Planet Killer War

[ReverendSyn]

@Helge129 I seem to recal an episode of DS9 where the Defiant was easily outmanuvering a Massive Klingon warship in the mirror universe.

[Helge129]

@ReverendSyn The NX-74205 I assume? It's a small ship. It's 120 meters long, that's 2 747s. I can let that go as rather maneuverable. But anything much bigger, like the Enterprise, would simply break into pieces, no matter what it's made off.

[ReverendSyn]

@Helge129 In Enterprise the Defiant 1764 was swooping in and pwning other ships too.

You seem to keep conveniently ignoring my point about previously thought impossible feats being made possible through science. This is the future. They obviously scienced a way around it.

[Helge129]

@ReverendSyn Well, you can do it, yes, but you will do the ship about as much good as doing loopings and barrel rolls in a 747 or A380. You break it.

[ReverendSyn]

@Helge129 Alright. Consider it dropped.

[archigos]

It's an intergalactic Shai-Hulud!

[SilverMcdowell1992]

I haven't seen this in years, but even with the flaws in the special effects, this is so much better than Trek '09.

[TheGallianthe]

Agggghhhh! The Planet Killer had BABIES!!!

[Topher7527]

not very accurate but its awesome anyway

[lectricanman]

isnt this the song from shadow the hedgehog or is it from sonic teams? eh at least i know its from a sonic game

[CaptainRoyMustang170]

@lectricanman Sonic battle race game

[supressorgrid]

If one has the ability to create an artificial gravity field, it is a simple matter to use the field to overcome the effects of momentum. A ship massing many hundreds of tons therefore may manuver like the most nimble of fighters.I allways figgured the Enterprise traveled inside a bubble of subspace inside of a space warp.

[CherryONeil]

GREAT JOB!

[satyrquaze]

Course, the Planet-Killers moving like serpents doesn't help anything either.

[Xondar11223344]

Huge starships would never move like that. It's kinda like depicting an aircraft carrier moving like a speed boat.

[mcflurey667]

@Duskstorm150  that is a very very good question, i was thinking exactly that.

[marekpicard]

got video got music

[SR71ABCD]

As I startrek fan I say this is not part of the Startrek universe and no starship can't move like that now that taking a mic!

[Allosaurus87]

live and learn ( sonic adventure 2)

[othur]

That was really good! Wish there was more but make the planet killer more lumbering instead of serpentish. Damn that looked good.

[eldergroan]

these fan made episodes are really worth watching - they routinely get ST veterans to appear like Walter Koenig and Nichelle Nichols among many others. search for "Star Trek Phase II". you won't be dissapointed

[B5guy]

Its cool because it's like the Starship and Planet Killer are living machines, their parts move like something alive it's cool.

[RobertMfromLI]

Well, we all know the Big E definitely has a very human tenacity; always exceeding her design specs, hanging on keeping her crew safe and dishing out the "kick ass" in the end no matter how beaten up she is.

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[championx5]

OMG if a starship turned THAT fast, it would lose hull integrity easily.

[ReverendSyn]

Its space. There's no gravity. So weight wouldnt be any sort of an issue

[championx5]

There's NO gravity in space????? Dude, there is always some GRAVITY in space. And you need to take in account the inertia. STUDY NEWTON'S LAWS!!

[motojeff]

I guess he is saying that all matter loses mass in space????

[Helge129]

@motojeff Nothing loses mass in space, merely weight.

[LucaTurilli89]

@championx5 there is no gravity in space because you need bodies which make it. :)

[ReverendSyn]

@championx5 Study THIS. *finger*

Ships hanging in space like lumps of lead and moving sluggishly. Yeah, that's certainly the very definition of excitement if I ever heard it.

Watch Star Wars. The Millenium Falcon and all the fighters move exceedingly quick. If they can move so quick theres no reason the Enterprise shouldnt.

This is the future. Just science up some way around it. That's the whole point of science. We do tons of shit now we couldn't even a decade ago.

[Helge129]

@ReverendSyn The millenium falcon is the size of a 737 at most. The Enterprise is I think half a fricken Star Destroyer.

Big ships = Slow maneuvering, not necessarily slow movement itself tho.

[ReverendSyn]

@championx5 That's what SCIENCE is for. To figure out around stuff like this.

My Aunt had a cancer operation that ten years ago they said could never be done. Guess what? THey scienced a way to do it. Tell someone two centuries ago about the Wright Brothers. Theyd say it was impossible. But Im pretty sure they did do it.

No reason to belive that in two whole centuries we can't figure out some way to do things we think are impossible now.

[Helge129]

@ReverendSyn There is always gravity. Even two particles on the very oppsite sides of the universe atract eachother.

[Helge129]

@ReverendSyn Would you be surprised if I told you every particle in the universe exerts *some* gravitational force on every other particle in the universe?

[corvus1970]

Little something called intertial dampeners. Its the reason why the people inside don't become bloody smears along the walls when the ships accelerate into high sublight velocities. It also maintains hull integrity during extreme maneuvering.

[spacecowboy5000]

@corvus1970 Inertial dampeners apply only to internal ship systems (check the Technical Manual). This violates Newton's Laws of Motion - "laws" not "suggestions". A starship has lotsa, lotsa mass and that mass can't be moved form 0 to full impulse in half a second. It's impossible in any universe. As Scotty was fond of saying, "Ye canna change the laws of physics!"

[RichardBullittBush]

@spacecowboy5000 Just a question about your comment. Warp technology in the ST universe, to my knowledge, consists of the reactor pushing power to the nacelles to create a subspace bubble around the ship. This bubble would then allow the ship to move at faster-than-light speeds, right? While I don't think the physics in this video are right (although the video is awesome), wouldn't the application of the bubble allow for quick movements if the warp reactor was used in quick bursts?

[Justicar333]

@RichardBullittBush My understanding of warp technology is this. That the warp nacelles are used to create a 'ripple' in the fabric of space. "Warping" space, which the ship then rides much like a surfer rides a wave to achieve faster than light travel. This is why most ships have the nacells 'aft' of the ships main mass, to generatve the field behind them with a fixed direction. The principle was why in Next Gen they discovered subspace tearing from warp drive use.

[MrMeter]

Great effects / poor cinematography.

[omega311888]

was that the guardian of forever that the starship flew through at 2:36, 2:37? at any rate,  well done. the thought of more than one planet killer is the stuff of nightmares!

[epithumia2007]

It was a much bigger version of the guardian, found on the same planet.

[omega311888]

awesome  thanks

[FLAME4564]

can anyone tell me if Australia is gonna be reciving this eppisode plz? do respond.

[epithumia2007]

FLAME4564, it's not a broadcast episode. It's from the Star Trek New Voyages website.

(3rd time I tried posted this, so apologies if eventually turns up 3 times!)

[abacab987]

in the original series, the photon torpedoes were often launched from the planetary sensor dome, and the phasers were located at different points each time they were used. This video repeatedly shows the long range sensor array being used as a plasmatic pulsar device. ...hmmm,

okay.

the basis for a good novel?

Try your hand at writing!

[smcneal057]

???????

[BlackValkyire]

Love the music from Sonic Adventure, what's the first song called?

[cycler2009]

Attack of the killer ice cream cones!

[kosh1968]

hemmmm.... constitution class star ships moving like B5 alliance white stars? lol. what a concept :D

sweet song and video. well done.

[SajuukHackwrench]

@ kosh1968:

Well the Sovereign can apparently move like that

and is 10 times heavier in mass than an Consti.

So, sure nothing speaks against being that agile for the Consti in that case. ;)

[wangpangu]

It's space man... they can do anything they want (and did you see how much the crew used to throw themselves around? sometimes the ship must have been upside down)

[Skybaby79]

Like the roll maneuver much?

They're star ships, not F-14's

[koalabrownie]

Yeah no shit. The ships were moving a little strange to be sure. The freaking Defiant from DS9 doesn't even move that slick.

[MauricioCasteglione]

@koalabrownie I think that the Enterprise ( refit ) is moving to fast. I don´t think that she´d move as she did at 4:27. However, I do like ST New Voyages.

[deathman595]

yeh agreed nothin is that good a maneuvering

[Makrokosmos]

win.

[murryduck]

wtf?

[EvolutionStratus]

Whoa this is like Star Trek TOS with Babylon 5-quse effects. O.O Fuckin awesome!

[rysnyper50002]

5 stars, this is awsome!

[GhostRider0071701]

this was pretty cool. what song is it? please respond

[TokoGT]

Live and learn

[LuispicardV2]

well, to now, i dont kwow the extern diferece of the Uss Enterprise of Pike and the Enterprise of kirk of the original series.

in the episode of Where no man has gone before, the ship was how the captain Pike, but in the next episode of the corbomite manuver, the Uss enterprise is the constitution class of all serie. When i see this fan serie, i know the diference.

Werever, the 3 models of constitution for me , are exelents ships.

[ilikepie350]

I couldn't stop laughing. This is just so freaking gay....

[vudumojo]

incredibly bad ass

[WUZLE]

Great, the Doomsday Machine is a Von Neuman machine now. Never a good thing.

[DEP717]

Right,Wuzle, I noticed that too! Ruh roh!

[liontone]

At 1:33...whats the deal with the ship "pulling back" before taking off... like speed buggy or something???

Good model though...

[ReiPuma]

"Kirk" looks like he has a bird nesting backwards on his head, and people are annoyed by the maneuverable starships?

According to the fiction, they're ships which leap to hundreds of times lightspeed in an instant (requiring extensive forcefields to avoid disintergrating themselves and their crews), and their mere attitude-control thrusters are powered by nuclear fusion.

Star Trek ships moving like Babylon 5 ships? Outrageous. The acting and bird's butt hairdo? Those're cool. Go Sonic.

[MasterTalon]

If you remember in Star Trek II, look how they battled in the Nebula, they didn't zip around like in this video, which I like the graphics and all, but prefer the movies and original shows and all. Even by the time of First Contact and Nemesis, the ships didn't zip around all crazy like. Still, it's neat to watch anyway.

[FLAME4564]

heh anyone that hates this can go stfu and shove it up ur asses

[MacHaxxor]

Sonic + Star Trek= The ultimate geek combo

You are to be worshiped as a god!

[supressorgrid]

There was a TNG book where Picard discovered it was one race's way to deal with the Borg. I cant recall the title.

[FlyingVthesecond]

what is the name of the song ?

[heavyarms01h]

Is this Before Dishonor? I know what you're talking about. The aliens were the "Preservers" from TOS who had transplanted a population of Native Americans to a new planet to preserve their culture. They were attacked by the Borg in that novel and this was their attempt to resist.

[hhague]

My Question is

Is the Doomsday Machine a Doomsday machine

It could be a Simple Heavy Duty Mining Machine

and what happened to it, did the federation hide it, refit it?

was it ran by remote or was their a bridge

No one knows yet what the writers will make it out to be.

for this video, I still like the old maul

[supressorgrid]

Like, part of the Vogon Constuctor Fleet making a new hyperspace bypass.

[KronnangDunn]

I think that the Enterprise moves like a goddamn jet fighter. No offense, but I don't like it...

[enragedmenace]

I think it's awesome. A little opposite of the establiched speed and what not, but cool none the less.

[Kyzersawsay]

Well youd think in the future we could accomplish such things?

[Fooblestheclown]

Wow...the technology you can use at home today is 100% greater than what Desilu studios used in the 60's. I can never forget how phony that melted up AMT model originally looked like, going in the Planet killer.

[Fooblestheclown]

Wow...is there anything a nerd can't do? They are now creating there own episodes of Star Trek. I guess I'll be deleted if I say that Iam also a Space 1999 fan.

[BygPhattyPlus]

Deleted, no! You will be applauded and cheered!

[jdubb921]

Cool, this from Star Trek the new voyages

[cyberia23]

This is Trekkie Geekdom at it's most extreme.

[enthusia492]

All I have to say is... if this was what star trek looked like origionally, everybody would be watching it.

[novadesigns]

Asstacular... at best.

[CylonDorado]

No offence, but those were some Ehfed up Doomsday Machines.

[Airportchris2]

I agree, they aren't true to the original, in design.

[heavyarms01h]

Yes, they looked a little slim, flat, and sectioned compared to what we saw in the original series.

[gonepostalmanny72]

I thought the doomsday devices were awsome. The part where that ship cloaks was something I could see all day. The Federation should have kept that cloaking device and also the phase cloak.

[heavyarms01h]

Ah, that wasn't cloaking. The Farragut had used the Guardian of Forever to go back in time and correct the damage to the timeline the time-travelling Doomsday Machine had inflicted. Once the mission was complete, the Guardian returned Kirk and his crew to their time (at the same time putting them back on Enterprise instead of Farragut) and that was what you saw.

[gonepostalmanny72]

Really? Too bad, that would have been so cool.

[peterparker12]

The time-traveling Doomsday Machine? So now these things are diabolically intelligent now? groan.

[redstar170]

I am not a fan of the whole time travel thing but the DD Machine is not superint. It accidentaly bounced back in time,an annoyingly common occurence in even canon star trek.Still they make good episodes

[SUPERMAN3K]

Dude, what's the music?!

GREAT video!

[heavyarms01h]

"Live and Learn" by Johnny Gioeli, the theme from Sonic Adventures 2, I think.

[SUPERMAN3K]

Thanks very X 100000000000 much, dude.

[heavyarms01h]

It's no problem. I had a very difficult time finding the full version of the song (not the looping version found in the game itself).

[Destructor111]

IT's a most impressive show, with Very nice CGI... in freeze frames... but in motion, the CGI in that show makes it look like these massive, slugish starships are suffering from ADD, bouncing around like models on strings, exactly what CGI was invented to avoid. The direction of the effects sequences in that otherwise excellent show makes me sea-sick. About this music video? Nice editting job... not so hot on the song, although it does fit the manic pace of the ridiculous CGI.

[lennier1]

Credits for the purple pic near the beginning (Enterprise & Reliant): http://www.thelightworks.com/i­ndex_e.htm

[lennier1]

Nice video. Of course the credits for the CGI stuff go to the guys at newvoyages.com.

[heavyarms01h]

Impressive plot - The planetkiller's true power, Enterprise at her best, the Daedalus-class, the Guardian of Forever, even Enterprise-refit. If THESE guys had been writing the 3rd season of Trek, maybe it wouldn't have been canceled!

[IsaacJoule]

That was a pretty impressive display of CG.

[TokoGT]

"The Doomsday Machine" Star Trek TOS #35, Season 2. Airdated 10/20/1967. I just watched this episode on G4 last night on 6/1/06. And about 9-10 of the facts they displayed I already knew. Im a HUGE fanatic of the doomsday machine. Ive seen it about...*cough*67*cough* times :)

[ELOfanatic]

cough*i'm almost at 100*cough.. can't wait for the remastered version!

[Fbueller129]

@TokoGT I wish they would have explored the origins of the planetkiller in one of the future series. I know there was a TNG novel that featured a larger more powerful version. It stated that it was built to combat the Borg, using stripped or assimilated worlds as fuel. Heck, they could have found one in Voyager and used that to fight them...that is if Janeway didn't have some moral issue with it.

[TokoGT]

@Fbueller129 Voyager encountered a planet killer in the comic book series 'Planet Killer'. And in the Before Dishonor story where Janeway was 'absorbed' into the Borg collective and attacked Earth, Picard hatched a plan to awaken the origional planet killer and use it to fight the Borg threat.

[heavyarms01h]

@TokoGT So am I, and it was a lot of fun watching this video because of the long, drawn-out, and very creative battles between the Enterprise, the Farragut, and the Doomsday Machine. I guess there's something thrilling about watching a starship at her best, fighting for her life, isn't there?