The Smashing Pumpkins - The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning - Hammond, Indiana 8-9-08

[symboitesRul3]

They're not the Pumpkins IMO. They needs all the members to be the band.

You can't have Led Zepplin w/o Bonham, you can't have The Police with only Sting, you can't have The Beatles w/o Lennon.

All the members are what make a band a band. You can have 3 guys in a band, but if one leaves, it's not that band any longer.

[cradleofflames]

I would agree to a point.

However, how many drummers have Pearl Jam fired and still remained the same?

I would say it depends on the contribution of the person leaving. D'Arcy was irrelevant; she didn't play on most if any of the records. Besides Melissa seemed to fit better and sound better but I prefer that material in general. On the contrary I'd say James not returning was epic fail.

[darkhawk1979]

Iha was awesome in A Perfect Circle but for some reason his solo work wasn't that good. He needs good songwriters around him like Corgan and Maynard.

[cradleofflames]

@darkhawk1979 I'd have to disagree. James' solo material was amazing but in a totally different way than either the Pumpkins or APC.

FYI It was Billy Howerdel that wrote the APC material.

[2323jgrant]

@cradleofflames it was howerdel that wrote the Apc material...UNTIL maynard kinda...took over after a while lol.

[Gregamania69]

Comparing darcy Wreztky to John Lennon?

I don't remember Iha and Weeztky writing half of the Pumpkins albums. They contibuted to maybe 1 or 2 songs per album.

[AceTrowa1]

Read before you post. Nothing you said made any sense when compared to the person you quoted.

[Robohump]

Take your own advice, tough guy. You migh want to read the actual post.

You can't have the Beatles without Lennon does not equal you cann't have the Pumpkins without Wretzky. Period. The two are not comparable in any way whatsoever. Wretzky leaving is no different than a band firing the drummer (whch happens ALL THE TIME.

Get it chief?

[Gamagachee]

1. Billy Corgan's voice was best in SP's Gish album, LISTEN TO IT.

2. This is still great, during the Mellon Collie years his voice was bad 'cause he was going through a long state of voice change.

3. His Dress is awesome, Billy Corgan can wear whatever the fuck he wants.

[AimeeViolette]

wish I was there....wahhhh :'C

[HANBASM]

The end is the beginning is the end is way better. plus come on he's in a fucking dress.

[jarazerote]

esa no la toco here in guadalajara....please come back billy...we miss you...in mexico guadalajara y monterrey....!!

[weezer521]

how many bald women do u see everyday, huh? and that's a skirt...

i guess u don't see many full grown men in skirts every either, but maybe he's trying to be different??

[fire14snake1]

is that a guy or girl with a deep voice i cant tell with that dress

[iKayle]

Are you serious?

That's Billy Corgan from the Smashing Pumpkins...

[hiddenThecakeisalie]

Wow. It would be scary if a girl had that voice

[arcangelagn]

Bill Corgan lo maximo..

[toobarific]

to the motormouth in the crowd.....STFU cokehead

[ps3gaiden]

who's singing does not sonud like pumpkins

[gmodesike]

that'd be billy corgan, billy is singing

[RawbThatPunk]

he's aging...

[shizuku1139]

cool thanks

[icantfindanamethis]

exactly

when the watchmen are corrupt...

[basketcase5295]

lol hilarious. did they ever perform this before the trailer?

[andrescopo]

So what?

They can do what the fucking want!

Bye

[asublimefan]

hahahhaha

[Drratburn]

What?..The Pumpkins broke up from 2000-2007. So, no, they couldn't have..

[gamedismantler]

They got back together.

[Drratburn]

They got back together and did Zeitgeist, however, today on the website it has been officially declared that The Smashing Pumpkins are no more.. Bad timing on your part, haha :P I am very sad..

[Mkivfan28]

Just because Jimmy left doesn't mean they aren't the pumpkins!!

[Drratburn]

The only original member left in the band is Billy. It's not Smashing Pumpkins any more, it's just Billy Corgan.

[Mkivfan28]

Yeah I know that Billy is the only one left but that doesn't matter. The music is what matters.

[HyperactiveClown]

green lantern

[BleachMusicStudios]

GL is fuckin awesome

[bjthepumpkinguy]

robin

[ShaftInAfrica920]

Who watches the Watchmen?

[PersonalJesus348]

batman

[TravuhsWree]

DUUUHHHH.

JK.

[moethebadass1]

@ShaftInAfrica920 we do, in hd