They didn't nerf it.... They corrected a glitch it had for brutes. It's supposed to detoggle when mez'd because it's a partial offensive power. Brutes rttc did not. They fixed that.
Everyone has been saying that for a long time. The reason it hasn't been changed is because WP is a VERY overpowered class. It's on the same level of OP-ness as Regen is to scrappers. Just like there are some dumb things about regen, neither WP or Regen will (or should) ever be made better without first making everything else better.
Plain and simple, it's a weakness. Willpower has the fewest weaknesses of any class in thew game. At least it has one.
I see, although the leaping pool gives some good def don't you think you could have choosen maybe other pool like speed for hasten which contributes alot when it comes to perma rage for example and since perhaps you already have fighting (which gives the same type of def etc as the leaping pool). Or is it because you needed the def of leaping pool so you can become "tougher" and be able to withstand 6 gm?
This toon is obviously a PvE toon. It already has well beyond perma rage, it stays double raged for a good while. As for increasing that, that also means you have more rage drops. The faster you use rage, the more often you have rage drops. Which isn't good for a pve tanker. There's no valid reason to have hasten on this toon. Next, Combat Jumping does not give the same defense as Weave. Yes, the reason to get CJ is because you need it to get SJ and for +Def.
I guess that's true for soloing, but I do not see a need if you're teaming as a level 50. I have a 50 willpower/fire and do just fine without Tough and Weave, I can also solo just fine as well, granted I can't take that many monsters, but when would you actually need to?
Not quite. Willpower is VERY dependent on it's regeneration. Regeneration is very dependent on Hit Points. Tankers have higher base Hit Points. The tanker in this video has 3212 HP, which is the tanker cap. Although that's the same cap as a brute, brutes have nearly 400 base hp less than tankers. The tanker in the video has 108 hp/sec regeneration WITH ONLY ONE FOE NEARBY. The best I could do on a wp brute is mid-80's.
I see, I guess if it was a brute with the same lvl and slotting, enhancement, etc in the video it would have probably died when it gets to that point when SoW wears off.
I'm making either a ss/wp brute or wp/ss tanker but can't decide which one to make, only for pve, so far this video helped me alot to see how a tanker can take extreme beating. Too bad there is no brute video like this to compare and contrast. Nonetheless great video
In short, a WP brute can not take this kind of beating. It can take a beating, but not 6 GM's worth. The best I can compare for you is in pvp.
As of 2 months ago, I had the best Scrapper on Virtue. (I haven't been playing much since then)
On my scrapper, vs. an equal WP tanker, I've gone 10-12 minutes of continuous pounding on it, before it died. But the WP tanker couldn't do much of any damage to me.
On my scrapper, it takes me about 7-8 minutes to kill it. But the brute can hurt me. FURY!
man another will/ss lol all the willpowers are super strength i made fire for aoes because im making him mainly for like lots of herding but idk might go ss
SS's Foot Stomp is the best tanker AoE attack, without competition. It has the best radius of any attack, only Stone Melee's Tremor has the same radius. But it's damage is far superior to Tremor. Although any secondary could work for willpower, SS is certainly a good choice for pve, and even better for pvp.
you can read it as many times as you want..but it didnt say you were running anything but SoW so i was just saying about the other powers on..really idc if you had 25 lucks going..lol and to quote you "I never used an inspiration, accolade, or anything besides SoW" lol YOU GO READ WHAT YOU WROTE, you said all you used was SoW..HAHAHA lier
Got a good build. Not using hardly any endur and barly taking any damage. Nice job
blkhwk93 2 years ago
Your WP tank is excellent! I can do this with my invul tank. But I can't get my WP tank's numbers up high enough! What are your IO sets?
lbv1978 2 years ago
one last question with the leaping pool if you don't mind. since you took that pool do you recommend taking acrobatic also? or just the cj is enough?
BluesDesert 2 years ago
I'm having trouble seeing your connection between CJ and Acro.
CJ gives +jump, but more importantly +def
Acro gives +KB Res and +Hold Res
Tankers in pve (for the most part) don't get knocked back or held...
Do you even read the power descriptions? This question is silly.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
hey just another question, does your rttc still work fine? like the same? because i heard that they nerfed rttc just not sure if its true or not
Ladykiller245 2 years ago
They didn't nerf it.... They corrected a glitch it had for brutes. It's supposed to detoggle when mez'd because it's a partial offensive power. Brutes rttc did not. They fixed that.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
Seriously that is very stupid. Rttc only have what? 3% tohit debuff rofl they should just take it off because rttc is truly what defines wp.
Btw just out of curiosity what are the power pools did u choose for this tanker?
BluesDesert 2 years ago
Everyone has been saying that for a long time. The reason it hasn't been changed is because WP is a VERY overpowered class. It's on the same level of OP-ness as Regen is to scrappers. Just like there are some dumb things about regen, neither WP or Regen will (or should) ever be made better without first making everything else better.
Plain and simple, it's a weakness. Willpower has the fewest weaknesses of any class in thew game. At least it has one.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
Fighting, Fitness, Concealment, and Leaping (For the +Def)
paixofsparta 2 years ago
I see, although the leaping pool gives some good def don't you think you could have choosen maybe other pool like speed for hasten which contributes alot when it comes to perma rage for example and since perhaps you already have fighting (which gives the same type of def etc as the leaping pool). Or is it because you needed the def of leaping pool so you can become "tougher" and be able to withstand 6 gm?
BluesDesert 2 years ago
This toon is obviously a PvE toon. It already has well beyond perma rage, it stays double raged for a good while. As for increasing that, that also means you have more rage drops. The faster you use rage, the more often you have rage drops. Which isn't good for a pve tanker. There's no valid reason to have hasten on this toon. Next, Combat Jumping does not give the same defense as Weave. Yes, the reason to get CJ is because you need it to get SJ and for +Def.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
I think you forgot that YURGAY!
Sponge3737 2 years ago
is it necessary to get tough and weave?
unstoppablesgm 2 years ago
Tough, YES (Yes, yes, yes)
Weave, for the most part.
Willpower becomes this powerful when you have high defense. Weave gives good defense, you can use it.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
I guess that's true for soloing, but I do not see a need if you're teaming as a level 50. I have a 50 willpower/fire and do just fine without Tough and Weave, I can also solo just fine as well, granted I can't take that many monsters, but when would you actually need to?
unstoppablesgm 2 years ago
Nice vid :D
but how have you slotted?
Stefanoloco126 2 years ago
IO Sets aiming for capped HP (Once you hit cap, move on), regeneration and defense.
Yes, defense. People think WP is a dmg res powerset but that's because they aren't very smart. (I'll continue next reply)
paixofsparta 2 years ago
paixofsparta 2 years ago
Ty :)
Stefanoloco126 2 years ago
super cool! tyvm
Ladykiller245 2 years ago
can a ss/wp brute stand this much beating if it had like same slotting and enhancement with this tanks build? probably?
Ladykiller245 2 years ago
Not quite. Willpower is VERY dependent on it's regeneration. Regeneration is very dependent on Hit Points. Tankers have higher base Hit Points. The tanker in this video has 3212 HP, which is the tanker cap. Although that's the same cap as a brute, brutes have nearly 400 base hp less than tankers. The tanker in the video has 108 hp/sec regeneration WITH ONLY ONE FOE NEARBY. The best I could do on a wp brute is mid-80's.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
I see, I guess if it was a brute with the same lvl and slotting, enhancement, etc in the video it would have probably died when it gets to that point when SoW wears off.
I'm making either a ss/wp brute or wp/ss tanker but can't decide which one to make, only for pve, so far this video helped me alot to see how a tanker can take extreme beating. Too bad there is no brute video like this to compare and contrast. Nonetheless great video
Ladykiller245 2 years ago
In short, a WP brute can not take this kind of beating. It can take a beating, but not 6 GM's worth. The best I can compare for you is in pvp.
As of 2 months ago, I had the best Scrapper on Virtue. (I haven't been playing much since then)
On my scrapper, vs. an equal WP tanker, I've gone 10-12 minutes of continuous pounding on it, before it died. But the WP tanker couldn't do much of any damage to me.
On my scrapper, it takes me about 7-8 minutes to kill it. But the brute can hurt me. FURY!
AllieMO86 2 years ago
man another will/ss lol all the willpowers are super strength i made fire for aoes because im making him mainly for like lots of herding but idk might go ss
CYCI0N3 2 years ago
SS's Foot Stomp is the best tanker AoE attack, without competition. It has the best radius of any attack, only Stone Melee's Tremor has the same radius. But it's damage is far superior to Tremor. Although any secondary could work for willpower, SS is certainly a good choice for pve, and even better for pvp.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
well he has tough and weave on and combat jumping and looks like steath and probly had the teir 9 power running too
alienbot23 2 years ago
All of the above, and as far as SoW goes, read the description please.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
you can read it as many times as you want..but it didnt say you were running anything but SoW so i was just saying about the other powers on..really idc if you had 25 lucks going..lol and to quote you "I never used an inspiration, accolade, or anything besides SoW" lol YOU GO READ WHAT YOU WROTE, you said all you used was SoW..HAHAHA lier
alienbot23 2 years ago
Wow, you're really dumb.
paixofsparta 2 years ago
he never fucking said he just used SoW he said he used it to make it easier to round them up and take damage you dumbass
UndeadTinCan 2 years ago
wow nice job ! but how have you slotted your char?
Stefanoloco126 2 years ago
I have set IO's, like all my characters. I'd post the mids data box, but it won't fit. In short, it's a complex build.
paixofsparta 2 years ago