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  • 5:44 That guy happens to be Ben Wyatt. LOL

  • 8:10: What? Clothes? Who said that?

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  • An excellent dissection, sir. I've always thought this so-called "2nd best ST movie" was schlock TV at best. One point you glossed over, Frakes and company are all, "Oh, ho-hum, we can't contact our ship. Don't know what happened." I guess that falls under the lines of dialogue that explain mack truck sized holes. Anyway, greatly looking forward to what you have to say about JJ Trek.

  • @drcaputi He seemed to like Abrams Trek.

  • @kranktank Yeah, I found his review and was completely baffled by it. Abrams must've supplied him with pizza rolls. While JJ recast well (except Spock-- what a whiny baby!) and had a bigger scope, it was essentially Nemesis all over again, dumb looking enemy ship, lame, under-motivated villain and MUCH BIGGER HOLES in the script. How can one spend ten minutes dissecting the Holographic Doctor scene in FC while completely glossing over Nero's drill idea. (Duh. Use your transporter you moron!)

  • @drcaputi Similar to FC, Star Trek 2009 was much more about presentation and watchable-ness than solid plotting.

  • @kranktank I hear you. JJ Trek has much better energy than the TNG films and is watchable in its shiny, trying way too hard way. But I really wish these high priced Hollywood writers, would actually study the craft of writing. So desperate to get Kirk into the command chair that you gotta wonder why they just didn't start the movie with him on the 4th year of the voyage. Sure, bring in Nero change the time line, but what's with the cadet going to Captain idea?

  • @drcaputi Meanwhile, FC started on the right foot, with Goldsmith's new theme and the Enterprise and the cast in the steely blue and gray hues, then the movie goes to earth and direct from TV land we get schlocky earthlings in dumb hats and the Borg with their rubber Halloween costumes flopping on the sets while the sound effects go clank! clank! TNG movies were produced by a TV producer and it showed.

  • @drcaputi 47 seconds = 10 minutes? It all makes sense now!

  • @BladeStrike did you really time how long our man talked about the sick bay scene?

  • @drcaputi Yep I wasted 10 minutes

  • @BladeStrike A good line, but who are you kidding? The fact that you even bothered to read my comment betrays the fact that wasting time is a favorite past time. 

  • And you know, I'm not pointing fingers. There's a million things I should be doing right now.

  • The special effects are stupid. The enterprise is so obviously a fake computer generated model

  • @Yewon2001 no it's a model i think

  • I have to agree...if you think this is "bad" then you really need to see more truly good and bad films to form a real sense of differentiation.

  • This is my second favorite trek film (second only to Khan) because it highlighted truly awesome episodes of star trek (much like Khan).

  • Actually, First Contact was one of the 10 best movies of it's time, you can hardly say it's the 3,967th worst film ever

  • bloody genius.

  • This guy needs to get laid.

  • @WeezaY5000

    You do realize that Mr Plinkett is a fictional character right?

  • @Nigralurker I believe Weeza was trying to say that Plinkett needs to "fuck the pain away."

  • oh no..not this idiotic reviewer again..:$

  • Better things to do #1 Hang your self from a balqony XD

  • I need to watch this movie

  • Except the Borg are also organic.

  • Some good points here, especially the first one which is the biggest and most obvious plot hole. But not everything mentioned is a serious error or even necessarily and error at all. There's still some great stuff in this movie, mainly Lilly's character, and I still like it.

  • @ctchampagne

    Lilly is a nuisance but she has nice tits.

  • Ha, I used to think this was a great Star Trek movie, but Mr. Plinkett is starting to make me think that...maybe...NOTHING IS REAL

  • I will say while the Phantom Menace review really opened my eyes to the problems with the movie. I see only a few of the problems with First Contact in this review. Some things reviewed and talked about by Plinkett are debatable. That might be due to my knowledge of trek things, normal people wouldn't know. Still one of my favorite movies.

  • "I Guess a machine gun has no effect on a cybernetic life form then... Oh wait, it does!"

    LOL!

  • The ongoing war against the Dominion was actually a somewhat valid reason for the rest of the DS9 command crew to not be present.

  • I actually enjoy this one.

  • wow, I sued to really like this movie until this review opened my eyes to the truth of how lame it actually is.

  • Bravo Mr. Plinkett! People, inexplicably, love First Contact.  I have no idea why.

  • You say star trek generations is the worse movie ever but i thought the phantom menace was? I am so confused

  • This is fucking hilarious, I actually like first contact. Great satire xD

  • Let me tell you something to the haters and that includes the RedLetterMedia douchebag: you guys didn't like the movie, you hate it, BUT do you have enough money to hire a writer for a script, actors and special FX team like ILM to make a better movie?? Didn't think so. So keep your winning to yourselves, you lowlifes!

  • @richardhalo umadbro?

  • @richardhalo After seeing one good Star Trek movie (the motion picture) and the tv show that were instant hits, this movie along with the other 3 are just cheaply made crap. It's not that the audience couldn't share any negative critic about it just because they don't have the resources or the experience and skills to make a better movie. So what the fuck are you talking about?

  • @richardhalo By that logic I would have no right to complain about the Star Wars Holiday Special because I don't own any wookiee suits.

    Just because you have the means to make a movie doesn't mean you should half-ass it.

  • @richardhalo Just because you can't make something better doesn't mean you have no right to criticize it.

  • Picard did not know where the borg cube's weak spot was until after he heard them talking. Therefore he could not warn the ships in advance.

  • @6:39 Federation shields all work on the same frequency thing so they would be able to beam through them.

  • This guy's voice is really annoying.

  • Thank you! I thought I was the only person who hated this shit movie.

  • @tangymilk No, you're not the only one, i also hate this piece of shit

  • hey thats ben from parks & rec on the defiant

  • When I saw Star Wars Episode 4 in the side bar I was like

    WAAAAAAA-

    oh ok.

  • Since the computer knew it was Picard who gave the order (as voice recognition commands are given throughout the series, had the numb-nut reviewer bothered to pay attention), it would have easily known what size he was.

    Most if not all of the complaints here are just time-killers, with the reviewer stretching to find something worth whining about.

  • @SpreadingtheMuse lol yeah but they were 6 ppl just saying lolz

  • @Gameryeah Yeah but the computer could have AT LEAST assumed that Picard was referring to the 3 people in the elevator with him. And he could have given orders for the rest immediately after. We've seen the TNG computer figure stuff out like that a million times before and this twat reviewer knows it.

  • As usual, the reviewer collapses under assumptions and literal-mindedness. The Defiant was designed to defeat the Borg, sure.

    BUT.

    1) It was only the prototype, which meant

    2) It never actually got to test how good it was, so

    3) Losing in its FIRST fight is not only valid plot wise, but logical

    To review the puriel reviewer: You mean all Starfleet had to do was say "We've designed a kickass ship" and thats all it takes? Who cares if they were RIGHT or not?

    Dumbass ;)

  • Whereas Brannon and Braga were the worst things to happen to Star Treks writing staff (only cause Jeri Taylor didnt hang around as long), STFC is perfectly watchable.

  • Dude wtf. ISS > DS9

  • "Hang themselves from balconies." lol - fantastic

  • @talkinghead80 That may be youtube's darkest joke.

  • Mr. Plinkett can make any movie look like total crap lol

  • You dont sound as dull and board, Plinkett! Why?

  • Mr. Plinkett

    You have the innate ability to make your point known to the public. I most enjoy your bit on the plot hole. Although I think this one was the best TNG movie, it still sorta stank.

  • Is this guy autistic? And on tranquilizers?

  • @pupp745 Please, tell me you're joking......IT'S A JOKE, he doesn't really talk like this.

  • The whole "machine gun" argument is stupid because Data and the Borg aren't the same at all. Data's a full cybernetic, while the Borg are an organic species with cybernetic implants.

  • I agree with you about plot. I'm not a trekkie but I remember yelling, "but he knows everything about the Borg!! You're not using your best weapon!!" lol And she had feelings unlike her minions. / Also, isn't this first contact? So, they make Data jump, a thing dressed in period clothing to hide what?They scare her so badly, she faints. Isn't it a big, big deal to be as careful as you can when making first contact? lol I've wondered when the actors realize something's off, can't they say it?

  • @AutumnsPillar If you would have watched further you would have seen why he criticized the film. Oh wait. You're a worthless faggot.

  • @AutumnsPillar I agree. I also find this guys voice so fucking boring.

  • @AutumnsPillar Trolololololololololo........ or a sad Trekkie.

  • @AutumnsPillar Well, maybe he has actual opinions rather than just following everyone else. Just because First Contact is considered the best, doesn't mean it is. I personally didn't like it that much.

  • sounds lice ebvus or buthead XD

  • I always wondered why they didn't just use old school guns against the Borg on the Enterprise. They coulda mopped the floor with em.

  • I love star trek and first contact is my fav but Im holding my sides true so funny lmfao

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  • They single out the Defiant because the Defiant is GOD!

  • Completely disagree this time Plinkett which is extremely odd! First Contact was superb. The rest= garbage.

  • Are you kidding?

  • There are plenty of flaws in this movie, but I still think it is one of the finest things to come out of Star Trek.

  • Another problem: I doubt that "ramming speed" would be an actual order that everyone is taught in the Academy, because that's not something you do in fucking Starfleet. This isn't WWII.

  • The Tommy Gun only affected the Borg because Picard shot them in their organic parts. Data doesn't have organic parts.

  • @spartacus778 You mean the head? The head is the only exposed organic part that would cause death, but I see no injuries to the head. The best explanation is that the Borg go down really fucking easy. You can just rip out one of those tubes and they fucking die. You'd think after 100,000 years they would have figured out that that's a shitty way to design drones and that they should at least not make the tubes stick out like that, but whatever.

  • 'i guess a machine gun has no effect on a cybernetic lifeform then . . . oh wait it does'

    lol

  • "I guess a machine gun has no effect on a cybernetic lifeform then"

    Unless the machine gun is wielded by the fucking Picard.

  • @TheAle89515 But that gun was also produced by the holodeck, wasn't it? So what they're really saying is that holographic bullets are stronger than real bullets. :/

    I dunno... If it's true that holodecks use force fields to make holograms feel solid, then I guess what's really happening is that the ship is shoving tiny force fields into the Borg drones to kill them, which is strange, but awesome.

  • @TheAle89515 ok, wasn't it Data who took little to no damage? I thought the reason the borg took such a big hit was because they actually have organic parts

  • @GeneralMcNeil Well if I had to come up with my nerd-theory, I'd say it was because it Picard wasn't using an actual machine gun--- he was using a holographic projection firing holographic bullets. With the safety protocols off that essentially means the "bullets" were actually high energy forcefields hitting the Borg. In other words Picard had come up with a way to defeat the Borg that would only work in the Holodeck.

  • I really enjoyed First Contact, even with it's flaws. I think it's definitely the best TNG film. It is too bad TNG didn't get at least one really, really great Star trek film, like TOS had Wrath of Khan. TNG deserved it, it was the better, more mature, intelligent and consistent series.

    The 2009 Star Trek was great fun, more fun than probably most other Star Trek films, but way more dumbed down than any of the others. A part of me really hated seeing Kirk depicted like some swaggering fratboy.

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  • You sound half drunk.

  • Considering that being assimilated is like being raped and indoctrinated, it's kinda silly to think Picard could just get over it in just a single episode. We see Picard confront the borg like a rape victim confronting the rapist. Combine the fact that he lost the last Enterprise because he wasn't there, and you see why it's almost unthinkable to sacrifice the Enterprise to of all people, the Borg. We see Picard grow as a charcter as he confronts, and then lets go of his feelings for revenge.

  • thank you, for your incisive and funny criticism!

  • Data getting shot by the machine gun reminded me of T2

  • 0:41 reverse is PRICELESS!

  • To be honest, with the clothes. Mid 21st century is extremely vague for another reason.

    You say mid 20th and you could have anything from a hippie costume to a suit and tie. You could be donned out in Russian ushankas with a vietnamese peasant outfit or be replicated a cowboy hat, some skin tight jeans and a flannel shirt. Extremely vague.

  • Plinkett=God

  • Well, from what I can concur from any GOOD time travel plots, a time machine can only travel back in time to a location if it is in the location that it wants to go back or forward to. For instance, the BTTF series.

  • @indianajoneszilla Do you mean 'infer'? "Concur" means to agree with something. Anywho, he's not saying they should have time-travelled from someplace else to earth's past, he's saying they should have time-travelled to the past in another location to that same location in the past, and then just travel to earth without having to deal with the existence of a Federation fleet. Time-travelling doesn't stop them from moving once they're in the past, does it?

  • @WalterLiddy No, what I was saying was that maybe they can only go back in time in one spot. Maybe that's why they HAD to come to earth: They can only go back in time if they are AT the spot in which they would like to go. I reiterate; BTTF series.

    BTW, thanks for the grammar fix.

  • Hey Plinkett, if I help you milk your cat, can I get a whole box of Totino's pizzuh rolls mailed to my house?! Thanks!

  • The part at 8:19 gets me every time. "Who said that?"

  • Face it. You just hate the Next Generation crew, Plinkett, you ass! First Contact was freakin' AWESOME!

    Btw, the Borg never got that close to Earth in the TV show. Don't you think the sight of a Borg ship so close to Earth might set of Picard just a little bit??

  • @LukeLovesRose about every single point he makes is solid, and with that many points, especially the one about the borg not chosing to travel back in time and then go to earth is simply something that destroys a movie for me when i realize it. to big a plot point.

  • does this guy like any movies?

  • @nvk1001 He obviously likes Citizen Kane, he mentions it numerous times in his reviews.

  • @nvk1001 Star Trek (2009) ^^

  • lol, 2:52 scared me

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  • Man, First Contact was great. That's it.

    *watches rest of review*

  • Yer, how bout replicating machine guns or even having them on board ready for borg attacks, they seem to do the job! "whats that mr borg? You want to assemelate me? Well, have both barrels of my 12 gauge IN THE FACE YOU F##KER"

  • LOL on the "No odo" part.

  • 08:20 Obviously, the "Grunge"-Look will be the mainstream-clothing 40 years from now.

  • 2:25 DON´T MESS WITH THE ISS. BEcause.....she´s INTERNATIONAL.....THEIR SCIENCE LAB IS GERMAN!!!!!

  • It would have been be a nice project, not to made another "Borg invading the earth" movie but a "what happened with Picard in the scenes we didn´t seen in "Best of both worlds".

    To bring the Tv-episodes into a movie would have been a nice challenge for a director. And perhaps it would have been the best ST movie ever.

  • This review has ruined the movie for me. I was about 13 when I first saw it and I always had fond memories of it because I didn't see all the problems it had at the time. Then I watched this review and thought "well, there is some pretty stupid stuff in this movie, but it wasn't really that bad overall, was it?" Then I bought a DVD (used, thankfully) and realized it was.

    Sometimes the price of enlightenment is high, but thank you Red Letter Media all the same. I love all your reviews.

  • i thought JJTrek was alright but god damn i hate time travel plots

  • I watched this some months ago because I hadn't seen it yet. I like the tv TNG episodes, but the movies have always disappointed me. This one I don't even remember well even though I saw it recently - if that tells you anything.

    Generally, it was ok, but it's hard to reconcile their tv personas with their movie counterparts. When you compare them to other sci-fi movies, they all short for some reason. I think it's because there's a gap between the tv and the movie studios.

  • Does this guy like anything.

  • @SolidSnake032486 He likes the NEWEST Star Trek, but only as a guilty pleasure, just like his lovely, lovely grand-daughter. He also mentions liking a whole bunch of other movies and directors at the beginning of his "Star Wars: Phantom Menace" review in comparison to how awful a director George Lucas was at the time.

  • "...its a dumbed down, dumb action movie".

    Exactly.

  • im no trekky, but the movie was good - this is even better, lovin your humor

  • Awesome review x)

  • OK, now I remember why I subbed. This was hilarious! I'm off to watch the other parts.

  • As much as I love First Contact I agree it's basically a dumb action movie.

    But I thought the idea with Picard knowing where to shoot was that the cube was damaged, and he could hear the Borg's voices, and THAT's how he knew which area was the most vulerable. Not that he knew of any particular weakness beforehand.

  • Plinkett, a better question you should ask is, WTF! Why would the borg attack the heart of the federation with only one cube, when in fact, they have hundreds of thousands of cubes, and tens of billions of drones?!

  • Is it Ted Levine doin the review?

  • Actually I would argue that the ISS could defend us for a while from the Borg. It would put up a decent fight against them. Then our ground forces could finish up the job against the limited number of Borg that land on the planet.

  • you guy are one funny guy

  • Star Wars Episode III is now on YouTube!! /watch?v=3Uy_k2qv8K8

  • The Borg Picard dealt with in I,Borg and Descent were individuals. First Contact is the first time he has had to deal with the "real" Borg again like the ones from Best of Both Worlds.

  • I'll explain later, no wait, I'll explain now.

  • A single Defiant isn't meant to go against the Borg, they're meant to attack as a team.

  • okay, off the bat, the borg don't want to tamper with time unless completely necessary. rather keep the timeline intact and win. the queen was using sex to tempt data.... also deep space 9 sucks, i disown it from star trek. You can beam up people using shield oscillation with less than .25 miliseconds... details of clothes is unnecessary,

  • Redlettermedia, your reviews are normally awesome, but star trek first contact is one of my favorite movies. Keep in mind this comment is before watching your review, but right off the bat you saying it's one of the worst movies of all time is a red flag.

  • Nah. I liked FC alot.

    One of my favorite ST films.

  • If Sisko had been in it then the film would of been amazing! Leave Sisko on the ship fighting then they could of just done a little change and given him the same story about fighting the borg I mean they killed his wife and he was angry for like ages!

  • Are "Generations" and "Baby Geniuses" still the worst movies ever

    or is that now "Crystal Skull" and "Last Airbender"

  • ODO looks nice :)

  • I bet worf yells that at his wife "PREPARE FOR RAMMING SPEED!"

  • @Doctalen eewww

  • I hate the Borgs. They are the most silly aliens I know. I mean, they are just cyborgs and then also called Borg. How silly is this?

  • The real reason we have the Defiant without Sisko is, of course, if Sisko were there, there would only be the Defiant killing the Borg cube, and the words THE END. :-)

    Note Sisko NEVER lets Worf within ten feet of the command console after this.....

  • @williamskidfears You're wrong, Sisko's mere presence would have made the Borg shit their pants and hightail it back to the Delta Quadrant.  I mean, you don't fuck with the guy who punched Q in the face.

  • The Defiant did pretty well actually, they were there from the start of the fight right until the end.

  • If Starfleet for some reason doubted Picard's stability, it would have ordered Riker to take command and have the Ent-E join the battle. It wouldn't have left its flagship out of a battle to save Earth just to spare Picard's feelings.

    Also, the introduction of the Queen with an individual personality and a sexual drive was a total fail and helped ruin the Borg. I hate you, Rick Berman.

  • @ion010101 I came to the same conclusion. Also u forgot star fleets judgement of outsiders. The official state sci-fi of an Orwellian nation, of exterminating 1000s of people, then high State-run farms as they say, "We ended poverty and hunger!" yeah by reducing the population, government seizing land, etc...

  • I used to really like Star trek, The next Generation, but then I got increasingly annoyed with the sweet politically-correct attitude of EVERYTHING! I would actually hate living in the StarTrek world because it would be so bloody antiseptically boring and non controversial. What kinda of a life is that?

    I`d probably join the Borg just to jazz things up a bit.

    I went back to liking the original star Trek cos girls were sexy and nobody minded.

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  • I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is a good review and all, but this guy sounds like an Elcor from Mass Effect. All he needs to do is explain what emotion he's about to not emote.

  • Plinkett complains about Picard suddenly having a deep-seated rage against the Borg that he didn't have before, but keep in mind this has been done with Kirk too. Kirk's son was killed by Klingons and he was relatively unaffected by it. Then in Star Trek VI he suddenly has this strong prejudice against all Klingons.