Trans Am vs Trans Am

[KODxReignx]

I love them all but no other t/a's compare to the fourth gen. I have one and the ls1 is amazing.

[HedgehogOutdoors]

Why auto?

[cdude100]

I think the trans am won.

[thunderup86]

its funny that you have a 3500 stall on there because truly if your not running a trans break that 3500 stall is way to high and actually robbing you of power and torque just because you have a 3500 stall does not make you faster sometimes it can make you even slower

[24LaX4]

@thunderup86 yea that is true. its killing the low power band if all you have is headers.

[shredder1500]

if only i had a 88 gta...

[firebird8120]

really nice but 4th gens are boss

[AONEMANPRODUCTION]

3rd genn still won just for being there :]

[moonrunner777]

awesome

[OTL93]

3rd gen's rule. Drop an LS1 into a GTA and you get the best of both worlds.

[Vettes4lyfe]

This pretty much how my race will look. i got an 88 GTA with the L98 350, my aunt wants to race me with her 99 T/A with the LS1 :( Gonna lose. but third gen look a lot better in my opnion.

[firechicken76]

@Vettes4lyfe put an ls1 in your car like I did to my GTA.

[Vettes4lyfe]

@firechicken76 that's what i was thinking an ls1 turned into an 383, and supercharg it. :D cant give up my day time job now. lol

[1gbayfisher]

Third gen all they way!

The fourth gens are beasts, but man, the third gens are just gorgeous cars!

[Camaromandave98]

trans am looks in no way what so ever like a sunfire, just because you want something you can't have does not mean you joke it.....

[pnyk]

@Camaromandave98 I have a 99 T/A and sometimes yes it does look like a sunfire in the back, lol

[Camaromandave98]

@pnyk maybe a lil, haha but i bet that sunfire hauls ass, haha

[SubZer089]

@Camaromandave98 I always thought the sunfire was for those who could not afford the firebird because the sunfire came out after the firebird. Kinda funny how people try to degrade the look because they can't degrade the power.

[Camaromandave98]

@SubZer089 Exactly, the trans am is a beautiful car, i in no way think that it looks like a sunfire, yeah theres no denying the power of a ls1, im sure the sunfire comments are mostly from the underpower 4.6 mustang owners haha, gotta find something to make fun of cause you sure can't talk about the power.

[SubZer089]

@Camaromandave98 lol 4.6 vs 5.7 This is one of those instances where size does matter. Its funny because the Trans Am was loved so much that Kevin Morgan spent a lot of money making a conversion for the 2010 camaro. Mustangs are cool... if you want less power for the price.

[Camaromandave98]

@SubZer089 Yep, fbodys ftw.

[onlypresto]

both cars are nice, but i think it was an unfair race because the third gens could only have up to 245 horse and the fourth gens after 98 came with 315 standerd, but i would shill have the 88 cause it looks better and is more capalble of a car when built right, i bought one and built the 350 in it and ran a 9 second 1/4 for less than 5 grand, and i can't even touch a 4th gen for less than 6000 thats worth building

[Weazell]

love that 88

[KcclAid]

Not to mention the GTA looks way better, the 4th gen trans ams look like sunfires..

[IronwolfWS6]

@KcclAid Sunfires? Are you kidding me?

[maidenrulz73]

@IronwolfWS6  a sunfire at best!!!

[maidenrulz73]

@KcclAid i agree...too many farings and spoilers....but i'd still prefer the iroc z

[nomadkrazy]

@KcclAid no, the sunfires almost look like the 4th gen.

[3rd4thgenFbody]

@nomadkrazy i have noticed the pack fenders are very similar

[tyIerz06]

@KcclAid You mean the Sunfires look like Firebirds, as the 4th generation Firebird came out for the 1993 m/y while the Sunfire came out in the 1995 m/y.

[ftlc1]

Trans-Am sucks! HONDA BABY ALL THE WAY!!!

[yutfyfgyuigui]

fuck u

[ftlc1]

Fuck you you stank ass redneck faggot!

[BlackTransAmdude]

I'm diggin the 3rd gen

[Jgow321]

manual is so much better

[BreeBrutality]

3rd gen ftw <3

[wjrneo2]

@BreeBrutality While I love the 3rdgen, no way will I ever bet against a 4th gen LS1 when it comes to stock vs stock racing. Unless we are talking about a 89 TTA, or 91-92 Firehawk, which is a different animal all together.

[BreeBrutality]

@wjrneo2 lol oh i know i have an 02 ws6 ls1

[quazimutato]

At the end of the day you both drive Pontiacs so there are no real winners here, LOL!!!

[TheLBCSublime]

Alright Hyundai boy, gtfo

[Cenon2007]

What what do you drive fag? An acrua?

[quazimutato]

What the fuck is an ACRUA??? You overweight inbred cocksucking redneck.

[Cenon2007]

Did my typo make you nerd rage? Sorry you racist pedophile.

[quazimutato]

Typical response from some ball licker who drives a car that was so shitty in its time that Pontiac no longer exists because of it. Douche nozzle.

[Cenon2007]

Ya, cause that makes all the sense in the world. Stock they've been known to run 12.9 with the ls1 engine. Ya... So so shitty.

[firechicken76]

not with an automatic. autos usually run 13.5+ while the 6 speeds run low 13's

[Cenon2007]

Very true, Shift kit would help that out... But then it wouldn't be stock anymore haha.

[firechicken76]

A stall would, i dont know about a shift kit helping out all that much.

[Cenon2007]

A stall would help tons also. The shift kit helps for more precise 'faster' shifts instead of waiting for higher rpms to change gears.

[portyMD]

real people drive manuals, I guess i'm fake

[ws6transam84]

Nice bit of fun, that!

[protocaldroid117]

i agree with you onehundread twenty precent my friend a real person drives a manual

[Death666wish]

what am i supposed to do if GM barely makes manual cars? my daily driver is a manual though.

[FirebirdKnight]

two awesome cars!

[gimpypimpy12]

the 3rd gen didnt do to bad considering the mods on the ls1 lol

[renizer]

any info on what the 88 has in it? ain't it pointless to race a stock 3gen with a LS1 + upgrades? :)

oh and btw, i think the 4th gen convertible will be even heavier than the mentioned 2-300lbs compared to a coupe/t-top 3rd.

[firechicken76]

thats why you put an ls1 in a third gen :)

[DuvalJags95]

or an LT1 if your on a budget....like me

1992 Z28 w/ 1996 T/A LT1 & M6

[Bbdrew]

not to mention the fact that in 88 the 350 GTA only had 225 horsepower as opposed to the 91/92's having 245 which were a bit more to be reckoned with.

Still nothing against an LS1 - was an unfair match but at least it was a cool one.

[Zman87gt]

A stock L98 (5.7 tpi) GTA will run aroung a 14.5 - 15.0 quarter mile. The 60 foot time is very close or identical to a LS1 or LT1 powered car. The main problem is the TPI does'nt flow good past 4500 rpm. It drops power like crazy at that point. They were a great street setup for the time, producing lots of torque. They produce more low end torque than the LT1's did and maybe the LS1's. Still they are pretty good for a 20 year old car.

[danny22093]

Oh and my Trans am has a 5.7 350 TPI engine (Stock)

[danny22093]

Im an owner of a 1987 Trans am GTA (Automatic & Stock)

And I've raced a few (Stick Shift) Mustang GT's before and half of those races I won, and the other I lost by only by like 1/2 of the Mustang or bearly by the whole Mustang..

And vice versa on my wins

How could this happend? lOl

You should do a rematch but both cars stock..

I still feel the 99 Trans am is going to win, but I wanna see lOl :P

[superstar1701e]

in an '01 vette I could do 110mph in 3rd gear (6 spd) and I thought that was fantastic... only an automatic could pull 150 in 3rd... especially in a firebird... I don't know what the newer transmissions are geared at... but the 700r4's can do 175 (theoretically) in 3rd... assuming it can handle the power to get it there...

I'm really suprised the convertible ate the GTA that bad... the engines aren't that dissimilar... sure the newer one has more HP.. but still... that was a big difference...

[Preya612]

yes not that much of a difference yes that the new ones came with a Ls1 appose to the shitty 350 the gta has.!

[superstar1701e]

well the TPI motor isn't a bad motor... just underpowered for it's day... cars have only gotten faster in the years since the muscle car era and the first oil crisis... when suddenly everything was built slow...

still in it's day that GTA was the top of the line... shouldn't be that slow...

[Preya612]

tru! but i rather the ls1 and lt1's over the 3rd gen...i own 2 3rd gens a 89 firebird and a 87 gta.!

[superstar1701e]

the LT1's don't really gain a whole lot over the 3rd gen setup...

but LS1's bring out the devil in me...

[Preya612]

yes yes the Love sick 1 =ls1

[isphius]

the only thing similar about them is the layout and size. the ls1 is totally different

[thomeygun1]

150 in third is very possible if its an auto

[TheWeasls]

not with stock gearing its not

[risendudelm]

yeah! you showed him

[mustangkiller29]

bad ass!! i own a 91 gta and my brother has an 87 gta and we love to drive our trans am*s like they were meant to be!!! there is also a new rivalry in america....... trans ams vs. all mustangs ON SIGHT AT EVERY LIGHT!!!!!!

[TheWeasls]

try out running me i got a 91 gta but im not slow like that. impressive against that gta but i dought you can pass me but before i get ahead of myself what you pushing to start with

[trunner0111]

i have a 02 trans am and messed around with my friend whos got a 88 trans am 305 he keep up for a little cause they has alot of torque as well about 290-300 not as much as 350ish but enough to keep up untill the LS1 engine with the 120 horse power diffrence kicks in lol

[pvtnum11]

GTA = Great Tubby Am

Used to own one, the L98 sure helped make up for the weight of the car. Despite the wight of the car, it handled okay and had decent power. I still miss it. If I get the chance to own another Trans Am again, it would be one of the L03 stickshift models.

That or a hardtop TTA. :D

[coverdale20]

Keep in mind that the LS1 cars are sometimes actually heavier....

[isphius]

the 4th gens are heavier than the 3rd by about 2-300 lbs

[coverdale20]

Isn't that what I said...?

[isphius]

yeah oops i commented on it twice. was meant for the original comment not yours

[isphius]

you know the 3rd gen is only like 3200 lbs right? what do you want out of it?

[VayLoc310]

That was a nice video, but y'all need to get on the freeway and open them Trans Am's up

[mustangfan6918]

my dad had a gta we put a ls1 out of a police car in it and the biggest cam he could get in it and he was doing 150 in 3rd i know that because the cop told us when we got caught lol

[thezach01]

"LT-1" police cars never came with 3rd generation LS-1's. but either way. you're wrong. 150 in third not possible.

[CamaroSS2236]

unless its a custom long ass gear lol

[thezach01]

well, i spent 5 years as a ASE mastertech, and now im a Machinist... i have never once seen/heard of someone ordering one gear to be cut, nor have i ever heard of someone bringing just one gear to a shop and asking to install it. even then... i still call bullshit on kids that dont know what they are saying... if someone is un-informed they shouldn't speak, on youtube and in person. As it only leads to making a ASS-of-U-and-ME

[CamaroTBI]

seems like everyone on youtube is ASE certified nowadays

[thezach01]

seems that way, yet fact remains im right.

[CamaroTBI]

Im not saying you're not dont get me wrong. All Im saying is I see a lot of people bullshit saying they're certified when they are really not.

[thezach01]

lol about to get re-cert in fall testing here in november. and get diesel certified

[mustangfan6918]

yeah well i was in the motherfucker i dont give a damn if ur a machanic he has proof the ticket so i dont give a fuck if ur jesus it happened i know it i was there

[thezach01]

damn, i wish my trans am could defy the laws of physics and do that! o well. for now i guess I'll just stay here on this little planet called earth.

[isphius]

i still want to know what cop car the ls1 came from. esp since the police have never used any cars with ls1s

[HeadCharg3]

Dead even till the gta has to shift.

[mullen9103]

My Dad has a 4th gen and whomps on me all the time.  Damn LS1's!!

[LJAR28]

My dad did that once with my GTA it was

awesome but he didn't race