@ray4ix exactly he's a CEO he knows how to plan ahead at least he learned, this is for the public to make him look dumb, human and accesible. We should ask bill gates why windows comes with remote shared enabled by defautl IPC$
even tou gill gates is not a saint for running the monopoly of evil closed source software, what he displays here is the face of america against a person that act reasonable.
Eu não conheço direito o Death metal em si, só os sub gêneros (Deathcore, melodeath, technical deathmetal, progressive Death metal, math metal...) Also, eu gosto muito de Symphonic Black metal e Black metal, mas eu não conheço as bandas direito, só Dimmu borgir e gorgoroth (lol), você podia me ajudar hein? (cutucada no braço)
Parece que você gosta da parada mais brutal... As músicas brutais tem muita melodia sim, mas ñ da pra ouvir nada, e nem da a sessação de que existe. Acho que brutalidade eu gosto só na hora do breakdown, por isso eu gosto mais de technical. Eu vou dar uma olhada nessas bandas aí :D
"Bill Gates....Pamela Anderson.....well, it's not working so well". I guess he's not impressed because he's already very well acquainted with huge boobs......such as steve ballmer.
And I guess you run like a girl. Otherwise you'd talk like a man and ... to put it simply : say nothing unless asked to or in case needed be. I didn't ask you anything ( neither did anyone here ) and you needn't say such stupidity. It only shows your true nature ...
PS : Explain me how you'd run that company and how it would be better.
Yeah, and you should mind your own business. I'm saying that because women run companies pretty well from what I heard, so when I say Bill Gates runs his company like a girl, I'm saying that he's doing a great job running his company as a CEO.
Sorry if I misunderstood your idea. Usually people compare men with women with an objective of hurting the man. That's exactly what I understood from what you wrote. It doesn't mean you meant it like that, I just understood it that way.
And how would I know you meant it as a compliment if so many people do it for the reason I told you -- to offend the man ?
You should have wrote more stuff so anyone who reads it can understand your point instead of judging it like I did.
no one asked you to post your retarded aggressive comments here so why violate the law you just made up yourself? don't think people will just wait for you to ask for something they can answer to...
Haha people are a bunch of morons hating Bill Gates. I mean, I don't like the guy, his products may not be top quality, but I see no reason to hate him either. Probably because the guy makes a lot of money selling crappy buggy products that are too complicated for the cognitively challenged average person to use. That is why they shift to Apple, because it is more "accessible". Most people who hate him are probably using Windows OS in their computers right now. Bah. Morons.
Ridiculous rumors fly that he's evil, and that he's in league with the devil, sold his soul to become filthy rich. I don't really know where people get their irrational fears from. Perhaps because most people need something or someone to deride just so they can feel better and ignore their own inadequacies and failures.
lmao that is funny but let me jut say...i run the apple mac osx and i can assure you...it doesnt do half the things windows xp or vista did i have always used mac thats wat i am using rite now if i cud get a new comp i wud get windows vista ultimate mac osx does not come to competition at all with Microsoft
u know what, did u see the look and body langauge after that, omg, his thinking what a world we live in, his living like how we MIGHT be living maybee maybe just maybe if we will 10 generations from now on,,
interesting foresight on your behalf! you have something there, that many people may not be thinking about. that we all will be just like that in the future! "oh some one said i was somewhere else drinking beer with someone else and here are the photos and video?" arian40, i think the future by todays standards is frighting! We all average people are not used to what Bill Gates just experienced! Interesting!
i was just imagining what someone who doesnt understand the nerdy meaning of owning would think of this, probably, "well of course he does! i own my self, infact everyone owns himself"
you all are idiots...he had already done a search before the show...that whole bit was to promote himself and microsoft, and how there are SO many videos out there about him - i.e. he is famous, popular, and fun to make videos of...just like this video which furthur promotes microsoft, lol...idiots.
And... he created MSN Soapbox. Faker! ... And there was a definite frame of that Steve Jobs impressionist in the 'Bill Gates Runs Like A Girl'. If he played that video in that event, I bet the world will explode. It's this one, made by G4TV: watch?v=Sckba-EX5MM
You think billion dollar bill really gives a billion dollar damn about these stupid comments peeps?? He is probably sitting at home in his billion dollar mansion laughing his billion dollar head off at these stupid comments!
Alright... "Gosh..." and anyway I'm not going to be afraid if I will be going to the "Underworld" by a "Supreme Being" who was dreamt up by people who were then considered by the Romans as "cultists"...
He should have showed some of the videos like "Bill Gates Runs Like A Girl" that would have been a big smack on the face! Steve Jobs impersonator can be seen on the screen. XD
i tyoed rawr to get here 0_o
TeamDesolate 4 months ago
Bill Gates < Lil Wayne
MrReman23 7 months ago
I can see him quietly thinking "Somebody's going to get fired today"
drrobertoboogie97 10 months ago 4
Youtube changed over the years.
alex054739 11 months ago
woah, he actually watches Youtube videos!? I love you Bill Gates!!
kirter23 1 year ago
lol, gotta love bill gates :D
xyzqwa 1 year ago
I believe, that Bill don't give a fuck about these videos, hence he knew what will appear in ytube.
ray4ix 1 year ago
@ray4ix exactly he's a CEO he knows how to plan ahead at least he learned, this is for the public to make him look dumb, human and accesible. We should ask bill gates why windows comes with remote shared enabled by defautl IPC$
ElPeruanoUFO 1 year ago
Wow, Gates has the epitome of nerd-voice. Also, Ballmer is a fucking lunatic.
hotelmario510 1 year ago 5
even tou gill gates is not a saint for running the monopoly of evil closed source software, what he displays here is the face of america against a person that act reasonable.
ElPeruanoUFO 1 year ago
Back when IE6 used to work with YouTube. Wow...
stonecrestmovies 1 year ago
testing
1962SatanTookOver2 1 year ago
fuck u tube for makeing fun of bill gates
IAMMAFINN 1 year ago
not sometimes a loser e.e often loser e.e
iRitute 1 year ago
Bill Gates is sometimes a loser
marzka2016 1 year ago
wow youtube was like a week old when this was made look a the vid format when he searches his name lol
-VISTA SUCKS
KartKing4ever 2 years ago
bill gates is a damn rich motherfucker
hunili 2 years ago 3
@hunili rich with tramp dress lol
jacck123 2 years ago
@jacck123 lol yeah
hunili 2 years ago
And he runs like a girl
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
lol,did you know that he can jump over a chair?
hunili 2 years ago
And he DO run like a girl :D
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
yeah but its still fascinating that he can jump over a chair=)
hunili 2 years ago
Hay dood =D
did i tell you that he also runs like....
uh...
a GIRL
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
lol.........um,im pretty sure you told me that twice
yeah he runs like a girl^^
hunili 2 years ago
Maybe he can jump over a chair to...
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
....theres a powerful evidence video on youtube,of bill gates jumping over a chair....
hunili 2 years ago
iSaw the ideo xD
therz a /,,/, PovveR /,,/, FULL evidence veedeow on utub, of beelgaytz runeeng liek a Gierl
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
yeah.........i saw tha power fullll evidence video of billl gatez running like a girl
hunili 2 years ago
┌─┐
┴─┴
ಠ_ರೃ
can i buy your evidences?
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
....well,how much would you pay?....
hunili 2 years ago
It depends, how much you think it costs?
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
im not so sure about the price......20$?
hunili 2 years ago
LoL
i said evidences?!
i mean your SOUL Mr.hunili
i want to buy your SOUL
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
yes, you said evidences!!!
well,my soul is priceless
im sorry,i dont sell my soul
cuz of its dark powerful strength
ooooh,you wrote on your channel,that your from brazil
actually im from brazil too
hunili 2 years ago
Ur from Austria ಠ_ಠ
senão você entenderia isso.
and you like awakekyes what makes your soul abit more cheap.
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
eu entendo sim
e o que vc que dizer com awakeekyes?
is that a word?
hunili 2 years ago
Slipknot (shitknot) ao contrário.
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
shitknot o seu cu
hunili 2 years ago
Se é pra gostar de new metal, ouve new melodeath metal que é WAAAAaaaayy better
ilhadosmacacos 2 years ago
quem disse que eu so gosto de new metal`?
eu gosto de old metal tambem
melodeath metal?
brutal death metal e melhor
CANNIBAL CORPSE!!!
eu noa conheco nem uma boa melodeath metal
hunili 1 year ago
Bem... Se você gosta de Brutalidade, você gosta de Technical Death Metal? é o meu estilo favorito :D Cannibal é classico :P
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
sim,cannibal classico,vc so gosta do old cannibal corpse?
eu gosto do new cc e do old
o meu estilos favoritos sao death metal e black metal
melodic death metal
e symphonic black metal tambem
vc sabe,cannibal corpse,dimmu borgir,gorgoroth bands like that
hunili 1 year ago
Eu não conheço direito o Death metal em si, só os sub gêneros (Deathcore, melodeath, technical deathmetal, progressive Death metal, math metal...) Also, eu gosto muito de Symphonic Black metal e Black metal, mas eu não conheço as bandas direito, só Dimmu borgir e gorgoroth (lol), você podia me ajudar hein? (cutucada no braço)
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
of course,i help you^^
eu nao conheco muitas death e black metal bands,eu conheco mais bands de sub generos
cryptopsy,hacksore,deeds of flesh e carnal decay soa death metal,carnal decay e o meu favorito desses quatros
black metal eu conheco mayhem,darkthrone,gorgoroth,burzum
de symphonic black metal eu so conheco dimmu borgir.......
vc conhece cradle of filth?
eles nao soa black metal,eles soa extreme gothic
hunili 1 year ago
Parece que você gosta da parada mais brutal... As músicas brutais tem muita melodia sim, mas ñ da pra ouvir nada, e nem da a sessação de que existe. Acho que brutalidade eu gosto só na hora do breakdown, por isso eu gosto mais de technical. Eu vou dar uma olhada nessas bandas aí :D
Eu achava que o cradle era melodeath D:
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
lol,eu gosto de melodias,like in dimmu borgir
hunili 1 year ago
Eu ñ quiz dizer que você ñ tem gosto, só que gosta de ouvir música sem melodia exageradamente perceptivel , é... como o Dimmu.
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
e eu entendi sim,i was just saying.
lol
hunili 1 year ago
Só pra reforçá xD
ei!
bora destruir os coments desse vídeo?
fazer comment negativo, contrariar qualquer coisa que o povo falar...
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
lool
we filled 3 pages with comments
how about dont delete them?
hunili 1 year ago
Yep, but i am talking about encher o saco do povo que comentar /,,/,
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
lol
hunili 1 year ago
Bora?
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
bora?
hmmm
essa palavra eu nao conheco
hunili 1 year ago
Abreviação de....
esquece...
Aceita?
ilhadosmacacos 1 year ago
sim
hunili 1 year ago
PWN3D!!!!!11!!!!!1!11one!!1!!!
P3OPLE 2 years ago 4
"Bill Gates....Pamela Anderson.....well, it's not working so well". I guess he's not impressed because he's already very well acquainted with huge boobs......such as steve ballmer.
hankscorpiouk 2 years ago 20
steve ballmer is sexy
alessandro86bonollo 2 years ago 6
kill yourself
mason210 2 years ago 2
the way he says bill gates celebrity deathmatch is so funny!
saint1997 2 years ago 4
Can you tell me what Bill said first? Bill gates selected lots of mac?
GTAGAMECounterShot 2 years ago 3
lol I have the girl running one on my channel.
manindermaninder 2 years ago
And you like cars.
Theelinrot 2 years ago
lmfao he got pwnd
networksport1111 2 years ago
LMAO
gambler6 2 years ago
It's no wonder there's no web browser on the Xbox 360.
Varkeil 3 years ago
lol
superman559cali 3 years ago
"It's not working as well as I thought it would"
Priceless.
chemicalsora 3 years ago 3
An average computer running windows - 500 dolars. Computer mouse - 35 dollars. "Its not working as well as i though it would - Priceless.
TylersTechReviews 3 years ago
this is priceless
geardude56 3 years ago
have any continued part???so cool
L17061412 3 years ago
Bill Gates is a cool guy, but the video where he runs like a girl is still funny as hell.
GTA4secretEnding 3 years ago 4
Who cares how he runs? Big fucking whoop.
Punniabi 3 years ago 4
Yeah he is still 400 billion dollars richer than us. He probaly wipers his ass with $100 notes.
sebbird08 3 years ago
Try 58 billion.
chrisybwell 3 years ago
Ok but who cares. I was just guessing.
sebbird08 3 years ago 2
That is a damn bad guess.
I guessed 64 billion before I looked at it. But then I forgot he wasn't the richest person any more and that he would never be the richest again.
If William wipes his ass with $100 bills (pardon the pun), then Warren Buffet wipes his ass with $106.89...IM A VIRGIN!!!
chrisybwell 3 years ago
Bill Gates runs his company like a girl.
TankMage11 3 years ago
And I guess you run like a girl. Otherwise you'd talk like a man and ... to put it simply : say nothing unless asked to or in case needed be. I didn't ask you anything ( neither did anyone here ) and you needn't say such stupidity. It only shows your true nature ...
PS : Explain me how you'd run that company and how it would be better.
rpaslux 3 years ago 5
Yeah, and you should mind your own business. I'm saying that because women run companies pretty well from what I heard, so when I say Bill Gates runs his company like a girl, I'm saying that he's doing a great job running his company as a CEO.
TankMage11 3 years ago
Sorry if I misunderstood your idea. Usually people compare men with women with an objective of hurting the man. That's exactly what I understood from what you wrote. It doesn't mean you meant it like that, I just understood it that way.
And how would I know you meant it as a compliment if so many people do it for the reason I told you -- to offend the man ?
You should have wrote more stuff so anyone who reads it can understand your point instead of judging it like I did.
rpaslux 2 years ago
Well, I guess I see two objectives here, well now everyone knows what I meant here =P
TankMage11 2 years ago
no one asked you to post your retarded aggressive comments here so why violate the law you just made up yourself? don't think people will just wait for you to ask for something they can answer to...
comprehentionoflife 2 years ago
Haha people are a bunch of morons hating Bill Gates. I mean, I don't like the guy, his products may not be top quality, but I see no reason to hate him either. Probably because the guy makes a lot of money selling crappy buggy products that are too complicated for the cognitively challenged average person to use. That is why they shift to Apple, because it is more "accessible". Most people who hate him are probably using Windows OS in their computers right now. Bah. Morons.
JCMac777 3 years ago
Ridiculous rumors fly that he's evil, and that he's in league with the devil, sold his soul to become filthy rich. I don't really know where people get their irrational fears from. Perhaps because most people need something or someone to deride just so they can feel better and ignore their own inadequacies and failures.
JCMac777 3 years ago
lol i guess he was looking for something that didn't roast him
glaked23 3 years ago
talk about anal humour, dreary geek
mrrotweiler2 3 years ago
Kill bill xD, he runs like a girl...hahahahhaah
Macandapplevids 3 years ago
ahhaha
tandis97 3 years ago
lmao that is funny but let me jut say...i run the apple mac osx and i can assure you...it doesnt do half the things windows xp or vista did i have always used mac thats wat i am using rite now if i cud get a new comp i wud get windows vista ultimate mac osx does not come to competition at all with Microsoft
greatbrita 3 years ago
vista sucks
TehNoobinShow 3 years ago
Interesting... make some examples! I switched from Win to Mac and I don't see it whis way :)
ZioZambe 3 years ago
Look! Billy is selfdefending his Vista hahaha. NOOB!
MullenThomas1507 3 years ago
lol
gabx007 3 years ago
XBOX RULES!!!!!!!
narutorocker30 3 years ago 2
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XBOX RULES
MICROSOFT SUCKS
lol
ilkiepie45 3 years ago
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lol ikiepie xbox sux
microsoft rocks
Senquell 3 years ago
wow senquell your sure smart [sarcastic]
VERT160 3 years ago
Vert160
what did i say?
i can't find my comment xD
Senquell 3 years ago
you said microsoft sucks and 360 ownz
VERT160 3 years ago
no i didn't ??;p
Senquell 3 years ago
i sad
lol ikiepie xbox sux
microsoft rocks
and i know xbox is from microsoft
Senquell 3 years ago 2
uhhh....The xbox was made by microsoft!
IDIOTIC NOOB!!
pintend 3 years ago 6
kolo,okokllokll
SonyVegasTutor 3 years ago
bill gates is cool
alienblood666 3 years ago 2
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its fake u see the top number hes usimg fraps
fathao98 3 years ago
and... your point is?? that doesnt mean its a fake.....
Stefan1126 3 years ago
haha made me laugh
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This is the person I hate the most in the planet 2nd by bush. They both are evil and sinful they have done to us all.
Leny1777 3 years ago
you really have no clue. Do you have any idea how much money bill gates donates to charity?
How much good have you done to "us all"?
somefuckstolemynick 3 years ago 23
Supporting foriegn countries?
Bill Gate need to wise up and know that screwing people with a forced Windows Vista is not way to fundraise a foundation.
Won't matter what I say any way because he left the company. Steve Ballmer is worser than Bill Gate, he is nothing but a ball of chain.
Bopkasen 3 years ago
I agree. I really like Bill Gates him self but I don't always like the products his former company releases.
Ballena1337 3 years ago 2
Bill gates please subscribe to me XD
Nontas1993 3 years ago
Huh?
CERNOBE 4 years ago
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This is not the real Bill Gates fools, the real Bill Gates is in Hong Kong....
danielpetertai 4 years ago
Of course this is the real bill gates.
rollinroll 4 years ago 5
this was added in may 2006 actually i dont think he works for microsoft more i think he retired :/
steffen60 3 years ago
Uh... He doesnt work for microsoft, he OWNS it.
beebogroll 3 years ago 5
true, but I heard somewhere that he got bored of running the company, went back to coding.
somefuckstolemynick 3 years ago 2
dude bill gates lives in seattle
Coolcow6 3 years ago
Bill... could u give a couple of milliones for cristmas (A) xD
Alex13N 4 years ago
u know what, did u see the look and body langauge after that, omg, his thinking what a world we live in, his living like how we MIGHT be living maybee maybe just maybe if we will 10 generations from now on,,
arian40 4 years ago 2
interesting foresight on your behalf! you have something there, that many people may not be thinking about. that we all will be just like that in the future! "oh some one said i was somewhere else drinking beer with someone else and here are the photos and video?" arian40, i think the future by todays standards is frighting! We all average people are not used to what Bill Gates just experienced! Interesting!
sbmrunning 4 years ago
gates=setag in latin means leopard
the gates jobs fraternity...so bush, so pussy
dhalius 4 years ago
dhalius = suilahd.. makes sense?
beebogroll 3 years ago
sallad=dallas.. makes sense?
ikemkrueger 3 years ago
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bill, i dont ur dirty money..
just go back where you come from and give us the directx sources ;P
Reissgesicht 4 years ago
i need very much money tooooooooo!!!!!!! help me bill !!! free money for me too bill????
satelliteDNScastip 4 years ago
Bill, can you donate me some milliards ?
lol2k93 4 years ago
i was just imagining what someone who doesnt understand the nerdy meaning of owning would think of this, probably, "well of course he does! i own my self, infact everyone owns himself"
adas1023 4 years ago 2
Lol at bardilla ... you truely know nothing about macs.
deadeye002 4 years ago
lol. but bill gates still a cool cat.
uummmmmmm 4 years ago
It shows character to show to the whole world that you could not care less what they think about you.
vegitax 4 years ago
bullshit, it shows his spite for the entire free world, total arrogance.
gragboop 4 years ago
Your comment is the best of all. Not a Bill Gates fan, but you're damn right.
saveoursoulissa 3 years ago
Gates owning Gates: PRICELESS
idratherbeanonymous 4 years ago
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Hey Bill can you please give me 1 000 000$,
I have nothing to eat.. Please call me on this number:0049800-666666..
Metnemtiga36 4 years ago
STARVE!
xin0 4 years ago 9
lol, iam sure he will give you tht money
lordfadel 4 years ago
PC can do everything mac can do and more, and it does everything better btw.
bardilla 4 years ago 4
you all are idiots...he had already done a search before the show...that whole bit was to promote himself and microsoft, and how there are SO many videos out there about him - i.e. he is famous, popular, and fun to make videos of...just like this video which furthur promotes microsoft, lol...idiots.
crobs808 4 years ago 4
ownage
Nomadbase1549 4 years ago
Oh ya. Bill got Owned. Oh wait, he makes more money in one year than the 36,970 people who have watched this video combined.
But ya.. he got owned.... idiots.
dameonk 4 years ago 2
he earns more than that in a day
DanReborn 4 years ago
lol
BigLi0n 4 years ago
One word... Owned.
spamdude69 4 years ago
And... he created MSN Soapbox. Faker! ... And there was a definite frame of that Steve Jobs impressionist in the 'Bill Gates Runs Like A Girl'. If he played that video in that event, I bet the world will explode. It's this one, made by G4TV: watch?v=Sckba-EX5MM
PenaltyKillah 4 years ago
God the owner of this vid, must be a chav.
so yeah fuck off.
RyanStuarts 4 years ago
He didn't get owned, No one would do something like that unplanned, and I'm sure he was able to look at the titles before he spoke.
backwardscontinuity 4 years ago
Lol, thats not owned, he was just making a joke about the stupid video about him.
spOon2410 4 years ago
bill gates and pamela anderson lololololool
billycobraman 4 years ago
Any ideas what he was going to show really?
killabozz 4 years ago
Who makes 4 Million dollars a day and 300 dollars a second?
serpento99 4 years ago
I Really respect this man.. he is a professional!
juidas 4 years ago
LMAO he got OWNED
hoony915 4 years ago
He looks and talks like the guy out of of Short Circuit aka Johnny 5 LOL
zippy930 5 years ago
i bet he was blushing HA
VampireHorrorGirl 5 years ago
Do tech work on That crap and you will hate him. Blue screen blue screen Gets old
jdfreak 5 years ago
lol, well said.
MyJelleo 4 years ago
It would be 20x better if he saw the video of himself praising the Mac from 1984. ^_^
Kragnerac 5 years ago
i wonder if hes gay...
canihelpu123 5 years ago
he isn't. your gay
classicdr 5 years ago
You know what's really gay? You having sex with your dad.
MyJelleo 4 years ago
That is very true.
theheaddoctor 4 years ago
ill imagine if that browser was firefox...
pudding696 5 years ago
You think billion dollar bill really gives a billion dollar damn about these stupid comments peeps?? He is probably sitting at home in his billion dollar mansion laughing his billion dollar head off at these stupid comments!
Webster04 5 years ago
I agree, he don't give a shit. He got money.
michaelfougnie2 4 years ago
*doesn't.
*He's
arcticpew 4 years ago
LOL, BILL GATES PAMELA ANDERSON XX :D
stevenup7002 5 years ago
God... if he is so rich... then why not he hire some speech guy to tune up his nerdy gay voice?
(Hey! He should open up that Bill Gates runs like a girl video... there's a Steve Jobs impersonator there and it'll embarass him like hell!!!
PenaltyKillah 5 years ago
Don't use God's name in vain!
drzclassic 4 years ago
Alright... "Gosh..." and anyway I'm not going to be afraid if I will be going to the "Underworld" by a "Supreme Being" who was dreamt up by people who were then considered by the Romans as "cultists"...
PenaltyKillah 4 years ago
He should have showed some of the videos like "Bill Gates Runs Like A Girl" that would have been a big smack on the face! Steve Jobs impersonator can be seen on the screen. XD
PenaltyKillah 5 years ago
Why would you run like a girl on stage? That is just idiotic.
Viewtubeboy 5 years ago
Why not?
ChunkeyNoodles 5 years ago
honestly why not? It's cool.
drzclassic 4 years ago
He did do that on purpose.
Disappearer88 5 years ago
LOL this proves that Bill Gates doesn't give a damn that people make fun of him.
Hey and WTF with the Bill Gates & Pamela Anderson video? Haven't seen it anywhere.
Cenobite321 5 years ago
Bill Gates runs like a girl? Bill Gates can BUY ur girl... and her mother. How about that.
SHDJEN 5 years ago
lol.That's true.
drzclassic 4 years ago