I know. It's all a conspiracy against you poor, clueless lefties and Obamanauts.
You are nothing but a bunch a children throwing temper tantrums who think the United States is going to roll over because you know how to defecate in public. We have something called an electoral process, not your mob rule. Time to grow up, get a job, and start paying your college loans.
@TheCTConservative It is you that is clueless, occupy has nothing to do with left or right. I think it is you that should grow up and stop repeating all the negative lies you hear. These people are doing something positive, unlike you hiding behind your pc, talking shit.
God damn. We are running out of options. Our freedom is being withered away, little by little. Eventually, it will get to the point where our only option may be violent revolution, and we all know that won't end well for anyone...but what other choice will we have?
Riiiggghhhht. Because the drunks and other bums in NY would not be attracted to the free food, free blankets, free tents, and a "no go zone" for the police otherwise. Are you going to give out free tinfoil hats as well? You people get weirder by the day. Any credibility you may have had, you lost. Between welcoming every lunatic political activist and phony millionaire celebrities, , and these new conspiracy theories , you have become a joke.
@Mrrocker451 u r an idiot.. it might help if u stop watching FOX fake propaganda news and get some real facts .. but it has been shown that FOX fake news watchers are so brainwashed even if they had god himself telling them something different than what they believed they would say he was lying..u people are just moronic
@Mrrocker451 - Sure. And I guess you think provocateurs have never been sent in to give a bad image to a group, or that the NYPD is too dumb to know that tactic. Even a simple-minded YouTuber like yourself has seen plenty of posts masquerading to discredit a particular viewpoint, like Atheists posting as moronic Christians, for example. All the NYPD needs is one alleged "OWS protestor" to look like a psycho in front of a camera to sway public opinion.
@47f0 They don't need to send anyone in. If you had a half a brain you would realize that giving away free food, blankets, and tents will naturally attract street people. Of course, thats too simple an explanation for a paranoid simpleton like yourself. No, there has to be some "conspiracy" because you are so important. Oh, and there have been enough nutcases in front of cameras from the beginning. You MIGHT have had a real impact . Once.
@Mrrocker451 You're not addressing the question of whether they did send anyone in. You are not addressing the question of whether they ignored disruptive behaviour that served their purposes.
@Maxdwolf Point given. I'm not. SO lets address it. where is the proof? This mans claims? Not good enough. Are the protesters allowing the police into the park to enforce existing laws? From what I have seen and heard, no. I could be wrong on that. I do know in other protests the police are not even informed when crimes are committed. That is coming from active protesters themselves. On unedited video.
@Mrrocker451 Who is "this man"? Seder? No. I was presuming he was not making the NY Daily News article up. The reporter or his sources may be in error, but it certainly is something that ought to be looked into. According to the article at least, the police have been asked in repeatedly.
@Maxdwolf I do remember that the crowd refused to leave so the park could be cleaned up and there are several videos out, in other area, where the occupy crowd has said they will handle their problems internally. who should look into it? The PD. If the come out and say no, it never happened, people will scream cover up. As I said , free food free blankets etc. Street people were inevitable. Trying to claim conspiracy is foolish. even if some cops did tel some to go there.
@Mrrocker451 "even if some cops did tel some to go there" is the claim. That would be, technically, a conspiracy.
The protesters did refuse to leave for the pretense of cleaning up. Instead they regularly clean up themselves.
My understanding is that the vote not to cooperate w. the police was overturned in the general assembly. Should you have video or other evidence to the contrary I would appreciate your sharing it.
@Maxdwolf No, technically conspiracy is two or more people agreeing to course of action. That however, is splitting hairs. The claims being made are that there is a policy of sending street people into the camp for the purpose of defaming the purpose of the protest. as I said I could be wrong about the cooperating with the police. However, it has been a policy in places such as Oakland and was a policy at one time in NYand LA. You can google the issue and see the videos..
@Mrrocker451 As for working with the police, the newest, or maybe by the time you read, one of the newest by Sam is another blogger talking with a committee organiser at OWS who says they try to work with the police but often the police refuse to work with them.
They had a claim of a man raped but it took 5 police before 1 would take the report.
Oaklands issue is their police are so bad that for years they have been under federal investigation and notices etc...
@waltermh111 So essentially Oakland has long ago given up on their police force. Oakland police are continueing to go after peaceful protesters and often ignoring any violent ones.
I cant say Oakland police are overall worse than NYPD but the citizens feel its the case. And having read a bit on their history with the police, I dont blame them for refusing to work with their police force. It seems a force that if you let any in, your more likely to be stabbed in the back.
@waltermh111 If they are going to start working with the police, in cases that warrant it, then good for them. Don't you find it odd though that even need a committee to do so? The OWS crowd had some good points to make in the beginning, now, their behavior has ruined the chance of popular support. Perhaps I should say the behavior of the leadership, such as it is. They should have had the police in from the first time the criminal element began to exert its influence.
@Mrrocker451 The police didnt want in from the start. The police took their place on the edge and caused the disturbances even without mayoral approval apparently.
The vandals are mostly the anarchists which nobody can really control because they dont partake in the process. They dont believe in democracy. You just do what you feel like.
Again, people had tried going to the police and so few would help. The commitee is like neighborhood watch if you ever heard of them.
@waltermh111 I live in Sacramento and have worked allover Norcal. I know how bad the PD in Oakland is. Not to mention San Jose, which is worse. However, that doesn't justify the vandalism or the blocking of people from doing their jobs. Those types of actions have really turned people away from any productive message that might have come out. That and bringing in radicals and limousine liberal celebrities. Bad idea.
@Maxdwolf As to ignoring disruptive behavior. It seems they are ignoring all types of disruptive behavior. If the protesters want the police to maintain law and order then they should obey the same rules they expect others to. Such as leaving the park so it can be cleaned. You really lost a lot of potential support with that stunt. Someone is telling the police to avoid confrontation. That much is obvious.
ha ha ha, that's funny. guess OWS only wants people like them at the park, not the homeless and the other drunks that run around...guess they are part of the 99% only when they are sober. you'd think they, the socialists there, would love to have the homeless there, don't they want to share? Share their iphone and macbooks? ha ha ha....
Nah. That's not funny. What's funny as hell is your tiny little penis. What's funny is how you shitbags profit from America, then want to chuckle at every slimy tactic to silence the voices of the Americans that you injured. What's funny is how you little bitches scream if you have to pay a nickel in taxes, then happily gang-rape Americans who actually work for a living, Mr. Equity Fund Broker.
@47f0 ....ah yes, the small pecker insult. Showing off the college education again, bet your mom must be proud, maybe she will make you a cheese sandwich, since you still live a home. I look out my window at the protesters and its now just become a sit-in. I say have at it, winters coming and I know all those in my circle are really, really sad and upset. I heard that BOA was just gonna give houses away they feel sooo, super bad.
Actually, in your case, I'm extremely confident that was a compliment. You should thank me. My mom's been dead for years, but my grandchildren are growing up in a country decimated by you money masturbators who produce absolutely nothing of value to America. Winter's coming? (use apostrophes, you illiterate fuck)That chill in the air you feel is your French revolution coming - enjoy the view out your window.
@47f0 Your funny. When I sit back and watch your people like you, the lazy socialists, beg for scraps its so very cute. No, there is no revolution. I think for you, suicide is the only option. Those, such as yourself, that hate America and the Republic, and hate the 'haves' ~ isn't the eternal sleep best? I mean you don't want to suffer right? If guess if you would have stopped bitching and moaning, you might change something but hold out your tin cup, maybe someone will drop in a quarter.
I must make it clear that I am a supporter of the Occupy Movement, and have participated in the protest. I just think it's extremely important for us not to believe just anything we hear.
Tabloids often lack journalistic integrity. They sensationalize information, which means what they say isn't always genuine or 100% honest. I'm interested to know precisely who their "reliable" source is. Unfortunately, they pray on those who don't understand this, and those who do understand could easily dismiss the readers as ignorant.
@laserthebeam1 NYPD doesn't need any help being slimeballs. Wall Street "using" NYPD is like a dung beetle moving around a ball of shit, neither one is very clean.
Typical for the N.Y.P.D. They just brought a few cops to trial for planting drugs to meet quotas. That was only the tip of the iceberg. The N.Y.P.D. has no credibility.
@xadam2dudex The fucked up thing is at onetime the systematic corruption was actually worse in the N.Y.P.D. than it is now. Imagine how many of their victims are still in prison from the shit they pulled all the way back in the 70's up until now.
CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
@Friedstuffsable That sort of thing is inevitable when you run your law enforcement like a business. The profit motive is a pretty horrible reason to enforce laws, but that's the system we've embraced.
"In the fall of 1970, Rove used a false identity to enter the campaign office of Democrat Alan J. Dixon, who was running for Treasurer of Illinois. He stole 1000 sheets of paper with campaign letterhead, printed fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing", and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters, with the effect of disrupting Dixon's rally. "
I know. It's all a conspiracy against you poor, clueless lefties and Obamanauts.
You are nothing but a bunch a children throwing temper tantrums who think the United States is going to roll over because you know how to defecate in public. We have something called an electoral process, not your mob rule. Time to grow up, get a job, and start paying your college loans.
TheCTConservative 2 months ago
@TheCTConservative It is you that is clueless, occupy has nothing to do with left or right. I think it is you that should grow up and stop repeating all the negative lies you hear. These people are doing something positive, unlike you hiding behind your pc, talking shit.
rcarter614 1 month ago
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This isn't going to make anything better.
Charlie12241 3 months ago
dumb reporter inside job inside investigation were being toyed with get a freaking clue
Emo666Cali 3 months ago
yeah an internal investigation base on the comment of some drunks.....yeah that has good footing..
450dump 3 months ago
God damn. We are running out of options. Our freedom is being withered away, little by little. Eventually, it will get to the point where our only option may be violent revolution, and we all know that won't end well for anyone...but what other choice will we have?
SonofOrion42 3 months ago
you talk too slow.
MikeonTU 4 months ago
Riiiggghhhht. Because the drunks and other bums in NY would not be attracted to the free food, free blankets, free tents, and a "no go zone" for the police otherwise. Are you going to give out free tinfoil hats as well? You people get weirder by the day. Any credibility you may have had, you lost. Between welcoming every lunatic political activist and phony millionaire celebrities, , and these new conspiracy theories , you have become a joke.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 u r an idiot.. it might help if u stop watching FOX fake propaganda news and get some real facts .. but it has been shown that FOX fake news watchers are so brainwashed even if they had god himself telling them something different than what they believed they would say he was lying..u people are just moronic
xadam2dudex 4 months ago
@xadam2dudex Hey moron. I don't watch Fox go shine your tinfoil hat you loser.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 - Sure. And I guess you think provocateurs have never been sent in to give a bad image to a group, or that the NYPD is too dumb to know that tactic. Even a simple-minded YouTuber like yourself has seen plenty of posts masquerading to discredit a particular viewpoint, like Atheists posting as moronic Christians, for example. All the NYPD needs is one alleged "OWS protestor" to look like a psycho in front of a camera to sway public opinion.
47f0 4 months ago
@47f0 They don't need to send anyone in. If you had a half a brain you would realize that giving away free food, blankets, and tents will naturally attract street people. Of course, thats too simple an explanation for a paranoid simpleton like yourself. No, there has to be some "conspiracy" because you are so important. Oh, and there have been enough nutcases in front of cameras from the beginning. You MIGHT have had a real impact . Once.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 You're not addressing the question of whether they did send anyone in. You are not addressing the question of whether they ignored disruptive behaviour that served their purposes.
Maxdwolf 4 months ago
@Maxdwolf Point given. I'm not. SO lets address it. where is the proof? This mans claims? Not good enough. Are the protesters allowing the police into the park to enforce existing laws? From what I have seen and heard, no. I could be wrong on that. I do know in other protests the police are not even informed when crimes are committed. That is coming from active protesters themselves. On unedited video.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 Who is "this man"? Seder? No. I was presuming he was not making the NY Daily News article up. The reporter or his sources may be in error, but it certainly is something that ought to be looked into. According to the article at least, the police have been asked in repeatedly.
Maxdwolf 4 months ago
@Maxdwolf I do remember that the crowd refused to leave so the park could be cleaned up and there are several videos out, in other area, where the occupy crowd has said they will handle their problems internally. who should look into it? The PD. If the come out and say no, it never happened, people will scream cover up. As I said , free food free blankets etc. Street people were inevitable. Trying to claim conspiracy is foolish. even if some cops did tel some to go there.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 "even if some cops did tel some to go there" is the claim. That would be, technically, a conspiracy.
The protesters did refuse to leave for the pretense of cleaning up. Instead they regularly clean up themselves.
My understanding is that the vote not to cooperate w. the police was overturned in the general assembly. Should you have video or other evidence to the contrary I would appreciate your sharing it.
Maxdwolf 4 months ago
@Maxdwolf No, technically conspiracy is two or more people agreeing to course of action. That however, is splitting hairs. The claims being made are that there is a policy of sending street people into the camp for the purpose of defaming the purpose of the protest. as I said I could be wrong about the cooperating with the police. However, it has been a policy in places such as Oakland and was a policy at one time in NYand LA. You can google the issue and see the videos..
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 As for working with the police, the newest, or maybe by the time you read, one of the newest by Sam is another blogger talking with a committee organiser at OWS who says they try to work with the police but often the police refuse to work with them.
They had a claim of a man raped but it took 5 police before 1 would take the report.
Oaklands issue is their police are so bad that for years they have been under federal investigation and notices etc...
Its really bad there.
waltermh111 4 months ago in playlist More videos from SamSeder
@waltermh111 So essentially Oakland has long ago given up on their police force. Oakland police are continueing to go after peaceful protesters and often ignoring any violent ones.
I cant say Oakland police are overall worse than NYPD but the citizens feel its the case. And having read a bit on their history with the police, I dont blame them for refusing to work with their police force. It seems a force that if you let any in, your more likely to be stabbed in the back.
waltermh111 4 months ago in playlist More videos from SamSeder
@waltermh111 If they are going to start working with the police, in cases that warrant it, then good for them. Don't you find it odd though that even need a committee to do so? The OWS crowd had some good points to make in the beginning, now, their behavior has ruined the chance of popular support. Perhaps I should say the behavior of the leadership, such as it is. They should have had the police in from the first time the criminal element began to exert its influence.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Mrrocker451 The police didnt want in from the start. The police took their place on the edge and caused the disturbances even without mayoral approval apparently.
The vandals are mostly the anarchists which nobody can really control because they dont partake in the process. They dont believe in democracy. You just do what you feel like.
Again, people had tried going to the police and so few would help. The commitee is like neighborhood watch if you ever heard of them.
waltermh111 3 months ago
@waltermh111 I live in Sacramento and have worked allover Norcal. I know how bad the PD in Oakland is. Not to mention San Jose, which is worse. However, that doesn't justify the vandalism or the blocking of people from doing their jobs. Those types of actions have really turned people away from any productive message that might have come out. That and bringing in radicals and limousine liberal celebrities. Bad idea.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
@Maxdwolf As to ignoring disruptive behavior. It seems they are ignoring all types of disruptive behavior. If the protesters want the police to maintain law and order then they should obey the same rules they expect others to. Such as leaving the park so it can be cleaned. You really lost a lot of potential support with that stunt. Someone is telling the police to avoid confrontation. That much is obvious.
Mrrocker451 4 months ago
This is a great idea! I'm going to get drunk off my ass via a keg of heineken and head to occupy wallstreet I'll see you cocksuckers there!
Hilariousity 4 months ago
Well its typical of governments to do this. Remember that mubarak did this to the crowds at Tahrir square.
desiboyh 4 months ago
No surprise there, NYPD clearly works for corrupt bankers and would do anything to undermine democracy and due diligence.
NYPD = Corrupt anti democratic racist corporate sponsored oppressive fascist force for evil.
Calling them anything else is an insult to a dignity, democracy, liberty and all other fair and honest police forces around the globe.
Hate NYPD!!! teeshirts would sell rather well if some smart business person come with idea and logo.
micoforion 4 months ago
@laserthebeam1 I only assumed that the protesters would have welcomed the homeless freely and with open arms....broke bread with them as it were
DavidLister6000 4 months ago
ha ha ha, that's funny. guess OWS only wants people like them at the park, not the homeless and the other drunks that run around...guess they are part of the 99% only when they are sober. you'd think they, the socialists there, would love to have the homeless there, don't they want to share? Share their iphone and macbooks? ha ha ha....
DavidLister6000 4 months ago
@DavidLister6000 - "ha ha ha, that's funny."
.
Nah. That's not funny. What's funny as hell is your tiny little penis. What's funny is how you shitbags profit from America, then want to chuckle at every slimy tactic to silence the voices of the Americans that you injured. What's funny is how you little bitches scream if you have to pay a nickel in taxes, then happily gang-rape Americans who actually work for a living, Mr. Equity Fund Broker.
47f0 4 months ago
@47f0 ....ah yes, the small pecker insult. Showing off the college education again, bet your mom must be proud, maybe she will make you a cheese sandwich, since you still live a home. I look out my window at the protesters and its now just become a sit-in. I say have at it, winters coming and I know all those in my circle are really, really sad and upset. I heard that BOA was just gonna give houses away they feel sooo, super bad.
DavidLister6000 4 months ago
@DavidLister6000 - "ah yes, the small pecker insult"
.
Actually, in your case, I'm extremely confident that was a compliment. You should thank me. My mom's been dead for years, but my grandchildren are growing up in a country decimated by you money masturbators who produce absolutely nothing of value to America. Winter's coming? (use apostrophes, you illiterate fuck)That chill in the air you feel is your French revolution coming - enjoy the view out your window.
47f0 4 months ago
@47f0 Your funny. When I sit back and watch your people like you, the lazy socialists, beg for scraps its so very cute. No, there is no revolution. I think for you, suicide is the only option. Those, such as yourself, that hate America and the Republic, and hate the 'haves' ~ isn't the eternal sleep best? I mean you don't want to suffer right? If guess if you would have stopped bitching and moaning, you might change something but hold out your tin cup, maybe someone will drop in a quarter.
DavidLister6000 4 months ago
Fox News has already started slanting their coverage in this direction.
ducati135 4 months ago
I must make it clear that I am a supporter of the Occupy Movement, and have participated in the protest. I just think it's extremely important for us not to believe just anything we hear.
alleybow1 4 months ago
Tabloids often lack journalistic integrity. They sensationalize information, which means what they say isn't always genuine or 100% honest. I'm interested to know precisely who their "reliable" source is. Unfortunately, they pray on those who don't understand this, and those who do understand could easily dismiss the readers as ignorant.
alleybow1 4 months ago
it's the same thing what Tunisians ,Egyptians, Syrians, yemenians police did to their peoples
A.C.A.B 4ever
hamdi141 4 months ago
Occupy the Federal Reserve.
mark32811 4 months ago 2
@laserthebeam1 NYPD doesn't need any help being slimeballs. Wall Street "using" NYPD is like a dung beetle moving around a ball of shit, neither one is very clean.
Maat922 4 months ago
occupy the asylum
MrDiamondFDC 4 months ago
Because i believe everything i hear!!!!
chucktowne 4 months ago
I'm Shocked....
videomanCR 4 months ago
NYPD is so scummy! S
StyngRay1 4 months ago
Man if that is true, I hope those police get thrown off the force.
Textynn 4 months ago
Unbelievable, but paradoxically, not surprising.
yossarian1633 4 months ago
Typical for the N.Y.P.D. They just brought a few cops to trial for planting drugs to meet quotas. That was only the tip of the iceberg. The N.Y.P.D. has no credibility.
Friedstuffsable 4 months ago 53
@Friedstuffsable they have been dirty forever.. cops all over the country are no better
xadam2dudex 4 months ago
@xadam2dudex The fucked up thing is at onetime the systematic corruption was actually worse in the N.Y.P.D. than it is now. Imagine how many of their victims are still in prison from the shit they pulled all the way back in the 70's up until now.
Friedstuffsable 4 months ago
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CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
kopellhinex 3 months ago
@Friedstuffsable That sort of thing is inevitable when you run your law enforcement like a business. The profit motive is a pretty horrible reason to enforce laws, but that's the system we've embraced.
grygus 3 months ago
NYC Cops have lost all credibility along with Bloomberg.
Dirty tricks always get discovered, this should strengthen the 99% resolve in taking down the corrupt plutocrats.
The dirt bags at the top won't stop till blood flows.
kgdies 4 months ago 2
INTERNAL INVESTIGATION?!? Those lead to nothing.
What we need is a PUBLIC investigation STAT.
artmachine2008 4 months ago
Send in the clowns.
ZedAlfa273 4 months ago
Sounds depressingly familiar...
"In the fall of 1970, Rove used a false identity to enter the campaign office of Democrat Alan J. Dixon, who was running for Treasurer of Illinois. He stole 1000 sheets of paper with campaign letterhead, printed fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing", and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters, with the effect of disrupting Dixon's rally. "
valleyglenheights 4 months ago 2
@valleyglenheights "Bush's brain" great documentary.
RVirus25 4 months ago
don't let the police win. stay peaceful.
slytherinspy1960 4 months ago
Mother. Fuckers. Kill a pig...make some bacon.
AmsterdamHeavy 4 months ago
WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED. BUNCH OF CORRUPT MF'S
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Is D.C. doing anything about the economy?
The lack of jobs and high unemployment could ruin the economy, again.
Where are the jobs?
(US Unemployment rate: 22-25% - Great Depression Unemployment rate: 25%)
2011 Current college students: 20.4 million
2011 Expected job creation: 1.2 million (adjusted: including Nov. & Dec.)
This is unsustainable and highly dangerous.
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CECOAdvocate 4 months ago
nypd is a criminal organization. No surprise.
AveragePope 4 months ago
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so true
megamogx 4 months ago
first
cockroach2 4 months ago