Metallica - 1986 - The Thing that Should not be

[CoupeAudi1990]

People say james voice change because cliff died and james get more mature but i think james voice changed the day he desided to grow mustach

[ExodusHeadbanger97]

Actually this song was played in Standard D tuning on the album and played in Standard C# live.

Simple as that. This was never played in Drop tuning. Look for the live videos!

[JonasBye123]

To all the cunts arguing: The song was recorded in drop d, but played live in standard d. Who knows why, it sure is a hell of a lot easier to play it in drop d.

[robertocazo1]

cliff burton?

[Disposable5]

@robertocazo1 no this is jason,. cliff had just died

[amyntut]

Was this right after Cliff died ?

[DamageIncorperated86]

The easiest way to learn it is drop D, it is, however, played live in D standard.

[Serg13majik]

Hetfield with a King V? now ive seen it all... and its Drop D, not C# people...

[dusted04]

drop d you faggets ! 

[Metbash]

@dusted04 this song is recorded in d tuning. just look at their fingers, when they play powerchords

[MrStarWarsNerd1]

shit they played this fast!

[lookslikeharry2]

hey guys

lol

in this vid, they are playing in drop C#. that's what they play this song in today :P

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2

they play their e tuned songs tuned down half step live these days

they played their songs in drop c during st anger tour

and the thing that should not be is played in d tuning, not drop c

[lookslikeharry2]

@Metbash nope.avi

This recording is in drop C#.

They always played this song in drop C#.

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2 first this is a "D" tuning, second, look at james fingers in any video of The Thing that Should not be, SandM for example, asshole

they never played in drop c before st anger. and they play ONLY st anger songs in drop c

[lookslikeharry2]

@Metbash This is drop C#. Do you even play guitar? C# is drop D a half-step down, drop C is a whole step down.

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2 they play this song in D tuning (DGCFAD), nor drop c neither drop c sharp

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2 and they play their song not in drop tunings today, they play their E tuned songs in Eb tuning live (Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb), some song (Sad But True, The Thing that Should not be, all nightmare long for example) in D tuning (DGCFAD) because they are recorded using d tuning, and st anger songs in c tuning (CGCFAD).

[lookslikeharry2]

@Metbash Let me ask again - DO YOU KNOW WHAT DROP C# TUNING IS? They recorded this song in drop D, not D standard. I presume they've always played it in drop C# for the sake of heaviness, but my point is they have ALWAYS played this song in drop C#. Come on man, this really isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 this is not drop c# tuning man....

if you see them play on live and look how they play it.... you know its not drop! just look at the power chords

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 holy facepalm. brb, grabbing my pistol and killing myself

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 wtf man? just look at how they play it!

the power chords they are doing are power chords to do in standard tuning... not drop...

look at their fingers when they play it

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 1. listen to it.

2. grab your guitar, tune your e string to c#

3. feel like a total fag

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 1. look at how they play it.

2. grab a guitar and tune it a 1 and a half step down

3. feel like a total fag

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 Yes, one and a half step down, with the E string tuned to C#. Just listen, during the chorus that low heavy chord is only achieved by an open palm mute strum with your guitar in drop C#. Except on the album of course, it's tuned in drop D.

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 see 4:50. James is playing open. Standard tuning, that shit is a totally different chord, so yeah.

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 shit man...

just look here how they fucking play it and admit that your wrong

/watch?v=-QCR2zc2OXU

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 I'm not wrong.

I'm not going to argue about this any longer. They are playing in drop C#. You could play it in standard C# I suppose... it just wouldn't be anywhere near as practical.

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 oh for god sake they don't play it in drop!!

just look at the video i just gave you! fucking tune your guitar to D standard and try fucking play it like they did at that video!!

[lookslikeharry2]

@rani600 lol u mad

[rani600]

@lookslikeharry2 yes i'm mad!

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2

look at THEIR FINGERS WHEN THEY PLAY POWERCHORDS U PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!!

[lookslikeharry2]

@Metbash gratuitous amounts of mad detected in this sector.

[Metbash]

@lookslikeharry2 they play only one song i drop c# (- human from s&m)

[bryanslash]

FASTERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RomuloDarkElf]

Why is Jason so distant from audience??

This is so weird...

(sorry about my english.)

[Metbash]

@RomuloDarkElf

this is cliff, not jason, dumbass

[RomuloDarkElf]

@Metbash Oooow!!! Take it easy fag... Are you drunk?? rsrsrs... This is Jason Newsted, sorry...

[Metbash]

@RomuloDarkElf yeah, sorry man) i did'n notice)

[homer00316]

1989 was the best

[rokstar807]

ONE person should NOT be!!!

[poniman87]

And this was when Metallica was Metallica

[slayer47]

Where is all the Lars haters in the clip??

[ollipuppet]

@slayer47 You are right :-)!!!!!!!!!!!

[RandomHouseOfMute]

I don't think Metallica will be the same without Cliff

[jacoo66]

Lol I love how in the description you just put "Jason" (x but I liked jason

[Zou747]

Thats gotta be one of jasons very first shows

[warckon]

its not the 'dave mustaine king v ' model,fact is that james had it a year earlyer but didnt want the endorsee with jackson caus he felt it would hurt hes reputation.He did use it on the master of puppets tours for songs like this one,with lower tunings.

[Guggebilen]

@warckon Why did it hurt his reputation?

[warckon]

@Guggebilen He said that it just didnt feel right playing with a jackson king v,and besides...the explorer looks pretty good on him annyway :P

[MACARONIEMANIAC]

@MichaelD500 James can't solo like Dave that is fact.

[ovlada]

fuck they used to play their stuff really fast back in time......

[MACARONIEMANIAC]

Dave mustaine guitar FTW.

[Danimal77]

Look how hard Lars actually worked back then compared to the last 17 years...

[1ballz08]

@Danimal77 LOL! No kidding, huh?

[Laurelindo]

@Danimal77 Well they were kind of young in this video, so everyone including Lars probably had that youthful energy and ambition. =P

[AngerIsOurGift]

This is with Jason, not Cliff. Pretty easy to tell by Jason's posture and the sound of the bass at the open of the song. Also, you can clearly see that he is picking. Cliff used his fingers.

Cliff didn't have a lot of time to play this material live, sadly.

[SeaCoastAcdmy12]

not cliff

[metallicafanfjdk]

James sound the same a bit in 2008 version in Berlin.

[Mircinoable]

Is there Jason Newsted on bass???

[metallicafanfjdk]

@Mircinoable Idk Hmmm Thats a really good question... Maybe you can look at the bassist there and Cliff should look like Jason Newsted. Its obvious to see if its cliff or Jason. Cliff did wear Jeans and Jean jackets. Most of the time. Cliff head bangs like shit.

[Mircinoable]

@metallicafanfjdk I think is Jason.....!

[chrizzz20]

@Mircinoable I believe its Jason

[metalnmj996]

is it cliff???....i hve dis doubt coz i think he's using a pick....

[Ajax8426]

best song ever soundtrack to my life

[horror4ever1997]

the thing that should not be is cliff´s death!

[jeesusrv]

dark deception kill the light light light !!

[rvx13]

Master of puppets is one of my all time best metal albums , i thought they went down hill after that all thougth justice for all was ok, which was the first time i saw them live in the uk in manchester.

[chriscleary24]

it seems a lot faster tempo then the album version

[gendrpepper]

i

that dosent look like a gibson james is playing...

[andrewds98]

@gendrpepper its a jackson king v

[dieegui]

they played it in Eb! WTF! i thought that was after load and reload, life always give us something to learn.

[nycbassist76]

@dieegui it could be the crappy video playing tricks on u...not complaining just saying

[dieegui]

@nycbassist76 should be, but listen closely, and compare with the album version, no mean to discuss, just saying

[Maiden4eva1995]

@dieegui this song is in drop d

[dieegui]

@Maiden4eva1995 yeah, but i meant drop Db

[gojira44]

@dieegui They play this song in D standard not drop D...

[kingv911]

back when lars used to beat the shit out of his drums....

[matabaldia]

Incredible song, incredible performance, metallica were once a metal band, I miss Cliff.

[SeepingNosferatu]

James also used a B.C. rich wrath before.

[jagermeister04]

@SeepingNosferatu reali??? i didnt know that. any clips on youtube?

[evildeadbully]

is so awesome eatch riff they play they allways headbang afther he have singed:P sick!

[GerMaggot555]

what does metallica think when they watch how awesome the were back then

[izzystradlin2222]

@GerMaggot555 yeah, i've wondered that.

[BigBozSicenunow]

@GerMaggot555,they must be thinking selling out has cost us METAL respect!!!!!

[santillica]

back in the day when lars had a men drum kit now looks like he buy it in TOYS`R US lol

[dragonfurp]

awesome..... but here,s an idea! play it with normal speed!

[Ajax8426]

Metallica for life

[deadline27]

they were truly awesome back then.

[evildeadbully]

@deadline27 they still Awesome in many many eyes like my and maybe yours: ) Metallica is legendary band

[deadline27]

@evildeadbully not so awesome in my eyes anymore... but thats o.k. to each his own and more power to em' for sticking together for this long.

[metallicafanfjdk]

i thought i herd something like at 4:15 'hey guys, its Aaron....' ??

[germilazeb]

Love live MetallicA. The only metal bands being loved by all the Muslims...

[Ajax8426]

@germilazeb muslims love allah fuck them

[met1bama]

I think this is the hardest ive ever seen James headbang!! Hes really throwin down!

[MSV94]

This is soooo fast!!!!! HELL YEAH!!!!!!

[rengoku23]

he only used the jackson king v for this song only then he broke the guitar :(

[JMnDC4eva]

Cliff dying is THE THING THAT SHOULD NOT BE

[degenerate315]

@JMnDC4eva

you my friend deserve a cookie.

[MrRedman]

That King V looks BANGIN'! ...It looks fuckin' sharp and beastly - just like Chtulu (The Thing That Should Not Be)

[garyjfoster]

no its a jackson king v

[81RacOOn]

love to see how james bang his head around 1986 to 1989...

[dieguis12]

i fucking love that drum set!

[luigisbrother100]

"The THING that SHOULD NOT BE!!!" I think this is how you define Cliff Burton's Death.

R.I.P Cliff Burton - Cannot The Kingdom Of Salvation Take Me Home?

[gogogitarista]

James Hetfield with Jackson guitar?!?!?!!

[punkrocker543]

thats and ESP Flying V

[spike007980]

He had a endorsed Jackson King V before Dave mustaine

[KvSwooo]

@gogogitarista yeah he used a King V on the puppets tour for a bit

[arehormeus]

@gogogitarista He wanted to promote jackson guitars and the King V on the master of puppets tour

[alkhan]

@gogogitarista Yeah, for a while in Metallica's career he used it 'cause he broke the neck of one the flying Vs he used to play the most (one of them is upon a wall in the Universal Studios Rock Cafè and it used to stay between Kravitz's and the Courtney Love's ones ;-)... this is the first concert clip in which I see him playing it, wow!

[nycbassist76]

@gogogitarista he stole it from mustaine when he kicked him out lol j/k of course

[MACARONIEMANIAC]

@gogogitarista The Dave Mustaine model to 0.o

[darthinfurnus]

@gogogitarista

That's actually the guitar he used to record most of Master Of Puppets

[BorysTheTormentor]

@darthinfurnus

He only used it to TTSNB

[dhonnar]

@BorysTheTormentor He also pleyed it for Ride the Lightning in the tour

[thrasherlml]

@darthinfurnus you are thinking of the white flying v.. this is a king v for d tuning

[bongowongowongo]

@gogogitarista

Yeah Jackson King V which I believe was the Dave Mustaine signature from back in the day.

[slantyrock]

props to metallica, they are playing like motherfuckers and cliff had just died a short while before, pretty amazing.

[iburl]

Missed my senior prom to see Metallica (with Cliff) opening for Ozzy in '86. Never regretted it.

[aliflippd]

@iburl thats extremely cool, plus you saw them in 86, awsome

[alexkooy]

@iburl best choice in your live ;):P

[Chwisy]

@iburl best move ever made

[ContraBoi]

@iburl Man I would have skipped my senior prom a thousand times to see this tour!! Too bad I wasn't even around in 86 =(.

[Jtmoney363636]

@iburl you lucky bastard!

[troy42100]

@iburl saw the same tour..where did you see it?i saw them at nassau coliseum..long island..in fact there is a clip of the show i was at on youtube ..playing master of puppets april 28 1986..cheers!

[heashon2000]

@iburl I regretted every prom I went to. I could have been home practicing Metallica songs.

[xd101001]

James looks so fucking bad ass with a Jackson King V... I wish he would use it more often :(

[TiazaLynn]

Absomotherfuckinglutely!

[oyhe94]

its broken, but he could get a custom from esp or jackson

[fivethousandm]

TheForestKid is a moron

read all of his shit below

This stupid fuck thinks that Cliff is playing in this..

[zodiacxkiller]

I miss James and Kirk using this sickass guitars. Now they only use Les Pauls live D:

[MrRedman]

Without getting too technical and starting a debate;

James uses: Gibson, Ken Lawrence and ESP live

Kirk uses a range including: Gibson, ESP and Jackson.

I know there's a lot more but people will look into it too much =)

[SechMolinari]

@MrRedman and A Jackson

[SassoChessy]

@zodiacxkiller

Agree

[pmanderson]

Hetfield is NOT playing a Mustaine model. He acually had this built before Mustaine had his King V custom built.

[thatmetalsoldier]

wohh there playing faster than normal on this song lol fuck it ill smoke a momo with them... they luv cocaine back than any waz SO WHAT!! ill smoke a momo with u too!

[Disciple1000]

Good shit.

[clintdiamante99]

sexiest james hetfield posture and stance. i love it.

[FRAMBEN]

angetz00 me and my band still writes this kind of music, check it out when we have some videos

[mujuma]

Fuck, have this almost on half-volume, and it's fucking my weak-speakers.

Good shit here.

[agentzer00]

what guitar is kirk hammett using here.

[dosadi512]

hard to tell, but the headstock looks like a Kramer.

[mikem376]

Jackson soloist

[dimlightbulb10]

king v. a solost resembles a standard ibanez or kirks usual esp

[mikem376]

Oh my god....

A guy asked on here:

What guitar is KIRK using?

I said Jackson Soloist.

and it is what Kirk is using.

im not a dumbshit bro

[marktheshark87]

This is definitely NOT a Jackson Soloist.

[mikem376]

Youre a dumbfuck

it is

[marktheshark87]

Nope ;)

[mikem376]

Hmmm.

What is it kind sir?

[1xcrosswordx1]

whoa. little too much testosterone for one day, man.

[kirakirk]

It was actually Fernandes Strat with Floyd Rose. He had a picutre carrying this with Cliff. I have a calendar with him holding that guitar.

[mikem376]

Sweet then

[OuchMyGlands666]

It just blows my mind that a band that could write something this heavy could also be responsible for a piece of shit like Unforgiven 2...

[Nigurepur]

mmm..should have quit 89-90,,, What do they say?..always quit when yer at the top... Sigh...

Thing is...they was the fucking best band out there... Now I consider them as the same shit as the cardigans, britney spears , and backstreet boys whatever..... Metallica is fucking pop music today.....

[OuchMyGlands666]

I totally agree, man. You hit the nail right on the head.

[agentzer00]

stfu no one writes this kind of music anymore

[mujuma]

A piece of shit? Unforgiven 2 is great...

Your language is 'shit'.

[OuchMyGlands666]

Haha yeah, my language is the problem. Far be it for me to deny your right to pollute your ears with nu-tallica.

As for me, I'll stick to listening to the albums they put out when they were still a respectable band.

[METALLICADDICT1993]

nah king vs were mustaines thing explorers were hetfields thing

[nomad2746]

This was during the time when Jackson was trying to get James to use their guitars. I heard he used the King V for a while and "accidentaly" broke it one night. He went to back to his Explorers not long after and the went with ESP eventually. These videos are awesome. I'd like to know where this person gets them

[KvSwooo]

HOLY SHIT, lars is fucking INCREDIBLE here

[LJayFilms]

Delay = <3

[XxDrFeelgood23xX]

WHOA dude is that james playing a jackson king v?

[MetalVinn]

Funny thing is, that back then it was a Mustaine V, at least by my knowledge.

[XxDrFeelgood23xX]

i know lol i was about to say i cant believe hes playing one of daves signature guitars of the time

[motorstorm78]

Haha Jason looks lost xD he only beggining I totally see why

[tallicafan250169]

he and james got started on esps in like '87