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  • You can pitch your drum samples(kicks, 808s and toms) to match your mix if you want your melodies and chord progressions to really sound off and be the main drive for your track. sometimes its not necessary if you have a track that is mainly driven by a tight drum progressions. I highly suggest tuning kicks and toms if your going to sample, sampled beats with off drums sounds horrid -.-

  • I'd say a low F is the limit not an E. and both are quite a bit below 60. an E is probably closer to 45

  • he's right, when an 808 is tuned a major first to the primary melody, it sounds awful. ANY drum with intonation: congas, 808's, etc, if they're not in tune, it sounds horrible

  • @sonick808 wtf is a major first?

  • @rillloudmother It's an interval between notes on a keyboard. Play a C, and play the D to the right of it, it creates a sound that sounds displeasing or clashing to most, UNLESS it's in a chord context where it causes flavor. Most poeople would "feel" a kick drum in C in a song with a key of D to be extremely out of tune.

  • @sonick808 correction, it's an interval between notes, period. Can be on a keyboard, anything for that matter.

  • @sonick808 C to D is a major 2nd C to Db is a minor 2nd, there is no interval called a first.

  • @rillloudmother you're absolutely right. C to E is major third, why did I invent a first ? Removing foot from mouth

  • @sonick808 ok, i was wondering if it was a term i wasn't familiar with.

  • honestly everyone has there preference it really just comes from what type of music your producing im a hip hop and R&B producer and in most cases the 808 is in the same exact key of the song to give it a more drive to it but in other cases if im trying to create more of a jezzy type feel ill leave it mono tone and go from the 1 to the 5 or 1 to the 4 depending on what im doing. and when it comes to pop rock and all that its just a different sound for each element .

  • its called timbre matching

  • @SeedlessBeatz nah! I have some decent Monitors...I just come from an era when this type of sonic clarity was not possible my ears prefer a more "dirty" sound. As for the lows there is a particular frequency range I prefer to hear where optimum sound travels through most speakers thats all.

  • Chick: And what hz is that?

    Scott: ehhh y'know 60 ehhhuhehhh 80?

    haha XD

  • I guess im old school cuz I prefer the sound when the drums clash or even override everything but I dont like when they are to low they dont sound good on most speakers

  • Haha, the false answer, "u have to try"

    Me i hear "I will not share my revenue source with you, coz once everybody will know how it's so simple, I will have no job anymore"

    Or maybe I'm a hater :P

  • Dude storch is a beast! kills every beat he makes!

  • If you wanna tune kicks to the key of the song, go to Reason's NN-XT, load a kick in there then set root notes to pitch detection then put your kick on the root of the key.

  • @flokid11 I didn't know this. This will help my workflow even more. I tried it and it works thanks man.

  • Scott is absolutely correct. I miss hearing his shit on the radio.  SCOTT, where-you-be-at???

  • is he blind?

  • scoot storch kind of looks like the hamburgler.

  • lol @ at all the wack producers commenting like they know more than the motherfucking legend Scott Storch

  • faggot bounce it to hardware and then get a fat sound then if you really need to side chain it to the bass if you want a pumping action to it....i hate it when faggots talk about the music when its all about what you hear if it sounds good its good

  • faggot bounce it to hardware and then get a fat sound then if you really need to side chain it to the bass if you want a pumping action to it....i hate it when faggots talk about the music when its all about whayout hear if it sounds good its good

  • its a BASS DRUM you hick...

  • @MrGraffitiAmsterdam juist jij snapt het. Dit probeer ik mensen al jaren bij te brengen maar ik denk 90% van de hedendaagse "hiphop" producers snapt dit concept gewoon niet....

    Het geen kwestie van smaak maar gewoon muziek technisch niet handig...

  • @MrGraffitiAmsterdam Ja oke ik was misschien een beetje rationaal. Maar snap je wat ik bedoel? Ik heb het tegen de gasten die altijd alleen maar de 808 drumkit gebruiken, en verder niks. Ik gebruik zelf ook soms een 808 kick om het wat dikker te maken hoor, maar ik bedoel dat mensen niet altijd dezelfde, onoriginele dingen moeten doen.

  • his voice? first time i heard him speak

  • he looks like a jewler at a flea market bout to rip u off

  • if your bass interrupts with ur 808 kick, follow my tip: dont use that gay 'kick'

  • this guy is on so much coke right now :D

  • scott storch is a thief

  • he knows what he talkin bout, i make the same mistake with the 808

  • @DBoneProductionsTV cant you just tune it?

  • The man who single handedly blew up the best artists ever 50 cent, right here. Such a beast.

  • HE LOOKS LIKE SUCH A DOUCHE

  • good info

  • LOL 60hz...thats like...a A key...lol!!!

  • Tuning kicks is probably more of a "ping pong" sounding cheap ass hip hop drums. It's not something commonly done in serious music (rock, pop, country, metal, jazz).

  • @Vanjal Oh really? Drummers never tune their kits before recording?

  • @lyrix15 No I didn't say that. Drummers always tune the kit and that's mandatory. Especially when recording. I say that tuning your kick (or any other kit piece) to a key of the song and even CHANGING tune when song progress in other harmony is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Maybe with 808 in rap or something but no serious producers is chasing back harmony and trying to match drum set tune with melody and harmony of the song.

  • @Vanjal why is black music not serious music and why is that the stupidest thing you have ever heard? I have actually worked with a band that wanted to tune all their instruments so that they matched the frequency of the earth (430hz instead of 440). Might sound stupid but I never felt it was stupid to experiment and as long as you get the results you are looking for I have know problem with any gimmicks as strange as they might sound. In some situations it might be cool if the kick matches.

  • @lyrix15 I absolutely agree with you. On every aspect. You SHOULD do whatever makes you imagination blossom and make you productive. I didn't say "black" music I said hip hop/rap because I was referring to guy in this video. I watched a LOT of rap producers on YouTube and listened of course to a lot of that music and they really don't know what they're doing. Mostly...except if they are Tony Maserati :) So..I'm not disrespectful but it's a total another dimension from engineering.

  • @Vanjal Scott Storch doesn't only produce hip hop/rap he produces black music in general. Apart from that I have to agree with you to a certain extend. The term producer is starting to become a mixture of songwriter/composer and engineer. Scott Storch is not an audio engineer. He has people who mix and master his work. Alot of "beat" producers on youtube dont have a clue about engineering but they have a clue about arrangement. Tony Maserati is an engineer therefore he has a clue about mixing.

  • @Vanjal In my opinion producers only need to have the ability to create a good rough mix so that the engineers know what the producer wanted everything to sound like. The engineer then perfects the mix by giving it signal depth, localization and layering frequencies.

  • @lyrix15 I really think you should change your mentality. Such approach will give your music a disadvantage during the writing stage. Most engineers DONT know whats in your mind, because everyone thinks different, so it's best you learn how to do what you want during the writing phase... and then the engineer can take what you've done and NOT perfect it, but give it an edge WITHOUT changing whats there, but bring it to life just a little bit more. Think more independance rather than dependance.

  • @arkangelio I actually studied audio engineering before working as a producer so I only have an external mastering engineer. I just think that people like Scott Storch have their engineers who know what kind of sound they want and thats why they dont have to worry about the techtalk of engineering. I think it all depends on what kind of producer you really are..

    When I work on a track I engineer almost everything while composing and alot of people I know work this way is that what you meant?

  • @lyrix15 Yeah, I just believe that Writing / Producing / Engineering all inter-cross and should be considered from start to end of the track. This way, it's always in your control from day one... not to mention the work would be a lot more organised thus making it a lot easier for the engineer to get his head around the track, which will in turn help the engineer understand what's in the initial producers mind. True: it does depend on what kind of producer you are I geuss, everyone is different.

  • @Vanjal check most of the biggest producers and tracks in hip hop and r&b and you will notice kick drum and snare and clap have been tuned into the key of the song. I have noticed this on nearly all of Timbaland, Scott Strorch, JR and Polow Da Don tracks.

  • the mans a musical genius.

  • this guy never takes his glasses off. probably high out of his mind 24/7, right on storch! fucking genius!

  • I can't believe this is an actual youtube video. Scott Storch talking about people who are pitch def? Tuning the bass to the melody of a song? Sooo music 101......Next.

  • @camploismyalias Lmao. Many professional recording engineers DON'T tune their kick drums to the rest of the song.

  • great info. I MAKE BEATS j01c89@aol.com message subject BEATS

  • Lol what hertz is that? Bit** I don't know I make music! I'm not a f**kin ELECTRICIAN! LMAO

  • freddy mercury here has talent. lots of talent on many levels.. yet, i have to mention this is a noob trick... i dont know anybody that doesnt tune their drum sounds when making a beat.. best way is to pitch up +12 so u hear it well and look at an analyzer... OR use ur ears.. OR a tuner

  • this guy looks like an idiot

  • one word: sidechain

  • Actually, I understand what Scott is saying. He's saying that some producers can't hear that the kick (especially 808's which have long musical tones) is not in the same key as the song. He prefers to match the tone of the kicks to his songs. Even if the kicks have a very short note. Having knowledge about the notes as opposed to the hz shows you are more musical than technical.

  • @davidchoimusic well put.

  • @davidchoimusic yeah you gotta have good ears. i see what scott means

  • scotts alright but he really doesnt know his stuff.

  • Actually a low E is 40hz, and nearly all rap songs have their bass between 35 and 60hz. 60 is relatively high, but it's all good

  • he looks kinda like freddy mercury.

  • its all about compression!

  • For a second there I though it was a picture.

  • hes right in tuning the kicks... but failed in the hertz! haha im guessing he didnt study mixing or sound engineering just because hes talking about "low E key" and the bass are not that good to hear at that note and then she asked him wut hertz are that? and he says 60? u can hear a great heart trembling bass at 35-40 hertz anything below that its almost unhearable

  • I knew this dude had a good ear...but he's talking about tuning an instrument that you don't exactly play "notes" with, which is kind of crazy right?

  • @GBlunted no its not... the 808 kick its composed of a distorted Sine wave and a sine wave to produce notes... try making a sond in G and play a regular Long 808 and see how it sounds

  • He makes one of the best beats what our generation gets into the ears fuck the haters im happy about the world has producer like scott storch hes a genius ok sorry for bad english people like he get my full respect they hold hip hop alive

  • Reason timbo - storch. Timbo didn't spend all his dough on blow...

  • @mrderp1000 oh god.. so what.. people make bad choices, they learn. a bad a choice doesn't trump talent. storch is a killer keyboard player.

  • @scenesteraccess dont talk to me like i know you, its simple dont hate because you wont ever make that amount of money in ur whole life, because your too dumb to focus on urself, instead of others, stupid

  • people talking shit like you'll ever make the money he makes, hes a super producer end of.

  • @righren

    lol your comment hardly makes sense. I don't know why I'm wasting my time because you likely believe you're socially adept by speaking improperly. Fun Fact: A super money making marketer is not the same as a super producer.

    Your parents must be dissappointed.

  • A Jew form Canada is the one of the top hip hop producers?, lol amazing

  • lol did he just say don't let the bass go below 60 hz? Bass should never be ABOVE 60 hz. 30-40 hz FTW

  • @ZandD

    Not a big fan of this guy but he is right. Anything below 60 hz is considered sub bass and is handled differently from a sonic standpoint in relation to kicks and basses working together within a song. At least I think thats what he meant..lol.

  • @ r u correcting a super producer?

  • @ZandD

    he said he didnt really know, he was guessing with 60hz. A low E that he is talking about is around 41hz, really you want to go from there to the D sharp around 78hz and keep your sub in that octave. Only a very limited amount of systems will go down below 40hz, most speakers wont go anywhere near there, your looking at subwoofers and very hardcore speakers only, so if you want someone with a decent set of home speakers to hear the bass your gonna have to keep it above 40, even 50 tbh.

  • @necaacen I suggest you watch my vid of my system. My peak frequency is around 33 hz and i can play way lower than 30. Bass above 50 hz sounds like shit IMO. I love the lows

  • @ZandD

    thats fair enough if you have a system that can go below 30hz, you can make music and listen to it at home. but if you are selling music you have to take into acount that 99.9999999% of music playing setups dont go below about 40hz. In an ideal world you can sit around making music in 5.1 going down to a single hz and still sell enough to make a living but its not going to happen any time soon sadly. I hear what ur saying I love low subs but hes making pop music ultimatly.

  • @ Storch

    You are a douchebag and this interview proves your complete lack of musical sense.

  • Scott Storch is a douchebag! Most mainstream hiphop is far less than a superior form of music. It saddens me to see all of these worthless producers getting paid for such disgraceful sounds.

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  • What program does he use? And how does he "fine tune" them?

  • he is so right about modulating a song's key to have 808 subs blowing through speakers.

  • look at his fucking face, looks like a fag.

  • at least he is actually a proper musician who understands how sounds are structured.

  • Omg He's So White!?

  • haha, scott storch, take your fucking glasses off for once in your life.

  • he acts like a boss but dude doesnt sound like one. not a bad producer though

  • dont hate if you gonna call him a nerd at least call him a fresh ass nerd that has millions and has lots of talent n makes incredible beats.

  • I have all the factory sounds from every drum machine made in the last 20 years including the AKAI MPC range with MPC programs and much more all in high quality 24Bit .wav.

    Trust me, you want it I got it I have everything!

    Contact me for a full list and remember to keep those beatz bangin!

  • @thesamplequeen

    famous "200 drums machine torrent"

    It sucks, go goldbaby stuff. Amazing.

  • hes high

  • timbo > storch when explaining there producing, scott fell off after the roots

  • @soneoo i'm not some storch slappy but his best production came after the roots co-producing still DRE

  • type altoneugene2 in the search and vote for him pls

    his track is TOO COLD!!!!!

  • @GILakaGP3 i think you are the one watching a 2:26 video of someone you dont like and comment ....

    who is the nerd????????

  • Dude is a fuck'n nerd

  • yeah but he makes beats that you couldn't even dream of making

  • when the interviewr doesnt know SHIT about beat making, the interview is gon be wack as fuck!!!

  • He's ugly and the god damn shades ..........

  • Watch out for The Chemist  Scott Yeah!!!

  • hes right at the end tho... the lower the frequency the more power needed

  • just add auto tune to the kick!!!! Hahahaha

  • LMFAO

  • @BeatPerfection LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @BeatPerfection

    your ignorant...

  • @fcmilsweeper9 you're a joke, just like my comment

  • @BeatPerfection HHA nahhh dont add autotune to a kick...

    in logic you use a test osc and make it to a sub freq with the chord or melody and then you can use that to have to bottom of the kick with it...then youu use a noise gate and have it triggered from the kick!! pow!...heavy in tune drums!

  • @DarkElixirDubstep it's easier to just load an EXS24 sampler with no instrument and the play the default sine wave on the lowest octave on the note you want, and either record it together with the kick or play it continuously and add a noise gate! But what Scott Storch means is you have to actually change the pitch of your kick sample for it to be on the key of the song.

  • @BeatPerfection Yeah thats why you load midi of the sub and it follows midi..lol!!!

    honestly this is the best way by far n easiest i think it is

  • @BlackMetalFan910

    nah he's actually right. You can tune the kick drum to the bass tune of the song. Of course, you want to keep the bass drum tuned to the song scale too, but whatever baseline you have, the kick drum should not clash with it. And I mean, the whole 'sub bass' thing, I don't think that shows a lack of expertise, I don't use the term 'sub bass' and I've been making beats for close to a decade.

  • lolz he talked all that sisnt know the rest about the bass off top lol

  • Wanna make beats like timbo and storch get at me for the kits!

  • timbo sucks... stortch is way better.

  • timbo is a fuckin thief...look for vids on youtube.. @youtube= Timbaland is a thief

  • what is an 808?

  • @liloisdro Its a kick with alot of bass in it. Used alot in Dirty South beats.

  • He's 100% right about people not tuning the bass with the rest of the song.. I hate that too : ]

  • i wondered about that tuning stuff lol thanks strch

    (Benson and Tonic)

  • lmao @ the end... what Hz is that? ... "60..imean 80? ughhhimmuh" lollll

  • wat ever happened to the storch

  • thıs man ıs the man. you no what ı prefer hım over Timbo

    scott ur my man

  • is u crazy??!!

  • Over Tim? I respect you view but readin that is like scratching a chalk board in my soul. BUT, I do admit Scott is a crazy BEAST as far as keys and beats!!!

  • Imagine what would happend if he worked with timbo

  • @vzm19glr yep don't need to imagine that just listen to Cry me a river - Justin Timberlake

  • @MrChakz timbo fails

  • @MrChakz you are sick timbo is raw talent and he is school talent

  • hes the real skateboard p im underground and i like him because he leeds away from protected info this is an art thats to exposed

  • your the man scott and by the way dont let anyone know your secrets man show them up...\\\

  • hey guys? you know why scott storch are using sunglasses all the time? beacouse his ugly like a motherfucker!!!! lolo

  • yeah like most rappers and even MJ did

  • Scott stoned

  • Het is muziek jongens, het is geen wiskunde!

  • 808's are da shit.

  • What he's talking about is when you have an 808 kick with a lot of sub base. in the 30-to 50 hz region and the key of your song is two low and has too much bottom end in that region as well. what will happen is that there will be alot of rumble and muddiness which will ruin your mix . because the kicks and base will over power the whole mix instead of just occupying the low end. a good idea is to roll off these frequencies using EQ or bring the mix up a couple octaves. Nice explanation scott

  • no not octaves.. say you're root note is in E and the 808 hits too low to sound good when you've got it tuned to the song, and you dont want to use a 5th or anything you want the 808 on the root, if you transpose it up to G or an A or something the 808 will then hit at a higher note that hits harder on speakers since a super low bass hit can only be heard on a super powerful system

  • Thanks for the response. Im a little confused do you mean the key of the song? so if the song's key is in E and you program your 808 kick to fall on a low E it won't be picked up on most systems whereas if you transpose the 808 up to a G or A the kick will come out clearer?

  • I'm saying IF you're on E and the 808, when tuned to the song, is to low (I dont know if for a fact it's too low at E, this is hypothetical).. then if you transpose the song up a couple keys (like mr storch said) it could make the 808 hit harder on a better note..

  • i think he done to many drugs or something cause hes not a very charismatic person.. first vid ive seen of this guy

  • I cant believe this dude blow over 26 million over the course of 2 years.......

  • wow he sounds like an absolute retard he cant talk for shit how many times does he say "ya know" good beats though Ya know!!

  • haaaaaaaaaaaaaterrrrrrrrrrr

    i am pretty sure you are a jew

  • FAIL!!! 2:21

  • wow he is a huge music producer, how does he not know his frequencies!!! are u kidding me, go back to school

  • lol cuz conventional knowledge isn't the only requirement for making hits.. especially in hip hop

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  • yo how much would it be to buy a beat from scott storch?? he's gud

  • probably $10,000 to $90,000 up front plus royalties

  • yeh i think it starts at either 50k or 80k, im sure i read it somewhere..

  • ova 50 mil i think.. was like 75. dude's still gud tho

  • Did she ask him what Hertz is that? I woulda been like "Bitch what did you say to me? This interview is over!" XD

  • Somebody just told me today that he blew 50 mil lasy year. How the fuck??

  • on cocaine

  • this guy is my hero!

  • this guy is blessed. good music he puts out.

  • I like Scott Storch. He makes hot beats, so what if he's white and dresses a little "too" flashy with the bling and stuff, he's awesome. And people shouldn't hate I mean bro, he's just doing his thing. He does what he does and he is very successful. I can respect that a lot.