In my opinion, CORPORATISM has become so entangled with American government not because of any sort of inherent design, but simply because it's always been in the interest of powerful elitists to meld corporatism with statism in general.
quit trying to justify the state monopoly on violence based on the fact that it "would be worse" without the state. Not every anthorpologist agrees with that bullshit as you like to claim. David Graeber would like to have a word with you.
I know Graeber's work (shame on Yale), but that is besides the point i was making.
I'm not justifying anything, I'm just stating how it has been. I'd be the first to welcome change in this sorry state of affairs. When defending state monopoly on violence in other instances i do so on the strictly pragmatic grounds that SO FAR it has worked best in regulating violence.
Anyway I'm very open to being challenged to this and any other point.
Me personally, I think government is currently a necessary EVIL, because we're stuck in an old thought paradigm that makes us behave like darwinian animals. My idea is to incrementally and strategically develop a new paradigm that will eventually make government an UNNECESSARY evil.
Well a first step is to break through the propaganda and indoctrination. Imo a lot of people have already lost trust in the system.
But then you are exposed to a zillion conspiracy theories, Ron Paul and Ayn Rand-isms that can really shoot you way off track.
I'd say spread the ideas of Chomsky and other serious people who don't pull conspiracies and religious dogmas out of their asses but are actually citing solid and verifiable data and providing a deep analysis.
I agree with a mixture of certain things that Paul and Chomsky talk about and none of what Rand talks about. But between Paul and Chomsky, I probably lean just a bit more toward Chomsky objectively speaking.
I love all of this anarchism talk.
I'm too mugged to be anarchist. My politics are close Parenti's.
BTW, Buddhagem, this is former Westphalianprinz.
wvprogressive1933 2 years ago
Great preamble...looking forward to see the main event....:-)
josealonsoleon 2 years ago
This man is Great!
Cres45 2 years ago
In my opinion, CORPORATISM has become so entangled with American government not because of any sort of inherent design, but simply because it's always been in the interest of powerful elitists to meld corporatism with statism in general.
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago
Economic and political elite have "naturally" colluded for the entirety of human history.
The elite abuse luck, circumstances and personal strengths and convince the public to hand power over to them.
The public does so in order to limit violence, which naturally occurs when men freely interact among each other.
The threat of violence is, in turn, the only real measure of control that the public has ever held against the elite, and sadly it is a very poor one.
This is history.
DonVoghano 2 years ago
quit trying to justify the state monopoly on violence based on the fact that it "would be worse" without the state. Not every anthorpologist agrees with that bullshit as you like to claim. David Graeber would like to have a word with you.
Cefuroxx 2 years ago
Are you sure that's Don was saying?
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago
I know Graeber's work (shame on Yale), but that is besides the point i was making.
I'm not justifying anything, I'm just stating how it has been. I'd be the first to welcome change in this sorry state of affairs. When defending state monopoly on violence in other instances i do so on the strictly pragmatic grounds that SO FAR it has worked best in regulating violence.
Anyway I'm very open to being challenged to this and any other point.
DonVoghano 2 years ago
Me personally, I think government is currently a necessary EVIL, because we're stuck in an old thought paradigm that makes us behave like darwinian animals. My idea is to incrementally and strategically develop a new paradigm that will eventually make government an UNNECESSARY evil.
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago
it needs to be made to be unnecessary, smash the state
Cefuroxx 2 years ago
All in good time, cefuroxx.
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago
In lieu of cefuroxx's comment, I guess my reply is that everything you described is an accurate diagnosis of the problem, but it needs to be solved.
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago
Well a first step is to break through the propaganda and indoctrination. Imo a lot of people have already lost trust in the system.
But then you are exposed to a zillion conspiracy theories, Ron Paul and Ayn Rand-isms that can really shoot you way off track.
I'd say spread the ideas of Chomsky and other serious people who don't pull conspiracies and religious dogmas out of their asses but are actually citing solid and verifiable data and providing a deep analysis.
DonVoghano 2 years ago
I agree with a mixture of certain things that Paul and Chomsky talk about and none of what Rand talks about. But between Paul and Chomsky, I probably lean just a bit more toward Chomsky objectively speaking.
TheNeocatZone 2 years ago