What would you say is better for a jazz combo? My soloing has picked up momentum and opened up into unfamiliar tonal coloring. I'm looking at getting a shires or michael rath for my senior recital. Also the choice is relevant considering most of my repratoire is classical.
They are both great horns. Get the horn that feels the best, the horn that is the easiest to play etc,. If you plan to play jazz and classical on the same horn then I recommend a medium or medium large bore. Hope that helps..
Hello, I'm a trombone player and part of a jazz combo group. How do you play with the voice in addition to the horn's actual sound? I've tried a few times, but the sound I get sounds like a guttural flutter tongue, I am not sure how to do it right. Any ideas?
Bought the bell section used in 1978. It's a sterling silver "Silver Sonic" 3B. Had it gold plated later. The slide section is newer. I got it from King about 10 years ago.
@EdNeumeister nice. the 3b is definitely one of the best horns ever made. the 2b is good, but the bore is just too small to get a bigger sound out of it, that's why i like my 3b :D
I admire you're playing very much. I am a beginning trombonist, having been playing for about seven years now. I aspire to use the trombone as artistically beautiful as you do. Keep posting these improvisations I know I am not the only one who learns a great deal from them
man i might learn a bit of trombone just to learn to do this, Trombonists are so goofy ^.^ this is prolly the best sound effect i've ever heard.on the trumpet i get cows, horses, turkeys, and a motorcycle. but this takes the cake.
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this is wired, but its kool, its like didgeridoo, liek the other guy sed...its not music, its just someone muckin about with their trombone, voice and plunger
i think he's doin something called polyphonics or somethin. where he plays a note then sings like another or in this case sounds like he's saying a word ya. then he uses the mute to make the ya ya ya more dynamic.
i'm trying to learn that too... built myself a didgeridoo, its easier to learn things with it, for example the voice or circular breathing, and its really difficult to do this with the trombone too, think hes a really very good player
This is great stuff! You've always been an inspiration to the rest of us for taking trombone outside of its documented limits. These are some really great tools to add to the toolbox...thanks for the tips!
hi, im a trombone player, and i was wondering if that is just a normal sink plunger you are using, if so does it do the job well enough for big band stuff or do u recomend a proper one?
Yes, this is a normal plunger, although not really "normal" because this is the best plunger I have found. I bought it in a hardware store. I have a basket full of plungers from various hardware stores around the world. This is also the "proper" one. I have many plungers and the one I use is my favorite, of course.
Is this strictly a trombone and a plunger to make these sounds? (Along with human and voice?) It sounds like there is electronic altering, but hard to tell nad the video is blurry at times making me wonder if it was sped up/slowed down.
hey great job i have placed tons of comments on youtube to help me figure out if i should switch to trombone and need as much help as possible i have been playing trumpet for three years and am going to a small highschool and they dont have alot of trombone players or euphoneum players and am kinda leaning toward trombone but i dont know please help and wright back thanks
Well yeah. The plunger, like other mutes, gives the trombone the possibility of producing various timbres and colors. The "wah-wah" effect can be performed by simply creating a "shut-to-open" motion with the plunger whilst playing a note or playing a multiphonic.
Multiphonics, are complicated because they demand both vocal and instrumental performance. I recommend starting off with a low b-flat on the horn and singing an "F".
To produce it, it doesn't necessaringly require much changing of your embrechure, but your ability to produce a vocal sound(note of your choice) whilst vibrating your lips to maintain the note. After some practice, it becomes easier.
Just be sure to support yourself with enough air, maintain a good embrecure and vibration of the lip, and that your vocal note is well produced. You will eventually learn to not overshadow your trombones note.
WOW that was cool. As for anyone who didn't like it, all i can say is try it yourself. I'm finally trying stuff like this, but MAN is it taking a while to get comfortable with. Never seen anything this good.
hey ed i have a trumpet straight mute similar to tricky sam's nonpereil, this helps a lot when trying to produce the yah yah, but is there any secret to singing....i e like singing under or above the note, or singing with an aa instead of ee sound???? thanks anything would help.
this is great man, you should make bitches brew music where you solo like this!
seerskater 7 months ago
This is pretty cool. It's just multiphonics mixed with plunger muting, but it sounds like one of those weird 30 second songs on a TooL album.
frintong 9 months ago
YAE YAE YAEEEEEEEEEEE YAE
bob101010101010 10 months ago
the first sounds sound like louis armstrong's voice...i like that
BlakeNeo2 11 months ago
epic
MrTrombonebandgeek 11 months ago
BARNEY IS DIEING HELP HIM!!
angel171979 1 year ago 2
@angel171979 lolololol
aMoR3mio 1 month ago
Listen to my calm trombone improvisation. :)
Jaykob1M322 1 year ago
using his voice as he plays. you can "play" two notes at the same time. with your lips, and with your voice box. But man, this guy is pro....
meatkoala 1 year ago
Les champignons étaient magiques!!!
tsoval0007 1 year ago
Yahieee Yahieeee!!
StacyNB9615 1 year ago 2
Sounds like Louie Armstrong! lol ;-)
leifo5343 1 year ago
feels like being in the japan butha temple
5johani 1 year ago
fun!
5johani 1 year ago
jajajjajaj jaaaaaaaaaaaaaj
cyberry12 1 year ago
How do you "project the voice in front of the mouthpiece"? I play trumpet by the way.
AlexSchmidt1992 1 year ago
how?!
ry56789 1 year ago
(-:
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
how did u fit chewbacca in your trombone????? lolol
Jimmydatennispro 1 year ago
in my opinion its sounds very ugly xD
but its hard anyway
Stormbubi 1 year ago
What would you say is better for a jazz combo? My soloing has picked up momentum and opened up into unfamiliar tonal coloring. I'm looking at getting a shires or michael rath for my senior recital. Also the choice is relevant considering most of my repratoire is classical.
iselldummysmacks 1 year ago
They are both great horns. Get the horn that feels the best, the horn that is the easiest to play etc,. If you plan to play jazz and classical on the same horn then I recommend a medium or medium large bore. Hope that helps..
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
@EdNeumeister Excellent tip on the bore size. I'll definately keep this in mind when I get quote estimates on both horns. Thank you.
iselldummysmacks 1 year ago
You need to be singing real pitches while projecting the voice in front of the mouthpiece.
Hope that helps.
Ed
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
Hello, I'm a trombone player and part of a jazz combo group. How do you play with the voice in addition to the horn's actual sound? I've tried a few times, but the sound I get sounds like a guttural flutter tongue, I am not sure how to do it right. Any ideas?
Thanks.
Afcct12 1 year ago
Hurray for multiphonics!
a7u0g6boi 1 year ago 2
Sign me up!
barnettsky1 1 year ago
Yes
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
where did you get your bone, man?
uthspawn12 1 year ago
Bought the bell section used in 1978. It's a sterling silver "Silver Sonic" 3B. Had it gold plated later. The slide section is newer. I got it from King about 10 years ago.
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
@EdNeumeister nice. the 3b is definitely one of the best horns ever made. the 2b is good, but the bore is just too small to get a bigger sound out of it, that's why i like my 3b :D
uthspawn12 1 year ago
@uthspawn12 thats what she said
moviepalms2 1 year ago
@uthspawn12 thats what she said zing
moviepalms2 1 year ago
isnt this flutter tounging?
lickmyballs2113 1 year ago
Sometimes......
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
Ya ya ya...
Great representation of Tricky Sam Nanton.
boneofthewang 1 year ago
wtf is he trying to fukin do
adselrecom 1 year ago
Sounds like R2D2 after a bad LSD jazz trip.
rory09 1 year ago
I admire you're playing very much. I am a beginning trombonist, having been playing for about seven years now. I aspire to use the trombone as artistically beautiful as you do. Keep posting these improvisations I know I am not the only one who learns a great deal from them
tromboneandy 1 year ago
smoke and mirrors......
EdNeumeister 1 year ago
hahaha, dude how do you do that?!?
leopardlover666 1 year ago
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leopardlover666 1 year ago
man i might learn a bit of trombone just to learn to do this, Trombonists are so goofy ^.^ this is prolly the best sound effect i've ever heard.on the trumpet i get cows, horses, turkeys, and a motorcycle. but this takes the cake.
B0omtown 1 year ago
@B0omtown I'm sure its really hard to play though O_O I've never gotten a sound out of my trombone like this...
123476565656 1 year ago
BUENISIMO MUCHO ESTUDIO
triangulo2013 1 year ago
interesting but semi annoying
MrNickphilly 1 year ago 2
lol tpains autotune for brass
imdaking23 1 year ago 10
sounds like louis armstrong singing ayayaaayy:D
Monoprixchen 2 years ago 4
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahha
hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahaaahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
que es eso
es broma verdad
arquitectofiee2007 2 years ago
Love it!!!!
I am a new trombone player, any tips?
I am not a kid.
ttyoakum 2 years ago
that is pretty cool.
08bballwood 2 years ago
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this is wired, but its kool, its like didgeridoo, liek the other guy sed...its not music, its just someone muckin about with their trombone, voice and plunger
13joshpalmer 2 years ago
too bad it aint just muckin around
that shit is hard
bboymango 1 year ago
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omg. u call that music?
wobushitonshinlei 2 years ago
Sounds like a didgeridoo lol. Awesome.
Seibukan76 2 years ago
q merda eh essa???
sdcfcalvo 2 years ago
çà faisait longtemps que çà me démangé,cette fois je mis met
EXELLENT !!!!!
beberbatt 2 years ago
how unusual, very unique, its pretty kool
the sound makes me feel like cleaning my throat :]
dubbledubbleU 2 years ago
Wow. I really enjoyed this but I can see its not for everyone!
Swarflee 2 years ago 2
wth is this!
FunkiieeMunkiiee 2 years ago
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NateCan2 2 years ago
Unique and unusual, fine by me.
mdb205 2 years ago
awful. disharmonious.
RickRollLocked 2 years ago
This is one of the greatest trombonist alive. Great musician. check out his material. He has several recordings and instructional videos.
mejones67 2 years ago
i dont get it, is this warm up? watever dude...have fun.
ttukumoe 2 years ago 3
i didnt like any of that at all
Philbatrom 2 years ago 4
Is Chewbacca hiding somewhere?
radhazard888 2 years ago 28
Good call.
MrKJohnson22 2 years ago
@radhazard888 nice 1 man yeah chewbacca has to be hiding some where
zain142 1 year ago
@radhazard888 They trapped Chewie inside a tube, that's fucking cruel!
Bermo03 1 year ago
i think he's doin something called polyphonics or somethin. where he plays a note then sings like another or in this case sounds like he's saying a word ya. then he uses the mute to make the ya ya ya more dynamic.
romanian1991 2 years ago
multiphonics
challleeee 2 years ago
yea thats it. thanks
romanian1991 2 years ago
Kinda sounds like Louis Armstrong singing, doesn't it?
trombond13 2 years ago 2
talented. creepy.
javierenchina 2 years ago
Não da pra ouvir praticamente nada.
JulianaSMendonca 2 years ago
It sounds like the trombone is saying "yaah yaah yaah yaaa yaaaaaaaaaaahhh" Funny but interesting.
KitKatman2008 2 years ago
omigawd creepy....haha
summerlovinariel 2 years ago
omg this guy played at my school
he came from ecu (east carolina university)
i still cant figure out how he does the voice thing
wiiguru13 2 years ago
He is actually singing into the trombone while he plays the tones.
My 2 cents
salserogermano 2 years ago
yay?
madcbara 2 years ago
that is fuckin creepy as shit.
Kooovin 2 years ago 4
Agreed.
heartXshrds2 2 years ago
un mojon in spanish in english one mojon
jmholi 2 years ago
Is this a cup mute??
kanekokkosan24 2 years ago
no, its a plunger mute
khbgkh 2 years ago
oh!
thank you!
kanekokkosan24 2 years ago
It is a trumpet straight mute.
mejones67 2 years ago
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GalenSD 2 years ago
its called a plunger
Slushpuppy15 2 years ago
You have effectively creeped me out! I am now going to buy myself a plunger so I can creep my sister out while she's asleep!
I'm a mean little sister XD
xena91388 2 years ago 2
That's pretty sweet. I liked the effect you got when you hummed a major second above the not you were playing. had a neat natural beat pattern going.
SacredMusic4ever 2 years ago
sounds like the mating call of the great northern grizzled field ox. Other than that, it's cool as hell.
NoiseMostBeautiful 2 years ago
Sheesh!!! I need to learn how to do that!!!
kuhlieo 2 years ago
Wow!! That's some crazy skill you have going for you!
triggerhappy14 2 years ago
Hmmm... :/
RachHerexD 2 years ago
WTF????
are you calling the demon??
Bitenkmasters 3 years ago 4
lol thats funny
dirty654321 3 years ago 4
i'm trying to learn that too... built myself a didgeridoo, its easier to learn things with it, for example the voice or circular breathing, and its really difficult to do this with the trombone too, think hes a really very good player
samblackhole 3 years ago
i think you have to be able to do multiphonics in order to understand how hard whats hes doing really is
geekbeeterupper 3 years ago 2
thats multiphonics to a whole new level! i kinda liked this!
SBfluteman 3 years ago
this guy makes that trombone speak!
fcofelixx 3 years ago
yaiyaiyaiyaiya--
kanekokkosan24 3 years ago
i don´t know.... but i didn´t like it at all...
shitttt i lost my 6 minutes and 35 seconds too
gclplm 3 years ago
sounds like ARNOLD SWARCHENEGGER at 1:01 lmao ayya yya ayya gyygy gayg ygyg ggy
briEsp90 3 years ago 3
ill be honetst, he looks like a great player, but this just seriosly pissed me off.
ericlawhammer 3 years ago
This is great stuff! You've always been an inspiration to the rest of us for taking trombone outside of its documented limits. These are some really great tools to add to the toolbox...thanks for the tips!
nsktrombone84 3 years ago
this is so fun to do, but its easier on tuba. check out Fnugg Blue on youtube
nickmusiclover 3 years ago
yaaaaaaaiyaaaaiyaiyaiyaiyaaaaaaai
filipemtx 3 years ago
maby its just my style of musid but i dont like this and i would like to get my 6 minutes and 35 seconds back
Philbatrom 3 years ago
great sound! didn't know there is a physical way to sound like a wah pedal of guitar
btw i found u misspelled 'taoism' in your youtube profile lol
hermesw 3 years ago
Wow nice
CheezyItz 3 years ago
I've been playin trombone for seven years, I'm pretty good.
dolivermurphy 3 years ago
this relates to the video, how?
thel0ne0ne 3 years ago
Really...you don't have any videos of yourself so I guess we have to take you at your word. Personally, I have my doubts, dollarmurky.
cheesecakemousetrap 3 years ago
lol i've been playing 7 years too
bassbonemexie 3 years ago
i have been alive for at least twice that!
tromboneandy 3 years ago
trombone ROCKS. though, i suck at playing it. haha
DemonicDrummer666 3 years ago
Very nice. I'm going to have to practice this now!
SlideEssence 3 years ago 2
hi, im a trombone player, and i was wondering if that is just a normal sink plunger you are using, if so does it do the job well enough for big band stuff or do u recomend a proper one?
skunkfuncle 3 years ago
Yes, this is a normal plunger, although not really "normal" because this is the best plunger I have found. I bought it in a hardware store. I have a basket full of plungers from various hardware stores around the world. This is also the "proper" one. I have many plungers and the one I use is my favorite, of course.
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
Is this strictly a trombone and a plunger to make these sounds? (Along with human and voice?) It sounds like there is electronic altering, but hard to tell nad the video is blurry at times making me wonder if it was sped up/slowed down.
WindmillLiterature 3 years ago
yeah, it's not that hard, ive been playing for 5 years & i can do it, not nearly that well, but you can get chords and stuff
eskim02 3 years ago
okaaaaaaayyyyyy?............
junior801 3 years ago
lol it sounds like why why why why whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy whywhwywhwywhywhwywhwywhwy
jjhhll9 3 years ago 2
Y eso pa que sirve? ke polladon
AbeLiYoL 3 years ago
Sure, switch to trombone, why not? Many trombone players started on trumpet, including me.
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
hey great job i have placed tons of comments on youtube to help me figure out if i should switch to trombone and need as much help as possible i have been playing trumpet for three years and am going to a small highschool and they dont have alot of trombone players or euphoneum players and am kinda leaning toward trombone but i dont know please help and wright back thanks
sirkeegancs3 3 years ago
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i think u should its a great and boring insterment lol so go for it
Terrihottygurl05 3 years ago
you are a boring instrument, terrihottygurl05
notepadsucks 3 years ago 4
do you find it surprising you got 5 negatives posting comment like thay on something mostly trombone players are going to watch
eskim02 3 years ago
ur awesome 5 stars i play trumpet and i had a stroke at birthy and handicapped!
Citydogz45 3 years ago
Should have played with Duke Ellington and Tricky Sam Nanton, Maybe the Muppetshow.
valvetrom 3 years ago
I did play with the Duke Ellington Orch for 15 + years...... Ed
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
Im trying that tomoro
SlapstickProductions 3 years ago
WOW!!!thats scary!!!
3knurcbct 3 years ago
omg that fucking creeping right the hell out...
FullmetalGirl23 3 years ago 2
that shit sounds creepy..
roxas1098 3 years ago
Hi do you have written examples of this?
jacquesanderson 3 years ago
No, it's all improvised.
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
john cage meets peter frampton meets jazz
ottokat 3 years ago
I get a strange feeling i my throat like I need to clear it after listening to this.
SilveringsII 3 years ago
me 2
radioactiveshoes 3 years ago
haha!!
KaitlynWolff 3 years ago
one word: OMG
jumpinator10 3 years ago
Unbelievable
tromboneguy101 3 years ago
This is the scariest thing I've ever heard, and I love it. BONE POWER! =P
Magrakamajiora 3 years ago
This inspired me to try it. Really works, like a nasty dirty growl eh? Is this another way of flutter tonguing or a whole nother improv altogether?
jmctrombone 3 years ago
Yes... (-;
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
Try using Multiphonics. It sounds like a Wah-wah guitar.
MrJSays 3 years ago
that will produce that sound?
or you need the plunger also?
i can do multiphonics [not that well as he does] but isn't their something u must change in you ambechure as well?
staflo10 3 years ago
Well yeah. The plunger, like other mutes, gives the trombone the possibility of producing various timbres and colors. The "wah-wah" effect can be performed by simply creating a "shut-to-open" motion with the plunger whilst playing a note or playing a multiphonic.
Multiphonics, are complicated because they demand both vocal and instrumental performance. I recommend starting off with a low b-flat on the horn and singing an "F".
MrJSays 3 years ago
To produce it, it doesn't necessaringly require much changing of your embrechure, but your ability to produce a vocal sound(note of your choice) whilst vibrating your lips to maintain the note. After some practice, it becomes easier.
Just be sure to support yourself with enough air, maintain a good embrecure and vibration of the lip, and that your vocal note is well produced. You will eventually learn to not overshadow your trombones note.
MrJSays 3 years ago
i didn't really mean the multiphonics part so much as i think i'm asking about something like sam nanton used to do way back with ellington.
i'm sorry for not making that clear
but thank you for those explinations because i am trying to get better at that as well
staflo10 3 years ago
WOW that was cool. As for anyone who didn't like it, all i can say is try it yourself. I'm finally trying stuff like this, but MAN is it taking a while to get comfortable with. Never seen anything this good.
trombonaught 3 years ago
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not very good
paintballking406 3 years ago
sounds like one of those techno songs
danieljames1994 3 years ago
I like the plunger But i liek to simplify is there a mute for T-Bones I think the name is a herman muter with gives it the similar sound
DasCracker 3 years ago
so how exactly do you go about making this sound?
Zngmario 3 years ago
Practice - Explore - have fun!!
EdNeumeister 3 years ago
Why do you people with the tricks always say that?
MrJSays 3 years ago
What he's doing is using a mute, nothing wierd there for you i hope.
The other part is multiphonics, he plays a note while singing another, which gives it that chord sound.
Very cool stuff to play with.
mellotofer 3 years ago
el coño de tu madre!
CHACHECHICHO 3 years ago
Trombone didgeridoo
upkilt 3 years ago
Sounds like the teacher on the Peanuts cartoon! Ha!
dwightkschrute80 4 years ago 2
i used that exact same technique for the charlie brown musical teacher.
guitarrocker989 4 years ago
they used a different kind of mute though, I forget the name, but it wasn't a plunger mute
stubs13 3 years ago
well it was just for high school so no biggy.
guitarrocker989 3 years ago
sounds cool
orangejump11 4 years ago
iaee iaee iaee iaeaeai iaee......
rogerinbala 4 years ago
bueno ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
cachanillatole 4 years ago
multiphonics for the win, man.
DEATHbyRAZORBACK 4 years ago
man thats awsome. i love harmonics
gametym09 4 years ago
Why the angry face? Does it hurt to do... whatever it is you are doing...?
Clark98 4 years ago
It's not an angry face and it doesn't hurt. But, it does take a certain amount of concentration.
EdNeumeister 4 years ago
lool
stringtheories25 4 years ago
Oh, okay. I thought it might've been majorly srainful or something.
Clark98 4 years ago
I really don't know why, but that first note reminds me of louis armstrongs voice...
hahahaha
Sandman233266 4 years ago
Did Urbie do that just a tiny bit, on low Bb at the end of solos (in that key)?
I wonder about the physics nad the physiology that occur as the voice is added.
A great, old book, by the way, is "Experimental Music."
prariedogs 4 years ago
lol i never knew u could do that with a trombone :o
FooFighterTexT 4 years ago
hey ed i have a trumpet straight mute similar to tricky sam's nonpereil, this helps a lot when trying to produce the yah yah, but is there any secret to singing....i e like singing under or above the note, or singing with an aa instead of ee sound???? thanks anything would help.
jessea9737 4 years ago
No secret, sorry!! You can help by making the vowel sounds with the tongue etc,. The rest is exploration. Hope that helps....
EdNeumeister 4 years ago
IA IA IA IA IA IA....aye aye aye! Very impressive, but the repetetive vowels got to me XD
sonata1992 4 years ago