way superior micro from Jaedong, managing to kill Luxury's drones despite having equal amount of lings. even a single drone kill can turn the tide of a ZvZ, here he got 2 or 3 which turned into a huge advantage. not to mention that he forced Luxury to build a sunken(another drone lost) and he had enough time and minerals to even expand, even a larger advantage. so no wonder Jaedong finished the match off easily with his mutas...
The reason Jaedong was a bit faster is due to the larvae trick that Zerg can do. By selecting the larvae with another unit, and hitting "Stop" it moves the larvae to the left side of the hatchery. For a Zerg player, this increases mining time by maybe a second in the early part of the game. In this case, it translates into about a 1-2 second difference in timing. Nothing that will make a difference in the game, but something interesting to note.
Although it's difficult to tell at most games, in ZvZ and especially with the mineral/gas counter at the bottom, I think it's important not to miss this!
At 2:10 Jaedong goes for speed and at 2:25 Luxury goes for lair with their respective first 100 gas. This was a HUGE divergence in the game, and Klazart didn't really notice! He stated immediately after that there were identical builds.
thanks for pointing that out. I did notice it after when I rewatched the vod. But initially I had thought that both had gone lair to start. But ofc JD had speed lings earlier which is why he was able to get in and do all that damage.
I agree in general, but you should probably watch Kwanro vs Mind. Particularly one of the games that turned out really unexpectedly. It was definitely one of the most interesting ZvZ's i've seen.
jeez the jay to the dong GG. i still miss more ling on ling matches.although some not so standard choises have to been made by both players to come to that
The best thing about being the second person to see a video is I can tell people who refer to their post as being 'first' to stfu and go die of fucking cancer.
u just wanted to say that to be first ,). spoilers are welcome. since disgussing the game and giving ur opinion about the game or commetators. is what most want to do. and dodging reading the comments before the game isnt hard at all. big screens as small screens
why do Koreans at these events always giggle and cover their mouths and face all the time? not making fun its a serious question ;x
wintensity 1 year ago
Copy-chess ... ^^
Galenin 1 year ago
i wish we could see the score at the end of the game
JamieGajer 2 years ago
way superior micro from Jaedong, managing to kill Luxury's drones despite having equal amount of lings. even a single drone kill can turn the tide of a ZvZ, here he got 2 or 3 which turned into a huge advantage. not to mention that he forced Luxury to build a sunken(another drone lost) and he had enough time and minerals to even expand, even a larger advantage. so no wonder Jaedong finished the match off easily with his mutas...
HeLL12aiseR 2 years ago
Wow, this is awesome. Too bad I suck at SC sooooo bad. xD
Kishiru324 2 years ago
go HYUK you can win!. cast more HYUK games plz
xapemanx 2 years ago
i fuckign love zvz GOD i remember back in the day when there were mass TvT soooooo boring
3512435124 2 years ago
Actually Jaedong had his Spire down first... Not Luxury... It was about 50ish HP ahead, so not a big deal really.
MrAndersonmm 2 years ago
The reason Jaedong was a bit faster is due to the larvae trick that Zerg can do. By selecting the larvae with another unit, and hitting "Stop" it moves the larvae to the left side of the hatchery. For a Zerg player, this increases mining time by maybe a second in the early part of the game. In this case, it translates into about a 1-2 second difference in timing. Nothing that will make a difference in the game, but something interesting to note.
MrAndersonmm 2 years ago
In response to your comment about effort/jaedong having the best zerg micro:
Personally, I believe Hyuk has the best Zerg micro. =)
Xeserox 2 years ago
hyuk only jad a few good games... he still needs to do alot more to prove hes a champion...
mastroooo 2 years ago
Thanks for finding a top quality video.
Zraknul 2 years ago
jaedong reminds me of the Hulk when he was fighting fantasy
1337Baboon 2 years ago
Amazing vid quality. TY
PainsawChenus 2 years ago
Vid quality gets 5 orgasms out of 5.
pianomikey0 2 years ago
Maybe even 6?
Robotman42 2 years ago
damn those korean cheaters. why can't they be faithfull
sufilix 2 years ago
luxury put 3 drones on gas and jaedong 2
gucumatz1986 2 years ago
GG!!!!!!!!!
jax1492 2 years ago
Klazart, you were incorrect on the spire timings, Jaedong's harass delayed Luxury's spire enough that his spire was quicker.
B12adSC 2 years ago
A bit of criticism for Klazart --
Although it's difficult to tell at most games, in ZvZ and especially with the mineral/gas counter at the bottom, I think it's important not to miss this!
At 2:10 Jaedong goes for speed and at 2:25 Luxury goes for lair with their respective first 100 gas. This was a HUGE divergence in the game, and Klazart didn't really notice! He stated immediately after that there were identical builds.
Exciting game and commentary, as always :)
dzhangg 2 years ago
thanks for pointing that out. I did notice it after when I rewatched the vod. But initially I had thought that both had gone lair to start. But ofc JD had speed lings earlier which is why he was able to get in and do all that damage.
KlazartSC 2 years ago
I would disagree.... i think build orders are alot less forgiving.
lowfatfishsticks 2 years ago
woot HQ video!
nitemarez444 2 years ago
This video has great picture quality! Keep it up Klazart!
debivort 2 years ago
din't see the OSL final when was that?
martijnh333 2 years ago
Jaedong was actually ahead on the spire.
AlekzLin 2 years ago 2
luxury's facial expression after he gged, was like ''this guy cant be a human being... how can he play so damn perfectly??''
frydooo 2 years ago
there's such little room for error in ZvZ... but god is it boring to me. Jaedong vs Fantasy/Bisu any day over ZvZ. :P
Good commentary tho.
jk3hybrid 2 years ago
I agree in general, but you should probably watch Kwanro vs Mind. Particularly one of the games that turned out really unexpectedly. It was definitely one of the most interesting ZvZ's i've seen.
scftwlol 2 years ago
mind is a terran player.. did you mean calm?
nigerfahgot 2 years ago
oh yeah i meant calm, my bad lol.
scftwlol 2 years ago
Can you link that? I can't seem to find it.
Rickder19 2 years ago
it's on jon747's page
scftwlol 2 years ago
you mean kwanro vs calm?
lol. wrong person
Kohria 2 years ago
ive searched everywhere for kwanro vs mind, where is this video?
Kohria 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
it's on jon747's page
scftwlol 2 years ago
Ya, it is boring when every other ZvZ match is just a ling fight then a muta fight.
Necromas 2 years ago
I dunno about that in general but right now i feel there is almost only ZvZ even tho it's not true
TheLlamaSC 2 years ago
wow, that was great muta micro.
rbrtchng 2 years ago
jeez the jay to the dong GG. i still miss more ling on ling matches.although some not so standard choises have to been made by both players to come to that
kakao777 2 years ago
I didn't really know that I was going to be a first comment, I was a minute or two into the game before posting it o.O
Luck of the draw
ChronaMewX 2 years ago
gl hf gogogogo klazart fighting!!!!
boku119 2 years ago
The best thing about being the second person to see a video is I can tell people who refer to their post as being 'first' to stfu and go die of fucking cancer.
SalesmanJohn 2 years ago 3
u just wanted to say that to be first ,). spoilers are welcome. since disgussing the game and giving ur opinion about the game or commetators. is what most want to do. and dodging reading the comments before the game isnt hard at all. big screens as small screens
kakao777 2 years ago
The best thing about being one of the first person to see a video is the lack of spoiler comments. There's usually one or two within a few hours >.>
ChronaMewX 2 years ago