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  • Every time I right click in the Phoneme Editor it crashes, I googled around, can't find a fix anywhere.. Help?

  • @Feenuxz Unfortunately it doesn't work for everyone. This tool made by Valve is quite unstable and the fix used to make it work on Windows 7 and Vista makes it even more unstable.

    You should try doing it a few times if you haven't already (like three to five times) to make sure it's not just a random crash.

  • @Silwerfish Yeah I sort of got to the point where I'd just spam right click, apparently if you have two monitors, it will work if you place the program on your secondary monitor (not the main one) - Don't ask why. Now I'm just stuck on a bunch of extraction errors, I'll try messing around with Audacity to get it working.

  • @Silwerfish Well, isn't it possible to do it plain text based, like coding it in Notepad? Or is that too counter-intuitive?

  • @MacJARedd You can edit in the phonemes manually but it's lots of work.

  • @Silwerfish Ok. Thanks. :)

  • well i only have a really small file , but after doing the vista and 7 tut stuff, do i need to download the file from XP?

  • @Dude5464673 Just do the parts that are relevant to your operating system, else things won't work. It could be that it can't quite interpret what's being said as well, even if the file is short.

  • how do I fix the problem with Phoneme Editor. I think after extraction, the whole red text thing and the phonemes are set up, it does not work for my channel. Do I need to fix this?

  • How come it says the extraction failed and stuff?

  • My scenes dont apaeer!

  • my hat(s) are off to you good sir silwerfish

  • I put it UK and even restarted but it still dosent work

  • @216TF Yeah for some people that just seems to be the case, I don't have much experience with this so I can't help with it I'm afraid, sorry!

  • @Silwerfish why wont mine show up like yours on1:26

  • @816nnm I have no idea.

  • really wanted barney to speak something he said in the game :(

  • it lip synic but i can exteacted but not fully :/

  • @BLiNdFIRrEd Then your problem might just be that the program can't properly understand what is said in the sound file.

  • @Silwerfish thx for responding btw it is now succesful and umm i have a problem on hammer i tried to do it but when i made a square shape i like the mouse cursor and it disappear :/

  • Hey hello i had a problem, i'm french so it only have "Microsoft Speech Recognizer 8.0 for Windows France"

    I can't put the english one please answer ;_;

  • @geek935 I don't think there's any solution to that, sorry!

  • @Silwerfish Whenever i click Re-extract and type in the sentence it says "An error occured during extraction" Any ideas how to fix this?

  • @Oxygen97 Is the text red or yellow? If it's red then something is not working at all, like maybe you have the wrong version of MSSAPI or the sound file you selected is broken. If it's yellow that means that it kinda works, but your sound file isn't clear enough so it can't tell what's being said in one or more place of the file.

  • Hello. I am using Windows 7. And I have done the speech recognition settings, but I cannot get the phoneme editor to extract, no matter how hard I try. I have set it to UK. Please help me out if you can!

  • @Metroidguy95 I don' t think I can help you I'm afraid. If you're certain you've done everything right and so the problem must be in Varsity's fix, then you should contact him and let him know it's not working for you. This tutorial is pretty old by now so I should probably test all this out myself to see if the fix still works. I will when I have time for it.

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  • @Silwerfish I am going to apologize for not paying attention to audacity. Thanks for your help!

  • @Metroidguy95 No problem! I'm glad you figured it out. What was the problem and how did you solve it? This would be really useful for me to know so I can help other people who might have the same issue.

  • @Silwerfish I had forgotten to change a setting in Audacity for the uncompressed audio. Thank you again!

  • the red error appears but everything still works so idk what error meens because the mouth moves and everything but it might meen something so plzzz help

  • @Dude5464673 Well what does the error messages say?

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  • i can't extract and i don't finde the start menu, the control panel or the "Speech Recognition" tab! where exactly are those things???

  • @mrnicosable The start menu is the button at the bottom left of your screen. In Windows Vista and 7 it's a round icon with a little four-colored flag on it. If you click that you get your start menu. From there you will hopefully be able to navigate to where you need to go.

  • Is there a way to make it so when you you spawn you get off the ground like you just WAKE.

  • @kljppppp I don't know actually as I haven't tried, sorry!

  • Were can I get it?

  • @SuperXpress2 Buy a Source engine game. Then in Steam, go to "Tools" in the dropdown menu in your "Library" tab and download Source SDK. When it's downloaded and started you have Face Poser right there.

  • Hammer? What program is that?

  • @SuperXpress2 It's the name of the map editor used to make levels for games using the Source engine (Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source etc.).

  • hey im trying to do a music video in gmod and i was wondering, if you have to do the same thing you did to ep2 to gmod? plz respond!

  • @GhillieCombine I think so. I'm not really familiar with how Gmod works.

  • Hey, i have a problem when i try to make logic_choreographed_scene in portal and take a screen, (some already are in portal) its just say missing file when i run map. please help

  • @mikejahn2791 Does it say the choreography file is missing? Or is the map missing? If the choreography file is missing, make sure that it actually can be found where it should be, and if not, place it there.

  • @Silwerfish its say

    No caption found for 'portal.ambient_loop'

    Scene 'scenes\Portal.GlaDOS' missing!

  • @mikejahn2791 You might be able to use GCFScape to pull the missing file from the Portal gcf file, but I don't know if that's possible (some gcf files seem to not have all the files in them). Never tried so I don't know, sorry!

  • @Silwerfish In GCFScape i can see all the scenes but not in source sdk. But anyway thanks for your help

  • How do you put it in Gmod or something?

  • @JonKiller98 You just make sure that all the files needed are available to gmod (not entirely sure if you need to put the choreography etc. in the gmod folder). Then play the map and it should work.

  • @Silwerfish Hey Silwerfish, you really have helped me...so far. I have a similar question to JonKiller and I saw your awnser but I am a noob so I dont know what your saying when all files needed are available to gmod. You see, I am making a machinima, and I really need Lip Syncing. But, I looked at one crappy video that made sense but didnt explain it properly, all he did was type a command (Somewhere) to the scene he just made. And it would play in gmod. (When typed in console in game.)

  • @GamerBoy470 I'm not sure how Gmod works with it's content, I know it's different from most Source games, or so I've been told, but I'm not sure how. I think it "mounts" the other games, so if you make a choreography for HL2 and you have that game mounted, I guess it should be available in gmod?

    I suggest you make a choreography, put it in a map, make sure it works in HL2. Then try starting it in Gmod, make sure HL2 is mounted and see if it works there as well.

  • @JonKiller98 I will tell you if you dont know how still. Save in Choreography (I same mine as Animation1) and so on, and then you go to Gmod and type "ent_setname *Actor's name*" and then type "ent_fire *Actors name* setexpressionoverride scenes/*Name of saved file in Choreography* but, add .vcd on the end, for example this is one of mine ent_setname Tesco *Separate* ent_fire Tesco setexpressionoverride scenes/animation1.vcd

  • Hammer Editor can go suck it

  • I  think i found out the answer to my question! But, after hours of gointhrough this with youturials... It DOSN'T work! Plz help and reeply! Is there anything you can do???

  • @TheBillybooboo What is it that doesn't work? Did you watch part 1 and 2 as well?

  • @Silwerfish Yes!

  • How do i find the path for sound at 4minutes 20 sec into the video?

  • There doesn't exist "logic_choreographed_scene" in TF2. What else can I used besides inputting tf_testvcd into console?

  • @GENIUSGT I don't know, never used Face Poser for TF2.

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  • i dont get it, after i make the new chorography and i make the actors name and stuff the play button and stuff you have at 3:08 at the bottom left doesnt show, all i have is three empty white boxes any ideas?

  • @mdarwin2 The graphics for the buttons are missing, there's a fix for it on the valve developer community wiki if you check out the face poser entries on there.

  • What can i do ? In my text-to-speech window i have only microsoft english recognizer v5.1. When i set it, the faceposer still showing me this extracting error =(

    I'm looking for any way to make faseposer normaly work on vista for 1 year already =( Are my searches failed again ?

  • @divedimon It just doesn't work on all systems unfortunately, you need to have the correct language for your system etc for it to work. I'm not sure exactly what makes it not work for some people. You could talk to Varsity AKA Theory - the creator of the dll file - to perhaps solve it with him.

  • @divedimon Oh wait, if it says you have 5.1 that means you installed MS SAPI 5.1 which messes it all up, you'll need to reinstall Windows to fix it.

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  • In faceposer it said it was was a success but when i hit play the model's mouth doesn't move?

  • @mtcoza Did you commit the extraction?

  • @Silwerfish Yes. Nothing more happens (btw I'm on Windows 7, and I have replaced the phonemeextractor.dll)

  • @mtcoza If you're certain you've done everything exactly like in the tutorial and it still doesn't work, then I don't know what might be going wrong. :/

  • It also creates another file identical to .wav except _work is added. Like if the file was fun.wav

    Another .wav file would appear called fun_work.wav

    and it doesn't dissapear... I don't know which one to use.

  • @Soulslayerzx Don't use the _work one, use your normal file.

  • @Silwerfish: I'm suspecting that something's wrong. Does it matter if we use / or \ for the directory files.  I followed everything, but after I type in the .wav file and hit the button to apply. I hear no sound when I play it. So then, I thought it was a glitch, I saved my vcd and imported into hammer. And you know the button where it says play for your vcd, when you need to browse for the vcd file. It plays for me, a small window pops up and plays the soundtrack. Though on run map, fails

  • @Soulslayerzx Are you sure the file format of your sound file is correct? Is it in the phoneme extractor or the timeline that you can't hear the sound play?

  • @Silwerfish: Ooops, I think I replied on my other one, but since I run my maps with my mod, the vcds weren't imported there at first, so it could find the vcds for the scenes. Lol. This tutorials rules!

  • @Soulslayerzx: Nvm, this all worked. The vcds just weren't in my mod folder, since I launch with my mod. Lol. So it couldn't find the directory of the scene.vcd.

  • @Soulslayerzx Ah, good thing you figured it out!

  • I hope I get it working soon, I got the whole video, but when I add the .wav file. I don't hear sound when it plays, I'm probably missing some content in face poser, since the play,stop, and pause button are all blanks and I know what to click after watching this video, play is 1st button and the others. Lol. yea..

  • Holy crap, first time I heard your voice. Previously my speakers were broken, so I only watched your annotations.

  • nvm i fixed it

  • Whenever I try to do phoeneme extraction, I get the error "Could not open phoeneme extraction file!" when I hit [Okay] (right where you said the English - UK error). I tried switching it to English - UK, but nothing happened. Any advice?

  • great vid dude thx

  • new generation of myspace-myscene

  • OK i tryd every thing you said to do because im on widows 7 i downloaded the files and put them in before i go to face poser but all my sentences get the yellow text not green and than when i do the whole thing the sentence gets moved to the end of the sound and the lips only move once

  • @drudigger What MS SAPI version does the extractor say you're using? After you have loaded a sound file it should say somewhere in the text area.

  • ummmmmmm when i am in the map my npc does not say nothin.

  • @mangoleeallan Bring up your console, set developer to 2 (you might need to have sv_cheats set to 1). Then run your map and check the console for any error that might occur when the NPC is supposed to be saying his line.

    Two possible causes: either you didn't type the right path to the choreography file in your logic_choreographed_scene, or you're triggering the choreography too early (before the NPC have had time to spawn properly).

    I hope you manage to fix it!

  • @Silwerfish yay i fixed it but how do i make it replay?

  • @mangoleeallan Great! If I remember correctly, there should be a property or flag in the logic_choreographed_scene that will enable the scene to be played more than once.

  • help mine is all scratchy when i put it into fp but its fine when i play it with media player. plz reply

  • @mangoleeallan The sound quality might be bad in FP, but it'll not be like that in game.

  • I have the voice recognition set to english - UK, but i still get an error trying to re-extract the sound.

    It sais in red text:

    "Last extraction result: an error occured during extraction."

    I am using windows vista 32bit, know if that might be a problem?

  • @MornedilReply Did you try several times? That sometimes happens randomly so if you only tried once or twice you might want to try a few more times just to make sure. If that doesn't work and you followed the two previous tutorials I'm not quite sure what the problem might be I'm afraid.

  • @Silwerfish Yes I did. The sound file is correct and everything. I will check once again on the Valve Developer Community, if there might be some bugs on operating systems.

    I have used face poser before... and i have uploaded a video on my regular account Mornedil with the result (Half-life 2 episode 3 preview) aka "gordon is gay" xD.. Check it :D

  • @Silverfish ....However that was made on another computer. so the operating system might be the thing..

  • @MornedilReply Hm, then I'm not sure what might be wrong. The custom dll file isn't perfect and there might be a few setups that it can't handle (specifically it probably has something to do with the language settings on the computer).

    It was made by one guy and I don't think he's working on it any longer. But if you can't solve it then I suggest sending him a message asking about it, he might be able to help or fix the bug. There's a link to his ModDB profile in the description of part 2.

  • @Silwerfish Well I always install my computer in english.. so.. I don't think that's it in my case xD. But thank you for the help ^^. I'll pm that guy and see if he replies ^^.

  • @MornedilReply I hope you guys figure it out!

  • I'm trying to make Kleiner say one of Glados's lines, but this error is said when I re-extract: "Last Extraction Result: an error occured during extraction"

    How do you fix this? :(

  • @tylergarynoahcox That probably means that it cannot understand what is said. Try tweaking around with how you spell the sentence to try "fooling" the program into understanding the sentence.

  • So i am fine up until i try to get the wav. into the channel it looks like it goes but then i dont have a play option or anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated

  • @IamBobbyHate So what part is it that is different for you compared to the tutorial? Doesn't it appear at all in your timeline when you add the sound?

  • @Silwerfish hmm after messing with it for a while i figured it out seems for some reason i just dont get the red buttons for play pause and record. they are just all white boxes, but they work as normal, thank you for this amazing tut btw.

  • @IamBobbyHate Ah I see, that sounds odd! Well good thing you figured it out! :)

    And thanks!

  • if u name the actor !Target1 in faceposer it uses whatever u selected as Target 1 in hammer as the actor. That might help :D its what valve did if u want to use their scenes.

  • is this for XP to?

  • @takatoekoe Yes.

  • if you do this the scenes.IMAGE will set it not to use ep2 scenes

    easy fix is do this for a mod not the Episode 2 game and to fix the scenes.IMAGE delete it or move it for where it is at same with the scenes

  • @K12T6 Ah yes, I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me, I'll add it to the annotations.

  • @Silwerfisk Nah, you instructions didn't work, but I can't even decide with language I want to take for teh Speech Recog. It just says german and thats it. =(

  • @JackFlash5500 That's too bad, if you have windows 7 Ultimate you should be able to download language packs for other languages using Windows update, that might work. Or maybe there's another way to add the required language to the list, I don't know, you could try googling around and see if you get lucky.

  • Useful tutorial! Great work.

  • Ty Silwer! Awesome tutoial! Worked perfectly!

  • I don't have...but I installed it and still not work.

  • @Diamond8687 You installed IVONA TTS? In my response I just wrote that installing that or other text-to-speech applications might cause your problem. In the forum thread I found the one who had this problem formatted his system drive and reinstalled Windows and then it worked for him.

    I'm pretty sure that would solve your problem as well, so if you ever format your system drive you can try it again and see if it works I guess. I'm not aware of any other solution though there probably is one.

  • @Diamond8687 By the way, I'm assuming you've followed the two previous tutorials in this series. You must follow them in order to get lip syncing to work.

  • When make "re-extract" I got "sil"? I have Windows XP.Please help.

  • @Diamond8687 I did a quick search and it looks like installing some text-to-speech software might cause this, in the case I found it was IVONA TTS. Do you have any text-to-speech software installed?

  • I'm sorry but it doesn't work for me, it says:" You must change your Speech Recognition language to English - UK to extract phonemes.Do this now? (Click the Speech Recognition tab)" And after that it "Last Extract Result : an error occured during extraction. Proably you can't help me as I'm german and not working with an UK version of Win7, but there may be a chance you know how to fix that

  • Thanks for letting me know! I have added a "Can't extract?" headline in the description, follow the instructions found there and let me know how it works.

  • Hey SF how did you manage to get this to work in the end, I noticed you're no longer using Windows 7. Any reason?

    As I'm having difficulties getting it to run on windows without error'in out.

  • @ScottRoseVideo I actually am running Windows 7, I've just changed the theme. I'm using Varsity's custom dll file to make it work as I show in part 2. So make sure that you use the custom dll and not the original one, and don't start Source SDK as that will overwrite the dll and instead use the custom launcher.

    To make sure you're using the right dll, look at the last row of text in the phoneme editor, it should say what version of SAPI you're using. It should say 5.4 (third party dll) in Win7.

  • Finally, a comprehensive way to use this tool. Source is at times very unintuitive and to have someone so well versed and able to work out each step is a real treat I must say. As always, thank you Silwerfish for this excellent tutorial.

  • Another amazing and informative tutorial. This really sounds like it should be a class and I should be taking notes.

    I can't wait to actually start making machinima with Hammer!

  • @corky064 Just hope I didn't make it sound too boring! ;)

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