, dismissive morons like Shutterbun2 to smother any attempt to find truth & justice.
"dismissive morons like Shutterbun2 to smother any attempt to find truth & justice."
OK, so now you're getting personal. I daresay I've expended TEN TIMES as much effort as yourself at finding "the truth" of the assassination. You and I are about the same age. I've been at this since 1986, how about you? I've got 40+ books on the assassination in my living room right now, all of which I've read & studied.
On what basis do you conclude I'm attempting to "smother" my opposition?
500 characters is more than enough space to tear a Canuck a new asshole adjacent to where his brain currently resides.
You wanna brush up on insults and name-calling, this is hardly the premier forum. You want to be embarassed by your lack of knowledge about the case at hand: this is the place.
Tell me one thing you believe about evidence of a conspiracy, and I'll be more than happy to destroy it in front of all these nice people here.
....astrology. yeah it's ridiculous, but true. i personally have no interest in astrology, ritual, ceremony, secret societies or organized religion for that matter. but that doesn't change the facts. so Shutterbun2 (man i can't u seriously with a name like that, your Gene Wilder picture in ur profile & ur naive gullability & inability to sift through information think for yourself) bugger off & realize ur an idiot.
Shutterbun2 (yeah that's the name he uses; apparently shutterbun1 was taken) can't get his mind around it. yet Skull & Bones & Bohemian Grove secret societies are real, they practice ridiculous rituals & ceremonies & have associations with people of high political power & even Presidents. hell, it was even revealed that Pres. Reagan's decisions were influenced by his wife's interest in
...JFK murdered 11th month, 22nd day, 33rd parallel (33 degrees north) google images "freemason 33 ring". Dealey Plaza seen from above forms a triangle or pyramid. it was a masonic, ritualistic killing. final suggestion: stop being a naive twit and pissing me off with your stupid replies to my posts. dumbass!!!
of course the cia killed jfk. the gun the cia said oswald used was an old gun which was not accurate enough to hit the head from the distance oswald was apparently shooting from. to do that kind of assassination u need extremely professional shooters back in 1960's. cia have all the resources to manipulate the public thinking through media control, bribery, etc.
While disregarding your VERY obvious misunderstanding of the CIA's charter, I'll suggest that you view some videos here on YouTube of a Mannlicher Carcano in action.
watch?v=uy_T7D2-Y3o&fmt=18
This is a Carcano being fired at 650 yards (about EIGHT times as far as Oswald's shots) The results speak for themselves.
I don't know if he made this story up himself or if he was given disinformation, but i'm sorry to correct late mr. Cooper on this (i don't want to tread on the dead).
It's not a gun in the hand of the driver, it's the sunlight on the head of the guy on the passenger seat.
It's still a conspiracy. Just one without the driver being part of it, as claimed to be proven by a misinterpretation of this film.
ok thanks cooper im with it i wanna believe you but if the driver fired the fatal headshot where did the shot in the neck just before come from? someone please expliain this cuz i wanna believe but just doesnt make since. Cooper puts a quote from Delamer Duverus in his book that says what happens when you build a mountain on a foundation of lies, the entire mountain will crumble under the weight of one truth, if you dig down deep enough and expose it.
Holy crap...this guy is selling the old "Billy Lovelady = Lee Harvey Oswald in the doorway" theory. That's just sad. Even a "believe every conspiracy theory offered" charlatan like Groden dismisses this one by now.
I realize this is an older clip, but man, the Billy Lovelady evidence is just SAD at this point. Even in 1991, the "Oswald in the doorway" theory had been thoroughly demolished.
I sense that this is pure mockery of the decades of work done by legimate critics and investigators of the Warren Commission. "Tons" of real evidence regarding the reasons for the assassination, eye witness accounts, the Zapruder film, all of which has been known to the world contrary to "US official" story since the 70's...
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Regardless of what endorsements you read, Bill Cooper was a nut and his words in this video prove it. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about and he is wrong in all respects. It's guys like this that give certain government agencies a worse image than they give themselves. I'm glad he's no longer among the living to continue being an anal cavity.
I was only 13 when the assasination happened and the first thing I saw was the face of the head CIA at that time.The name has slipped my mind right now.I also had a predictive dream of 9/11 months before it happened.
The name you're searching for is John McCone, and it's preposterous to imagine that his face was the "first thing" you saw when the assassination happened.
Good job on alerting the authorities about 9/11 beforehand, though. Well done.
nope. maybe he means well, but i don't agree with his hypothesis. i feel it's more likely the fatal shot came from the sewer in the street as seen in 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy'. ultimately i feel the Zapruder film has been altered. frames have been removed to mask just how slow the limousine's speed was reduced almost to a complete stop. also individual frames have been tampered with to keep everyone guessing & argueing. it's a fact that there are 2 splices in the film. supposedly by accident.
The "splices" you are referring to apply only to the original. Zapruder made at least 2 (probably 3) additional copies on 11/22/63 which did NOT have any frames missing.
Please disabuse yourself of the "sewer sniper" theory post-haste. There is no clear shot from the storm drain to JFK's head at the time of the headshot.
"only apply to the original"??? how can you make copies that don't have splices if the original has been "accidentally" spliced. copies come from the original. as for the "sewer sniper theory", it's more plausible than the "shot from the grassy knoll" or "the driver did it" theories. anyways, my contention is this... the zapruder film & the autopsy photos don't make sense. leading me to believe one or both have been altered. as for the film; frames removed & individual frames altered.
"how can you make copies that don't have splices if the original has been "accidentally" spliced."
Because the copies of the original were made in Dallas on 11/22/63. The accidental damage and splice weren't made until Life Magazine got it back to their lab, sometime later. Get it now? Suggestion: read about the entire history of the Zapruder film. It's VERY well documented.
In short: the "missing" frames are easily viewable either online, or through downloads. They don't reveal shit.
suggestion: watch The Great Zapruder Film Hoax on google videos, stop being so eager to defend the official gov't story, realize if there is a conspiracy (which there is) they're not gonna let you in on it, realize Nagasaki, the Trinity test site (1st nuclear detonation), Baghdad, Abu Graib prison, many death rows in the US, the site of Benazir Butto's murder (& her father's execution), site of Pat Tillman's murder - all within 1 degree of the 33rd parallel. or 33 degrees north latitude......
Given the tremendous number of totally unrelated world events in the past century, it's pretty obvious that you can pick ANY parallel and rattle off a dozen or more notorious events within 1 degree of it.
oh yeah? i can think of another. New York City and Madrid, Spain are both within a degree of each other. & the number of days between 9/11 & the Madrid train bombings? 911 days, that's right! Skull & Bones & Bohemian Grove secret societies are real, they practice ridiculous rituals & ceremonies & have associations with people of high political power & even Presidents. i don't care that you can't get ur head around it.
Attention Sheeple: go along with Shutterbun2. it requires less research, you won't have to think for yourself & you can just get your "facts" from the 6 o'clock news on networks owned by the global media conglomerates. hmmm...no conspiracy there. let it go people. don't think to hard. guys like Shutterbun 2 are right
Wow. That's a bold statement; especially when you're talking about someone who has probably done more for the truth than you ever will when it comes to speaking loudly about the US Governments involvement with lies, murder and deceit of the people of the world.
When is the last time you stood outside the White House and voice opinion w/the risk of being arrested?
A stale comment like "I doubt he's dead" leaves me with this to say- WIlliam Cooper's memory is more alive than you are now.
Well he missed 100% on this one which makes me doubt him. Even more so when something like this is easy to solve. The driver hand no gun. It is a trick on the eyes. Why he couldn't figure that out leaves me to question his intent because it is obvious if you just watch a few times. The driver hand no gun, it's the light and shadow on the passengers head that looks like a gun. This conclusion he made makes me questio everything. It is 100% disinformation.
@St4ticblu3: I doubt he was right too, but I'm not going to call him disinfo just yet. In fact Bill said a few things on disinfo, but I have no quotes on hand at the moment.
People can say whatever about Cooper being a nut, but under any circumstances I find it strange that the police would masquerade as rowdy teens in a pickup truck. Why would they do that? Didn't they have balls enough to meet him on his own ground? I mean any time the police have come to my house, they've been dressed as..."the police". Then they wonder why conspiracy theories get started. Same thing with Koresh, They could have got him when he was jogging. Instead they end up killing 88 people.
Yep that's correct, it's just a coincidence that he was shot dead shortly after 9/11.
Just a coincidence that he would have many more millions of listeners from around the globe because of the internet... something that the powers to be wouldn't of worried about 30 odd before because his auidence was limited. Connect the dots in this crazy world and come up with coincidences because that's all they are to some people.
Go to the video titled, Texas School Book Depository Employees - Part 3
At the 2:56 minute mark, you will see & hear James Jarman, Jr... He is the man who assassinated President Kennedy.
The two previous guys shown, Norman & Williams were co-conspirators. Along with Charles Douglas Givens (Not shown)...
Do an "MSN" search with the key words, James Jarman, Jr., Assassin, for the entire story... The 8th site listed, "The John F" is the most comprehensive...
You are correct about the reflection, but that doesn't reject the idea that the driver performed the coup de grace. Watch the part of this clip from 3:02 to 3:15 where playback is slowed enough for one to see the driver holding the wheel with one arm while his free arm reaches back holding something. The weapon is blocked from our view by the head of the gentleman riding shotgun, but the proximity and angle of the attack is represented by the resulting explosion on JFK's forehead.
His hand is either right next to or holding the steering wheel. I don't see it reaching for anything. I think the "arm movement" you're seeing is just another reflection alongside the top of the driver's side door.
No mainstream news will ever do an expose like this nowadays....it's all scripted and a journalist will never risk their career to cover topics like this....not if they want to stay employed in this day where car dealerships are going under left and right
"i think "the driver did it" has been disproven, though"
I'm not too big on that theory either but I have to admit, that cooper's the 1st guy I know of that's attempted to offer an explanation for why Jackie tried to get out of the car instead of just ducking down. He might be full of B/S but like I said, no one else has touched that subject and I've always wondered about that.
I saw a lot clearer vid the other day. The thing that looks like a gun is actually the sun on top of the passengers head. His face is shaded by the visor and top of the windshield. As the driver looks behind him, the passenger leans back and it does look the driver turned around with a gun. But in the clearer vid you can easily see it's the top of the guys head and that the drivers hands are both on the wheel. Had "me" goin 4 a second.....LOL
its sad that cooper was already murder.... a true american... unlike alex jones.....
for those of u who say "fake" or bullshit.. i would like to u see guys be brave as this sir... he serve our forces he found out the truth... .and now tried to explain us this..... AND WAYYYYYYYY more....
In October 1964, the U.S. Government Printing Office released 26 volumes of testimony and evidence compiled by the Warren Commission. Volume 18 of the commission's hearings reproduced 158 frames of the Zapruder film in black and white. However, frames 208211 were missing, a splice was visible in frames 207 and 212, frames 314 and 315 were switched, and frame 284 was a repeat of 283.
This is so clear of the driver shooting the president, Now in 2009 they show this film, (the Magruder film?) and it does not show the same thing. Instead they re made an altered film.
Audio is bad thou going loud then lower ...cant really get what there saying....cause yurr trying to control the volume at the same time and jakie was too too close to that shot that was impossible for the driver!!!.
I'm a crippled old man and I could make that shot. Jesus how stupid are people? I always wondered why Jackie tried to jump out of the car instead of grabbing her husband and pulling him to the floor to save him and her. It is obvious now that she saw the shotI and was afraid she would be next. She had to get out of the car. I was 8 years old when that happened and I watched live on TV. My Mother cried for three days. She loved Kennedy.
@SuperNewf1: Kennedy certainly was one of the best presidents we Americans ever had, IMO{other than our founding fathers, of course}.
Nobody had quite reached his level{although some did come close; Garfield and Lincoln are the two I can think of now} , and nobody has really come close since then{Carter could've, though}.
Cooper had seen DOCUMENTS saying the driver did it.. and has produced an enormous amount of evidence! Let me guess you saw documents that said it was the sun, & there was no gun, and had privilage to them cuz ur cia? And jackie was jumping out to fetch a piece of her husbands brain? Oh and ur not a slave to the central bank, and 911 wasn't a set up? Yep, ur dumb
You can see close up video on youtube showing the driver with empty hands , JFK getting shot FIRST , then the driver turned around & the driver was a tenth grade educated guy w/ no military background .
Besides com on , shoot him in front of several witnesses , snipers were heard by several witnesses behind grassy knoll and the train station operator saw several men behind fence , from same side , he was killed several weeks later , in an "accident " .
I will take Mr. Cooper's as the most cretible info i have heardon Kennedy.However Mr.Cooper has came to his conclusions they were extremely well researched.You think the guy was willing to give up his life to dupe us into another crazy kennedy conspiracy.R.I.P. Mr.Cooper.
Wows... news on TV was so different then. Now the interviewer would be calling him a nut and a wacko to his face (eg, FOX)
Don't see the driver shooting but I know the whole thing was a huge cover up of something they didn't want anyone to know... (CIA head Dulles on the Warren Commission?).
I thought the 30 part playlist "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" was pretty good
mr cooper was completely wrong here. the driver didn't have a gun.
that was the glare of the sun off of the other guys head sitting next to him as he turned around. he should have done better research along with others.
he is not wrong, the shot definitely took place in the car, the if you look closely the gun is close to the GEAR or stick not around the gray hair but at the gear.
yeah you're a fucking retard. show me where there's a gun with the dirver? please. you seen the close ups of this. watch the other videos closer up. no gun.
for all we know the dirver could have been jacking his dick back there too.
sir, could you please explain why jackie kennedy reacts to the driver shooting her husband in the head by attempting to get out of the car backwards or was she reacting to strong sunlight as you suggest? I've not seen many people jump out of cars in reaction to strong sunlight.
Then you tell me the driver shot him. NO GUN. Only the illution of having one from a distance. It was the suns glare off of the guys hair and forehead sitting next to the driver.
The normal reaction to her husband getting shot would be to grab him and drag him to the floor of the car along with herself. That would protect them from any outside shots. The car is armor plated is it ot? She knew that did she not? Do you not think they are trained to get on the floor in case of attack? Hmmmm!????
your just mad because your theory is bullshit. you're saying mrs kennedy was reacting to the driver. WRONG she was reacting to her husband being shot in the head. the driver had no gun. watch the other videos closer up and you'll see that.
I don't think LHO shot Kennedy but this theory is incorrect and that's been proven.
The so called gun that is shown on the video is just light reflection.
From the video there is no indication that the driver Shot JFK, especially considering the shot appears to come from a different Angle.
Therefor I am inclined to believe William Cooper was lying about this incident, which also makes me question his other statements and publications.
His statement that it was a gas powered shellfish gun that killed him also seems unlikely at best.
Danebrogen 2 years ago
i dont buy that it was a light reflection. i can clearly make out the arm reaching over his right shoulder.
as for your shellfish gun statement, thats not what he said. dont simplify things to make people seem dumb.
If cooper ever lied about anything it was purely unintentional. he got all of his material and ideas from actual government documents, so if anyone is lying about anything it is not the researcher but the govt. cooper might not have all the answers, but hes was a damn good man
AndyJackson1776 2 years ago
Look at the related video called Did the driver shoot JFK? (revised). Then you look at the this video once more.
It's evident that the white "gun" is just reflection. The so called arm, is also reflection.
Danebrogen 2 years ago
How did bullets end up in the sidewalk then ?
trollfinger 1 year ago
How is that relevant? Cooper claims he used an exploding pellet.
Danebrogen 1 year ago
people ARE REALLY STUPID, mostly because the government wants you that way, ALL OF THE JFK FILMS ARE EDITED, EXCEPT THIS ONE... IT LOOKS CLEAR TO ME THAT HE WAS SHOT FROM THE FRONT AND NOT THE BACK WHEN HE WAS KILLED, AND IN 911 IF YOU THINK THE ONLY 3 SKY SCAPPERS TO EVER FALL IN MANKIND CAUSED BY FIRE, AND 1 WASNT EVEN HIT BY A PLANE,YOU HAVE TO BE RETARTED.......... THOUSANDS OF INOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED THAT DAY, AND BUSH GOT THE BEST OF IT, BY CASHING IN,, AND MAKING UP SOME FAKE WAR......
godonio84 2 years ago 3
i agree with almost everything...bush only cashed in on 9/11 because he was the puppet that sold it to the american ppl.
dont use all caps. it makes all of us look like rambling fanatics.
AndyJackson1776 2 years ago
rip Bill Cooper, a true American patriot!
sergiolcjr 2 years ago 4
Might I ask how did William die and did they find the person who killed him.
putawayfoolishgames 2 years ago
He died in a police shootout on his porch they were police agents so yea. crazy interview by his friend here on Bill Cooper's death
/watch?v=nSv5xii8uuE&feature=related
OneCourageous 2 years ago
Thank you for filling me in. How convenient to have him killed. Perhaps now there are way 2 many of us who are waiting for answers. I wonder how they plan in taking us out.
putawayfoolishgames 2 years ago
At least they keep his death alive by giving their own view point. Not much can be said about your generation who never saw the NWO coming and maybe you still dont. Had your generation blow the whisle then maybe we would not be in this mess today.
putawayfoolishgames 2 years ago
bill cooper is a great human being
theshah91 2 years ago
he's right!.....thanks fior the vid!
planthi80 2 years ago
My God! He put it all on the table and they killed him !
1martuska 2 years ago
For you that know the shine in the film was not a firearm but the passengers head. You ask why does it reflex the sun?
The reason was BRYLCEEM. We all used this white crap in our hair in that year. Below is the jingle that was on TV and radio. Look it up fellow detectives!
Bryl-creem, a little dab'll do ya,
Use more, only if you dare,
But watch out,
The gals will all pursue ya,--
They'll love to put their fingers through your hair.
itisaduck 2 years ago
I give up! You have real dragons to slay and you focus on BS because it doesn't take real work. Just Armchair fun! "Those that will not believe the truth tend to believe anything." Cooper is now in Hell regretting his sins and Jones laughs at you all the way to the bank. Quit smoking your lunch and look into the lies these guys manufacture and then do real protest, support good candidates and raise real hell until we can get this mess back to what the founding fathers desired.
itisaduck 2 years ago
I am on your side, but, there are real threats to be dealt with, without this fantasy speculation. You're being led around by the nose for $ by rotten SOB;s like Cooper and Jones. All I have is time, money and a DOD access card to all the US bases and I investigate Jones material and I find it to be half truthes twisted into lies. I have been wounded 6X. Have been an enemy of the state. President slandered me publicly. I am listed as dangerous by the leftist SPLC. Tried to follow Jones but lies.
itisaduck 2 years ago
What is wrong with you children? You are faced with death of your economy. Death of your freedom. Your generation will be the first to have less money and will die earlier and you focus on a closed case. I was present when US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy. If you just look at multiple videos you will see that the driver did not shoot Kennedy and the so called magic shot was indeed duplicated later. Same path. Same markings. This case was reexamined over and over. Same results!
itisaduck 2 years ago
The Fact that Bill Cooper announced on his radio show THREE MONTHS before 9/11 that "Something Big was going to happen and it wouldnt be a "Bin Laden" that would be behind it "..... SAYS IT ALL
AND the fact he was killed a month after 9/11? GEE ! ...what a coincidence!! William Cooper was a career Naval INTELLIGENCE officer 25yrs HE was no "Nutcase"
Altho..on second thoughts...he was! He had INTEGRITY and knew he would be crusified &discredited etc but told the TRUTH ANYWAY CRAZY GUY ...eh?
ZEITGEISTism 2 years ago 5
search "the speech that got kennedy killed" here on youtube
reverenddarthbeavis 2 years ago
What's with that sound quality?
AresCassell 2 years ago
That silver you see is actually the sun glint off the radioman's head and Cooper was shot dead after shooting a deputy sheriff twice in the head. Sure jackie would ride in the car with the murderer. and he would drive her to the hospital and hang around while Jackie went into the hospital and rats him. lol!
itisaduck 2 years ago
Cooper was shot because he was dangerous to the powers that be.
whitenightf3 2 years ago
whitenight3, If that works for you but my experience is generally they arrest you on real or trumped up charge and it goes to court or charges are dropped. I believe Cooper did not have a full deck. It is obvious as he came up with some real woppers like the one here and his UFO blather. He and Alex Jones are very similiar. He had a hand gun which is legal but touching it in the holster or drawing is a crime. He shot a deputy in the head. No getting around that. At that point you are done! Bang
itisaduck 2 years ago
itisaduck
bullshit ! cooper DID NOT shot any deputy in the head !!!
WHAT A LIAR you are
ZEITGEISTism 2 years ago
Zeitgeist, Chill Out! Cooper shot Robert Marinez in the head before he was shot to death by Apache County AZ deputies. I was a AZ activist protester, been shot at, poisoned, almost framed for Domestic Terrorism, had to deal with the same as Cooper I investigate these kinds of events. It is calling taking the authorities temperature. The thing is Cops are people too. They get scared and over react. In Coopers case it was dark, he may have fired first. He had a big mouth. He resisted. KIA
itisaduck 2 years ago
I accept that Kennedy was killed in a coup.
But I find this hard to swallow. I mean the guy talks about spending $27K to mail copies of the tape and evidence's when it could be done so much cheaper. I could better accept that she did not see it happen. The sound of a high power rifle fireing at 50 yds may be louder that a gas pistol at point blank. But he right about the brain. I would rather first investigate 9/11 and after we get them basturds work back to JFK. It deserves our attention First
MrWhatthehell911 2 years ago
You are right, it is not a gun. However if you listen to the video, Bill Cooper explains that it was a weapon created for this hit...it fired a shell fish toxin into his brain. Try actually backing up what you say with any fact other than your totally useless word.
LTG22 2 years ago
Why would Oswald kill a police officer?
Doesn't make sense and leave his work place?
And need a better pic of him in front of building.
There is also glare in the film from other persons head, while he draws fire.
Interesting.
Clearhaven 2 years ago
so isnt william cooper dead now?
Apoic123 2 years ago
That smudge is supposed to be Lee Harvey Oswald???
Looks more like Mickey Mouse! LOL
Purushadaas 2 years ago
Who are you going to belive someoneelse or your own eyes? its right there easy to see, wake up sheeple
MrLOKUST 2 years ago 4
My own eye tells me its not a gun....the driver's left hand is still on the wheel...what appears to be a gun is actually the head of the passenger next to him...instead of focusing on the driver, focus on the passenger and it's crystal clear that what looked like a gun is actually the passenger's greasy head reflected from the sunlight... Agree?
bayskee 2 years ago
bill cooper said he was shot he did not say it was a gun he said by a device watch the video again but common sense u don't get hit all those angles like JFK did by a man from incredible distance who's in one angle.11 days before JFK Gave a speech about destroying secret societies who threaten the world with there power that speech cost him his life so killing his brother robert was a fluke u think JFK JR had a buzz of running for office u saw what happend to him
TMGPREZ 2 years ago
jackie o's bodygaurd puts her back in the car when she tries to leave while shots go off ain't his job to do the opposite JFK JR said his mom never wanted him to be a politician notice he started that magazine about politics after she died teddy was loved but was not Don / Material he was the Fredo of the kennedys compared to John and Bob thats why he lived to be old had no chance to be In Power like his brothers but JR did kennedy JR had to go he had his dad and uncles politics
TMGPREZ 2 years ago
The gun he's talking about,couldn't generate that kind of kinetic energy!If it could, it would of blowen the gun out of his hand....That is the law of physics!If you don't beleve me watch mythbusters!And you can see for your self.
BENJAMINAFLECK 2 years ago
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This guy is so full of crap it's no funny!L.H.O is the lone gun man,that it end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BENJAMINAFLECK 2 years ago
I need to watch everything this guy did. Amazing info.
faulconandsnowjob 2 years ago
yea i see the gun! but wat can any body do??
tepperway 2 years ago
uh u blind drguffey?.....need glasses? his left arm clearly raises over his right shoulder...Now this video the pistol is not clear but i have seen better quality showing the pistol...Stop living a lie be real with yourself...Bill Cooper, may he rest in peace,had the balls that few people today have...he stood up to the federal gov. with just cause and was murdered...He predicted 911 months before the attacks and his own death so stop fucking around douche
kormoski420 2 years ago
In this video I clearly see something else than the shiny forehead of the passenger...and it would make sense to order the driver to kill JFK. Besides..evidence or not, Communists and other thugs know that reality can be "created" or altered. And that happened in the aftermath of JFK's assassination..
manoman0 2 years ago
@manoman0
it is not a gun really, see the debunks on that, it is NOT a gun
this is BS.
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
ok, let's say it's NOT a gun, ok? Doesn't it make sense to you to give the Driver the order to kill (in casu) JFK? I did see another vid, and there is no gun visible, but this vid...damn, so confusing.duh...
manoman0 2 years ago
i know, it's amazing, i fell for it 2, at first.
then u see the other video....
it would be too much if the driver did shoot him, too noisy, the other ppl in the car would've realized it, not to mention the crowd...
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
They did, and they were all mysteriously "killed" or died shortly after the assassination that day in Dallas, all within 2 years of being silenced.
William Greer, the driver, fired the fatal shot that blew off a fragment of JFK's head. Jackie knew that the driver had fired the shot, and she tried escaping the motorcade, but was urged to stay inside by the CIA guards outside the vehicle.
Watch the video, my words do not lie.
n0b0dy508 2 years ago
@n0b0dy508
like i said it's not a gun, some videos on the "related videos" list prove it.
it's the sun glare
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
@n0b0dy508
watch this, pls:
/watch?v=DguBcLpWBS0&feature=related
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
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What LUNACY. There's no gun in the drivers hand ! Watch "See the Driver, Yup no gun!" Here on you tube. Greers left hand is just inches from the steering wheel!
drguffey 2 years ago
That's because that film is doctored just like most every other film. I can clearly see the gun in this film.
happystab 2 years ago
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Clearly see the gun ??? Where is it ? A frame by frame study of the Z-film shows Greers left hand inches from the steering wheel at the time JFK is shot.
drguffey 2 years ago
I guess I don't know where you're getting that from. From this film, I can clearly see Grier's whole left arm come around with the pistol in his hand. It may look different in other films, but we know that so many versions have been doctored to make it appear different.
happystab 2 years ago 4
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Look closely! Greers left arm DOES NOT come around. His left hand is inches from the steering wheel. You can check the Z-film frame by frame on line.
drguffey 2 years ago
what appears to be his hand is the top of the siding of the car, take a look, its proof. If you dont see it its becasue your refusing to see it,
MrLOKUST 2 years ago
At 0:47 The woman speaker is assasinated too, because she said that CIA is involved the assasination :D
kingofskateop 2 years ago
Well, they finally killed bill following 9/11/01. Everything he ever warned us about and told us is VERIFIED. RIP WIlliam Cooper. Their biggest mistake was killing you.
ducky923 2 years ago 9
u can see clear move ment in the video the more u look at it the more u can see its 2009 we have state of the art TEC we can use it to ehance and see extactly wats in his hand i hope they do it cause i can see it ......the shadow........
RVsleep 2 years ago
so the driver shoot's kennedy and no one in the car see's him? this loon was in naval intelligence? Alex jones, george norry, art bell, micheal savage and rush limbaugh. Stop listening to these guys!, they are nuts and they love to make up stories and bend the truth and scare you just to make a profit.
barmtrail 2 years ago
Its not the driver its a reflection off his hair from the sun.
But still a conspiracy no doubt!
Check out executive order 11110.
WoOdMoRe2208 2 years ago
Verified Bill. RIP.
CultOfBananas 2 years ago
OMG I CAN SEE THE GUN
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 2 years ago
@Pmtmr: Of course I don't really count either. You do have to have some sort of regocnition somewhere.
btw, I noticed you promote the 'Rock is Satanic theory, and James Wickstrom.
Do you not know about these things:
1. James Wickstrom shills for the white supremacists, and that he is connected to another highly suspicious person, William Potter Gale{who links with the John Birch Society, etc.}?
2. 'Rock and Satanism' connections were made up to discredit rock music?
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
@pmtmr: Well, pretty much everybody knows that the Rothschilds are Jewish{but who are the Rathskellers?}.
Yes, I've heard of a few people who went into the Jewish side of things and were murdered{Jack Bernstein, Arthur Koestler, and a few others}, but they seem to be quite the minority.
"Not everyone who exposes the elites dies" Maybe not, but did you really read my statement? I practically said most who do a lot of damage get killed off.
"I'm still alive" You don't count, sorry.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
@Pmtmr: But then again, how come so many people who have gone on and on about 'It's the Joooooooz' have gone on to live long lives{John Beaty, Eustace Mullins, Anthony Hmura, Archibald Ramsay, etc.}. Wouldn't that strike you as suspicious, given the fact that virtually all of the people who tangle with the elites meet early deaths? Think about that.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
Funny how people like Mae Brussell and Bill Cooper always seem to die early, or at least suspicious deaths{Brussell did live to be 66, but it appears that fast acting cancer may have killed her off}. You know, people who don't shill for white supremacy or call rock music 'satanic'
Also funny how so many 'satanic' musicians have actually died highly suspicious deaths over the years. Coincidence? I don't think so, ladies and gentlemen.......................
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
he was shot by the "police" - thats how its proves he was murdered by the jesuits & catholic church or the freemasons or some other illuminati
MBKDragonfly 2 years ago
i have to question this video on the grounds that it appears to be a local news telecast. what mainstream media outlet would have such a controversial interview and open the show with it? now, if this is cable access, perhaps (perhaps) it may make it more conceivable.
revlooshin 2 years ago
wtf with the audio cuttin in and out?
shanehoustein 2 years ago
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Ephesians 6:12...For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
sharons813 2 years ago
I am so inspired by this video. Bill Cooper is a modern day hero. A martyr, a man who believed in something and died for it. My hat goes off to him.
G0DF1RST 2 years ago 10
I have come to a conclusion that there are
people in our government and those not
in our government who call the shots in
this game called life. They have killed our
heroes again and again and again. The
people who actually have the audacity to
state that President Kennedy's death was
not a conspiracy has to be a total, complete idiot.
atticia 2 years ago 5
the audio...what the heck
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
JFK was the best President in modern times
every President since has bin a zionist puppet, except Jimmy Carter, who was only half controlled
Andrew Jackson was the least controlled, and should be revered for his courage and strength against the zionist banksters, who thrive on wars and atrocities against humanity
brianconcannon44 2 years ago
so you think Eisenhower was just a lovely president?
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
the only lovely Presidents, in my books were Andrew Jackson and JFK
why was Eisenhower lovely ?
brianconcannon44 2 years ago
you misunderstood my point, for some reason
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
Yes Jackson was our best ever. A man, he had balls and lived by a mans code.
hubiethesaint 2 years ago
@Brianconcannon44: Unfortunately, Jackson also played a large role in the uprooting of Native Americans, not to mention his bigtime support of slavery.
In fact, fighting the National Bank was probably the only good thing that guy ever did in officle really. And since our school history books actually tend to protray Jackson in a positive light, you have to wonder if he was really against these elites, or if he was on their side all along.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
@Brianconcannon44: Also, the Zionist power structure didn't exist until 1897 at the very earliest{the year when Theodor Herzl set up the 1st Zionist Congress in Basel}.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
watch?v=q5rqf7pf-6w
jelinto 2 years ago
All numerology, step on a crack coincidentals aside, you don't have to be all that smart to know that JFK was assassinated by the CIA/FBI, or that the same is cramming cocaine down our throats while using the War Against Drugs to stuff a WAD in their pants. And, should you run out of cash to buy, it's off to private, for profit prison fool, another taxpayer punch in the mouth. Uhh, lessee, how much did Cheney have invested in the prison system, about $100 million I think. Just for starters...
cusanusnicolas 2 years ago 2
I'm sorry, how did Dick Cheney's prison graft system cause Oswald to shoot at Kennedy? Surely you can fill in those minor details.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
I never said anything like that. You're flappin' your jaws a lot here, but nobody's doing much listening and you're not doin much thinking.
cusanusnicolas 2 years ago
You invoke Dick Cheney, the War on Drugs, the private-enterprise prison system into this debate, but *I'M* the one flapping his jaws?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
oh Shutterdumb, would you get out of "the driver shot JFK" video pages. this is kids stuff. & answer my question dammit!!!
jelinto 2 years ago
Yeah, but this is where the action is, let's face it. Greer shooting JFK has become the "conspiracy theory du jour," so it's the best place to find victims.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
...if you believe every aspect of the "official story", get all your information from corrupt "mainstream media" & can't think for yourself, then don't expect to ever find the truth.
furthermore, this forum where you have 500 letters or less to make your point is ludicrous. it allows dumb, dismissive morons like Shutterbun2 to smother any attempt to find truth & justice.
jelinto 2 years ago
"dismissive morons like Shutterbun2 to smother any attempt to find truth & justice."
OK, so now you're getting personal. I daresay I've expended TEN TIMES as much effort as yourself at finding "the truth" of the assassination. You and I are about the same age. I've been at this since 1986, how about you? I've got 40+ books on the assassination in my living room right now, all of which I've read & studied.
On what basis do you conclude I'm attempting to "smother" my opposition?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
500 characters is more than enough space to tear a Canuck a new asshole adjacent to where his brain currently resides.
You wanna brush up on insults and name-calling, this is hardly the premier forum. You want to be embarassed by your lack of knowledge about the case at hand: this is the place.
Tell me one thing you believe about evidence of a conspiracy, and I'll be more than happy to destroy it in front of all these nice people here.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
....astrology. yeah it's ridiculous, but true. i personally have no interest in astrology, ritual, ceremony, secret societies or organized religion for that matter. but that doesn't change the facts. so Shutterbun2 (man i can't u seriously with a name like that, your Gene Wilder picture in ur profile & ur naive gullability & inability to sift through information think for yourself) bugger off & realize ur an idiot.
jelinto 2 years ago
How does ANY of what you just said relate to Oswald shooting JFK?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Shutterbun2 (yeah that's the name he uses; apparently shutterbun1 was taken) can't get his mind around it. yet Skull & Bones & Bohemian Grove secret societies are real, they practice ridiculous rituals & ceremonies & have associations with people of high political power & even Presidents. hell, it was even revealed that Pres. Reagan's decisions were influenced by his wife's interest in
jelinto 2 years ago 2
jfk murdered 11th month, 22nd day, 33rd parallel (33 degrees north latitude) at 12:30pm. easy as 1,2...3.
jelinto 2 years ago
...JFK murdered 11th month, 22nd day, 33rd parallel (33 degrees north) google images "freemason 33 ring". Dealey Plaza seen from above forms a triangle or pyramid. it was a masonic, ritualistic killing. final suggestion: stop being a naive twit and pissing me off with your stupid replies to my posts. dumbass!!!
jelinto 2 years ago 2
Whats with the weird ass audio?
aBassist111 2 years ago
of course the cia killed jfk. the gun the cia said oswald used was an old gun which was not accurate enough to hit the head from the distance oswald was apparently shooting from. to do that kind of assassination u need extremely professional shooters back in 1960's. cia have all the resources to manipulate the public thinking through media control, bribery, etc.
stealthpakfa 2 years ago
While disregarding your VERY obvious misunderstanding of the CIA's charter, I'll suggest that you view some videos here on YouTube of a Mannlicher Carcano in action.
watch?v=uy_T7D2-Y3o&fmt=18
This is a Carcano being fired at 650 yards (about EIGHT times as far as Oswald's shots) The results speak for themselves.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
martyr - not enough people have listened or heard this
mooners40 2 years ago
I don't know if he made this story up himself or if he was given disinformation, but i'm sorry to correct late mr. Cooper on this (i don't want to tread on the dead).
It's not a gun in the hand of the driver, it's the sunlight on the head of the guy on the passenger seat.
It's still a conspiracy. Just one without the driver being part of it, as claimed to be proven by a misinterpretation of this film.
CCLJunky 2 years ago
its possible he drew his gun in a panic as a bodygaurd for the presidents protection...
Even gas powered guns have a small kick and a squirt of gas comes out... If it was a gun as it looks, it doesnot appear to fire (no kick)
jayson1978 2 years ago
ok thanks cooper im with it i wanna believe you but if the driver fired the fatal headshot where did the shot in the neck just before come from? someone please expliain this cuz i wanna believe but just doesnt make since. Cooper puts a quote from Delamer Duverus in his book that says what happens when you build a mountain on a foundation of lies, the entire mountain will crumble under the weight of one truth, if you dig down deep enough and expose it.
ItsDaTruFeBooBoo 2 years ago
CIA did it and Oswald was a patsy? Just as I suspected for decades.
sylvesterkatt4eterni 2 years ago
Holy crap...this guy is selling the old "Billy Lovelady = Lee Harvey Oswald in the doorway" theory. That's just sad. Even a "believe every conspiracy theory offered" charlatan like Groden dismisses this one by now.
I realize this is an older clip, but man, the Billy Lovelady evidence is just SAD at this point. Even in 1991, the "Oswald in the doorway" theory had been thoroughly demolished.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Quick question: was the audio for this clip recorded in a racquetball court?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago 2
I sense that this is pure mockery of the decades of work done by legimate critics and investigators of the Warren Commission. "Tons" of real evidence regarding the reasons for the assassination, eye witness accounts, the Zapruder film, all of which has been known to the world contrary to "US official" story since the 70's...
shuleba 2 years ago
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Regardless of what endorsements you read, Bill Cooper was a nut and his words in this video prove it. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about and he is wrong in all respects. It's guys like this that give certain government agencies a worse image than they give themselves. I'm glad he's no longer among the living to continue being an anal cavity.
SkepticalEd 2 years ago
I was only 13 when the assasination happened and the first thing I saw was the face of the head CIA at that time.The name has slipped my mind right now.I also had a predictive dream of 9/11 months before it happened.
DivineLight58 2 years ago
The name you're searching for is John McCone, and it's preposterous to imagine that his face was the "first thing" you saw when the assassination happened.
Good job on alerting the authorities about 9/11 beforehand, though. Well done.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
The gun is an air pistol that shoots an explosive pellet containing shell fish toxin.
It's for spies and stuff...
WEREFEAT 2 years ago 2
nope. maybe he means well, but i don't agree with his hypothesis. i feel it's more likely the fatal shot came from the sewer in the street as seen in 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy'. ultimately i feel the Zapruder film has been altered. frames have been removed to mask just how slow the limousine's speed was reduced almost to a complete stop. also individual frames have been tampered with to keep everyone guessing & argueing. it's a fact that there are 2 splices in the film. supposedly by accident.
jelinto 2 years ago
The "splices" you are referring to apply only to the original. Zapruder made at least 2 (probably 3) additional copies on 11/22/63 which did NOT have any frames missing.
Please disabuse yourself of the "sewer sniper" theory post-haste. There is no clear shot from the storm drain to JFK's head at the time of the headshot.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
"only apply to the original"??? how can you make copies that don't have splices if the original has been "accidentally" spliced. copies come from the original. as for the "sewer sniper theory", it's more plausible than the "shot from the grassy knoll" or "the driver did it" theories. anyways, my contention is this... the zapruder film & the autopsy photos don't make sense. leading me to believe one or both have been altered. as for the film; frames removed & individual frames altered.
jelinto 2 years ago
"how can you make copies that don't have splices if the original has been "accidentally" spliced."
Because the copies of the original were made in Dallas on 11/22/63. The accidental damage and splice weren't made until Life Magazine got it back to their lab, sometime later. Get it now? Suggestion: read about the entire history of the Zapruder film. It's VERY well documented.
In short: the "missing" frames are easily viewable either online, or through downloads. They don't reveal shit.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
suggestion: watch The Great Zapruder Film Hoax on google videos, stop being so eager to defend the official gov't story, realize if there is a conspiracy (which there is) they're not gonna let you in on it, realize Nagasaki, the Trinity test site (1st nuclear detonation), Baghdad, Abu Graib prison, many death rows in the US, the site of Benazir Butto's murder (& her father's execution), site of Pat Tillman's murder - all within 1 degree of the 33rd parallel. or 33 degrees north latitude......
jelinto 2 years ago
Given the tremendous number of totally unrelated world events in the past century, it's pretty obvious that you can pick ANY parallel and rattle off a dozen or more notorious events within 1 degree of it.
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
oh yeah? i can think of another. New York City and Madrid, Spain are both within a degree of each other. & the number of days between 9/11 & the Madrid train bombings? 911 days, that's right! Skull & Bones & Bohemian Grove secret societies are real, they practice ridiculous rituals & ceremonies & have associations with people of high political power & even Presidents. i don't care that you can't get ur head around it.
jelinto 2 years ago
Attention conspiracy theorists: these are the kind of people you now have amongst your ranks. How's it feel?
ShutterBun2 2 years ago
Attention Sheeple: go along with Shutterbun2. it requires less research, you won't have to think for yourself & you can just get your "facts" from the 6 o'clock news on networks owned by the global media conglomerates. hmmm...no conspiracy there. let it go people. don't think to hard. guys like Shutterbun 2 are right
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WoOdMoRe2208 2 years ago
umm...i don't see a gun being fired over the driver's right shoulder.
pocketbanana 2 years ago
electric air pistol
46thstboy 2 years ago
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Bill Cooper is a drone and I seriously doubt he is dead.
st4ticblu3 2 years ago
Wow. That's a bold statement; especially when you're talking about someone who has probably done more for the truth than you ever will when it comes to speaking loudly about the US Governments involvement with lies, murder and deceit of the people of the world.
When is the last time you stood outside the White House and voice opinion w/the risk of being arrested?
A stale comment like "I doubt he's dead" leaves me with this to say- WIlliam Cooper's memory is more alive than you are now.
kansasisaband 2 years ago 3
Well he missed 100% on this one which makes me doubt him. Even more so when something like this is easy to solve. The driver hand no gun. It is a trick on the eyes. Why he couldn't figure that out leaves me to question his intent because it is obvious if you just watch a few times. The driver hand no gun, it's the light and shadow on the passengers head that looks like a gun. This conclusion he made makes me questio everything. It is 100% disinformation.
st4ticblu3 2 years ago
@St4ticblu3: I doubt he was right too, but I'm not going to call him disinfo just yet. In fact Bill said a few things on disinfo, but I have no quotes on hand at the moment.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
wheres your proof ?
M374EVL 2 years ago
audio problem
ianwhy12345 2 years ago
Yes, Bill Cooper must have been silenced for the world-shaking information he had. That's why "they" waited thirty-seven years to shut him up ;)
jeffw1267 2 years ago
People can say whatever about Cooper being a nut, but under any circumstances I find it strange that the police would masquerade as rowdy teens in a pickup truck. Why would they do that? Didn't they have balls enough to meet him on his own ground? I mean any time the police have come to my house, they've been dressed as..."the police". Then they wonder why conspiracy theories get started. Same thing with Koresh, They could have got him when he was jogging. Instead they end up killing 88 people.
ZodiacTeacher 2 years ago 2
Yep that's correct, it's just a coincidence that he was shot dead shortly after 9/11.
Just a coincidence that he would have many more millions of listeners from around the globe because of the internet... something that the powers to be wouldn't of worried about 30 odd before because his auidence was limited. Connect the dots in this crazy world and come up with coincidences because that's all they are to some people.
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freedomhill68 2 years ago
EVERYONE absolutely MUST watch this short video
/watch?v=1BPyhsW_CNI&feature=r elated
What Cooper is claiming to be the gun is just a reflection off the head of the agent in the passenger seat
HughJass33 2 years ago
You are correct about the reflection, but that doesn't reject the idea that the driver performed the coup de grace. Watch the part of this clip from 3:02 to 3:15 where playback is slowed enough for one to see the driver holding the wheel with one arm while his free arm reaches back holding something. The weapon is blocked from our view by the head of the gentleman riding shotgun, but the proximity and angle of the attack is represented by the resulting explosion on JFK's forehead.
pkscolax 2 years ago
His hand is either right next to or holding the steering wheel. I don't see it reaching for anything. I think the "arm movement" you're seeing is just another reflection alongside the top of the driver's side door.
HughJass33 2 years ago
Wakeup mate! These video`s are ones that the Establishment have altered for their own benefit. Most people will never see the true films.
mimstar71 2 years ago 3
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HughJass33 2 years ago
yet another clip of the brilliance of william cooper
this man was a true truth seeker
unlike alex jones who works for the very people he is supposed to be unearthing
tunnatwo 2 years ago
it seems jones is just given authorization to release information by those he exposes. unearth. that's a strange word come to think of it
kroovyandcal 2 years ago
the best clue is when he asked the then governor george bush a question about the world bank and was arrested, biggest set up ever
tunnatwo 2 years ago
No mainstream news will ever do an expose like this nowadays....it's all scripted and a journalist will never risk their career to cover topics like this....not if they want to stay employed in this day where car dealerships are going under left and right
chelle099 2 years ago 2
looks like just another secret the government wanted to cover up good thing this guy came fowerd with this information
Icothean22 2 years ago
i think "the driver did it" has been disproven, though.
kroovyandcal 2 years ago
"i think "the driver did it" has been disproven, though"
I'm not too big on that theory either but I have to admit, that cooper's the 1st guy I know of that's attempted to offer an explanation for why Jackie tried to get out of the car instead of just ducking down. He might be full of B/S but like I said, no one else has touched that subject and I've always wondered about that.
ZodiacTeacher 2 years ago
She was trying to retrieve a large piece of her husbants skull from the boot of the car
mimstar71 2 years ago
"i think "the driver did it" has been disproven"
I saw a lot clearer vid the other day. The thing that looks like a gun is actually the sun on top of the passengers head. His face is shaded by the visor and top of the windshield. As the driver looks behind him, the passenger leans back and it does look the driver turned around with a gun. But in the clearer vid you can easily see it's the top of the guys head and that the drivers hands are both on the wheel. Had "me" goin 4 a second.....LOL
ZodiacTeacher 2 years ago
if bill is right about his claims then those videos would have likely been altered
lwanatt 2 years ago
its sad that cooper was already murder.... a true american... unlike alex jones.....
for those of u who say "fake" or bullshit.. i would like to u see guys be brave as this sir... he serve our forces he found out the truth... .and now tried to explain us this..... AND WAYYYYYYYY more....
baalyezidi 2 years ago 2
Wikipedia:
In October 1964, the U.S. Government Printing Office released 26 volumes of testimony and evidence compiled by the Warren Commission. Volume 18 of the commission's hearings reproduced 158 frames of the Zapruder film in black and white. However, frames 208211 were missing, a splice was visible in frames 207 and 212, frames 314 and 315 were switched, and frame 284 was a repeat of 283.
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Who tried to edit it and Why?
EndTimeStimulator 2 years ago 2
This is so clear of the driver shooting the president, Now in 2009 they show this film, (the Magruder film?) and it does not show the same thing. Instead they re made an altered film.
adnetjm 2 years ago
C.R.A.P
Tonyo1221 2 years ago
Audio is bad thou going loud then lower ...cant really get what there saying....cause yurr trying to control the volume at the same time and jakie was too too close to that shot that was impossible for the driver!!!.
Jayzc66 2 years ago
Jayzc66 - I'm a former military sharpshooter - and that shot was NOT impossible by the driver
hisbeatnik 2 years ago
I'm a crippled old man and I could make that shot. Jesus how stupid are people? I always wondered why Jackie tried to jump out of the car instead of grabbing her husband and pulling him to the floor to save him and her. It is obvious now that she saw the shotI and was afraid she would be next. She had to get out of the car. I was 8 years old when that happened and I watched live on TV. My Mother cried for three days. She loved Kennedy.
SuperNewf1 2 years ago 4
@SuperNewf1: Kennedy certainly was one of the best presidents we Americans ever had, IMO{other than our founding fathers, of course}.
Nobody had quite reached his level{although some did come close; Garfield and Lincoln are the two I can think of now} , and nobody has really come close since then{Carter could've, though}.
SixtiesFan90 2 years ago
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DrPeterBeter 2 years ago
Cooper had seen DOCUMENTS saying the driver did it.. and has produced an enormous amount of evidence! Let me guess you saw documents that said it was the sun, & there was no gun, and had privilage to them cuz ur cia? And jackie was jumping out to fetch a piece of her husbands brain? Oh and ur not a slave to the central bank, and 911 wasn't a set up? Yep, ur dumb
alleeenterprise 2 years ago 2
You can see close up video on youtube showing the driver with empty hands , JFK getting shot FIRST , then the driver turned around & the driver was a tenth grade educated guy w/ no military background .
Besides com on , shoot him in front of several witnesses , snipers were heard by several witnesses behind grassy knoll and the train station operator saw several men behind fence , from same side , he was killed several weeks later , in an "accident " .
franz909 2 years ago
wow cooper is a hell of a lot better than that sham aj
wishingfreedom 2 years ago
Cooper exposed Alex Jones.
Alexandra22773 2 years ago 2
I will take Mr. Cooper's as the most cretible info i have heardon Kennedy.However Mr.Cooper has came to his conclusions they were extremely well researched.You think the guy was willing to give up his life to dupe us into another crazy kennedy conspiracy.R.I.P. Mr.Cooper.
72768487912002 2 years ago 4
Wows... news on TV was so different then. Now the interviewer would be calling him a nut and a wacko to his face (eg, FOX)
Don't see the driver shooting but I know the whole thing was a huge cover up of something they didn't want anyone to know... (CIA head Dulles on the Warren Commission?).
I thought the 30 part playlist "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" was pretty good
watch?v=X4QkKkXYtr4&feature=PlayList&p=75E82322D6A5D9BE&index=0&playnext=1
zetetic0void 2 years ago 4
mr cooper was completely wrong here. the driver didn't have a gun.
that was the glare of the sun off of the other guys head sitting next to him as he turned around. he should have done better research along with others.
gscash 3 years ago
he is not wrong, the shot definitely took place in the car, the if you look closely the gun is close to the GEAR or stick not around the gray hair but at the gear.
tarasoff775 3 years ago
r u working with the cia?god damn its right in your face
kiluminai 2 years ago
yeah you're a fucking retard. show me where there's a gun with the dirver? please. you seen the close ups of this. watch the other videos closer up. no gun.
for all we know the dirver could have been jacking his dick back there too.
gscash 2 years ago
sir, could you please explain why jackie kennedy reacts to the driver shooting her husband in the head by attempting to get out of the car backwards or was she reacting to strong sunlight as you suggest? I've not seen many people jump out of cars in reaction to strong sunlight.
stargate669 2 years ago 2
watch this video on you tube.
JFK - The driver didn't do it
Then you tell me the driver shot him. NO GUN. Only the illution of having one from a distance. It was the suns glare off of the guys hair and forehead sitting next to the driver.
gscash 2 years ago
The normal reaction to her husband getting shot would be to grab him and drag him to the floor of the car along with herself. That would protect them from any outside shots. The car is armor plated is it ot? She knew that did she not? Do you not think they are trained to get on the floor in case of attack? Hmmmm!????
SuperNewf1 2 years ago
lol thats a good question maybe she forgot her sunglasses that day.
72768487912002 2 years ago 2
equally these comments could be applied to debunkers such as yourself.
stargate669 2 years ago
your just mad because your theory is bullshit. you're saying mrs kennedy was reacting to the driver. WRONG she was reacting to her husband being shot in the head. the driver had no gun. watch the other videos closer up and you'll see that.
I don't think LHO shot Kennedy but this theory is incorrect and that's been proven.
gscash 2 years ago
I was reading the secret government chapter in a pale horse and was reading about this.
Glad there was video footage. Thanks.
BushidoCodeIXW 3 years ago