2009 KIA Optima(Korean name LOTZE innovation)

[KiaTrader]

KIA is the best

[palebeachbum]

They should air this commercial in the US, but in English of course. Gives the Optima a really classy and sophisticated image. Nice car.

[palebeachbum]

Oh yeah and I just noticed the tail lights are LED and look MUCH sexier than the US version. Also, paddle shifters!? Why'd they cheapen it so much for the US market? Thought they are trying to be more upscale and taken more seriously!

[skbuoy]

Because those options will make the car more expensive. Kia is trying to make decent and very affordable cars.

[palebeachbum]

I understand that. But the issue is that Kia is seen as cheap cars in the US. The Accord has LED tail lights. The Optima in US does not. It's little things like this that continue the "cheap" image of Kia and why Honda seems more upscale. I have an Optima and love it, but I think what I say is true. What would be wrong with offering the LED tail lights, paddle shifters, and other nice non-US features as options or a luxury/sport package?

[skbuoy]

I see your point. However, if they can put those options it will be impossible for them to keep their price the same. It will be the same as the accord. If the price is the same as the accord, most folks will go for the accord including me. The Optima is about $5k cheaper. You can get the price even lower

[palebeachbum]

Oh yeah the price would definitely be higher with those added options, BUT if an Accord was equipped the same, it would still be more expensive than the Optima. As it is, the '09 Accord is cheaper in some ways than the Optima. Just little things. Like the Accord's trunk lid is not carpeted and it uses old-style cheap hinges, while the Optima has a carpeted trunk lid and modern hinge design. I was shocked when I saw this on a Honda Accord review.

[skbuoy]

most people dont look at those little details these details are irrelevant when purchasing a car. i would go with the honda if the optima was the same price.

[palebeachbum]

I disagree. If it was irrelevent, car companies wouldn't spend the money and charge it to you to put extra details in/on the car. Cheaper cars have things missing like carpeted trunk lid, underhood insulation, cheaper trunk hinges, no glovebox light, no vanity mirrors/lights. I know when car companies cut corners, these are the types of features that are eliminated because they don't think consumers will notice. I do.

[skbuoy]

these things dont matter. It is the engine, the safety equiment, technical things that matter.

[palebeachbum]

What matters depends on who you ask. I agree with you, but a lot of people are more interested in the image of the car than anything else.

[skbuoy]

And that is why the Kia fails in luring customers. There is still a sense that Kia is a bad car. It is better than American made cars

[palebeachbum]

Kia is slowly getting better about this and will continue to as they come out with new exciting models. Look at the images they've created to lure buyers with the Forte and Soul. That whole hampster campaign everyone talks.

[skbuoy]

I live in LA area and I haven't seen a Forte or the Soul for months.

[palebeachbum]

Well that's weird. I see the Soul often (saw a lime green one today actually) and have seen several new Forte sedans already.

[Shadao38]

I don't know...the car look very civic/Corolla-ish to me....

[palebeachbum]

I don't think it will in person. It's a much larger car.

[Kairos1955]

Here in Canada the song plays in the Kia's Magenta ad. I like the song... it sounds a lot like Angela McCluskey (Wild Colonials).

[slygolden]

thanks so much aqtl for the fast answer really love this song xxx

[slygolden]

I want the title of this song plizzzzzzz

[aqtl]

The song's title is Koop Island Blues

[mrkanarsie]

hey thank u very much this song is bangging

[linamrud]

whats this song called???

[TroVirus]

nice

[rockaquaka]

wow... i cant beleive this car is kia's... very nice car

[HakemEX]

Love the look. I just wish the grille was on the 2009 optima here in the states.

[knightsshlong]

Sky di Himida means I was born a Girl!

[chlqnwkd]

sky di Himida..is wrong

스타일이 힘이다-korean's mean

"style is power"

[sirberner12]

look like a ford kissed a lexus and they butt fucked a kia!

[AiKawashima]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!!!!

I wannnnnnnt one!!!!

I love thi car!!!

REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY

REALLY !!!!!!

[karatcha]

Now that body and fascia can go together!

But now I like the new FORTE more than this...