Google "Rivonia unmasked" a book by Lauritz Strydom and read about Mandela and his co-conspirators' (mostly Jews) trial yourself.
The court case was open for the world to evaluate for themselves - Mandela's charge was reduced from treason (death sentence) to sabotage, an act of clemency. Chief prosecutor was also a Jew strangely enough.
Why kill the innocent ,easy they can t fight back, Nelson murder mandela How did you get the country ,easy by telling the blacks to have as many children as possible ,kill anyone in your way and always look innocent ,poor and as if you are a victim of some sort.By the way the poor part might be because most black people had an average of 12 children
@thebeverlyN OK here goes. Here's my say. Life expectancy is down by 11 years. That means that for every 1 year Nelly spent in Jail 20 million years of the current populations life is taken. Now I know this is hard to understand as maths also went the way of the white man when nelly took power, but basically it means he saved nothing. Forget the crumbling roads, the non-power grid etc..etc.. That terrorist did most definately NOT save the country!
fucking brilliant...i liked the way you started with the lovable nelson mandela ,,world hero and Mr noble peace prize winner.....that the media portray...
THEN the truth on what this fake ,with that arse kissing smile..in reality ,, just a murdering terrorist .. .thumbs up mate... great editing.
It is very simple, look at South Africa before Mandella's release, and look at South Africa 15 years later under ANC rule, there is your answer!, from a wealthy strong economic paradise to a sick corrupt dumpyard, same as Zimbabwe, and many of the other African states. By the way, I dont hear them Africans complaining when the White racist Europeans dig deep in their pockets give them billions to bale them out again!!
Nelson Mandela was not terrorist. He fought for his people to be free. Whites were terrorists there. They took South Africa from black people so what do you people expect. White people are cursed people, wherever they go they bring war, racism.... I am a Mediterranean and thanks god I am not fully white as West Europeans.
thank you for the upload he was on the american and international watch list due to his voilent past...... who else gets out of prison and becomes president???
@Vengrence, you say things have changed for the worse, for who? Things are not perfect but more people are better off than before. I cannot speak for other race groups but I believe things are better for the black man today than they were 20 years ago.
@Fhedzani keep telling yourself that and then wonder what went wrong later. It takes time for the breaking point to be reached, but its very close now
God bless Mandela for killing the enemies, you cannot make an omelette without breaking the eggs. If we do not kill the enemies, they will kill us. It is as simple as that.
@Salahuddin2009a Your "enemies" gave you everything from maize to an alphabet. You call those who brought you the closest ever to success, an enemy . Seek genocide for me and then ask me for help and...(crickets chirping in the background)..... 8(
There has never been a success in Africa, Not one! Fifty countries have had fifty years and the joke has already gone stale. Mandela sold you this deal, he must have a brilliant plan for you. Its too smart for me, ill give you the tip.
On your channel you say that you are from Australia, and we all know what the Europeans have done to the indigenous people of Australia and Africa and USA and Canada and other lands they entered into. Now is the time for paying back, no more slavery and abuse and murder by the whites.
I do not want the maize and the alphabet, I want the head of my enemy on the table.
@Salahuddin2009a I have nothing to do with anything the Europeans ever did to the indigenous people of Australia. I came to Australia a few years ago. Guess what, they get sit down money off my tax. In Africa my tax built black schools at a phenominal rate only for these to be burnt down. Slavery is not a whites only legacy believe it or not, and if you want to speak of murder, there is just no contest as to who did what in South Africa. Put a mirror on your table and you will see your enemy.
It is their land, they are the landlords and you must pay rents for living on their lands. You can leave if you do not like it!
RE: Slavery is not a whites only legacy believe it or not ...
I believe you; if you read the Torah or the Book of Numbers in old testament of the Bible you will see that Moses was actually the biggest slave driver and murderer and rapist of all times. So you win this round!
@Salahuddin2009a Yes well in Europe the whites pay the sit down money as landlords, In South Africa there is a tax on business to help small businesses to start - as a pilot project we were a small business trying to start by all definitions of the word but we were not black! And contrary to popular belief The white mans land in SA is 1 in the cape his because he got there first
2 in the free state his because he found only bones from the difeqane
@Salahuddin2009a How can the REAL GOD bless someone who murder others?He(God)said;the murderers,etc. will be thrown in a pool of fire(with Satan)..forever.Get a Bible and read the truth.
RE: How can the REAL GOD bless someone who murder others?
Read the Book of Numbers of the Bible, under the instruction of G-d, Moses killed all men and women and boys of six nations and took all the virgin girls as sex slave. It is all in the Bible, read the Bible it is online in 80 languages!
@Salahuddin2009a How can you compare the deaths of countless lives to making an omelette, you have a point of view, thats your god given right. Although i am sure that you would feel differently if those eggs happned to represent lives that were important to you.
RE: How can you compare the deaths of countless lives to making an omelette ...
I have lost lots of relatives and friends in war and that made me what I am today. Why should I be the victim? Why shouldn’t I kill the enemies and watch their relatives and friends and families suffer the same pain they imposed on me?
An eye for an eye is a fair law.
By the way, next time you fry an egg, remember that the egg was supposed to become a chicken not an egg on toast!
@Salahuddin2009a i dont eat eggs. and i am sorry that you have been a victim of war, but you should never wish pain and suffering on the innocent. i hope time can relieve you of your hatred and im glad that the past has only made you stronger.
@Gnubnub It's unfortunate that you seem unable to move passed your misunderstandings. I don't really understand your last rambling- punctuation and half sentences. Could you explain again? It does seem like you are making a few blanket statements. Do you not acknowledge that apartheid was a war, a war that we are still feeling the repercussions of now? I'd like you to research Mandela's doings after his release, before he was president... I'd like u to see him in his rightful, peace-making light
@JoeMayson008 1 OK ill try the language of bunny huggers instead.
Suppose for an instant your country was re-administered by friendy communists with a wonderful new outlook to share what is yours. They had retained that portion of land that they were historically on with the exception of lands granted for services rendered by your ancestors to them. Your people now lived on this granted land and lands that were bare because of the difaqane. Now thier land was on the highest rainfall... goto 2
@Gnubnub 2 areas generally speaking, (you can check this out by simply googling up any image of South africa's homelands and any image of South Africa's rainfall - its just a fact) but their land had little on it as they had not developed it much. Every attempt had been made to allow these people (who do not mix without warfare) to develop their own countries that were by neccessity small and seperate (as they tend to err.."reduce" each others numbers). Some examples of this are...3
@Gnubnub 3 the forced removal of whites by the white's government to create the homelands, funding of universities, full autonomy granted etc etc.. but still your area looked better so they tended to move in with you with a view of sharing what is yours. All of this was forseen and laws were put in place to prevent these people who were not so very long ago equal in number to your people from err "sharing" too much. Anyway to cut a long story short suppose the life expectancy was now ...4
10 years less - thats 10 years x 60 million people or more than half a billion man years. This reflects health wealth crime and many things. Do you think the man who worked his way to the top with a few limpet mines, songs of genocide, hand written documents on "how to be a good communist" ie the one that ruled you for a while should get the credit for a good portion of this result? If he gets just 0.001% credit then he caused 6000 years of life to be lost!
@flighty1996 You are so right.Now they call him a icon.They cannot run a nation,They will murder you and sit next next to their mutilated victims and eat the victims food. what a sorry race .
Its hard to find people that agree with me about the terrorist Mandela, im pleased i have found some people. if other terrorists started talking about anti-racism and peace, do they somehow become an icon for good? NO so why should Mandela.
Please, tell me who he killed? Are you referring to the St James Massacre? Cos that was by APLA - a rival faction to Mandela and the ANC... So that's definitely not true... I wonder what you would do if you and your people were oppressed, tortured, killed, beat down, just because you (as is so obvious) are white...? How would you act if your dreaded 'terrorists' took over your country and treated you like dogs... but only the white people and priveledged the black people... Wouldn't you fight?
@JoeMayson008 Hey I probabably would If I thought there was a hope of succeeding. Only thing is They got 50% of the usefull land available (remember to include botswana and exclude the desert) and they were 50% of the people in 1868. In fact the land that the whites got was earned in deeds requested and signed off fair and square so nobody took over their country at all! and if the Matebele were not chased away they would now be exterminated. and the land belongs to the san people so there!
@JoeMayson008 Get a copy of the "Long walk to freedom" written by none other than one Rolihlahla Dalibhunga Nelson Mandela and read on from “As a leading member of the ANC's executive committee, I had 'personally signed off' in ..."
He and his comrades were caught red handed with 210,000 hand grenades 48,000 anti-personnel mines 1,500 time devices 144 tons of ammonium nitrate
21,6 tons of aluminium powder 1 ton of black powder and he (1st person) Quote: "personaly signed off" .
@Gnubnub WTF! Do you understand what soft targets are? Did you actually read the book or not? During Mandela's time as leader of Umkhonto weSizwe, the only focus was soft target e.g. power lines, train tracks, oil refineries etc. Special care was taken NOT to kill or harm any civilians. They meant to disrupt and irritate the racist, oppressive state. Where are you from anyways?
Hard targets: 77 year old mrs Rys and 3 year old kornelia Koekemoer from the train station bomb. my mom was at the station. Do you know exactly when the church street bomb was set off? 4:30 PM RUSH HOUR Not in the building IN THE STREET. What was that great speech from Mandela's wife... oh yes "with our boxes of matches and our NECKLACES..." Perhaps you don't have family who were actually there! I heard Magoos bar explode, at that time the President was?...Why didn't he renounce violence then?
OK so Nelson was not president, but Botha had come and gone, Mandelas freedom (and probably presidency) all on the table if he would just renounce violence in Botha's time. Do you know what happened just after those offers were made? The violence went up dramatically. Some people just don't understand peace!
its not how u start but how u finish! racist bastards like yourself sewed the seeds of violence by taking away human rights and oppressing people, without this he may not have had to do the necessary to free this country. dont be so annoyed that mr mandela never turned out to be the savage u labeled him, and angry that the country has done so well since 1994, so in the words of the great man himself go jump in a pool, better yet piss off back to wherever u came from!!
Mandela has never killed a white or black or coloured man. South Africa was in a state of turmoil after 1990 with many rival factions squabbling over the ensuing power. It took spirit-like leadership from Madiba to guide South Africa into a successful democracy. Please do not disrespect his achievements. South Africa is a changed, beautiful country and mauch of it is thanks to Madiba. I am a white South African and it pains me that so many people think that apartheid was purely black vs white.
@JoeMayson008 Correction, Mandela PROBABLY, never DIRECTLY killed a white or black or coloured man. He himself admits that he signed off the church street bombing AND PEOPLE DIED.
Some of these posts are sickening. Mandela's ethos is one of equality, compassion and unity. This video is unfortunately very damaging as it posts too much of a negative picture of Madiba. I recommend watching some interviews of him, taken during apartheid as well as when he was president. He is a man who fought for his beliefs. If you are from America is not democracy a fundamental value in your society? Don't you think that Mandela is righteousfor standing up 2 a terrorist minority government
@CentralScrutinizerxx What the hell, such a shit idnt heart,since hitler says,the jewish people are mostly bad,white nation are peaceful? who came to the the continet which laters calld america(north/south) an killed 100000`s auf peoples which live the,peaceful,before the white man came and begin to kill an destroy from the inca till the indians(indiander) the white man came,from spain first,the vikings came in the first millenium(400-800/900)but the dont killed other peoples,like the follower
He's a hateful nigger and a terrorist. He should be cremated in prsion instead of feeding this creep for 27 yrs. Hell, if i am a prisonguard there - this bozo is dead long time ago...
@tiborvivi, are you serious? i mean, its almost like you think his violence was non-retaliative? you sound like your beyond ignorant and far from intellectual so maybe you should catch at least up on some english lessons to enable you to intellectualize your thoughts, so you can move away from relying on your limited red-neck vocabulary and then maybe you could contribute to a discussion on a civil rights movement
@CentralScrutinizerxx Seriously, is that you trying your hardest? When blacks arrive??? Hahahahahaha. Did blacks go to America on their own? No, because they were kidnapped and brought there and given the slave mentality. You failed to name "one nation" where whites have made peace and harmony. Please, for the good of yourself get rid of that sub conscious defence in your mind that stops you from hearing the truth.
@CentralScrutinizerxx Hahahaha, please elaborate on your point and also please tell me one place in the world where the white man has gone and made peace and harmony.
All I see if you types is hypocrisy, but I digress I don't hate whites for their wrongs or blacks for theirs because the bottom line is there is good and bad in all races.
Wow, the more you find out some things from the past, the more confusing this whole thing gets. Maybe one should just refrain from politics and focus on building a future for oneself. But one thing I know is that there are very caring whites to africans and africans to whites, true story. This whole hating game is just sickening because there is just a lot of things we are not honestly told, this whole apartheid and democracy situation has a lot attached to it.
Sure there are innocent White Afrikaners, just like there are/were innocent Germans, when Hitler EXTERMINATED 6 Million Jews, when England exterminated millions of Irish, Scots & Wales.
Sadly,,, it's always the good INNOCENT people who take the rap for all the crimes committed in their name.
Actually, the famous "6 million" was invented during WW1, along with other anti-German propaganda, but the Zionists didn't have enough media control to make the accusation stick. Then, in WW2, the genocidal Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenberg resurrected the myth. Surprisingly, he did this well before Soviets even occupied Polish or German territory.
For more info, you might look on the Web for: "Were the Germans so Stupid"
Imagine, GOVERNMENTS knocking down doors all over Europe, taking UNARMED CIVILIANS hostage to simply EXTERMINATE a race?
While you may have GOOD POINT, who ever controls the media get's to manipulate information, actually it's NOT the NUMBER-FIGURE that's hard to believe.
What makes the CRIMES so hard to fathom is,
1. the SELECTION OF VICTIMS, race & religion.
2. the gruesome nature of the crime.
3. the size (whole families) & Ages of the victims.
If u did not know, Mandela's dream was 1 where he cherished an ideal 4 a free non racial society in which all persons live in peace and harmony. That was an ideal which he had hoped to live for and achieve, but if needs be it was an ideal for which he was prepared to die. For his ideal he was sentenced to life imprisonment, 4 in the eyes of racist SA, living in harmony was terrorism n high treason. While Mandela was cut out of society, millions other Mandelas picked up the sword n soldiered on
@darrouken Like I said , the KneeGrow race ruins/destroys everything. Every country inhabited by large numbers of KneeGrows is a fucking garbage dump. LOL
There was no such thing as innocent white South Africans. South Africa under Apartheid was an evil, racist and corrupt nation run by evil, racist and corrupt people.
Mandela and ANC are only terrorists in the minds of evil, racist and corrupt people. Their opinions mean nothing.
@andylumeh Sorry black supremecist retard, but Jesus Christ himself was not black, hahahaha. To bad loser. I would say Jesus Christ was a fair skinned man with dark hair and eyes or a tan skinned man with those features or arab looking. All the people I just listed are much more related to Caucasions then blacks. Sorry bitch.
mandela was betrayed by a whiteman traitor. the white traitor was giving mandela a lift in his car when he drove straight to the white aphertied police station where the aperthied white police slime balls were waiting. may all their souls rot in hell for turturing good mandela and the others for 27 years on robin island. one day after mandela is gone south africans will revenge on the whites on a mass scale.
And the American Revolution wasn't successful because Jefferson staged a successful sit-in protesting against George III. Washington and Jefferson were undoubtedly terrorists to the British throne. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. In reality the words are synonymous and their usage only differs with the point of view of the user. I prefer the side of oppressed blacks under apartheid. Apparently, you prefer the "saintly" acts of the S.A. National Party. Your choice.
to the idiot bantu.......I am a boer and have spent my life employing bantus !so that they can eat, we have every right to South Africa. The country was built by Whites who came fought and conquered. A country only becomes a country when it has infrostructure which was non existant when my forefathers arrived here to set up a trade route to the East. Yes! your type are very stupid and we all know it!
Obviously to explore to find the new world as it were! they never asked for it but sre do use it !!!! and if you asked them now they would say they are happy with it!! Africa could live with out infrastructure of course but when offered something new and better why waste it! well the "anti Communists" as you call me did make SA better cant you see that! 25yrs in prison not for trying to make it better but for HIGH TREASON!! fighting the people trying to make life better for them!! and it was!!!!
In the name of "RACE, RELIGION or CLASS", YES, Human history has ALWAYS been a clash of interests, proving your point, "there will always be some who wish to keep their race seperate".
Take UK for example, the 700yrs conflict in the name of RACE or RELIGION, among the Englsh, Irish, Scots & Wales, is another good example to prove your point.
Your VALID point can NOT DISPROVE, human beings criss-crossed oceans & overcame obstacles to make this world a bettter place to live, for all human race.
Do you mean STARVING ETHIOPIA, showing off MILLIONS of dead skeletons for the whole world TELEVISIONS to see & begging for "FAMINE AID", while waging ENDLESS internal ethnic & border wars all over the Horn of Africa is much better of than any nation on earth? HELL NO!!!
ENDLESS Ethiopian famines, Ethiopian ethnic & border wars has ONLY made Ethiopia the shame of Africa.
Shamefully, you are bragging about your own misery!
Too bad, you ain't fooling mankind, besides yourself.
@BahreNeGash On average, once every ten years, Eritrea is threatened with famine. Annual crop production depends on rainfall that is variable and unevenly distributed from year to year. Eritrea has so far not managed to raise crop production to a level that can support the entire population, and is forced to cover nearly 50 percent of its annual cereal requirements through imports-commercial and food assistance.
In normal years the country produces about 60% of domestic requirements while in poor years, it produces no more than 25 percent. Last year crop estimates puts this figure at about 400 000 Mt of cereals out of a domestic requirement of 659 000MT for a population of about 3.66 million.
Eritrea remains a food insecure nation.
Hamaseans making fun of Ethiopian "famine" is typical of the pot calling the kettle black!
The ONLY way you justify, rationalize & cover up your wicked mindset & ETHIOPIAN FAMINE is by simply putting everyone in the same basket case as Ethiopia. Too bad you ain't fooling anyone.
Agame,
The whole world knows,,, Africans are NOT in the same bascket case as HUMILATING Ethiopia.
If you have any doubts,,, Google "Ehiopian Famine" & tell me who you see on the videos?
Then again,,,beggars of your kind know NO SHAME!!!
@BahreNeGash The Human Rights Watch 2010 World Report, covering events in 2009, summarised the human rights situation in Eritrea:
“Eritrea remains a country in shackles. Arbitrary arrests and detention, torture, extrajudicial killings, severe restrictions on freedom of expression and worship, and forced labor are routine...thousands of people fled the country in 2009 due to Eritrea’s serious human rights violations and indefinite military conscription.
“Deaths in custody are common as a result of ill-treatment, torture, starvation, and denial of medical care. Many other detainees have ‘disappeared,’ their whereabouts unknown. In 2009 a reliable website reported the deaths of four prisoners held because of their religious beliefs; three died after torture, the fourth after denial of treatment for malaria.
“The Eritrean government is also responsible for extrajudicial killings. Some deliberate killings occurred during detention, others when prisoners attempted to escape confinement or flee the country. The government maintains a ‘shoot-to-kill’ policy for anyone caught trying to cross the country’s borders.” [29d] (p2)
Protests of the "election" results began on November 1, 2005, and have prompted more than 60,000 arrests. Live gunfire from government forces has been directed at protesters and bystanders. All the top opposition leaders were arrested, as was the mayor-elect of Addis Ababa.
The Ethiopian police massacre refers to the killing of innocent people by government forces during June and November 2005 which led to the deaths of 193 protesters and injury of 763 others.
More than 30,000 people were detained by security forces following the FAKE election.
especially through absence of toilet facilities and the prevalence of diarrhoea among prisoners forced to use a bucket inside the container for a toilet. One former prisoner told of detainees being forced to lie in diarrhoea as a punishment.
Medical treatment for torture injuries or illnesses caused or exacerbated by prison conditions is not provided in any of these places of detention beyond the most minimal medication dispensed by medical assistants.
Prisoners held in shipping containers are locked up for almost 24 hours a day. Children are held with adults. Containers, which contain no cell furniture, are overcrowded and become extremely hot and suffocating during the day and very cold at night, with little room to sleep or move. The conditions are unhygienic and infectious diseases spread rapidly.
Torture is systematically practiced within the army for interrogation and punishment, particularly of conscription evaders, deserters and soldiers accused of military offences, as well as members of minority churches. The secrecy in which political prisoners are detained, to the extent that virtually all are detained incommunicado and have effectively been "disappeared", makes them particularly vulnerable to torture and ill-treatment.
National service, comprising military service and development service such as road-building and construction work, remains compulsory and extended indefinitely for all men aged between 18 and 40, although women are reportedly allowed to leave at the age of 27. The internationally recognized right of conscientious objection is denied. This applies particularly to Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse military service (though not development service) on faith grounds.
In September 2001, the government arrested 11 former government ministers and EPLF leaders (members of the dissident Group of 15, "G15"). They were members of the National Assembly and long-time colleagues of President Issayas Afewerki. The President also accused ten journalists detained a few days after the G15 arrests in September 2001 of being "spies and mercenaries" who had supposedly clandestinely supported the G15 "traitors" on behalf of Ethiopia.
Just like South African Whites settling in South Africa more than 300yrs ago, Europeans settling in Australia, North & South America,,,etc, have been through TRUBULANT ADJUSMENT, before coming togather to build a commmon destiny.
SADLY, most of these "IMMMIGRANTS, SETTLERS & NATIVES" waged civil wars to settle their differences. In the end, they ALL managed to BUILD a nation, with common destiny to accomadate each other.
@BahreNeGash The notion of a common destiny is one of a single race. Examples are like hens teeth where two races get along in the same territory. Perhaps miscegenation is for the better, but there will always be some who wish to keep their race seperate. The discontent will flare up again of this you can be certain. For history does not seem to show a happy non-homogenious population as the norm. I see a whole continent were they did not manage to BUILD ANYTHING once the domination stopped.
Now that Aparthide is over and south africa has black rule, I heard it is an oasis of peace, prosperity and love. thank God those wonderful citizens got those wihtes to shove off.
@punchpringle1 you dumb arse!!! i live here and it's F@#$%^ hell here! highest violent crime in the world. highest aids and rape rates... this country is nothing of what it was before.
Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words or actions.
@punchpringle1 you are a dead set Idiot!! you obviously have some sort of comprehension problem!! if you recon South africa has peace and prosperity now without the whites,then you have major problems man good luck in life!!!!.IF you are even apart of it!!!
@d0nc42 You must suck cocks in an insane asylum if you believe that! This country has flame throwers on the sides of their cars to keep carjackers away. You're just one dumb uneducated fuck. Quit wasting my time you homes bag of shit/. A survey for the period 1998–2010 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.
YES,a terrorist in the past.he changed.it is so possible.people [mostly Americans] im British btw if think i would do this after being in jail.he knows what he did.and wanted to earn a new name not 'the terrorist' now 'the hero'
@BahreNeGash The word terrorist needs to be defined first, but I think singing songs of genocide would take the credibility of of the word hero, just a little bit.
It would be a little tricky too, to justify signing off on the church street bombing when there were government and strategic targets available.
Anyway now that Homo Praedicativus been educated on the slogan "liberation before education" and them muscled into leadership role we can wait in anticipation for err.... change.
If George Washington fought the English colonialists to liberate America & deserved to earn free homeland, with out being condemned to be a "terrorist", what makes Nelson Mandela any different than "George Washington"?
There's nothing "terrorist" about people refusing to succumb to colonial masters.
At the end of the day, those who have hard time recognizing the FREEDOM OF A NATION has to be forced to the will of the people.
@BahreNeGash There are few places on earth where the locals did not have to fight for what they had.
While I don't agree that anyone is better off for what Mandela did, warfare was probably all that was left to achieve his aims. So the fact that he committed acts of treason or war could be excused. HOWEVER, among Mandela's hand written notes were notes on Chinese Guerrilla warfare (SURELY THAT IS TERRORISM) and how South Africa under communism would be a land of milk and honey.
Here's a quote "The Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be completely crushed and wiped from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realised.”
The notes presented at the Rivonia trial titled "how to be a good communist" was hand written by one Rolihlahla Dalibungu Mandela. Go ask him to deny it.
Am I free to live in my own community led by my own people?
When I pay taxes, where does the money go- my own people perhaps?
Who decides where the money goes - my own people perhaps?
Can I get a job with my own people?
Can I even keep a job even though it is my own family business?
Can I build something for myself?
These were all rights that Verwoed Recognised for the blacks, but there is no reciprocal recognition when those who outbred us decide to take OUR country.
Just like George Washington & the American People rose up against the English colonial system, demanding "GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH", a nation is liberated & built by people who believe in FREEDOM.
If you have any other practical legal questions, read your Constitution & ask your political representataives. from local to national level.
@BahreNeGash Yes well, I have no doubt the law says very encouraging things.
Now getting back to reality.
We have had The bomber of Magoos bar put in charge of policing us, The infamous Dr beetroot who drank her own liver transplant into oblivion ran our health care for some years. A president who never made it through primary school to lead us. Would it not be reasonable to allow us a state which we may govern just ourselves. We were quite willing to take the dessert for crying out loud
Hey,,, No ONE is forcing you to live under the very circumstances you are complaining about. As for those who refuse to succumb to "Aparthied", they are entitled to fight for "LIBERTY", just like you are entitled to fight against Mandela. If you have what it takes to lead a nation, go for it. GOOD LUCK on your new political proffession!!!
@BahreNeGash The CPJ research showed that secret detention centres in the reclusive Red Sea nation held the most journalists in Africa, an unbroken record for Eritrea since 2001 following the government’s brutal shutdown of the private press and the arrests of 10 editors.
If following me ALL over youtube "componsenates your own inferiority complex", KEEP IT COMING,,,,
Too bad, this video has nothing to do with your own inferiority complex or your target, "Eritrea".
FYI: This video is about Nelson Mandela, a man who fought for the liberty of his own people & achieved Liberty & Nobel Prize for his struggles & achievments.
@BahreNeGash Prior to January 20 every bad thing in Eritrea was touted as proof of an American-led conspiracy against Eritrea. Daily anti-American diatribes peppered the regime-controlled airwaves and print media. The regime attempted to deflect all complaints by claiming America and its puppet, Ethiopia, were an immediate threat to Eritrea’s sovereignty and/or territorial integrity. Criticism of the regime was thus tantamount not only to sedition, but also to treason.
What so "we can simply leave" as Charles Nqakula says. Never ever did we force them out of any territory they had. Out of what was within the South African Boundaries we Recognized Botswana as theirs, Swaziland as theirs, Lesotho as theirs, all the homelands. we WANTED them to govern themselves We were forcibly removed by our own white government to make it possible with 1/2 the people they got 1/2 the land, but they want what is our bit too!!!??!
What you are missing or denying is that THREE HUNDRED YEARS OF INJUSTICE, may have created a lot of hatred & conflict of interest, among ALL South Africans.
After 300yrs in Africa, the Afrikaners are entitled to be treated just as NATIVE-SOUTH AFRICANS as the rest of Africans.
But "HOW DOES ONE RESOLVE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST & CENTURIES OF INJUSTICES is very important to all envolved.
@BahreNeGash It was not about injustice to the black man, It was about protecting ourselves. Yes we got nasty and they got trodden on, but they kept flocking to us despite this, while we just wanted to be separate.
The problem is that now they want our stuff as they made nothing on their land, and we are leaving.
As nobody wants to pay for our fixed possessions we leave with very little, and as we get a raw deal why should we care when it all goes south!
@BahreNeBANDA! No wounder you're so mad, even with Egyptian and British mediation The TIGRAYAN/AGAME WARRIORS YOHANNES and RAS ALULA sent your hamasean banda "ras" welde-micheal to starve to death in a prison on a mountain in Eritrea. the banda of bogos! Even his hamasean son Mitson was sent to the mountain with him!
hahaha looks like Isaias Afewerki is next! Ras Meles gonna send him to nakfa to die!
"These all happened with each Eritrean fighter fighting 20 Ethiopian soldiers while eating, drinking, and wearing virtually nothing, sleeping on rocks and thorns in colossally cold and dry places. When the story of the Eritrean fighters is raised, words start to run short; it is best to end the story by saying "Untellable".
"By 24 May 1991, inside Eritrea, close to 1 million highly trained & armed-to-the-neck Ethiopian soldiers had been killed, thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of armoured vehicles and military tracks had been sublimated, a couple hundred fighter jets and helicopters had been smashed into pieces, infinity number of heavy and light weaponry and ammunition had been destroyed or captured".
State Repression and Indefinite Conscription in Eritrea
April 16, 2009
This 95-page report documents serious human rights violations by the Eritrean government, including arbitrary arrest, torture, appalling detention conditions, forced labor, and severe restrictions on freedom of movement, expression, and worship. It also analyzes the difficult situation faced by Eritreans who succeed in escaping to other countries such as Libya, Sudan, Egypt, and Italy.
Your Question - "if separation was INTENDED to provide protection,,, why "MIGRATE" to Africa?"
Only SA Relates to me not Africa in general.
Starting with "why go" (in 1652) - to set up trade with India. No Bantu were met with at this time, only San and KhoiKhoi. These are extremely peacefull people.
Then we have Bantu -the race we term black -meeting us 100 years later at Port Elisabeth
- we needed seperation after that! The Xhosa Stole Cattle and murdered people.
After 300yrs living in the same "ENVIROMENT" (nation), I wish ALL South Africans were able to resolve their diffference in civilized fasion & manage to build a common destiny, just like all other Europeans who settled out of Europe.
@BahreNeGash when is this Mandela going to peg!! Hell he is one of the biggest clowns to walk this earth what a dick head!! who wears shirts like that!!!! its funny all you mandela lovers recon he is loved by majority of the world!! youd be so mistaken its the media that portrays what they want you to see!! have a chat to people other that the floppys in South africa!! you make me laugh at how nieve you are!!!! keep South Africa well wait at the phone when you cry out for ASSISTANCE!!!!!!
@BahreNeGash Look and listen carefully if thats possible!! if it wasnt for the European settlers there wouldnt be the infrastructure you can afford and us daily! you would be a fool to think that people dont recognise the communist regime the ANC is and was!!! there was never a case of conning a African they cant be taught anyway EG look at AFRICA and look at Europe big difference!!! Africa civil war And disease and corruption due to NO IDEA and Europe need i say more!!! keep africa its stuffed!
If Europe had more to offer than Africa, why did your ancestors migrated to Africa?
So you migrated to Africa, out of your good heart to build "infrastructure", the Africans NEVER asked for?
And Africans could NEVER lived with out you & your "infrastructure"?
And "ANTI-COMMUNISTS" of your kind would have a better heart & mind to make South Africa better, than those who paid 25 years of their lives, in the dungeons of your wicked-empire?
NOT TO WORRY ABOUT AFRICA, WHEN YOU CAN STAY IN EUROPE.
@BahreNeGash hey man watch the Vid again he was in "dungeons" cause of terrorist acts and treason and if you think ANC isnt a communist party what is he doing with commie ties in the vid?? and asked bout fidel castro his answer was go jump in a pool!! Great leader !!MY ASS were you from anyway man? are you african or what? you talking and sound like some Hippie! whats your background? just interested to know.
Oh Yeah,,, One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, just like the Boers who fought the English occupation.
BTW: Refusing to succumb to 300yrs of Dutch farmers club (Apartheid), ain't treason.
After all, "COMMUNISM" was NOT around when Dutch immigrants occupied & looted South Africa.
NOT TO WORRY about Africans. Keep your ass & your infrastructure out of Africa, for they lived with OUT you & your "infrastructure" BUILDING PYRAMIDS TO REACH THE STARS, for thousands years.
@BahreNeGash Not your commie friends they have no pyramids but mud huts and grass way to go sucked in to you man you and your commie bastards got the raw end ye us Euros love it with out you monkeys!! dont have to worry bout anything just wich clean beach to go to!!! you will never know how good we have it keep your poor black self empowerment Vids and hope for some love! at the end of the Day your still Africa! dark ages. Mandela is just a puppet and you clowns make him move by your stupidity
@BahreNeGash Internet was invented by the Europeans so i use it to inform clowns like you!!reality you preach to me bout reality?? the reality is that you are still a Commie lover and will always be backward i said all i have to say good luck to you!! may you realise one day that africa had it good and they all threw it away!!! you and the commies will be saying if only!!! how sad!! you may out live us but we will always live Great!! we migrated to africa to help you idiots but shame you lost
@BahreNeGash Who care who invented the internet? said like a true Idiot!! well it wasnt a African now was it!!! look at Africa and look at Europe such a difference!!! Its funny you like to say to me and others get out of africa but its you idiots and the Africans that always call on the Europeans or the West for help when inevetibly you have gone to shit!! AGAIN!!! please help us donate money to the starving cure HIV help us with the violence!!! does this sound familier?? it should its Africa!!!
@BahreNeGash Just a little info, Australians dont chase kangaroos, we're not as primal as american tv makes us seem. I think what yas need to realise is that every country and every person, has different beliefs.. Im not gonna place an opinion on what i think about nelson mandela because i was never their to witness the affects of his actions before or after prison, who would know better than those who were there? It comes down to individual beliefs. Do rights make up for wrongs?
Sure, in the EYES of American "free press", prestige, glory & profit is earned by brain-washing the gullible.
In the Americam media's QUEST for "great empire", every human creed is expendable in the name of "FREE PRESS". Therefore, I agree with you "Australians dont chase kangaroos".
Your LOGICAL reasoning & common sense is IMPRESSIVE.
Sure, "every country and every person, has different beliefs".
Three centuries of seeking justice & "democracy" does NOT make one "terrorist".
Google "Rivonia unmasked" a book by Lauritz Strydom and read about Mandela and his co-conspirators' (mostly Jews) trial yourself.
The court case was open for the world to evaluate for themselves - Mandela's charge was reduced from treason (death sentence) to sabotage, an act of clemency. Chief prosecutor was also a Jew strangely enough.
100fuldman 1 day ago
Why kill the innocent ,easy they can t fight back, Nelson murder mandela How did you get the country ,easy by telling the blacks to have as many children as possible ,kill anyone in your way and always look innocent ,poor and as if you are a victim of some sort.By the way the poor part might be because most black people had an average of 12 children
baasfaan1 2 days ago
@thebeverlyN OK here goes. Here's my say. Life expectancy is down by 11 years. That means that for every 1 year Nelly spent in Jail 20 million years of the current populations life is taken. Now I know this is hard to understand as maths also went the way of the white man when nelly took power, but basically it means he saved nothing. Forget the crumbling roads, the non-power grid etc..etc.. That terrorist did most definately NOT save the country!
Gnubnub 1 week ago
you say what you what..you racist rubbish..nelson mandela literally saved this country!!!!
TheBeverleyN 1 week ago
fucking brilliant...i liked the way you started with the lovable nelson mandela ,,world hero and Mr noble peace prize winner.....that the media portray...
THEN the truth on what this fake ,with that arse kissing smile..in reality ,, just a murdering terrorist .. .thumbs up mate... great editing.
sudaneseareshit 2 weeks ago
Apartheid "NOT MANDELA" was terrorist.Mandela is a world hero whether you like it or not.
katimamolelo 2 weeks ago
thats an easy one...terrorist
JoshSA123 1 month ago
@jdmderick. Dubya did!
mgnyg46 1 month ago
It is very simple, look at South Africa before Mandella's release, and look at South Africa 15 years later under ANC rule, there is your answer!, from a wealthy strong economic paradise to a sick corrupt dumpyard, same as Zimbabwe, and many of the other African states. By the way, I dont hear them Africans complaining when the White racist Europeans dig deep in their pockets give them billions to bale them out again!!
holland516 1 month ago
Nelson Mandela was not terrorist. He fought for his people to be free. Whites were terrorists there. They took South Africa from black people so what do you people expect. White people are cursed people, wherever they go they bring war, racism.... I am a Mediterranean and thanks god I am not fully white as West Europeans.
Power to the people!!
dachkoks 1 month ago
@dachkoks your name suits you ...you really are a cock-head....& you keep believing what you want to .. nig nog.
sudaneseareshit 2 weeks ago
Excellent vid showing the truth about the ANC and indeed it's leader!
Ripper36068 1 month ago
he aint a terrorist ..the guy z a fredom fighter lets jus accept and appreciate the fact he went in jail for god knoes hw mny years ..pliz
00tg07 2 months ago
thank you for the upload he was on the american and international watch list due to his voilent past...... who else gets out of prison and becomes president???
jdmderick 2 months ago 7
they should've assassinated his black ass as he got off the island.
jdmderick 2 months ago 3
The answer is simple Mandela liberated the South African people from anti democratic apartheid.
BunnySpangle1 2 months ago
TERRORIST? The devil hiding between two number 4's!!!!
BBBEESUFFERING 2 months ago 3
VILE WHITE-HATING TERRORIST TYPICAL AFRICAN SCUM
ShaytanBozorg 3 months ago 8
hehehe very true, let them self destruct, arrogant bastards.....glad I'm out of that mess
Simba5124 3 months ago 3
FUCK ANC .
Africa aids infested cannibals infested .
Whites raped and murder yet not in media .
Africa is those people live savagely like animals .he is still 100 % terrorist
TheAryanson 4 months ago 3
White South Africans were cunts were they not though?? Apartheid etc.. fuck off.
shrickman 4 months ago
Mandela and many others did what they needed to do to destroy an illegitimate regime and create a democratic country.
BunnySpangle1 4 months ago
@Vengrence, you say things have changed for the worse, for who? Things are not perfect but more people are better off than before. I cannot speak for other race groups but I believe things are better for the black man today than they were 20 years ago.
Fhedzani 4 months ago
@Fhedzani keep telling yourself that and then wonder what went wrong later. It takes time for the breaking point to be reached, but its very close now
Gnubnub 4 months ago
All leaders have blood on the their hands...Mandela is no exception, sometimes blood is the only currency for change.
Fhedzani 4 months ago
@Fhedzani Things have only changed for the worse, though.
Vengrence 4 months ago
Real facts!!!Shown by video and photos!Let the whole world knows the truth about the ANC(African National Communists)
12375130 5 months ago
Stupid video, you don't know shit you weren't there to know what really went on.
souffwesttexs 5 months ago
God bless Mandela for killing the enemies, you cannot make an omelette without breaking the eggs. If we do not kill the enemies, they will kill us. It is as simple as that.
Salahuddin2009a 5 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a Your "enemies" gave you everything from maize to an alphabet. You call those who brought you the closest ever to success, an enemy . Seek genocide for me and then ask me for help and...(crickets chirping in the background)..... 8(
There has never been a success in Africa, Not one! Fifty countries have had fifty years and the joke has already gone stale. Mandela sold you this deal, he must have a brilliant plan for you. Its too smart for me, ill give you the tip.
Gnubnub 5 months ago
@Gnubnub
On your channel you say that you are from Australia, and we all know what the Europeans have done to the indigenous people of Australia and Africa and USA and Canada and other lands they entered into. Now is the time for paying back, no more slavery and abuse and murder by the whites.
I do not want the maize and the alphabet, I want the head of my enemy on the table.
Salahuddin2009a 4 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a I have nothing to do with anything the Europeans ever did to the indigenous people of Australia. I came to Australia a few years ago. Guess what, they get sit down money off my tax. In Africa my tax built black schools at a phenominal rate only for these to be burnt down. Slavery is not a whites only legacy believe it or not, and if you want to speak of murder, there is just no contest as to who did what in South Africa. Put a mirror on your table and you will see your enemy.
Gnubnub 4 months ago
@Gnubnub
RE: they get sit down money off my tax ..
It is their land, they are the landlords and you must pay rents for living on their lands. You can leave if you do not like it!
RE: Slavery is not a whites only legacy believe it or not ...
I believe you; if you read the Torah or the Book of Numbers in old testament of the Bible you will see that Moses was actually the biggest slave driver and murderer and rapist of all times. So you win this round!
Continue ..
Salahuddin2009a 4 months ago
@Gnubnub
RE: Put a mirror on your table and you will see your enemy.
I know the enemies that are behind me and pretend to be my friends but are ready to stab me in the back, I do not need a mirror to see them!
Salahuddin2009a 4 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a Yes well in Europe the whites pay the sit down money as landlords, In South Africa there is a tax on business to help small businesses to start - as a pilot project we were a small business trying to start by all definitions of the word but we were not black! And contrary to popular belief The white mans land in SA is 1 in the cape his because he got there first
2 in the free state his because he found only bones from the difeqane
3 anywhere else SIGNED on paper in good faith
Gnubnub 4 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a How can the REAL GOD bless someone who murder others?He(God)said;the murderers,etc. will be thrown in a pool of fire(with Satan)..forever.Get a Bible and read the truth.
12375130 5 months ago
@12375130
RE: How can the REAL GOD bless someone who murder others?
Read the Book of Numbers of the Bible, under the instruction of G-d, Moses killed all men and women and boys of six nations and took all the virgin girls as sex slave. It is all in the Bible, read the Bible it is online in 80 languages!
Salahuddin2009a 5 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a How can you compare the deaths of countless lives to making an omelette, you have a point of view, thats your god given right. Although i am sure that you would feel differently if those eggs happned to represent lives that were important to you.
sourlinks 4 months ago
@sourlinks
RE: How can you compare the deaths of countless lives to making an omelette ...
I have lost lots of relatives and friends in war and that made me what I am today. Why should I be the victim? Why shouldn’t I kill the enemies and watch their relatives and friends and families suffer the same pain they imposed on me?
An eye for an eye is a fair law.
By the way, next time you fry an egg, remember that the egg was supposed to become a chicken not an egg on toast!
Salahuddin2009a 4 months ago
@Salahuddin2009a i dont eat eggs. and i am sorry that you have been a victim of war, but you should never wish pain and suffering on the innocent. i hope time can relieve you of your hatred and im glad that the past has only made you stronger.
sourlinks 4 months ago
The most stupid fact is whites applauding Mandela and making him a hero for killing their own kin.
gorfaf88 5 months ago
Makes me sick to see Mandelas statue in London, but dont worry, a few days ago when i was in the city i made sure i spat on it!
flighty1996 5 months ago
@flighty1996 HAHA GOOD FOR YOU
aldismews 5 months ago
@flighty1996 It's really just a perch for the pidgeons to shit on, stops them doing it on the ground, and it also attracts them.
Bodine48 5 months ago
@Bodine48
hahah yes! I would like to cover up the statues face, at least then it could just be mistaken for a statue of a small troll
flighty1996 5 months ago
@Gnubnub It's unfortunate that you seem unable to move passed your misunderstandings. I don't really understand your last rambling- punctuation and half sentences. Could you explain again? It does seem like you are making a few blanket statements. Do you not acknowledge that apartheid was a war, a war that we are still feeling the repercussions of now? I'd like you to research Mandela's doings after his release, before he was president... I'd like u to see him in his rightful, peace-making light
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
@JoeMayson008 1 OK ill try the language of bunny huggers instead.
Suppose for an instant your country was re-administered by friendy communists with a wonderful new outlook to share what is yours. They had retained that portion of land that they were historically on with the exception of lands granted for services rendered by your ancestors to them. Your people now lived on this granted land and lands that were bare because of the difaqane. Now thier land was on the highest rainfall... goto 2
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@Gnubnub 2 areas generally speaking, (you can check this out by simply googling up any image of South africa's homelands and any image of South Africa's rainfall - its just a fact) but their land had little on it as they had not developed it much. Every attempt had been made to allow these people (who do not mix without warfare) to develop their own countries that were by neccessity small and seperate (as they tend to err.."reduce" each others numbers). Some examples of this are...3
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@Gnubnub 3 the forced removal of whites by the white's government to create the homelands, funding of universities, full autonomy granted etc etc.. but still your area looked better so they tended to move in with you with a view of sharing what is yours. All of this was forseen and laws were put in place to prevent these people who were not so very long ago equal in number to your people from err "sharing" too much. Anyway to cut a long story short suppose the life expectancy was now ...4
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@Gnubnub 4
10 years less - thats 10 years x 60 million people or more than half a billion man years. This reflects health wealth crime and many things. Do you think the man who worked his way to the top with a few limpet mines, songs of genocide, hand written documents on "how to be a good communist" ie the one that ruled you for a while should get the credit for a good portion of this result? If he gets just 0.001% credit then he caused 6000 years of life to be lost!
Gnubnub 6 months ago
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Gnubnub 6 months ago
Nelson Mandela is a terrorist who lead a violent terrorist organisation, why cant people understand this!?
flighty1996 6 months ago
@flighty1996 You are so right.Now they call him a icon.They cannot run a nation,They will murder you and sit next next to their mutilated victims and eat the victims food. what a sorry race .
dutoit 5 months ago
@dutoit
Its hard to find people that agree with me about the terrorist Mandela, im pleased i have found some people. if other terrorists started talking about anti-racism and peace, do they somehow become an icon for good? NO so why should Mandela.
flighty1996 5 months ago
Um...he was anti-white, he believed in and supported killing whites.
theothertoolbox 6 months ago
Please, tell me who he killed? Are you referring to the St James Massacre? Cos that was by APLA - a rival faction to Mandela and the ANC... So that's definitely not true... I wonder what you would do if you and your people were oppressed, tortured, killed, beat down, just because you (as is so obvious) are white...? How would you act if your dreaded 'terrorists' took over your country and treated you like dogs... but only the white people and priveledged the black people... Wouldn't you fight?
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
@JoeMayson008 Hey I probabably would If I thought there was a hope of succeeding. Only thing is They got 50% of the usefull land available (remember to include botswana and exclude the desert) and they were 50% of the people in 1868. In fact the land that the whites got was earned in deeds requested and signed off fair and square so nobody took over their country at all! and if the Matebele were not chased away they would now be exterminated. and the land belongs to the san people so there!
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@JoeMayson008 Get a copy of the "Long walk to freedom" written by none other than one Rolihlahla Dalibhunga Nelson Mandela and read on from “As a leading member of the ANC's executive committee, I had 'personally signed off' in ..."
He and his comrades were caught red handed with 210,000 hand grenades 48,000 anti-personnel mines 1,500 time devices 144 tons of ammonium nitrate
21,6 tons of aluminium powder 1 ton of black powder and he (1st person) Quote: "personaly signed off" .
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@Gnubnub WTF! Do you understand what soft targets are? Did you actually read the book or not? During Mandela's time as leader of Umkhonto weSizwe, the only focus was soft target e.g. power lines, train tracks, oil refineries etc. Special care was taken NOT to kill or harm any civilians. They meant to disrupt and irritate the racist, oppressive state. Where are you from anyways?
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
Hard targets: 77 year old mrs Rys and 3 year old kornelia Koekemoer from the train station bomb. my mom was at the station. Do you know exactly when the church street bomb was set off? 4:30 PM RUSH HOUR Not in the building IN THE STREET. What was that great speech from Mandela's wife... oh yes "with our boxes of matches and our NECKLACES..." Perhaps you don't have family who were actually there! I heard Magoos bar explode, at that time the President was?...Why didn't he renounce violence then?
Gnubnub 6 months ago
OK so Nelson was not president, but Botha had come and gone, Mandelas freedom (and probably presidency) all on the table if he would just renounce violence in Botha's time. Do you know what happened just after those offers were made? The violence went up dramatically. Some people just don't understand peace!
Gnubnub 6 months ago
its not how u start but how u finish! racist bastards like yourself sewed the seeds of violence by taking away human rights and oppressing people, without this he may not have had to do the necessary to free this country. dont be so annoyed that mr mandela never turned out to be the savage u labeled him, and angry that the country has done so well since 1994, so in the words of the great man himself go jump in a pool, better yet piss off back to wherever u came from!!
seanjhb1 6 months ago
Mandela has never killed a white or black or coloured man. South Africa was in a state of turmoil after 1990 with many rival factions squabbling over the ensuing power. It took spirit-like leadership from Madiba to guide South Africa into a successful democracy. Please do not disrespect his achievements. South Africa is a changed, beautiful country and mauch of it is thanks to Madiba. I am a white South African and it pains me that so many people think that apartheid was purely black vs white.
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
@JoeMayson008 Correction, Mandela PROBABLY, never DIRECTLY killed a white or black or coloured man. He himself admits that he signed off the church street bombing AND PEOPLE DIED.
Gnubnub 6 months ago
@Gnubnub Where and when did he admit that?
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
Some of these posts are sickening. Mandela's ethos is one of equality, compassion and unity. This video is unfortunately very damaging as it posts too much of a negative picture of Madiba. I recommend watching some interviews of him, taken during apartheid as well as when he was president. He is a man who fought for his beliefs. If you are from America is not democracy a fundamental value in your society? Don't you think that Mandela is righteousfor standing up 2 a terrorist minority government
JoeMayson008 6 months ago
@CentralScrutinizerxx What the hell, such a shit idnt heart,since hitler says,the jewish people are mostly bad,white nation are peaceful? who came to the the continet which laters calld america(north/south) an killed 100000`s auf peoples which live the,peaceful,before the white man came and begin to kill an destroy from the inca till the indians(indiander) the white man came,from spain first,the vikings came in the first millenium(400-800/900)but the dont killed other peoples,like the follower
Subraumspalte 6 months ago
He's a hateful nigger and a terrorist. He should be cremated in prsion instead of feeding this creep for 27 yrs. Hell, if i am a prisonguard there - this bozo is dead long time ago...
tiborvivi 7 months ago
@tiborvivi, are you serious? i mean, its almost like you think his violence was non-retaliative? you sound like your beyond ignorant and far from intellectual so maybe you should catch at least up on some english lessons to enable you to intellectualize your thoughts, so you can move away from relying on your limited red-neck vocabulary and then maybe you could contribute to a discussion on a civil rights movement
ellmacreid 6 months ago
@CentralScrutinizerxx Seriously, is that you trying your hardest? When blacks arrive??? Hahahahahaha. Did blacks go to America on their own? No, because they were kidnapped and brought there and given the slave mentality. You failed to name "one nation" where whites have made peace and harmony. Please, for the good of yourself get rid of that sub conscious defence in your mind that stops you from hearing the truth.
darrouken 7 months ago
@CentralScrutinizerxx Hahahaha, please elaborate on your point and also please tell me one place in the world where the white man has gone and made peace and harmony.
All I see if you types is hypocrisy, but I digress I don't hate whites for their wrongs or blacks for theirs because the bottom line is there is good and bad in all races.
All Power To All People!!!
darrouken 7 months ago
@BahreNeGash True true like how they have african-american reperations for the descendants of slaves who died 200 years ago
RedZHunter 7 months ago
Wow, the more you find out some things from the past, the more confusing this whole thing gets. Maybe one should just refrain from politics and focus on building a future for oneself. But one thing I know is that there are very caring whites to africans and africans to whites, true story. This whole hating game is just sickening because there is just a lot of things we are not honestly told, this whole apartheid and democracy situation has a lot attached to it.
MphozaShowbiz 7 months ago
@grysflyt Youre the racist for saying there are no innocent whites Afrikaners.
RedZHunter 8 months ago 2
@RedZHunter
Sure there are innocent White Afrikaners, just like there are/were innocent Germans, when Hitler EXTERMINATED 6 Million Jews, when England exterminated millions of Irish, Scots & Wales.
Sadly,,, it's always the good INNOCENT people who take the rap for all the crimes committed in their name.
BahreNeGash 7 months ago
@BahreNeGash
Actually, the famous "6 million" was invented during WW1, along with other anti-German propaganda, but the Zionists didn't have enough media control to make the accusation stick. Then, in WW2, the genocidal Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenberg resurrected the myth. Surprisingly, he did this well before Soviets even occupied Polish or German territory.
For more info, you might look on the Web for: "Were the Germans so Stupid"
Shalom!
LibertaerUeberAlles 6 months ago
Imagine, GOVERNMENTS knocking down doors all over Europe, taking UNARMED CIVILIANS hostage to simply EXTERMINATE a race?
While you may have GOOD POINT, who ever controls the media get's to manipulate information, actually it's NOT the NUMBER-FIGURE that's hard to believe.
What makes the CRIMES so hard to fathom is,
1. the SELECTION OF VICTIMS, race & religion.
2. the gruesome nature of the crime.
3. the size (whole families) & Ages of the victims.
4. the UNARMED CIVILIAN nature of the victims.
BahreNeGash 6 months ago
If u did not know, Mandela's dream was 1 where he cherished an ideal 4 a free non racial society in which all persons live in peace and harmony. That was an ideal which he had hoped to live for and achieve, but if needs be it was an ideal for which he was prepared to die. For his ideal he was sentenced to life imprisonment, 4 in the eyes of racist SA, living in harmony was terrorism n high treason. While Mandela was cut out of society, millions other Mandelas picked up the sword n soldiered on
Mochinimix 8 months ago
Fact: Blacks ruin everything.
islamsucksturds 8 months ago
@islamsucksturds, couldn't have said it better myself.
MrSydneyKing 7 months ago
@islamsucksturds Fact: Whites ruin every civilisations they've come across, but I don't hate you or whites because hatred is a burden.
darrouken 7 months ago
@darrouken Like I said , the KneeGrow race ruins/destroys everything. Every country inhabited by large numbers of KneeGrows is a fucking garbage dump. LOL
islamsucksturds 7 months ago
@islamsucksturds Who are you to criticize? When you support the most corrupt nation in recent history.
darrouken 7 months ago
There was no such thing as innocent white South Africans. South Africa under Apartheid was an evil, racist and corrupt nation run by evil, racist and corrupt people.
Mandela and ANC are only terrorists in the minds of evil, racist and corrupt people. Their opinions mean nothing.
grisflyt 8 months ago
@andylumeh Sorry black supremecist retard, but Jesus Christ himself was not black, hahahaha. To bad loser. I would say Jesus Christ was a fair skinned man with dark hair and eyes or a tan skinned man with those features or arab looking. All the people I just listed are much more related to Caucasions then blacks. Sorry bitch.
MeatstickRob88 8 months ago
@MeatstickRob88 But Jesus dont have any hate even if your black or white !
Joheke87 8 months ago
A few points...
1) ANC only partnered with the Comunist World because the West refused to help.
2) Violence was onlu used as a last resort .. after years of peacful prrotest
3) Necklacing was mainly carried out by the UDF.
Rather include all the facts not just the ones that suite your agenda.
ryanabap 8 months ago
Your spelling is as poor as your presentation is twisted.
paulurban2 8 months ago
he is an absolute asshole funded by Jew communist assholes and a mass murderer as was his fat greedy wife. Both typical black africans
Anglichanen 8 months ago
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mandela was betrayed by a whiteman traitor. the white traitor was giving mandela a lift in his car when he drove straight to the white aphertied police station where the aperthied white police slime balls were waiting. may all their souls rot in hell for turturing good mandela and the others for 27 years on robin island. one day after mandela is gone south africans will revenge on the whites on a mass scale.
andylumeh 11 months ago
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andylumeh 11 months ago
he is a black ass face cooooooooon.
fucktheNAACP 11 months ago
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson
McDonald12345 11 months ago
And the American Revolution wasn't successful because Jefferson staged a successful sit-in protesting against George III. Washington and Jefferson were undoubtedly terrorists to the British throne. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. In reality the words are synonymous and their usage only differs with the point of view of the user. I prefer the side of oppressed blacks under apartheid. Apparently, you prefer the "saintly" acts of the S.A. National Party. Your choice.
McDonald12345 11 months ago
to the idiot bantu.......I am a boer and have spent my life employing bantus !so that they can eat, we have every right to South Africa. The country was built by Whites who came fought and conquered. A country only becomes a country when it has infrostructure which was non existant when my forefathers arrived here to set up a trade route to the East. Yes! your type are very stupid and we all know it!
Cuanist 1 year ago 2
@Cuanist well said mate!! that BAHRENEGASH is a IDIOT!!!
d0nc42 1 year ago
Obviously to explore to find the new world as it were! they never asked for it but sre do use it !!!! and if you asked them now they would say they are happy with it!! Africa could live with out infrastructure of course but when offered something new and better why waste it! well the "anti Communists" as you call me did make SA better cant you see that! 25yrs in prison not for trying to make it better but for HIGH TREASON!! fighting the people trying to make life better for them!! and it was!!!!
d0nc42 1 year ago
Terrorist Blown up Pretoria station and killed 46+ people whites and blacks
SuperTomcatUk 1 year ago
Terrorist! he was caught redhanded smuggling weapons into SA, thats why he was imprisoned.
antiazazel 1 year ago
In the name of "RACE, RELIGION or CLASS", YES, Human history has ALWAYS been a clash of interests, proving your point, "there will always be some who wish to keep their race seperate".
Take UK for example, the 700yrs conflict in the name of RACE or RELIGION, among the Englsh, Irish, Scots & Wales, is another good example to prove your point.
Your VALID point can NOT DISPROVE, human beings criss-crossed oceans & overcame obstacles to make this world a bettter place to live, for all human race.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
Do you mean STARVING ETHIOPIA, showing off MILLIONS of dead skeletons for the whole world TELEVISIONS to see & begging for "FAMINE AID", while waging ENDLESS internal ethnic & border wars all over the Horn of Africa is much better of than any nation on earth? HELL NO!!!
ENDLESS Ethiopian famines, Ethiopian ethnic & border wars has ONLY made Ethiopia the shame of Africa.
Shamefully, you are bragging about your own misery!
Too bad, you ain't fooling mankind, besides yourself.
WHAT A DISGRACE!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash On average, once every ten years, Eritrea is threatened with famine. Annual crop production depends on rainfall that is variable and unevenly distributed from year to year. Eritrea has so far not managed to raise crop production to a level that can support the entire population, and is forced to cover nearly 50 percent of its annual cereal requirements through imports-commercial and food assistance.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
In normal years the country produces about 60% of domestic requirements while in poor years, it produces no more than 25 percent. Last year crop estimates puts this figure at about 400 000 Mt of cereals out of a domestic requirement of 659 000MT for a population of about 3.66 million.
Eritrea remains a food insecure nation.
Hamaseans making fun of Ethiopian "famine" is typical of the pot calling the kettle black!
(((LoL)))
abeshaking370 1 year ago
@abeshaking370
Poor Agames,,,
The ONLY way you justify, rationalize & cover up your wicked mindset & ETHIOPIAN FAMINE is by simply putting everyone in the same basket case as Ethiopia. Too bad you ain't fooling anyone.
Agame,
The whole world knows,,, Africans are NOT in the same bascket case as HUMILATING Ethiopia.
If you have any doubts,,, Google "Ehiopian Famine" & tell me who you see on the videos?
Then again,,,beggars of your kind know NO SHAME!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash The Human Rights Watch 2010 World Report, covering events in 2009, summarised the human rights situation in Eritrea:
“Eritrea remains a country in shackles. Arbitrary arrests and detention, torture, extrajudicial killings, severe restrictions on freedom of expression and worship, and forced labor are routine...thousands of people fled the country in 2009 due to Eritrea’s serious human rights violations and indefinite military conscription.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
“Deaths in custody are common as a result of ill-treatment, torture, starvation, and denial of medical care. Many other detainees have ‘disappeared,’ their whereabouts unknown. In 2009 a reliable website reported the deaths of four prisoners held because of their religious beliefs; three died after torture, the fourth after denial of treatment for malaria.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
“The Eritrean government is also responsible for extrajudicial killings. Some deliberate killings occurred during detention, others when prisoners attempted to escape confinement or flee the country. The government maintains a ‘shoot-to-kill’ policy for anyone caught trying to cross the country’s borders.” [29d] (p2)
abeshaking370 1 year ago
2005 Ethiopian police massacres
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Protests of the "election" results began on November 1, 2005, and have prompted more than 60,000 arrests. Live gunfire from government forces has been directed at protesters and bystanders. All the top opposition leaders were arrested, as was the mayor-elect of Addis Ababa.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@abeshaking370
2005 Ethiopian police massacres
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Ethiopian police massacre refers to the killing of innocent people by government forces during June and November 2005 which led to the deaths of 193 protesters and injury of 763 others.
More than 30,000 people were detained by security forces following the FAKE election.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
especially through absence of toilet facilities and the prevalence of diarrhoea among prisoners forced to use a bucket inside the container for a toilet. One former prisoner told of detainees being forced to lie in diarrhoea as a punishment.
Medical treatment for torture injuries or illnesses caused or exacerbated by prison conditions is not provided in any of these places of detention beyond the most minimal medication dispensed by medical assistants.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
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BahreNeGash 1 year ago
Prisoners held in shipping containers are locked up for almost 24 hours a day. Children are held with adults. Containers, which contain no cell furniture, are overcrowded and become extremely hot and suffocating during the day and very cold at night, with little room to sleep or move. The conditions are unhygienic and infectious diseases spread rapidly.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
Torture and ill-treatment
Torture is systematically practiced within the army for interrogation and punishment, particularly of conscription evaders, deserters and soldiers accused of military offences, as well as members of minority churches. The secrecy in which political prisoners are detained, to the extent that virtually all are detained incommunicado and have effectively been "disappeared", makes them particularly vulnerable to torture and ill-treatment.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
Abuses of military conscripts
National service, comprising military service and development service such as road-building and construction work, remains compulsory and extended indefinitely for all men aged between 18 and 40, although women are reportedly allowed to leave at the age of 27. The internationally recognized right of conscientious objection is denied. This applies particularly to Jehovah's Witnesses who refuse military service (though not development service) on faith grounds.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
In September 2001, the government arrested 11 former government ministers and EPLF leaders (members of the dissident Group of 15, "G15"). They were members of the National Assembly and long-time colleagues of President Issayas Afewerki. The President also accused ten journalists detained a few days after the G15 arrests in September 2001 of being "spies and mercenaries" who had supposedly clandestinely supported the G15 "traitors" on behalf of Ethiopia.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
Zuma noted that South Africans' average life expectancy had dropped from 60 in 1994 to just below 50 years in 2010.
Hmmmm.. something happened in 1994, I wonder what it could have been.
Symptoms of an ANC government :
50 000 000 people x 10 years less life = half a billion years of life lost !!!!
Way to go Mandela, you paid for 27 only 499 999 973 owing!
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Just like South African Whites settling in South Africa more than 300yrs ago, Europeans settling in Australia, North & South America,,,etc, have been through TRUBULANT ADJUSMENT, before coming togather to build a commmon destiny.
SADLY, most of these "IMMMIGRANTS, SETTLERS & NATIVES" waged civil wars to settle their differences. In the end, they ALL managed to BUILD a nation, with common destiny to accomadate each other.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash The notion of a common destiny is one of a single race. Examples are like hens teeth where two races get along in the same territory. Perhaps miscegenation is for the better, but there will always be some who wish to keep their race seperate. The discontent will flare up again of this you can be certain. For history does not seem to show a happy non-homogenious population as the norm. I see a whole continent were they did not manage to BUILD ANYTHING once the domination stopped.
Gnubnub 1 year ago
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Oh no! Watch out for communism LOL!
KillFrenzie 1 year ago
Now that Aparthide is over and south africa has black rule, I heard it is an oasis of peace, prosperity and love. thank God those wonderful citizens got those wihtes to shove off.
punchpringle1 1 year ago 2
@punchpringle1 you dumb arse!!! i live here and it's F@#$%^ hell here! highest violent crime in the world. highest aids and rape rates... this country is nothing of what it was before.
braammalan 1 year ago
@braammalan I was being ironic
Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words or actions.
punchpringle1 1 year ago
@punchpringle1 PPFFFF HA HA HA. You heard wrong!
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@punchpringle1 you are a dead set Idiot!! you obviously have some sort of comprehension problem!! if you recon South africa has peace and prosperity now without the whites,then you have major problems man good luck in life!!!!.IF you are even apart of it!!!
d0nc42 1 year ago
@d0nc42 You must suck cocks in an insane asylum if you believe that! This country has flame throwers on the sides of their cars to keep carjackers away. You're just one dumb uneducated fuck. Quit wasting my time you homes bag of shit/. A survey for the period 1998–2010 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.
punchpringle1 1 year ago
YES,a terrorist in the past.he changed.it is so possible.people [mostly Americans] im British btw if think i would do this after being in jail.he knows what he did.and wanted to earn a new name not 'the terrorist' now 'the hero'
wwegamer025 1 year ago
Since when did fighting against colonialists, displacing, exterminating & looting your people became TERRORISM?
The first US president George Washington fought against English colonialists to liberate America? DOES THAT MAKE GEORE WASHINGTON A "TERRORIST"?
HELL NO,,, It made him a national hero.
For BILLIONS of people around the world, MANDELLA is a hero.
Those who lost the war against Mandella are still having hard time swallowing their sour-grape
WELCOME TO BITTER REALITY, DEFEAT!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago 2
@BahreNeGash Funny how its easier said than done.
Ethioness 1 year ago
@Ethioness
To find out GIVE IT A TRY,,,
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash The word terrorist needs to be defined first, but I think singing songs of genocide would take the credibility of of the word hero, just a little bit.
It would be a little tricky too, to justify signing off on the church street bombing when there were government and strategic targets available.
Anyway now that Homo Praedicativus been educated on the slogan "liberation before education" and them muscled into leadership role we can wait in anticipation for err.... change.
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
If George Washington fought the English colonialists to liberate America & deserved to earn free homeland, with out being condemned to be a "terrorist", what makes Nelson Mandela any different than "George Washington"?
There's nothing "terrorist" about people refusing to succumb to colonial masters.
At the end of the day, those who have hard time recognizing the FREEDOM OF A NATION has to be forced to the will of the people.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash There are few places on earth where the locals did not have to fight for what they had.
While I don't agree that anyone is better off for what Mandela did, warfare was probably all that was left to achieve his aims. So the fact that he committed acts of treason or war could be excused. HOWEVER, among Mandela's hand written notes were notes on Chinese Guerrilla warfare (SURELY THAT IS TERRORISM) and how South Africa under communism would be a land of milk and honey.
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Mandela fought for his land & his people.
For those who WANTED to subject 30 million black South Africans to 5 million White immigrants "Aparthied" system, Mandela is certianlly a nightmare.
But to the 30 million black South Africans, Mandela is an eternal hero who gave most of his life for the liberation of his people & his homeland.
Those who can NOT have their way in South Africa, can label Mandela any name under the sun.
No "terrorism/communism" applies to a Hero like Mandela.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Communism does so too apply.
Here's a quote "The Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be completely crushed and wiped from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realised.”
The notes presented at the Rivonia trial titled "how to be a good communist" was hand written by one Rolihlahla Dalibungu Mandela. Go ask him to deny it.
IT IS FACT!
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Life is NOT about Communism, Socialism, Capitalism,,,,,,
Life is about LIBERTY,, just like it has been said,,,,,,, "GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH".
Therefore, enjoy your liberty & pray for others to live in liberty, just like you do.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash What Liberty?
Am I free to live in my own community led by my own people?
When I pay taxes, where does the money go- my own people perhaps?
Who decides where the money goes - my own people perhaps?
Can I get a job with my own people?
Can I even keep a job even though it is my own family business?
Can I build something for myself?
These were all rights that Verwoed Recognised for the blacks, but there is no reciprocal recognition when those who outbred us decide to take OUR country.
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Just like George Washington & the American People rose up against the English colonial system, demanding "GIVE ME LIBERTY or GIVE ME DEATH", a nation is liberated & built by people who believe in FREEDOM.
If you have any other practical legal questions, read your Constitution & ask your political representataives. from local to national level.
Wishing you all the best!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Yes well, I have no doubt the law says very encouraging things.
Now getting back to reality.
We have had The bomber of Magoos bar put in charge of policing us, The infamous Dr beetroot who drank her own liver transplant into oblivion ran our health care for some years. A president who never made it through primary school to lead us. Would it not be reasonable to allow us a state which we may govern just ourselves. We were quite willing to take the dessert for crying out loud
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Hey,,, No ONE is forcing you to live under the very circumstances you are complaining about. As for those who refuse to succumb to "Aparthied", they are entitled to fight for "LIBERTY", just like you are entitled to fight against Mandela. If you have what it takes to lead a nation, go for it. GOOD LUCK on your new political proffession!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago 2
@BahreNeGash The CPJ research showed that secret detention centres in the reclusive Red Sea nation held the most journalists in Africa, an unbroken record for Eritrea since 2001 following the government’s brutal shutdown of the private press and the arrests of 10 editors.
(((LoL)))
abeshaking370 1 year ago
@abeshaking370
Agame,,,
If following me ALL over youtube "componsenates your own inferiority complex", KEEP IT COMING,,,,
Too bad, this video has nothing to do with your own inferiority complex or your target, "Eritrea".
FYI: This video is about Nelson Mandela, a man who fought for the liberty of his own people & achieved Liberty & Nobel Prize for his struggles & achievments.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Prior to January 20 every bad thing in Eritrea was touted as proof of an American-led conspiracy against Eritrea. Daily anti-American diatribes peppered the regime-controlled airwaves and print media. The regime attempted to deflect all complaints by claiming America and its puppet, Ethiopia, were an immediate threat to Eritrea’s sovereignty and/or territorial integrity. Criticism of the regime was thus tantamount not only to sedition, but also to treason.
abeshaking370 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash No one is forcing us????!!?!!
What so "we can simply leave" as Charles Nqakula says. Never ever did we force them out of any territory they had. Out of what was within the South African Boundaries we Recognized Botswana as theirs, Swaziland as theirs, Lesotho as theirs, all the homelands. we WANTED them to govern themselves We were forcibly removed by our own white government to make it possible with 1/2 the people they got 1/2 the land, but they want what is our bit too!!!??!
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
What you are missing or denying is that THREE HUNDRED YEARS OF INJUSTICE, may have created a lot of hatred & conflict of interest, among ALL South Africans.
After 300yrs in Africa, the Afrikaners are entitled to be treated just as NATIVE-SOUTH AFRICANS as the rest of Africans.
But "HOW DOES ONE RESOLVE THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST & CENTURIES OF INJUSTICES is very important to all envolved.
NEGOTIATIONS IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR ALL.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash It was not about injustice to the black man, It was about protecting ourselves. Yes we got nasty and they got trodden on, but they kept flocking to us despite this, while we just wanted to be separate.
The problem is that now they want our stuff as they made nothing on their land, and we are leaving.
As nobody wants to pay for our fixed possessions we leave with very little, and as we get a raw deal why should we care when it all goes south!
Negotiation? That would be nice!
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
Remember, Europeans moved to Africa to live among Africans, just like they lived among Aborigines in Australia & Red Indians in America.
But you say, Europeans "just wanted to be separate" in the name of "It was about protecting ourselves."
OH REALLY,,, One wonders,,, Why did the Europeans MIGRATED to Africa?
Please EXPLAIN if separation was INTENDED to provide protection,,, why "MIGRATE" to Africa?
WHY NOT STAY IN EUROPE?
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeBANDA! No wounder you're so mad, even with Egyptian and British mediation The TIGRAYAN/AGAME WARRIORS YOHANNES and RAS ALULA sent your hamasean banda "ras" welde-micheal to starve to death in a prison on a mountain in Eritrea. the banda of bogos! Even his hamasean son Mitson was sent to the mountain with him!
hahaha looks like Isaias Afewerki is next! Ras Meles gonna send him to nakfa to die!
(((LoL)))
abeshaking370 1 year ago
@abeshaking370
History of Eritrea
War for independence
Wikipedia encyclopedia
"These all happened with each Eritrean fighter fighting 20 Ethiopian soldiers while eating, drinking, and wearing virtually nothing, sleeping on rocks and thorns in colossally cold and dry places. When the story of the Eritrean fighters is raised, words start to run short; it is best to end the story by saying "Untellable".
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@abeshaking370
History of Eritrea
War for independence
Wikipedia encyclopedia
"By 24 May 1991, inside Eritrea, close to 1 million highly trained & armed-to-the-neck Ethiopian soldiers had been killed, thousands of tanks, hundreds of thousands of armoured vehicles and military tracks had been sublimated, a couple hundred fighter jets and helicopters had been smashed into pieces, infinity number of heavy and light weaponry and ammunition had been destroyed or captured".
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Service for Life
State Repression and Indefinite Conscription in Eritrea
April 16, 2009
This 95-page report documents serious human rights violations by the Eritrean government, including arbitrary arrest, torture, appalling detention conditions, forced labor, and severe restrictions on freedom of movement, expression, and worship. It also analyzes the difficult situation faced by Eritreans who succeed in escaping to other countries such as Libya, Sudan, Egypt, and Italy.
LoL
abeshaking370 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash
Your Question - "if separation was INTENDED to provide protection,,, why "MIGRATE" to Africa?"
Only SA Relates to me not Africa in general.
Starting with "why go" (in 1652) - to set up trade with India. No Bantu were met with at this time, only San and KhoiKhoi. These are extremely peacefull people.
Then we have Bantu -the race we term black -meeting us 100 years later at Port Elisabeth
- we needed seperation after that! The Xhosa Stole Cattle and murdered people.
Gnubnub 1 year ago
@Gnubnub
After 300yrs living in the same "ENVIROMENT" (nation), I wish ALL South Africans were able to resolve their diffference in civilized fasion & manage to build a common destiny, just like all other Europeans who settled out of Europe.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash when is this Mandela going to peg!! Hell he is one of the biggest clowns to walk this earth what a dick head!! who wears shirts like that!!!! its funny all you mandela lovers recon he is loved by majority of the world!! youd be so mistaken its the media that portrays what they want you to see!! have a chat to people other that the floppys in South africa!! you make me laugh at how nieve you are!!!! keep South Africa well wait at the phone when you cry out for ASSISTANCE!!!!!!
d0nc42 1 year ago
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BahreNeGash 1 year ago
YOU DID NOT MIGRATE TO AFRICA TO ASSIST AFRICANS. Did you?
And, for millions of years, the AFRICANS lived on their own NEVER NEEDING YOU nor your assistance.
Too bad, you can not fool all the people all of the time.
Little did you know, the days of hiding behind "ANTI-COMMUNISM", while EXTERMINATING indigenous people has been expired long time ago.
Conning Africans ain't picnic anymore.
Therefore, GO BACK to your own roots, EUROPE, & preach to your fools, leaving Africa to Africans.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Look and listen carefully if thats possible!! if it wasnt for the European settlers there wouldnt be the infrastructure you can afford and us daily! you would be a fool to think that people dont recognise the communist regime the ANC is and was!!! there was never a case of conning a African they cant be taught anyway EG look at AFRICA and look at Europe big difference!!! Africa civil war And disease and corruption due to NO IDEA and Europe need i say more!!! keep africa its stuffed!
d0nc42 1 year ago
If Europe had more to offer than Africa, why did your ancestors migrated to Africa?
So you migrated to Africa, out of your good heart to build "infrastructure", the Africans NEVER asked for?
And Africans could NEVER lived with out you & your "infrastructure"?
And "ANTI-COMMUNISTS" of your kind would have a better heart & mind to make South Africa better, than those who paid 25 years of their lives, in the dungeons of your wicked-empire?
NOT TO WORRY ABOUT AFRICA, WHEN YOU CAN STAY IN EUROPE.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash hey man watch the Vid again he was in "dungeons" cause of terrorist acts and treason and if you think ANC isnt a communist party what is he doing with commie ties in the vid?? and asked bout fidel castro his answer was go jump in a pool!! Great leader !!MY ASS were you from anyway man? are you african or what? you talking and sound like some Hippie! whats your background? just interested to know.
d0nc42 1 year ago
@d0nc42
Oh Yeah,,, One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, just like the Boers who fought the English occupation.
BTW: Refusing to succumb to 300yrs of Dutch farmers club (Apartheid), ain't treason.
After all, "COMMUNISM" was NOT around when Dutch immigrants occupied & looted South Africa.
NOT TO WORRY about Africans. Keep your ass & your infrastructure out of Africa, for they lived with OUT you & your "infrastructure" BUILDING PYRAMIDS TO REACH THE STARS, for thousands years.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Not your commie friends they have no pyramids but mud huts and grass way to go sucked in to you man you and your commie bastards got the raw end ye us Euros love it with out you monkeys!! dont have to worry bout anything just wich clean beach to go to!!! you will never know how good we have it keep your poor black self empowerment Vids and hope for some love! at the end of the Day your still Africa! dark ages. Mandela is just a puppet and you clowns make him move by your stupidity
d0nc42 1 year ago
@d0nc42
WHY DID YOU & YOUR ANCESTORS MIGRATE TO AFRICA?
Africa must be BETTER than your European FROZEN caves.
But, if you are NOT TOO HAPPY living in Africa with Africans, MOVE BACK TO EUROPE.
Trust me, NO AFRICAN will miss you.
Barking your heart out against Africans on the Internet is NOT going to gain you back your lost "GLORY".
As for Africans,,, living in mud houses or BUILDING PYRAMIDS to reach Gods, they will OUT-LIVE YOU, just like they out-lived your ancestors.
WELCOME TO REALITY!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Internet was invented by the Europeans so i use it to inform clowns like you!!reality you preach to me bout reality?? the reality is that you are still a Commie lover and will always be backward i said all i have to say good luck to you!! may you realise one day that africa had it good and they all threw it away!!! you and the commies will be saying if only!!! how sad!! you may out live us but we will always live Great!! we migrated to africa to help you idiots but shame you lost
d0nc42 1 year ago
@d0nc42
WHO CARES WHO INVENTED THE INTERNET??? Certainly NOT a South African Boar.
Trust me, the commies are far more BETTER than your wicked creed leaving Europe for Africa, to ONLY back-stab Africans.
Certainly YOUR MERCENARY SADIST CREED can NOT be good to Africans as the commies could be.
BEING COMMIE IS A BATCH OF HONOR WHILE MERCENARY OF YOUR KIND IS A VIRUS OF EVIL EMPIRE.
Again, if you are NOT very happy living among Africans,,, Try living with your cousins.
Good luck!!!
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Who care who invented the internet? said like a true Idiot!! well it wasnt a African now was it!!! look at Africa and look at Europe such a difference!!! Its funny you like to say to me and others get out of africa but its you idiots and the Africans that always call on the Europeans or the West for help when inevetibly you have gone to shit!! AGAIN!!! please help us donate money to the starving cure HIV help us with the violence!!! does this sound familier?? it should its Africa!!!
d0nc42 1 year ago
@d0nc42
You can't possibly tell me an Australian-Kangaroo-chaser has anything to do with Internet, besides EXTERMINATING the indigenous Aborigines?
Little did you know, your the South African WHITE boy-friend is claiming to be AFRICAN.
BahreNeGash 1 year ago
@BahreNeGash Just a little info, Australians dont chase kangaroos, we're not as primal as american tv makes us seem. I think what yas need to realise is that every country and every person, has different beliefs.. Im not gonna place an opinion on what i think about nelson mandela because i was never their to witness the affects of his actions before or after prison, who would know better than those who were there? It comes down to individual beliefs. Do rights make up for wrongs?
karlayoxx 11 months ago
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@karlayoxx
Sure, in the EYES of American "free press", prestige, glory & profit is earned by brain-washing the gullible.
In the Americam media's QUEST for "great empire", every human creed is expendable in the name of "FREE PRESS". Therefore, I agree with you "Australians dont chase kangaroos".
Your LOGICAL reasoning & common sense is IMPRESSIVE.
Sure, "every country and every person, has different beliefs".
Three centuries of seeking justice & "democracy" does NOT make one "terrorist".
BahreNeGash 11 months ago