Voennoe Delo: Soviet/Russian 152mm howitzer MSTA-B (English subtitles)

[Kastelvani]

Dear Santa Clause.....

[mchief190]

I always wondered, why are modern Russian howitzers 152mm? Is it to counter the 155mm of Western howitzers?

Silly question yeah but just wondered :p

[BitnikGr]

@mchief190 For the same reason that their tank guns are 125mm and not 120.

In order to NOT have compatibility with Western rounds :)

[BitnikGr]

@mchief190 Actually, the reality is different and it lays in history even before WW I.

First of all, to be exact, Russian howitzers are not exactly 152mm, but 152.4mm.

In dawn of howitzers era, Russian Empire was buying several examples from European countries. Including British and French howitzers. In order to evaluate them and then create their own model. But factory equipment was bought from UK. And turning from Imperial to Metric units you'll get 0,3clbr = 7.62mm. 3inch gun = 76.2mm...

[BitnikGr]

@mchief190 ... 6inch gun=152.4mm.

Actually even UK and the USA in World War I had 6inch howitzers. Only France had their own 155mm howitzers. So, probably, when UK and the USA got involved in WW I and they meet French howitzers, they adopted this 155mm caliber. Before WW II, France, UK, and the USA already had 155 howitzers. :)

So, it actually doesn't have anything to do with countering of something against something else :)

[Breakerchase]

Little question: What would the difference in combat roles be between howitzers like this, and field guns like the 2A36 Giatsint-B?

[BitnikGr]

@Breakerchase Difference between a field gun and howitzer is only in elevation angle of the gun. Giatsint-B has an elevation angle of 54dgrs, and Msta-B has - 70dgrs. Basically, the cannons themselves are very similar.

Combat roles assigned to a field gun: suppression and destruction of enemy personnel, fire positions and armored vehicles, which are on march, in places of concentration and on heavy defensive positions.

For howitzers it is the same with above plus: counter battery fire,

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[Breakerchase]

@BitnikGr

Alright, thanks! :D

[BitnikGr]

@Breakerchase ...

(suppression/destruction of enemy artillery, tactical missiles, mortars), suppression/destruction of air defences (AA artillery, Anti-Ballistic defences) and destruction of centers of command.

That's about combat roles.

MSTA-B is also easier in use compared to Giatsint-B.

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I've just uploaded a video about MSTA-S, if you are interesting.

/watch?v=M5pkTji_Exg

Differences with Giatsint-S are move obvious.

[jpvalve]

pirates of caribean music lol lmao rofl fail :DD



[BitnikGr]

@jpvalve PoC music is cool! :)

You fail :)))

[jpvalve]

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[locolopelocolope]

At last with english subtitles !

Thanks, great video  !

[BitnikGr]

@locolopelocolope Thank you :)

Enjoy!

[PATRONSKiii]

Oh, i thought it spoke about MSTA self propeled gun lol

It's an impressive gun, russia always had the best artillery, during ww2 they had the most numerous and powerful artillery, the litteraly smashed the nazis, berlin.

Today, nothing hhas changerd, while USA is satisfied by only SPAAG M109 and only rocket laucher "MLRS", russia has 2 types of 152mm SPAAG, 2 types of 120, one reserve 122, 122, 270 and 330mm rocket launcher system, mounted on several kind of hull... Great russia !

[BitnikGr]

@PATRONSKiii I don't know if such diversification is good. I would say that it would be better to have one system per caliber. They have more than one in service per caliber including older systems which are already out of production, but still are in service.

[BitnikGr]

@PATRONSKiii By the way I just uploaded "VD" episode about MSTA-S and its western counterparts.

[PATRONSKiii]

@BitnikGr Cool, i really like these videos