The Devil's Deception Of The Khawarij Part 1

[alnarweeg92]

@BosnianSunni

how is he a khawarij?

[alnarweeg92]

@KhalidBinWalid1

the defenition of khawarijieen is that they kill muslim and leave non.muslims alone

do taliban and al qaeda leave non muslims alone???

"...they would kill the followers of Islam and would spare the idol-worshippers. They would glance through the teachings of Islam so hurriedly just as the arrow passes through the pray. If I were to ever find them I would kill them like 'Ad.

[Sahih Muslim: Book 005, Number 2318]

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 Actually Al-Qaieda and Taliban do just that! They kill muslim! Both.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96

wow you really trust the jewish media dont you?

"The time will be years of confusion. People will believe a liar, and disbelieve one who tells the truth. People will distrust one who is trustworthy, and trust one who is treacherous." (Ibn Kathir)

and btw if they do both, they CANT be khawarij, because the khawarij only kill muslims NOT disbelievers.

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 No you ignorant person! I lived there, I'm from Afghanistan I don't trust the media since it is fully of lies. And next time think before you speak.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96

i have aslo friends who lived there(pathans,tajikis), they say just the opposite of what you are saying.

if you are meaning U.S. backed afghan soldiers getting killed by taliban, then you need to understand that these people have allied themself with the kuffar ! wich is HARAM in islam.

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 Exactly it is kuffar in Islam also known as khawarij! Mujahdeen were good people Taliban are not! The only Muhajideen that did right thing was from Kandahar he was called Lion of Kandahar, but they killed him poisoned him.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96

so you are saying that the afghan soldier are kuffar? good.

i dont know wich person you talked about, but if he was fighting for communism, socialism or opium he was not a mujahid. and the taliban do not kill innocent muslims. they only kill those who are in the afghan army,spies/informants and the americans and her allies.

finito/finished

salaam

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 Dude The Mujahideen were good but they don't exist no more! The Taliban kill Muslims! Now Afghanistan is an Islamic state so even the Afghan Army is Muslim. It always been like that even at the time when Russians came! Afghanistan is the only Muslim country that always stayed an Islamic Republic, it's communist party which I hate! Was Muslim too even though they liked communism they prayed 5 TIMES a day. The Taliban now kill Muslims mostly women. That is Haram!

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96

well people who fights for democracy and fight against the banner of 'la ilah ila allah, muhammadun rasulullah' are not muslims..

well produce your proof, give me proof of what you have said about the taliban

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 Who are you to judge who is Muslim and who is not? For those who believe in democracy they think that it is them that are fighting for the banners of Islam! And the other group think it is them who are actually fighting for the banner of Islam. ONLY Allah knows best! PESHAWAR – On September 6, the Taliban struck again during Ramadan, killing 19 people, including four schoolchildren, nine fasting policemen and a fasting schoolteacher in an attack on a police station in Lakki Marwat.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96 Muhammad (saw) said whoever fights and dies under a flag other than the flag of 'la ilaha il allah'

will go to hell.. so i am only judging by what Muhammad(saw) have said. and if they are ignorant and dont know this, may Allah have mercy on them, and lead them to the truth.

to kill children is never intended. the sahaba(raa) and Muhammad(saw) killed children, when they fought against the disbelievers, they (sahab & muhammad) did not intend it. it is strictly forbidden to kill children

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 First of all brother you better choose your words carefully! Prophet Muhammad (SAW) or the Sahaba(R.A) never killed children! Prophet Muhammad (SAW) himself said when fighting a Jihad don't kill children or women! Now as for fighting under a flag, Prophet Muhammad told people of that period hence all Muslims were one and not divided! Now Muslims have different flags such as Saudi Arabia and Canada, both have Muslims, that doesn't mean if one dies under that flag is a kaffir.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96 First of all brother,you should have read this hadith before you said "

"The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They are from them (i.e. pagans)." Sahih Bukhari 4:52:256

children where killed in this raid

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 No you assume that. See without guidance of an Imam you will be lost! First of all no where does it say that they did such a thing! Second of all you are giving a bad image of Islam to people!, Second of all the Hadith that you just mentioned, contradicts many upon many other Hadiths. There fore as of now Scholars are actually saying that tradition of al-Sa‘b b. Jaththamah has been abrogated. This Hadith is not authentic better lucy next time. And bro don't you need guidance.

[alnarweeg92]

@afg96

it is a saheeh hadith.. it is many other hadeeths like this..

yes some scholars may say this, but the majority dont.

it is authentic, that is why it is classed as a sahih..

ofcourse i need guidance, that is why in the prayer it is said : "Guide us to the straight path" 5x a day.

i am not saying i am a better believer than you. i am just giving you hadiths etc.

wassalam

[afg96]

@alnarweeg92 Brother I'm worried for you. Just because it is from Sahih Bukhari or Sahih Muslim, or Sahih Tirmidhi doesn't mean all the saying are authentic In fact majority of scholars believe that in many of these Hadith there are some that are not authentic such as a narrator was known at that time to have memory problems just like someone else told me once about a Hadith when I asked why it wasn't authentic. Now what you provided is not authentic and no scholar agrees with it. I can prove it

[alithelin1234]

@afg96

There is ijmaa of muhaditheen that hadith in bukhari and muslim are 100% sahih.

[alithelin1234]

@afg96

Anyone who oppose is commiting huge deviance.

[afg96]

@alithelin1234 He disapproved of the killing of women and children. It is also in the Bible which we suppose to use as reference when it agrees with the Sunnah.! So you my friend don't know what you are talking about! It clearly goes against Islam! That is why it is not authentic!

[alithelin1234]

@afg96

LOL BIBLE you muyst be kidding me man, HAHAHAHA.You cant use bible as evidence

[afg96]

@alithelin1234 Brother don't come here thinking that you are a scholar! That perticular Hadith verse going against all the other verses in Hadith Bukhari such as Narrated 'Abdullah: During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 257), It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah SAW

[afg96]

@alithelin1234 Brother please calm your nerves down! I think you been brain washed! This is only one verse! By As-Sab bin Jaththama and It contradicts about 20 other Verses! Because they are opposite of one another! I will send you the proof through PM! okay! Of course there could also be another meaning to that Hadith Verse! Narrated By 'Abdullah : During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children (Bukhari)

[AbuAbdullahUK]

Just type: YOUTUBE(.)COM like you normally do, then copy and paste this next to it:

/watch?v=jv0eACwzGdA&feature=r­elated

[AbuAbdullahUK]

Stay away from Abdullah Faisal. He is a Jaahil, extremist Kharijee. You can find out more about this abdullah faisal here:

/watch?v=jv0eACwzGdA&feature=r­elated

Listen carefully to the Q & A (parts 1 and 2) and see for yourself!

[AbuAbdullahUK]

Lol, how ironic, and funny, that faisal should give a lecture on the 'khawaarij', when HE, himself, IS a Kharijite!

[abudujana13]

JAZAKALLAH KHAIRAN

[butshekana]

And the harsh reality is anybody can grow a beard + wear a white cap then call himself a Shiekh even though he has no Hukm just a Agenda to Americanize Islam

Long live the Mujahideen long live Islam Long live Mullah Omar Mujahid

[TheSilverSultan4]

@butshekana hahhaha Mullah Omar, where did he get his credentials, what islamic schools? AlAzhar

you are Khawarij for liking Talibans for killing and suicide bombings, lame

[butshekana]

@BosnianSunni And was Shiekh Ramadahnee a Mujahid who did Jihad in Afghanistan ? No didn't think so ,also the Taliban don't get along with Sufi's go check Al Jazeera right now ,only some Indians and Pakistanis are deobandi no Afghan that I know of follows that.Its good to know that the Kuffar paid off Murtadine shiekhs to give the Mujahideen a bad name Alhamdulilah and they use the Quran to Justify their puppet kuffary also their Murtadiness

[butshekana]

@BosnianSunni and why would you have a picture of A shiia depiction of Ali ? as your display picture if your "SUNNI"

[butshekana]

@BosnianSunni That's a veryIgnorant assumption ,do you have proof of this allegations against the Amir Al Mumineen? and they're way ahead of us because I remember during the Taliban regime taught Ahlul Sunnah Aqeeda in their Madrassas (Sahih al bukhari ect) and don't forget that this ummah is one, race is not a factor remember when Some Mujahideen from Afghanistan went to Bosnia to fight the serbs.

[butshekana]

@BosnianSunni I don't know about those shiekhs but if they preach about "Jihad" and their not doing it then they are Munafiqeen, but Osama even said that he had nothing to do with 9/11 and these days any 10 year old kid can make his video using windows movie maker.But as long as you except Mullah Omar Mujahid as the Emir Al mumineen then its all good akhi

[butshekana]

@BosnianSunni Whom are you talking about?

[MuslimahUnity]

@BosnianSunni

Their are TWO diffrent Jihad's In Al-Munjid, the words Jaahada, Mujaahada and Jihadan means, ‘exerting effort and ability to push the other away’. “And those who strive in Our cause ‘Jaahadu’- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right.” (tmq 29:69). then their is Jihad which means a struggle in the way of Faith.

[MuslimahUnity]

@BosnianSunni

Exactly, they speak to the Muslims and tell them they will go to Jannah for killing people without any reason, yet the odd thing is that Muslims, are instead killed each day, rather then the"enemies", walahi this world is crazy, we need to learn Islam correctly and seek education, if we were smarter this problem could be avoided. And Jihad is not fighting in the battle field it's a struggle in the way of your religion.

[MuslimahUnity]

@BosnianSunni

Yes you have a point their, but they are brain washing our people, telling them to kill but Muslims are only killing muslims!!

[MuslimahUnity]

@BosnianSunni

Shame on Him and Osama they ruined the Muslim world

[butshekana]

@MuslimahUnity So when Osama was fighting the Communists in the 1980s he was a hero right? and now when America needs Afghanistan's natural-gas Pipeline he is a terrorist ? its actually the fault of the so called "Muslim leaders" who are the puppets of the kuffar taking Dollars for trading in their own Muslim brothers.Everybody knows that 9/11 was a inside job and Millions of Muslims are being killed in Astan,iraq,palestine,somilia and chechenya

[MuslimahUnity]

@butshekana I am basically., blaming every single leader in this issue!. I am blaming, Osama, the American Government, the Afghanistan Government.. and etc. You see these people have the responsibility of governing and taking care of certain issue yet look, how ignorant they are!. It just makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it. Human beings are horrible, horrible people.

[butshekana]

@MuslimahUnity Then you should know that the Americans control the Afghan puppet regime of Hamid Karzai his brother controls all the Heroine in Afghanistan

[israelifaggot]

this imam has some rather deviant views.

[EliasZakariya]

@israelifaggot The Sheik is correct according to Islamic History. These are not his views but those of the Khawarij.

[israelifaggot]

@EliasZakariya, no i am just talking generally, sheikh abdullah al faisal has made some rather extreme comments that are not part of Islam. i do like his views on shia, al walaa wal baraa and democracy though.

[EliasZakariya]

@israelifaggot May Allah guide us all Inshallah. We are all prone to mistakes, misguidance, and giving in to our own desires. Hence why today, though important to stick with the main body of Muslims, it is also important to strictly bind our selves to Qurran and Sunnah of Rasooloolah (SAW). Make dua for the sheiks and the Ummah aqeeh. Asallamu Walaikum Arahama tulahi wabarakatahu.

[abudujana13]

JAZAKALLAH KHAIRAN