According to Robert Fisk in his book "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East", pp.484,488–489, Israeli defence minister at that time Ariel Sharon and Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan met with the Lebanese Phalangist militia units, inviting them to enter the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps and telling them the PLO fighters were responsible for the assassination of their leader Bashir Gemayel. This is the core information that was neglected/distorted in this movie.
The movie is about the human experience of war, can't you put your ethnic biases aside even for something that talks about the pain those biases bring for all sides?
I enjoy movies that remind us that soldiers are human.
Youve ever been to Israel, the West Bank or the Gaza Strip? I've never entered Gaza but I went as close to the border as possible. The elected government of Gaza, the Hamas shoots one Rocket daily at Israel. What would the French do if Belgium would attack them every day?
@VivaLaBahiaPirata Because they stole part of Great Syria to make a Reign, and then 1654 years when they were taken out of Great Syria they started atacking palestine again, this time supported with military equipment and acceptance of the puppet organization of the ONU.
Ah... now I know what you mean: it's the same like in WW II when Germany invaded Poland and after Germany was defeated the Polish bastards stole a part of Great Germany. *sarkasm off*
@Darktemplar99999 How Many israeli's does it take to kill 3000 palestinian woman&children in Sabra and Shatila refugee camps camps in beirut 1982?
none....the isreali army simply surrounded the camps, lit it up with flares for 3 nights& watched as the lebanese christians falanges murdered women &children under the IDF command noses, pleas from reporters and IDF soldiers were ignored as the killing went on. Oh we didnt kill the lamp, we just held it in place while they slaughtered it.
I don't understand how anyone can come out after watching this movie without a deep resentment of American/Israeli imperialism and war crimes.
And this was a brilliant movie, a true masterpeice 5/5.
Lastly it is important to remember Israel is a disgrace to Israelis, and by no means represents the Jewish people. There are countless Jews who are apalled by Israel's atrocities, opression, and massacre of a defenseless people, living under foreign occupation.
@PersianMarxist i thought this movie was pretty politically neutral. it's more of an introspective analysis on conflict, defense mechanisms and human nature rather than the policies of two specific countries.
It's a shame that people are bored enough to post "Free Palestine" all over the net instead of going on to actually DO something with their poor life, which are already torn apart because of child abuse and them being inbred.
So they can't do anything with their lives and decide to post spam all over the webz so people will think they actually have an opinion about something they don't know shit in.
WOW! This movie is so good. I think all people who are forced to kill other living creatures (people or dogs) have to be messed up. It' s not in our nature to kill. Only psychopaths can do it and go to sleep as if nothing happened. It makes me sad to think of all these young people out there killing "before they even shaved". A must see. Also see "Taking Chance".
It kinda is in our nature to kill if you look at how cain killed abel and then at all the wars man has had in its time killing has been apart of human life almost forever its not just psychopaths who can kill and go on killing is sadly something that gets easier to do as over the time you do the longer you do the more you start to adapt to it not that that wont mess youre mind up tho
Maybe its not in you I had a good number of family members that went to war and killed people and maybe ppl before that.you're ppl where maybe ppl who didn't let blood touch their hands but their is a time when you should kill if i have to kill to live longer and survive i will if you want to die instead of kill then that's you.
Tell you what, if someone threatened my family I'd kill them with my own hands. If someone invaded my county, I'd shoot them down.
Funny thing is, killing someone in cold blood isn't right, you gotta have something wrong with you. Killing for survival and protection is hardwired in the human condition, try to resist killing an oppressive force, imposed religion or an intruder in your home.
Mother protecting their infants are ready to sacrifice everything to make sure no harm comes the kid.
I don't know, people have been killing since the dawn of man. Though I'm sure they also weren't too excited about it. But then there's still the Vikings and other warriors that had little respect for the people they killed. I guess that just means there will always killers. Psychos, and people that need to kill.
Yes, it's one of Chopin's Waltz's, but it's not on the main soundtrack of the movie. ON the soundtrack they just have the Bach track that's played during the psychological experiment scene and the RPG shooting child scene.
This film blew me away when I saw some months ago, and the cinema went completely silent in the final scene, and I've never experienced an errie awe like that before. Breathtaking.
..i experienced the same thing: everyone fell silence in the theater while we starred 'speechless' at the last minutes of this great movie. mind-blowing peace of art!!
Hey, I think you commenters are getting all wrong. This is a movie about experiences, not a series of political statements so you can discuss.
Ari Folman made something so incredibly beautiful with such horrific material to start.
Only enlighted and wise people can reach that point, where they´re able to transform their true life nightmares and give back to the world this amazing piece of art and humanism.
I agree. But once past is unavoidable, and what´s done cannot be undone, I cannot imagine a better thing to do.
What I´ve seen in "normal" (I don´t mean inferior) people which been through these horrors, is denial by different paths. Some people hide behind the so called glorification of sacrifice. Others hold on very tight and agressively to a flag, and its principles. And some others live just because simply they´re not dead. Yeah, it´s sad that something like this has to exist.
Do you not remember Damour Lebanon. Let me remind you. Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into "massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages of looting and killings. Out of a population of 3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently maimed
This is beautiful and yet depressing. Makes me think of how tragic war must be. Here, on something as banale as the internet, we are young people from many different countries...
Let's not start any wars against each other, friends? We may speak different languages and have different flags... but we are all one.
Funny that a massacre committed by some zionist mad dogs plus some demonic fundamental christian milicas in lebanon against the innocent palestinians in Sabra and Shatella becomes the surprizingly just mere dreams or an adventure of some young jewish boys working out their big american weapons and tanks..so dreaming heh?..well wake up to the reality then...here is a link of the actual massacre that happened in 1982...hope u all find the clip pleasing
OH SOOOOOOOOOOO Sensitive..so what about israel displacings and killings in 48 and colonozing their lands and the lies spun about that...israel planned the massacres in 48 to achieve a nation of majority before even it declaired its independence. it just hoped that the palestinians reaction would show that planned crimes to be an action of retailation, pals only went for a strike of 3 days when israel declaired independence. that wasn't enough for israel to sell it action but decided to proceed
with the plan anyways....villagers and citizens were kicked out of cities and villages by force, and their homes were destroyed to cleanse the whole site for the new israel for the elite jewish majority..others were killed by the haganah to scare neighbours and friends and drive them to flee their homes...when the arab countries reacted to such actions of agression by declairing war on israel, israel sold to the world that it actually was a victim not the criminal...Palesrinains never thought
that the madness of the colonizing nations that formed the UN (a post WW2 organization formed to serve the interests of the allies(colonizers))- by giving 50% of the land to a populance that actually owned only 7% would result in that fate..they will be kicked off their homes, terrorized and killed if need be to sway the road for the new israel for the elite exclusive jewish minority. seems they where a little naive and thought the UN(i.e. the brits, and the french and the americans) can never
Israel declared Independence and was attacked. On May 15, one day after the creation of the State of Israel, the Arab armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon invaded the new Jewish state.
The Arab leaders told their people to leave and after the defeat of Israel they could all come back to their homes. The ones who stayed, became Israeli Citizens. The ones who fled, ended up in refugee camps.
It's time for Palestinians to finally accept Israel and live in peace.
nop habibi that's the history THEY teach you in Tel AVIV, but the real story is the arab arnies did not attack until your newy formed zionist (LIER) government unleashed a campain of eathnic cleansing and terror among the pals...the state the moving swifty and quickly through its plans to create a state OF A MAJORITY OF JEW...yes ethnic cleansing like that happened in bosnia where people where driven to leave their homes by militants, u can sell u kid version of the story to the west not to us:)
What about israel denyomh them their rights to return to their cities and homes? what about the lies that there was actually no palestine or palestinians? what about palestine never existed? what about lies about them being jordainains who only moved in with the arab armies? what about racism and 60 years of tyranny and lies? what about prejudice, racism, and abusing relegions in a struggle that was never relegious and is all about a crime that needs justice to be served?
nothing you said was true, though. with the establishment of Israel, the arabs were told over the radio and through propaganda to leave the country BY ARABS, who promised the jews would be pushed into the sea. others left out of fear, and yes, some where ejected by force... but there was force used on both sides, and the arab armies would have done much worse if they had their way.
The question is not only how Arabs (Christians and Muslims) were pushed out of their cities, towns and villages. The question is also about why they were NOT ALLOWED TO RETURN?
There is not justification of that, and if they are allowed to return and live equally with the Settlers then life would be much better and the conflict would be almost soved.
for the most part, these were people who left hoping to return to a jew-less land. even the ones who stayed aren't inclined to be there. Why should Israel allow such dissonance within their own borders? the history isn't pretty, but to let all the people who hate israel back in now would be stupid for the state. it was established as a jewish state, and although it doesn't discriminate (in theory...), that doesn't mean it should sacrifice itself to the people who left anyway.
Well I don't understand; why will you allow people who want less Native Palestinians to already exist in Israel but you don't allow all Palestinian refugees to return assuming that all of them want a "Jew-less state"? If Israel is really a democratic state then it would be more strange not to allow people to return.
i see where you're coming from, but israel and its israelis want to keep its jewish identity. there's muslim, hindu, and christian states, and israel wants a religious identity too. this would not be fair if there were a majority muslim population which there would definitely be (israeli development since its creation has made the land much more developed than the land around it). european countries do the same thing when they try to keep their "identity", and the U.S. used to do the same thing.
i wonder whether any European country made millions of refugees and then didn't allow them to return? In this case I can only remember one country in the 30s of the last century and you will be really sad if I mention its name. There are ways to keep an identity rather than brutal ones. Then, you can never compare Europe (dealing with new migrants from different places) and Israel ( closing the borders in the face of native people) The second case is called "ethnic cleansening"
despite what many choose to believe out of fear and hatred, the israelis are not people who want apartheid over a muslim population or worse. they just want to be able to have their own country rather than be prey to another muslim or christian country. sure, they've made mistakes, but most countries have many more, and muslims still have many more rights in israel than jews did (and do) in muslim countries. we need to work together for peace in the future, rather than despair over the past.
I agree with you.. but how can you ignore the feelings of the refugees? Think with me it's only this step and beleive me everything will be solved. You will be then in a very string position and you can even rule since you are way ahead in science and technology. levantines want to live in peace as well.. thye are bored of wars and tensions...
its not that simple, though. a return of that many refugees would be the end of israel, and although that is what many people want, it's definitely not what israel wants. the insistence on this right is what's keeping the palestinian people in endless turbulence. if the palestinian state is achieved, then those refugees will have a place to go rather than camps in lebanon and jordan and elsewhere. but for the state to be formed the leaders have to get their act together and stop blaming the past
The only problem with that is, right now the state of israel is majority jewish. So they are in "control" over israel. If they decide to let palestinian's in (which should be their right, being that it was their land), They would have to compromise with the palestinian's. And for some reason (greed) the jews aren't willing to do that. So now the PLO has to take extreme measures against Israeli's, earning the condemnation of Israel backing western countries, creating the cluster fuck we have now.
my friend, greed is what you call PLO officials pocketing money from israel meant for the palestinian people. greed is the continuance of a fight that keeps the palestinians impoverished, rather than commiting your resources to building a state in the copious amounts of land given. greed is hamas using people as human sheilds.
of course theres greed on the israeli side (west bank settlements?) but the palestinians have their own problems to settle.
you act like the "extreme measures" will accomplish anything. if there's anything so certain in this conflict, it's that moderates on both sides will end it, not the crazies you hold to be heroes.
all this anti-zionism might not be anti-semitism, but it is interesting that people love to condemn israel when millions are dying all over the world. those are catastrophes, but you'd rather ignore those people and attack the jews first.
israel has problems, but leave your biases in the middle ages.
i know that this still won't make everyone happy, and make jews and muslims become best of allies. they don't have to be friends, but there has to be an end to this violence and discontent. from there, who knows what can be achieved in the future. but an end to the violence and a state both the jews and the muslims is a start to a process that will take generations. but it needs to happen immediately.
first of all all of the orignal pepole how ran away when israelwas crated are dead its the children thet whant back in bu there is 6 milion of them thats the problem
Well, their fathers or granfathers who once left it's only 50 years and you're denying their rights of return.. the Jews were out of Palestine for thousands of years (that if you are one of their descendant really..)...
mzkaddah, you need to seriously calm down and try to start finding allies on the "other" side instead of just playing out the screaming match that's been going on for decades between supporters on both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict. Here we have a movie that gives you some insight into the hearts of your "enemies", and you just can't realize what its trying to do. As long as you paint this conflict in black and white, there will always be a conflict. There is humanity on both sides.
Exactly Mr. Tinkernator...u are a wise man..you made a point...that you enemies are humans too and I do realize that...but I will never watch a movi like that in 10000 years..know why? becuase I don't want to fall in love with my enemy, enough damage is done by hollywood and its movies...now we can't tell if america is a friend or and enemy..we will never allow isael to get to our hearts UNTIL the TRUTH is Explicitly shown in their movies and we get our FULL RIGHTS BACK. thanks for smart comment
Someone has to take the first steps towards peace. This movie is a step in that direction. It's not perfect, but do try to understand that it questions the underlying morality of the war - that's something to work with. You might think of all Israelis as black-and-white enemies, but they're not, and neither are Arabs to them. As long as you see the conflict in such absolute terms you cause the conflict to drag on indefinitely.
Thinkernator...I only can understand these equations
X drove Y out of his home on the tip of a gun = X is a criminal
X sold lies that he never did that = X is a lier
X killed Y when he tried to defend his property, family and home = X is a Murrderer
X died (BTW he didn't, zionism is still the breathing life in israel) but he had kids who believed X was a rightous dad and this tyranny against Y is justified becuase he is/was trying to protect them from Y = War with X and his kids
Y = is not going to forgive and forget until the kids of X confess that their family actually did wrong to Y, and their dad was a lier in all senses including spreading rumors about this war being about relgions not about Justice for Y that is craving to be served.
Y = is not morally or relegiouslt better that X but he has a cause, with is not backed by most of the so claimed "civilized world" or "the international community" or lets call it the proper name "the colonizing community"...well
JUSTICE IS JUSTICE PEOPLE IT CAN'T BE DIVIDED for the sake of YAWHEH, ALLAH, JESUS or HIS FATHER. A Crime gone unpunished can't be a good basis for long lasting peace..Thinknator..the big illusion that is sold about this conflict that "IT HAS TWO POINTS OF VIEWS"..man justice only has one point of View..the woman's eyes are blinded and the tip of the balance is falling to ONLY ONE SIDE...the side of the truth.
I have nothing against jews.. but Sacred is of the type that insults his own people because he loves israel.. me myself im not from israel. but im not going to respect an israel who disappoints his brother for an arab.. its the same.
-i dont have political reviews. Im talking paraphenomenoa and supernatural forces behind brotherhood disappoinment, its almost like the pharaons curse.
I have studied about the paranormal phenomenones and spiritualities, despite im just an engineer. And i have learned with experience that if you will have your own people darn you whether you are a jew/muslim/christian.. then you won't find peace in your life anymore. The israeli pilot who defected to israel in 1989 had a job and may had few years of peaceful life. Now he's in the israeli jails after charges for being a thief.
God bless the Pahalangists, God bless the Lebanese Forces, God bless the Gusrdians of the Cedars...and God bless our Israeli brothers and sisters in the IDF. We thank you all for helping us Lebanese.
i have sighted you on channels before saying u lebaneese and israelis are classy and blah blah.. i have a better insight of israel thinking.. yes they want to live in peace.. they want to gain friendship as a best way to live in peace but not to the very degree to be ur brothers.. you as a lebaneese u gross them out,, just as they gross arabs out.. so do not over react.. because u gross me out.. me as a very moderate
that may be what you think, but no one cares about what you think, because you are ignorant and stupid. very moderate? haha, what a load of crap. You are a joke. You are very moderate, so long as everyone thinks the same way as you....pathetic.
and i think you are wrong. I know exactly where my words are going :) I like what i say, and i say what i like. Israel saved Lebanon many times. You people so not realise that. Moderates and neither here nor there...they are total mush. Get off the fence. Control my speech? hahaha. You think speech is fine as long as it agrees with you. That's the language of the Left. I laught at people like you.
My english is beautiful, but i don't bother reading back and correcting what i wrote cuz i don't actually care about doing that. You understand what i am saying and that's all that matters :)
Saad Haddad died in the early 80's of cancer. He was a great man. The Lebanese Forces gave their weapons to the Lebanese govt when the war ended, as did the other militias, except of course for the traitors hizbollah. The only weapons the LF etc keep now are held by individuals in their own homes in case the need arose for self defence. Although i am sure many are buying more arms, since hizbollah keep threatening other Lebanese.
i think you are right, and i feel it's all because of syria and hizbollah. They refuse to let the government govern. They refuse to deal diplomatically with Israel. They refuse to disarm and they threaten all other Lebanese with their weapons....there will be no choice but to go to war, but it all depends on hizbollah and syria, whether they leave Lebanon alone or not....no one wants a war.
as far as we in israel know, Hizbullah under Iran is in charge in lebanon.
perhaps they are not the majority, but they are definitely the ones in charge.
i believe under christian leadership , lebanon wouldn't have been in a much better place today.
while our country seeks for nothing but living in peace, i believe chrsitians would share the goal of peace and would have brought some stability to the region.
but its just a fantasy, radical islam is incharge of lebanon...
yes, they are the most powerful at the moment. But do not be fooled into thinking that the rest of Lebanon bow down to whatever they want. They kept their militia, the rest of us disarmed. But hizbollah know damn well that they cannot take over Lebanon. Every household in Lebanon have weapons for self defence. Last year hizbollah invaded many areas of Lebanon. In the mountains hizbollah lost a few men to the Druze. They must be careful...
i have some good friends whom are druze, and they r wonderfull people, who care about nothing but minding their own business. what did hizbullah want from them???
i know how horrible it is to live in a country next to hizbullah. never thought how it is 4 the people in labanon, having to live under their regme.
ur painting a really sad picture of lebanon. i hope u'd never have to use wepons to defend urself. hope all will end peacefully.
Well currently we are locked in a political armwrestle. We do not live under their regime at all. They are trying to break away and create their own min-state, and we are preventing it from happening.
I hope it will not come to civil war again, but if we have to, like you, we will fight them back.
oh wow.......TRUTHSPEAKER...the speaker of truth !!! ......very impressed !! The world is sick of violence!!!!.........and remeber that in september 1970 the jordanian military killed about 30 000 palestinians.......you argue when muslims kill muslims ? or is it very easy and cheap to blame only the jews. By the way I'm not a jew.
On the contrary I think if anything youtube should encourage discussion/debate of this caliber in the comments. It beats 'LOL! It looks like he's dancing!!!' any day.
Yes, anti war, sensitive to the Israeli soldiers & the victims of Sabra & Shatila. But he showed that the Phalange party was the only one at fault.The guys that went into Sabra were under Elie Hobeika who disgraced the name of the Phalange.Should NOT represent who all the members of the Phalang were.They started out as young Christian guys protecting their neighborhoods especially after the Christian massacres of Damour (by Palestinian militants who happened to kill Elie's family & girlfriend).
Sabra and Shatila massacre was led by Christian militia in response to the assassination of Bashir Gemayel... The assassinater was captured, and he was found to be Christian. In short, Sabra and Shatila massacre victims paid for what they have not done.
Stop defending scums, the Phalanges committed this massacre by aid of the Israeli army... Both are scums and war criminals.
The Phalange guys who protected my neighborhood from getting massacred are the same "scum" who went into Sabra?WRONG! I'm curious, what do you call the men who massacred the innocent Christians in Damour before Sabra happened? Are they scum?I'm NOT justifying what happened in Sabra. It's a crime!Or any killing of women and children.However there is MORE to the phalage than Elie.Thank u for stating that it happened AFTER the assassination of Bashir. Meaning it was never an order made by him.
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According to Robert Fisk in his book "The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East", pp.484,488–489, Israeli defence minister at that time Ariel Sharon and Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan met with the Lebanese Phalangist militia units, inviting them to enter the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps and telling them the PLO fighters were responsible for the assassination of their leader Bashir Gemayel. This is the core information that was neglected/distorted in this movie.
Diala80 7 months ago
I always loved this scene...
DOPPELMOVEMENT 8 months ago
Sick clip. Fuckin awesome.
Pellizoti 10 months ago
The movie is about the human experience of war, can't you put your ethnic biases aside even for something that talks about the pain those biases bring for all sides?
I enjoy movies that remind us that soldiers are human.
dibaterman 1 year ago
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stephanie110792 1 year ago
why so many hate against palestinians?
larsgobbens 1 year ago
@larsgobbens
why do so many hate israel?
VivaLaBahiaPirata 1 year ago
@VivaLaBahiaPirata because they're basically turning gaza into a huge gas chamber
larsgobbens 1 year ago
@larsgobbens
Youve ever been to Israel, the West Bank or the Gaza Strip? I've never entered Gaza but I went as close to the border as possible. The elected government of Gaza, the Hamas shoots one Rocket daily at Israel. What would the French do if Belgium would attack them every day?
VivaLaBahiaPirata 1 year ago
@VivaLaBahiaPirata i don't know, but i do know they wouldn't bomb brussels to shit, or let 8000 unarmed civilians be killed
larsgobbens 1 year ago
@larsgobbens hey hey cool it with the gaz chamber nonsense its not something to joke about
sharonstonts 11 months ago
@VivaLaBahiaPirata Because they stole part of Great Syria to make a Reign, and then 1654 years when they were taken out of Great Syria they started atacking palestine again, this time supported with military equipment and acceptance of the puppet organization of the ONU.
Elpapi454 1 year ago
@Elpapi454
Ah... now I know what you mean: it's the same like in WW II when Germany invaded Poland and after Germany was defeated the Polish bastards stole a part of Great Germany. *sarkasm off*
VivaLaBahiaPirata 1 year ago
great movie
wrldeye12 1 year ago
Is that 3D?
Flashlight1996 1 year ago
@Flashlight1996
no it's not
VivaLaBahiaPirata 1 year ago
I like the little waltz.
Chronobeanz 2 years ago
how many palestinians does it take to replace a light bulb?
none... they just sit in the dark and blame the jews :)
good movie arry :)
Darktemplar99999 2 years ago 6
@Darktemplar99999 HEHEHE
LebnenehASLEH 2 years ago
@Darktemplar99999 How Many israeli's does it take to kill 3000 palestinian woman&children in Sabra and Shatila refugee camps camps in beirut 1982?
none....the isreali army simply surrounded the camps, lit it up with flares for 3 nights& watched as the lebanese christians falanges murdered women &children under the IDF command noses, pleas from reporters and IDF soldiers were ignored as the killing went on. Oh we didnt kill the lamp, we just held it in place while they slaughtered it.
cloudchaser07 1 year ago
@Darktemplar99999 That joke has been repeated so many times....
AND YET IT'S SO FUNNY!
Awesome movie!
owner876 1 year ago
@Darktemplar99999 How many jews does it take to replace a light bulb?
none... they just sit in the dark calling the palestinians terrorists, kill them and steal their land.
Spartan54232 1 year ago
@Spartan54232 it's a joke.
he's funny, you're not.
thevladdo 1 year ago
@thevladdo I thought we were both funny
Spartan54232 5 months ago
@Darktemplar99999 Q: How many idiots does it take to make racist statements on youtube.
A: Just one. Are you serious? It's fuckin' youtube.
AutumnDevi 11 months ago
this scene is killer !!
silversaltfilms 2 years ago
God bless Gemayel and IDF!
2912770 2 years ago
@2912770 TOO LATE FOR BOTH :(
LebnenehASLEH 2 years ago
@2912770 your disgusting
judopathoftruth 1 year ago
@judopathoftruth thanks ;)
2912770 1 year ago
frenkel u are the best my friend !!!!
12irishka 2 years ago
Incredible movie.
HufflepuffTheGreat 2 years ago 5
By far the best scene in the film! 5/5!
TomCat2800 2 years ago
I don't understand how anyone can come out after watching this movie without a deep resentment of American/Israeli imperialism and war crimes.
And this was a brilliant movie, a true masterpeice 5/5.
Lastly it is important to remember Israel is a disgrace to Israelis, and by no means represents the Jewish people. There are countless Jews who are apalled by Israel's atrocities, opression, and massacre of a defenseless people, living under foreign occupation.
PersianMarxist 2 years ago
It is clear you have NO CLUE of the movie is about ! Maybe you need to watch it a few more times . Has nothing to do with Politics !
Ronlv001 2 years ago
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You are full of shit
Littletiger2009 2 years ago
i agree with you they are shitheads
TzOsKou 2 years ago
@PersianMarxist i thought this movie was pretty politically neutral. it's more of an introspective analysis on conflict, defense mechanisms and human nature rather than the policies of two specific countries.
rhymeswithgabriel 2 years ago
its so amazing how he dances with the gun it gives me chills
kekeboy97 2 years ago 2
i saw this today on college trip, it actually wasnt that bad :d great film, dramatic ending is very effective
DemondHarris 2 years ago
It's a shame that people are bored enough to post "Free Palestine" all over the net instead of going on to actually DO something with their poor life, which are already torn apart because of child abuse and them being inbred.
So they can't do anything with their lives and decide to post spam all over the webz so people will think they actually have an opinion about something they don't know shit in.
at least that's my opinion.
Good Day Gentlemen
oh and pssst, it's a movie!
noobay 2 years ago
oh eally can we help them without getting in a war with the monster or beibg shot to death ourselves...
mzkaddah 2 years ago
meh
mza131313 2 years ago
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Bashir the Christian Warrior and the best leader of the middle east..we miss you Bash.
Maroun8 2 years ago
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Hesante 2 years ago
WOW! This movie is so good. I think all people who are forced to kill other living creatures (people or dogs) have to be messed up. It' s not in our nature to kill. Only psychopaths can do it and go to sleep as if nothing happened. It makes me sad to think of all these young people out there killing "before they even shaved". A must see. Also see "Taking Chance".
funvideofun 2 years ago 3
It kinda is in our nature to kill if you look at how cain killed abel and then at all the wars man has had in its time killing has been apart of human life almost forever its not just psychopaths who can kill and go on killing is sadly something that gets easier to do as over the time you do the longer you do the more you start to adapt to it not that that wont mess youre mind up tho
opp861 2 years ago
We're wired with a natural instinct not to kill other people, but after the first time you've been driven over, it's a whole lot easier.
Botokid 2 years ago
maybe its your nature but not mine
letthetruthbeknown9 2 years ago
Maybe its not in you I had a good number of family members that went to war and killed people and maybe ppl before that.you're ppl where maybe ppl who didn't let blood touch their hands but their is a time when you should kill if i have to kill to live longer and survive i will if you want to die instead of kill then that's you.
opp861 2 years ago
Tell you what, if someone threatened my family I'd kill them with my own hands. If someone invaded my county, I'd shoot them down.
Funny thing is, killing someone in cold blood isn't right, you gotta have something wrong with you. Killing for survival and protection is hardwired in the human condition, try to resist killing an oppressive force, imposed religion or an intruder in your home.
Mother protecting their infants are ready to sacrifice everything to make sure no harm comes the kid.
FryFubar 2 years ago 3
"I don't know who you are, where you're from, or what you want. But if you threaten my Freedom..
I'll kill you."
Opalauge88 2 years ago 2
I don't know, people have been killing since the dawn of man. Though I'm sure they also weren't too excited about it. But then there's still the Vikings and other warriors that had little respect for the people they killed. I guess that just means there will always killers. Psychos, and people that need to kill.
Rarab2 2 years ago
very nice movie... it s a very big irony from bashir gemayel and the way how he sold lebanon for the israeli army ...
FINIKYA90 2 years ago
An amazing work of art.
Loved it.
blastout11467 2 years ago 3
someone knows which waltz is in the soundtrack? I think it's Chopin, but I'm not sure.
WrednyMotylek 2 years ago
i have it on cd soundtrack
12 tracks
alyelhadad 2 years ago
I also rellay want to know what Chopin's waltz is
arturowesley2 2 years ago
cis-moll op. 64 nr.2 :)
marvikaa 2 years ago
@marvikaa thank you!
dordan666 1 year ago
Yes, it's one of Chopin's Waltz's, but it's not on the main soundtrack of the movie. ON the soundtrack they just have the Bach track that's played during the psychological experiment scene and the RPG shooting child scene.
TomCat2800 2 years ago
what's the piano solo from this scene ?
(also one of the movie themes)
smoke489 2 years ago
jsb - rpg
anonermous 2 years ago
This film blew me away when I saw some months ago, and the cinema went completely silent in the final scene, and I've never experienced an errie awe like that before. Breathtaking.
Commentism 2 years ago 3
..i experienced the same thing: everyone fell silence in the theater while we starred 'speechless' at the last minutes of this great movie. mind-blowing peace of art!!
cauza79 2 years ago 3
Whatever yout think politically...I shot a MAG in my service in the IDF... to hold that hunk of metal like that and dance like that-the guy's a tank!
ShmulikG613 2 years ago 3
He´s Frenkel...he´s nuts XD
This is one of the best animated Films, i couldn´t watch it at a theater, but it made me go all weird in the end.
Chrinik 2 years ago 9
holy crap.....thats me at paintball,just dance'n in the middle of every one shoot'n away lol
williamsharpjr 2 years ago
Hey, I think you commenters are getting all wrong. This is a movie about experiences, not a series of political statements so you can discuss.
Ari Folman made something so incredibly beautiful with such horrific material to start.
Only enlighted and wise people can reach that point, where they´re able to transform their true life nightmares and give back to the world this amazing piece of art and humanism.
elinconsciente 2 years ago 39
here here :)
oznocious 2 years ago
No, normal people can reach that point.
Any sane person already should have.
It's just that most people are incredibly stupid, so it seems intelligent.
A person who participated in such a nightmare isn't enlightened at all.
If you are a soldier it proves that your life is void and useless.
No one who agrees to fighting against his own species is right.
This is not beautiful to begin with and it certainly isn't great.
It's sad that something like this has to exist.
lynth 2 years ago
I agree. But once past is unavoidable, and what´s done cannot be undone, I cannot imagine a better thing to do.
What I´ve seen in "normal" (I don´t mean inferior) people which been through these horrors, is denial by different paths. Some people hide behind the so called glorification of sacrifice. Others hold on very tight and agressively to a flag, and its principles. And some others live just because simply they´re not dead. Yeah, it´s sad that something like this has to exist.
elinconsciente 2 years ago 2
@elinconsciente Agreed, powerful movie that disturbed me so greatly
SuperHeroMania 10 months ago
amazing how they make it look liek a modern dance/ thinig at the same type the horros of war
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
Do you not remember Damour Lebanon. Let me remind you. Arafat and the PLO plunged Lebanon into "massacres, rape, mutilation, rampages of looting and killings. Out of a population of 3.2 million, some 40,000 or more people had been killed, 100,000 wounded, 5,000 permanently maimed
aboualjamejem 2 years ago
In the RPG kid part where they are in the forest..... WHAT WAS THE SONGS NAME PLAYING PLEASE HELP!!!!!
S1nn1ngSh4d0wS 3 years ago
max richter composed the soundtrack for this movie. the song is called JSB-RPG i donwloaded the whole soundtrack torrent style...
ratmwootwoot 2 years ago
It's a Bach song, it's on the main soundtrack of the film. Basically it's during the scene that you mentioned.
TomCat2800 2 years ago
Is it possible to speak about the movie and not politics, fucking trolls ?
Thank you and fuck you
19toto 3 years ago 3
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xthexparrot 3 years ago
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xthexparrot 3 years ago
This is beautiful and yet depressing. Makes me think of how tragic war must be. Here, on something as banale as the internet, we are young people from many different countries...
Let's not start any wars against each other, friends? We may speak different languages and have different flags... but we are all one.
Schwarze69 3 years ago
Funny that a massacre committed by some zionist mad dogs plus some demonic fundamental christian milicas in lebanon against the innocent palestinians in Sabra and Shatella becomes the surprizingly just mere dreams or an adventure of some young jewish boys working out their big american weapons and tanks..so dreaming heh?..well wake up to the reality then...here is a link of the actual massacre that happened in 1982...hope u all find the clip pleasing
/watch?v=ZUtrfVsuJEU&feature=c hannel_page
mzkaddah 3 years ago
What are you TALKING about?! This movie was all about bringing attention to the massacre and this terrible conflict!
delphiote 3 years ago
OH SOOOOOOOOOOO Sensitive..so what about israel displacings and killings in 48 and colonozing their lands and the lies spun about that...israel planned the massacres in 48 to achieve a nation of majority before even it declaired its independence. it just hoped that the palestinians reaction would show that planned crimes to be an action of retailation, pals only went for a strike of 3 days when israel declaired independence. that wasn't enough for israel to sell it action but decided to proceed
mzkaddah 3 years ago
with the plan anyways....villagers and citizens were kicked out of cities and villages by force, and their homes were destroyed to cleanse the whole site for the new israel for the elite jewish majority..others were killed by the haganah to scare neighbours and friends and drive them to flee their homes...when the arab countries reacted to such actions of agression by declairing war on israel, israel sold to the world that it actually was a victim not the criminal...Palesrinains never thought
mzkaddah 3 years ago
that the madness of the colonizing nations that formed the UN (a post WW2 organization formed to serve the interests of the allies(colonizers))- by giving 50% of the land to a populance that actually owned only 7% would result in that fate..they will be kicked off their homes, terrorized and killed if need be to sway the road for the new israel for the elite exclusive jewish minority. seems they where a little naive and thought the UN(i.e. the brits, and the french and the americans) can never
mzkaddah 3 years ago
allow this to happen to them, even if israel (the minority back then) declaired it self a nation on their heads.
mzkaddah 3 years ago
Israel declared Independence and was attacked. On May 15, one day after the creation of the State of Israel, the Arab armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon invaded the new Jewish state.
The Arab leaders told their people to leave and after the defeat of Israel they could all come back to their homes. The ones who stayed, became Israeli Citizens. The ones who fled, ended up in refugee camps.
It's time for Palestinians to finally accept Israel and live in peace.
joanlevin 2 years ago 2
nop habibi that's the history THEY teach you in Tel AVIV, but the real story is the arab arnies did not attack until your newy formed zionist (LIER) government unleashed a campain of eathnic cleansing and terror among the pals...the state the moving swifty and quickly through its plans to create a state OF A MAJORITY OF JEW...yes ethnic cleansing like that happened in bosnia where people where driven to leave their homes by militants, u can sell u kid version of the story to the west not to us:)
mzkaddah 2 years ago
Habibi, Thats the history they teach you in GAZA ! Learn your facts ! .
Ronlv001 2 years ago 2
hehehh...Kossomak
mzkaddah 2 years ago 2
What about israel denyomh them their rights to return to their cities and homes? what about the lies that there was actually no palestine or palestinians? what about palestine never existed? what about lies about them being jordainains who only moved in with the arab armies? what about racism and 60 years of tyranny and lies? what about prejudice, racism, and abusing relegions in a struggle that was never relegious and is all about a crime that needs justice to be served?
mzkaddah 3 years ago
nothing you said was true, though. with the establishment of Israel, the arabs were told over the radio and through propaganda to leave the country BY ARABS, who promised the jews would be pushed into the sea. others left out of fear, and yes, some where ejected by force... but there was force used on both sides, and the arab armies would have done much worse if they had their way.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
The question is not only how Arabs (Christians and Muslims) were pushed out of their cities, towns and villages. The question is also about why they were NOT ALLOWED TO RETURN?
There is not justification of that, and if they are allowed to return and live equally with the Settlers then life would be much better and the conflict would be almost soved.
Amrfaham 3 years ago
for the most part, these were people who left hoping to return to a jew-less land. even the ones who stayed aren't inclined to be there. Why should Israel allow such dissonance within their own borders? the history isn't pretty, but to let all the people who hate israel back in now would be stupid for the state. it was established as a jewish state, and although it doesn't discriminate (in theory...), that doesn't mean it should sacrifice itself to the people who left anyway.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
Well I don't understand; why will you allow people who want less Native Palestinians to already exist in Israel but you don't allow all Palestinian refugees to return assuming that all of them want a "Jew-less state"? If Israel is really a democratic state then it would be more strange not to allow people to return.
Amrfaham 3 years ago
i see where you're coming from, but israel and its israelis want to keep its jewish identity. there's muslim, hindu, and christian states, and israel wants a religious identity too. this would not be fair if there were a majority muslim population which there would definitely be (israeli development since its creation has made the land much more developed than the land around it). european countries do the same thing when they try to keep their "identity", and the U.S. used to do the same thing.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
i wonder whether any European country made millions of refugees and then didn't allow them to return? In this case I can only remember one country in the 30s of the last century and you will be really sad if I mention its name. There are ways to keep an identity rather than brutal ones. Then, you can never compare Europe (dealing with new migrants from different places) and Israel ( closing the borders in the face of native people) The second case is called "ethnic cleansening"
Amrfaham 3 years ago
despite what many choose to believe out of fear and hatred, the israelis are not people who want apartheid over a muslim population or worse. they just want to be able to have their own country rather than be prey to another muslim or christian country. sure, they've made mistakes, but most countries have many more, and muslims still have many more rights in israel than jews did (and do) in muslim countries. we need to work together for peace in the future, rather than despair over the past.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
I agree with you.. but how can you ignore the feelings of the refugees? Think with me it's only this step and beleive me everything will be solved. You will be then in a very string position and you can even rule since you are way ahead in science and technology. levantines want to live in peace as well.. thye are bored of wars and tensions...
Amrfaham 3 years ago
its not that simple, though. a return of that many refugees would be the end of israel, and although that is what many people want, it's definitely not what israel wants. the insistence on this right is what's keeping the palestinian people in endless turbulence. if the palestinian state is achieved, then those refugees will have a place to go rather than camps in lebanon and jordan and elsewhere. but for the state to be formed the leaders have to get their act together and stop blaming the past
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
The only problem with that is, right now the state of israel is majority jewish. So they are in "control" over israel. If they decide to let palestinian's in (which should be their right, being that it was their land), They would have to compromise with the palestinian's. And for some reason (greed) the jews aren't willing to do that. So now the PLO has to take extreme measures against Israeli's, earning the condemnation of Israel backing western countries, creating the cluster fuck we have now.
shakeskatester 2 years ago
greed? oh rightttt, greed.
my friend, greed is what you call PLO officials pocketing money from israel meant for the palestinian people. greed is the continuance of a fight that keeps the palestinians impoverished, rather than commiting your resources to building a state in the copious amounts of land given. greed is hamas using people as human sheilds.
of course theres greed on the israeli side (west bank settlements?) but the palestinians have their own problems to settle.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 2 years ago
you act like the "extreme measures" will accomplish anything. if there's anything so certain in this conflict, it's that moderates on both sides will end it, not the crazies you hold to be heroes.
all this anti-zionism might not be anti-semitism, but it is interesting that people love to condemn israel when millions are dying all over the world. those are catastrophes, but you'd rather ignore those people and attack the jews first.
israel has problems, but leave your biases in the middle ages.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 2 years ago
i know that this still won't make everyone happy, and make jews and muslims become best of allies. they don't have to be friends, but there has to be an end to this violence and discontent. from there, who knows what can be achieved in the future. but an end to the violence and a state both the jews and the muslims is a start to a process that will take generations. but it needs to happen immediately.
thenotoriousSAMMYRAP 3 years ago
Thanks for your excellent explanation of historical fact and the present hope for peace.
joanlevin 2 years ago
first of all all of the orignal pepole how ran away when israelwas crated are dead its the children thet whant back in bu there is 6 milion of them thats the problem
yairbe5 2 years ago
Well, their fathers or granfathers who once left it's only 50 years and you're denying their rights of return.. the Jews were out of Palestine for thousands of years (that if you are one of their descendant really..)...
Amrfaham 2 years ago 2
mzkaddah, you need to seriously calm down and try to start finding allies on the "other" side instead of just playing out the screaming match that's been going on for decades between supporters on both sides of the Israeli-Arab conflict. Here we have a movie that gives you some insight into the hearts of your "enemies", and you just can't realize what its trying to do. As long as you paint this conflict in black and white, there will always be a conflict. There is humanity on both sides.
tinkernator 3 years ago
Exactly Mr. Tinkernator...u are a wise man..you made a point...that you enemies are humans too and I do realize that...but I will never watch a movi like that in 10000 years..know why? becuase I don't want to fall in love with my enemy, enough damage is done by hollywood and its movies...now we can't tell if america is a friend or and enemy..we will never allow isael to get to our hearts UNTIL the TRUTH is Explicitly shown in their movies and we get our FULL RIGHTS BACK. thanks for smart comment
mzkaddah 3 years ago
Someone has to take the first steps towards peace. This movie is a step in that direction. It's not perfect, but do try to understand that it questions the underlying morality of the war - that's something to work with. You might think of all Israelis as black-and-white enemies, but they're not, and neither are Arabs to them. As long as you see the conflict in such absolute terms you cause the conflict to drag on indefinitely.
tinkernator 3 years ago
Thinkernator...I only can understand these equations
X drove Y out of his home on the tip of a gun = X is a criminal
X sold lies that he never did that = X is a lier
X killed Y when he tried to defend his property, family and home = X is a Murrderer
X died (BTW he didn't, zionism is still the breathing life in israel) but he had kids who believed X was a rightous dad and this tyranny against Y is justified becuase he is/was trying to protect them from Y = War with X and his kids
mzkaddah 3 years ago
Y = is not going to forgive and forget until the kids of X confess that their family actually did wrong to Y, and their dad was a lier in all senses including spreading rumors about this war being about relgions not about Justice for Y that is craving to be served.
Y = is not morally or relegiouslt better that X but he has a cause, with is not backed by most of the so claimed "civilized world" or "the international community" or lets call it the proper name "the colonizing community"...well
mzkaddah 3 years ago
JUSTICE IS JUSTICE PEOPLE IT CAN'T BE DIVIDED for the sake of YAWHEH, ALLAH, JESUS or HIS FATHER. A Crime gone unpunished can't be a good basis for long lasting peace..Thinknator..the big illusion that is sold about this conflict that "IT HAS TWO POINTS OF VIEWS"..man justice only has one point of View..the woman's eyes are blinded and the tip of the balance is falling to ONLY ONE SIDE...the side of the truth.
mzkaddah 3 years ago
anyone know what kind of dance that is?
HheadHhammer 3 years ago
If he wasn't doing a waltz I'd be surprised as cunts.
Glickisrad 3 years ago
ואו איזה סרט מדהים זה......
cant belive it didint win the oscar!!
kootzyyy 3 years ago 3
tafsik
alyelhadad 3 years ago
מהמה?
kootzyyy 3 years ago
ho amar lo; tin li et ha mag, tin li et ha mag ya mezdayyen =D
alyelhadad 3 years ago
And people who end up taking their lives suiciding, won't help the problem, they take their issues on the other side as well.
brdeny 3 years ago
my last 2 messages were to sacred1967
I have nothing against jews.. but Sacred is of the type that insults his own people because he loves israel.. me myself im not from israel. but im not going to respect an israel who disappoints his brother for an arab.. its the same.
-i dont have political reviews. Im talking paraphenomenoa and supernatural forces behind brotherhood disappoinment, its almost like the pharaons curse.
brdeny 3 years ago
I have studied about the paranormal phenomenones and spiritualities, despite im just an engineer. And i have learned with experience that if you will have your own people darn you whether you are a jew/muslim/christian.. then you won't find peace in your life anymore. The israeli pilot who defected to israel in 1989 had a job and may had few years of peaceful life. Now he's in the israeli jails after charges for being a thief.
brdeny 3 years ago
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fuck isreal
spankzy01 3 years ago
fuck you
lavinia5 3 years ago 2
God bless the Pahalangists, God bless the Lebanese Forces, God bless the Gusrdians of the Cedars...and God bless our Israeli brothers and sisters in the IDF. We thank you all for helping us Lebanese.
sacred1976 3 years ago
israelis dont want ur brotherhood.
i have sighted you on channels before saying u lebaneese and israelis are classy and blah blah.. i have a better insight of israel thinking.. yes they want to live in peace.. they want to gain friendship as a best way to live in peace but not to the very degree to be ur brothers.. you as a lebaneese u gross them out,, just as they gross arabs out.. so do not over react.. because u gross me out.. me as a very moderate
brdeny 3 years ago
that may be what you think, but no one cares about what you think, because you are ignorant and stupid. very moderate? haha, what a load of crap. You are a joke. You are very moderate, so long as everyone thinks the same way as you....pathetic.
sacred1976 3 years ago
Sacred1967 i think the he's right
you need to control your speech alil bit.. you see the way, the narrator man speaks?
despite he's israeli, he knows where his words are going, unlike u.
The trouble about you is that you lack the power of conversation but not the power of speech.
alyelhadad 3 years ago
and i think you are wrong. I know exactly where my words are going :) I like what i say, and i say what i like. Israel saved Lebanon many times. You people so not realise that. Moderates and neither here nor there...they are total mush. Get off the fence. Control my speech? hahaha. You think speech is fine as long as it agrees with you. That's the language of the Left. I laught at people like you.
sacred1976 3 years ago
funny =D
alyelhadad 3 years ago
not as funny as your beliefs :)
sacred1976 3 years ago 2
does Mariya" the singer love israel too?
alyelhadad 3 years ago
who is she?
sacred1976 3 years ago
مدرسة ماريا اللي كانت بتمص مصاصة في الفيديو كليب
alyelhadad 3 years ago
I don't know anything about her. My taste in music is quite different :)
sacred1976 3 years ago
you dont know good english.
brdeny 3 years ago
My english is beautiful, but i don't bother reading back and correcting what i wrote cuz i don't actually care about doing that. You understand what i am saying and that's all that matters :)
sacred1976 3 years ago
how about ur name is ugly? ;(
brdeny 3 years ago
good luck to you pal.
sacred1976 3 years ago
where is the phalangist party now? حزب المكتائب المسيحية بتاع 82
alyelhadad 3 years ago
Alive and well in Lebanon. The phalange and the lebanese forces are the same. They are well supported and are in the majority government.
sacred1976 3 years ago
where is saad haddad?
i mean still they have weapons like 82?
alyelhadad 3 years ago
Saad Haddad died in the early 80's of cancer. He was a great man. The Lebanese Forces gave their weapons to the Lebanese govt when the war ended, as did the other militias, except of course for the traitors hizbollah. The only weapons the LF etc keep now are held by individuals in their own homes in case the need arose for self defence. Although i am sure many are buying more arms, since hizbollah keep threatening other Lebanese.
sacred1976 3 years ago
i feel its likely Lebanon will undergo another civil war in the upcoming 10 or 15 years
alyelhadad 3 years ago
i think you are right, and i feel it's all because of syria and hizbollah. They refuse to let the government govern. They refuse to deal diplomatically with Israel. They refuse to disarm and they threaten all other Lebanese with their weapons....there will be no choice but to go to war, but it all depends on hizbollah and syria, whether they leave Lebanon alone or not....no one wants a war.
sacred1976 3 years ago
why
Ayoshaaaa 3 years ago
huh
alyelhadad 3 years ago
as far as we in israel know, Hizbullah under Iran is in charge in lebanon.
perhaps they are not the majority, but they are definitely the ones in charge.
i believe under christian leadership , lebanon wouldn't have been in a much better place today.
while our country seeks for nothing but living in peace, i believe chrsitians would share the goal of peace and would have brought some stability to the region.
but its just a fantasy, radical islam is incharge of lebanon...
ergerus 3 years ago
yes, they are the most powerful at the moment. But do not be fooled into thinking that the rest of Lebanon bow down to whatever they want. They kept their militia, the rest of us disarmed. But hizbollah know damn well that they cannot take over Lebanon. Every household in Lebanon have weapons for self defence. Last year hizbollah invaded many areas of Lebanon. In the mountains hizbollah lost a few men to the Druze. They must be careful...
sacred1976 3 years ago
i have some good friends whom are druze, and they r wonderfull people, who care about nothing but minding their own business. what did hizbullah want from them???
i know how horrible it is to live in a country next to hizbullah. never thought how it is 4 the people in labanon, having to live under their regme.
ur painting a really sad picture of lebanon. i hope u'd never have to use wepons to defend urself. hope all will end peacefully.
ergerus 3 years ago
Well currently we are locked in a political armwrestle. We do not live under their regime at all. They are trying to break away and create their own min-state, and we are preventing it from happening.
I hope it will not come to civil war again, but if we have to, like you, we will fight them back.
sacred1976 3 years ago
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talk about a glorified bunch of zionais. YOU JUST used white phosphorous bombs on children... CHILDREN. the world is sick of you.
truthspeaker9 3 years ago
oh wow.......TRUTHSPEAKER...the speaker of truth !!! ......very impressed !! The world is sick of violence!!!!.........and remeber that in september 1970 the jordanian military killed about 30 000 palestinians.......you argue when muslims kill muslims ? or is it very easy and cheap to blame only the jews. By the way I'm not a jew.
rumpelfutz 3 years ago 3
Guys, please stop arguing, I'm sure there is a forum somewhere for you to do that.
Lonewolf1126 3 years ago 3
On the contrary I think if anything youtube should encourage discussion/debate of this caliber in the comments. It beats 'LOL! It looks like he's dancing!!!' any day.
RedNEXUS 3 years ago
What is the number of Schubert's waltz at the end?
antonvasiliev 3 years ago
It is Chopin's waltz in C# minor, Op. 64-2, I believe.
destinyshuffler 3 years ago
from where did u download it?
molgram 3 years ago
achtung! German who is a son of a Russian soldier who raped his mom.
this is what the ss did to you .
daudthefirst 3 years ago
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ACHTUNG JUDEN!!! SS HEIL HITLER!!!
pusitegaSUPovci 3 years ago
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death to all jews!!!heil hitler!!!
emaimon1 3 years ago
ur funny.... u actually have no life and you racer 0.O
molgram 3 years ago 2
Yes, anti war, sensitive to the Israeli soldiers & the victims of Sabra & Shatila. But he showed that the Phalange party was the only one at fault.The guys that went into Sabra were under Elie Hobeika who disgraced the name of the Phalange.Should NOT represent who all the members of the Phalang were.They started out as young Christian guys protecting their neighborhoods especially after the Christian massacres of Damour (by Palestinian militants who happened to kill Elie's family & girlfriend).
FreeLebanon2007 3 years ago
Please shut up!
Sabra and Shatila massacre was led by Christian militia in response to the assassination of Bashir Gemayel... The assassinater was captured, and he was found to be Christian. In short, Sabra and Shatila massacre victims paid for what they have not done.
Stop defending scums, the Phalanges committed this massacre by aid of the Israeli army... Both are scums and war criminals.
averroes13 3 years ago
The Phalange guys who protected my neighborhood from getting massacred are the same "scum" who went into Sabra?WRONG! I'm curious, what do you call the men who massacred the innocent Christians in Damour before Sabra happened? Are they scum?I'm NOT justifying what happened in Sabra. It's a crime!Or any killing of women and children.However there is MORE to the phalage than Elie.Thank u for stating that it happened AFTER the assassination of Bashir. Meaning it was never an order made by him.
FreeLebanon2007 3 years ago 2