@firewings12 You ignorant and paranoid generation of mine. The Lord will exact his vengance the right shall overcome you and what you know. Open your eyes.
This revelation makes no implication that the whirlwind would specifically go through SLC??? It says, " and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth." Even if it did, then it begs the question: What is the Lord talking about? Will the event even be discernible to the worthy? It is ominous, "And upon my house shall it begin." I personally don't think it has begun. I personally believe that when it begins in His house, things are going to escalate with rapidity.
Yea. When i heard that the angel mormoni was struck by lightning...i knew, i just knew that it wasnt a coincidence. Dont ask me how i knew. I just knew.
@TheSoulamore How blind can you be? The tallest building will be struck by lightning as will the Lord rest his dwlling place will rest on high when he comes. You are foolish to think that there is evidence for doubt because of lightning preforming as the Master Himself created it to.
LOL, This is nothing more then the other loads of never ending anti-Mormon propaganda. When will you lost souls learn, if any of it is true then it's all true and I got news for you... It's true and it always will be even until the moment that you stand face to face with God while He tells you that it is His only true church on the Earth.
Handshakes aside, the Mormon church was BORN out of lies and corruption, let alone there being corruption there today!
Interesting video nonetheless, and I WILL be using that handshake at any important meeting, job interview or person of importance that I come across in the future.
“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
I, too want answers from those leaders who use these sacred handshakes outside of the temple. I'm not stupid to see those handshakes and they are NOT accidental as it is difficult to do those handshakes without consciously doing so. It is not wrong to ask for an accounting of such blasphemy in the eyes of a mormon. It is NOT wrong to be accountable.... but it is also not wrong to repent often, no matter how grievous anything may be. Thank you for posting this.
Samuel, I've been through the temple, I know and understand why the LDS do this so called sacred hand shake. The truth is these hand shakes come directly from the Masons hand shakes and so do the symbols on the garments MORmONS wear. It's all fabricated and is not of God, but just some hokey symbols made up by man. Those hand shakes have been used by men far longer than the MORmON church has been around. You've got 2 B a MORmON 2 think repentance is needed if handshake is used outside temple
Do you really think that God is waiting for a secret handshake and a secret name, to let people into heaven? Read John 3:18,36 and 1 Corinthians 1:17,18. God is not a man, there is only one God. Isaiah 43:10,11 and 44:6 etc.
Thank you, Samuel for telling the truth! The BoM WARNs LDS members against blind obedience, satanic Masonry (Moses 5:29), polygamy (Jacob 2:23-24, D&C 3:1-11; warns against Joseph Smith's CARNAL DESIRES or he'd fall!), altering the BoM, & "prophets who cause my people to err" A profound NDE preceeded by a mother's 3 prophetic dreams disclosed the wickedness of LDS leaders. mormonstruthdotorg bridgingtruthdotcom stopziondotcom originalbookofmormonrestoreddotcom
Thank you for proving that temple tokens come from the Masons. Or do you think the Pope went through the temple? The video was well done, I don't believe a word in it, but it was well done.
"What is going on here? " The handshakes are masonic handshakes. Do your homework and understand that Joseph Smith stole them from the masons. Joseph Smith was a con man. The whole church is based on a man who was a liar. The Mormon church was built on a foundation of lies and to use Mormon scriptures to support your pathetic fear tactics is flimsy. I was born into the church and was active for most of my life.
whether we like it or not the Book of Mark reads in the last days Prophets and Apostles shall be persecuted and disblieved, so how did the Priesthood get restored to the Earth no I am not LDS however I am not going to be a Morman Basher what does any1 gain from that? I believe Jesus Christ is COMING SOON that is all I am trying to SAY
I lived the standards of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day for 30years until I found out all the Lies it was founded on. Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things;Hold fast to what is Good. So I did just that. and this False church had No foundation and was just as Mormom Apostle Orson Braat said it was! John14;6 Jesus said! I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! I cant see where he said ,Except throght ME and Joe smith,do You?? Great video!!
The only thing I don’t like about the video is that fact that you are implying that our church leaders are NOT of GOD. I’m sorry but Thomas S. Monson is a prophet of GOD and I would trust him with my life. It is a promise that Jesus Christ will kill or get rid-of any prophet that strays from Jesus or attempts to lead the children of GOD away from him. Our church leaders speak with Jesus constantly. This is Jesus Christ’s Church.
@snuffokk "Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm" I believe the prophets and apostles are called by God, but for the Lord's purposes. If God wants to test us by letting members take leaders at their word and not pursuing revelation themselves, he will do so, to our condemnation.
@snuffokk Try reading the book "The Mormon Murders". I guess Jesus told the church leadership to purchase the forged Salamander Letter from a sociopathic soon-to-be murder.
Most of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints will be punished / killed-Off first. The lord will start with all those members who have lied to get a temple recommend. I know personally a lot of members that SHOULD NOT have a Temple Recommends but they do because they lied to get it. I am not the Bishop therefore it is not my Job to Judge or Snitch on people. The lord will clean his house first
@snuffokk Sounds like you are just a couple steps away from becoming a suicide bomber. People like you are probably the only reason Mormon leader's question if it's ethical to keep up the fraud. Alas, they look at their wealth and social status and the thought quickly goes away.
...and the Lord said," Make unto me a secret handshake, and I, your God of all the many Gods, shall let thee pass through the gates of my kingdom in Heaven.. and if you shall not make unto me the secret and sacred of all handshakes, then I shall not let you pass through to my kingdom on the most high of the Celestial Kingdom, saith the Lord... and I shall cast thee out into darkness, for thou didst not know my secret handshake through the vail sheet and the five points of fellowship."
Not all things are right in our church. The Lord will send us some who will gather the elect in the last days. But we are still the terrestial gatherers for the world to come into. I for one weap for the restoration of Zion and Presidents who speak to God face to face as found in our scriptures and church history.
well don samuel, the spirit is here. The spirit testifies of darkness as well as light. If you feel it, remember that, you are witnessing the downfall of a people that once had promise as peculiar and now find themselves 'shaking hands' with the world!
The Book of Mormon was written for our day. We are to liken the messages unto ourselves. 1 Ne. 19: 23-24. In 1 Ne. 17:22 Laman and Lemuel (who have complained about the visions and "foolishness" of their father) complain that they were influenced to go into the wilderness and leave their friends, nice home, and end up suffering. They whined saying they knew that the people were righteous in Jerusalem [religious capitol]"1Ne 17:22. But nowadays those who speak the truth are mocked 1 Ne 1:19
@Tennor1 ....... Yes, the apostate Nephites felt the same way when Samuel the Lamanite was up on the city wall calling them to repentance. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
@samuelonthewall I weep for your soul. Half of what you've done is straining at nothing, the other half is the freemason influence. Don't you have something better to do with your time?
That "sacred token" handshake you are extolling as being compromised is a Masonic handshake. If you see anyone doing this handshake it is because they are Freemasons. Joseph Smith's temple ritual is Masonic at its core, a bastardized version. Of course, Mormons would say this is because the Freemasons had disseminated the rituals from the looting of the Temple of Solomon... Conveniently leaving out that none of the rituals practiced in the Jewish temple resembled either rites in any way.
@samuelonthewall It looks to me that you are pointing fingers towards the Leaders instead of concentrating on your own demise.Let there be one of you throw the first stone towards the sinner.Everyone will have to pay for his own wrondoings. Jews were always looking beyond their understanding and here you are apostasizing yourself for JUST judging the Men of God. Unless you are already in the BIG AND SPACIOUS BUILDING already!!!!
Actually samuelonthewall is right about the church being compromised. Yes, the members need to be changed. But I do need to ask the members a question: How does it feel to know that the temple symbols which are supposed to be held sacred and not given away for political, monetary or other agendas and favors have been compromised?
Oh Doug, my heart absolutely aches for you and others who are asleep, who have strayed from our Savior, and who have not seeked after the mysteries of Heaven. The wrath of the Lord will come swiftly on His house first. This is where the cleansing will begin. Those who hearken to the "arm of the flesh" will not hear his voice and will suffer tremendously. It's already started.
First, I had to go through the hassle of finding my user name and password, just so I could respond to this video. That's how much it disturbed me. Second, I feel as though many of the photos you snapped were irrelevant and coincidental. Third, I sustain my leaders. I believe that the Prophet holds all the keys to the priesthood, far more than a stake president, bishop, and certainly you. I feel as though most people would not know the significance of the index finger if you...
@dougcutler: The Lord will most definitely allow anyone, including the prophets to go astray and lead those who trust in the "arm of the flesh" instead of the Lord to also go astray. He will NOT take away our most basic right to free agency, not even those who call themselves prophets. When Lucifer went astray, did God the Father prevent him from taking 1/3 of the hosts in heaven with him? NO. We had our free agency then also. Why would he intervene here on Earth if he didn't in Heaven?
You clearly misunderstand or are purposely distorting our doctrines.
You either believe the Lord speaks truth or is a liar when He has said that "He will never allow any prophet to lead the Church astray". Keyword: ANY!
This is black or white. Not complicated, unless of course you are a sewing the seeds of apostasy.
The Lord never said that, Wilford Woodruff did. Thus the reason I support leaders in righteous "thus saith the Lord" revelation. Thanks for your continued comments regarding this video, it's helping my community interaction statistics.
I'm curious what your intent is, everything you showed was of the secular leaders, none of the church leaders were shown doing anything but shaking hands. What comes to mind from this, however, is some of the versions of man's corruption that led to the great flood, wherein the devil adn his followers took the order that God gave to His children and perverted for their own gain.
The purpose of this video is to show that the tornado that passed through Temple square is a warning from God that we ALL need repentance. For as the D&C quote states, ALL flesh has become corrupt before the Lord's face. So if the shoe fits, then repent. That is all.
You are a nut job...and an apostate to even suggest what you do here and you obviously stuck on this garbage of The New World Order ...and your dislike for Masonry is obvious as well as you lack the knowledge of the Gsopel and Masonry and its place alongside the Lord's TRUTH. You are walking the line of APOSTASY with this video ..."men's learning"...I will ALWAYS "follow the prophet"...for in doing that..we cannot be lead astray as those who FOOLISHLY follow the likes of "your understanding"
I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm. (2 Nephi 4:34)
@samuelonthewall: Just stick to studying the BoM and the standard works; prayer; temple attendance; obeying the commandments of God and charity, and you wont go far wrong.
It is not our job to "steady the ark". It is not our job to find "fault" with our Church leaders. God is in complete control, not us.
"Let us look around us and see how quickly men who attempt unauthoritatively to steady the ark die spiritually. Their souls become embittered, their minds distorted, their judgments faulty and their spirits depressed. Such is the pitiable condition of men who, neglecting their own responsibilities, spend their time in finding fault with others." McKay, GI, p 258
Again dougdcutler, I agree with you that it's not our job to steady the ark. I would never dream in doing so. Watch this video again, you will see that it's nothing more than a call to repentance. NONE of us are perfect and we all are doomed without the atonement.
You misread my former comment. I would never dream of steadying the ark. But I do call a spade a spade. It's up to the members to begin demanding that we live the covenants we make in the temple. It is for this reason that we all have need of repenting for abandoning the truths Joseph Smith restored. Thanks for you comments.
"I say to Israel, the Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as president of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the program. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so he will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. God bless you" (Discourses of Wilford Woodruff, pp. 212-13; see also Official Declaration 1).
It is up to the truth seeker to carefully examine the "fruits" of any man claiming to be a prophet. One such fruit would be "thus saith the Lord" revelation, like those found in the Doctrine & Covenants. If current revelations are missing, one can conclude they are dealing with a false prophet, and then the contradiction goes away.
First, I recognize that you have good intentions and agree we do need an awakening in the Church desperately.
It is also very clear to me that you have made President Hinckley and President Monson as prophets who have gone "astray" to some extent as you said "If we accept the fact that they are fallible, then we must ask which are right, the early prophets or the modern ones? Both cannot be."
Why be evasive about it? Come out and say you do not sustain President Monson or President Hinckley.
As I said in another post, I sustain the church leaders in righteousness, as we all should. I seek a confirmation from the Holy Ghost when the leaders ask something of the members, so I can know for myself that everything is according to the Lord's desire.
@dougdcutler - Remember, when Samuel the Lamanite got on the city wall to warn the Nephites, they already had the Lord's church among them. They saw him as a "nut job" too, in fact, they tried to kill him with arrows. Isn't it interesting how history repeats itself? Got arrows?
No one is obligated to sustain corrupted leaders (false prophets). If you are a temple goer you should know that what GBH and TSM did means that they are fallen. It is a sign smack dab in front of you but you don't want to face it. Sorry to be blunt, but that's how it is.
I know LDS always have a need for alittle repenting, but Salt Lake City is NOT the LDS owned city it used to be. There are allot non Mormons that roam SLC now, and there are allot of agendas there now. Some that do not even see eye to eye with LDS factions. That tornado took out a building to be designated by pro homosexual movement, and LORD destroyed it as the mockery it was.
There is nothing a mortal can do to please God except have faith in his Son. The old commandments are fulfilled in the new commandments given to us by Jesus, which are to love God and your brother.
This obedience thing will eat you up. Many members beat themselves up and develope guilt complexes not being able to live up to the demands of the church. I can release you from this bondage. Look towards the infinite Savior. There is freedom and liberty in Him. He is the only one that was worthy. He is the one that kept the commandments. In Him, every law and ordinance was fulfilled.
You have made some good points. Although they wouldn't publicly admit it, there are many members that agree with you. There is a big problem with the lds indoctrination. You have been taught that obedience to a religion is what God wants from all of us. That is far from the truth.
I'm curious what you read into "the handshake"? This pictures are of the National leaders hands- isn't it possible that this is like a Masonic sign? I know that Washington DC is filled with Masons.
Samuelonthewall... you are dead on correct. Thank you so much for creating this video. I also downloaded the Now.pdf doc from your website and I'm sending it along with this link out to everyone I know. It's time we all awaken to our awful situation and stand for truth and righteousness. My friend recently had this message revealed to her through inspiration: "The Lord's righteous remnant will no longer give excuse to darkness in high places."
@davidlory - No, this video is not pointing the finger at anyone except the membership of the church. If there is anything wrong in the Church, ultimately, it is not the leaders fault. It is the members fault. This has always been the case in any age of this world. The people get the leaders they deserve, political or spiritual. If there have been any changes or modifications of doctrine, it has been the desire of the majority of the members that these changes be made. We ALL need to repent.
Apparently, according to D&C 112: 23-26, "ALL flesh has become corrupt" before the Lord's face. I think its safe to say that we ALL are in need of repentance.
@firewings12 You ignorant and paranoid generation of mine. The Lord will exact his vengance the right shall overcome you and what you know. Open your eyes.
TheFallenAnd4gotten 4 months ago
This revelation makes no implication that the whirlwind would specifically go through SLC??? It says, " and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth." Even if it did, then it begs the question: What is the Lord talking about? Will the event even be discernible to the worthy? It is ominous, "And upon my house shall it begin." I personally don't think it has begun. I personally believe that when it begins in His house, things are going to escalate with rapidity.
Picknroll6 4 months ago
Yea. When i heard that the angel mormoni was struck by lightning...i knew, i just knew that it wasnt a coincidence. Dont ask me how i knew. I just knew.
TheSoulamore 5 months ago
@TheSoulamore How blind can you be? The tallest building will be struck by lightning as will the Lord rest his dwlling place will rest on high when he comes. You are foolish to think that there is evidence for doubt because of lightning preforming as the Master Himself created it to.
TheFallenAnd4gotten 4 months ago
LOL, This is nothing more then the other loads of never ending anti-Mormon propaganda. When will you lost souls learn, if any of it is true then it's all true and I got news for you... It's true and it always will be even until the moment that you stand face to face with God while He tells you that it is His only true church on the Earth.
df0x1977 7 months ago
Handshakes aside, the Mormon church was BORN out of lies and corruption, let alone there being corruption there today!
Interesting video nonetheless, and I WILL be using that handshake at any important meeting, job interview or person of importance that I come across in the future.
neil73 7 months ago
@neil73 lol
Picknroll6 4 months ago
@neil73 You are just blind as you are oblivious.
TheFallenAnd4gotten 4 months ago
“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
imationqwest 1 year ago
I, too want answers from those leaders who use these sacred handshakes outside of the temple. I'm not stupid to see those handshakes and they are NOT accidental as it is difficult to do those handshakes without consciously doing so. It is not wrong to ask for an accounting of such blasphemy in the eyes of a mormon. It is NOT wrong to be accountable.... but it is also not wrong to repent often, no matter how grievous anything may be. Thank you for posting this.
tombobbie1 1 year ago
Samuel, I've been through the temple, I know and understand why the LDS do this so called sacred hand shake. The truth is these hand shakes come directly from the Masons hand shakes and so do the symbols on the garments MORmONS wear. It's all fabricated and is not of God, but just some hokey symbols made up by man. Those hand shakes have been used by men far longer than the MORmON church has been around. You've got 2 B a MORmON 2 think repentance is needed if handshake is used outside temple
3Deditor 1 year ago
Do you really think that God is waiting for a secret handshake and a secret name, to let people into heaven? Read John 3:18,36 and 1 Corinthians 1:17,18. God is not a man, there is only one God. Isaiah 43:10,11 and 44:6 etc.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
Thank you, Samuel for telling the truth! The BoM WARNs LDS members against blind obedience, satanic Masonry (Moses 5:29), polygamy (Jacob 2:23-24, D&C 3:1-11; warns against Joseph Smith's CARNAL DESIRES or he'd fall!), altering the BoM, & "prophets who cause my people to err" A profound NDE preceeded by a mother's 3 prophetic dreams disclosed the wickedness of LDS leaders. mormonstruthdotorg bridgingtruthdotcom stopziondotcom originalbookofmormonrestoreddotcom
originalBookofMormon 1 year ago
Thank you for proving that temple tokens come from the Masons. Or do you think the Pope went through the temple? The video was well done, I don't believe a word in it, but it was well done.
xmorobertson 1 year ago
"What is going on here? " The handshakes are masonic handshakes. Do your homework and understand that Joseph Smith stole them from the masons. Joseph Smith was a con man. The whole church is based on a man who was a liar. The Mormon church was built on a foundation of lies and to use Mormon scriptures to support your pathetic fear tactics is flimsy. I was born into the church and was active for most of my life.
taj0nes 1 year ago
Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa.......
pride2Bme 1 year ago
whether we like it or not the Book of Mark reads in the last days Prophets and Apostles shall be persecuted and disblieved, so how did the Priesthood get restored to the Earth no I am not LDS however I am not going to be a Morman Basher what does any1 gain from that? I believe Jesus Christ is COMING SOON that is all I am trying to SAY
free2bekirk 1 year ago
I lived the standards of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day for 30years until I found out all the Lies it was founded on. Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things;Hold fast to what is Good. So I did just that. and this False church had No foundation and was just as Mormom Apostle Orson Braat said it was! John14;6 Jesus said! I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME!! I cant see where he said ,Except throght ME and Joe smith,do You?? Great video!!
MissGabi45 1 year ago
@MissGabi45 God bless you isn't great to be saved by grace not working like a dog,in order to be saved.
savedbygrace1972 1 year ago
The only thing I don’t like about the video is that fact that you are implying that our church leaders are NOT of GOD. I’m sorry but Thomas S. Monson is a prophet of GOD and I would trust him with my life. It is a promise that Jesus Christ will kill or get rid-of any prophet that strays from Jesus or attempts to lead the children of GOD away from him. Our church leaders speak with Jesus constantly. This is Jesus Christ’s Church.
snuffokk 1 year ago
@snuffokk "Cursed is he that putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm" I believe the prophets and apostles are called by God, but for the Lord's purposes. If God wants to test us by letting members take leaders at their word and not pursuing revelation themselves, he will do so, to our condemnation.
illmatic253 1 year ago
@snuffokk Try reading the book "The Mormon Murders". I guess Jesus told the church leadership to purchase the forged Salamander Letter from a sociopathic soon-to-be murder.
guriboy 1 year ago
Most of the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints will be punished / killed-Off first. The lord will start with all those members who have lied to get a temple recommend. I know personally a lot of members that SHOULD NOT have a Temple Recommends but they do because they lied to get it. I am not the Bishop therefore it is not my Job to Judge or Snitch on people. The lord will clean his house first
snuffokk 1 year ago
@snuffokk Sounds like you are just a couple steps away from becoming a suicide bomber. People like you are probably the only reason Mormon leader's question if it's ethical to keep up the fraud. Alas, they look at their wealth and social status and the thought quickly goes away.
Kolob4postlife 1 year ago
...and the Lord said," Make unto me a secret handshake, and I, your God of all the many Gods, shall let thee pass through the gates of my kingdom in Heaven.. and if you shall not make unto me the secret and sacred of all handshakes, then I shall not let you pass through to my kingdom on the most high of the Celestial Kingdom, saith the Lord... and I shall cast thee out into darkness, for thou didst not know my secret handshake through the vail sheet and the five points of fellowship."
momoboy2010 1 year ago
Not all things are right in our church. The Lord will send us some who will gather the elect in the last days. But we are still the terrestial gatherers for the world to come into. I for one weap for the restoration of Zion and Presidents who speak to God face to face as found in our scriptures and church history.
funlds 1 year ago
well don samuel, the spirit is here. The spirit testifies of darkness as well as light. If you feel it, remember that, you are witnessing the downfall of a people that once had promise as peculiar and now find themselves 'shaking hands' with the world!
elkbreath 1 year ago
@enuckolls
why are you so personally offended by this movie. I found it to be quite interesting and very informantive
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
I think the priority should be how the church's leaders and members treat one another and NOT the handshaking technicalities.
WELLSNOOPY1 1 year ago
The Book of Mormon was written for our day. We are to liken the messages unto ourselves. 1 Ne. 19: 23-24. In 1 Ne. 17:22 Laman and Lemuel (who have complained about the visions and "foolishness" of their father) complain that they were influenced to go into the wilderness and leave their friends, nice home, and end up suffering. They whined saying they knew that the people were righteous in Jerusalem [religious capitol]"1Ne 17:22. But nowadays those who speak the truth are mocked 1 Ne 1:19
rubyquartzsapphire 1 year ago
@mikeyjwest: that's a nice compliment! Thanks!
rockettelli 1 year ago
@Tennor1 ....... Yes, the apostate Nephites felt the same way when Samuel the Lamanite was up on the city wall calling them to repentance. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall I weep for your soul. Half of what you've done is straining at nothing, the other half is the freemason influence. Don't you have something better to do with your time?
Tennor1 1 year ago
That "sacred token" handshake you are extolling as being compromised is a Masonic handshake. If you see anyone doing this handshake it is because they are Freemasons. Joseph Smith's temple ritual is Masonic at its core, a bastardized version. Of course, Mormons would say this is because the Freemasons had disseminated the rituals from the looting of the Temple of Solomon... Conveniently leaving out that none of the rituals practiced in the Jewish temple resembled either rites in any way.
Telpeurion 1 year ago
@Telpeurion
You said: "Mormons would say this is because the Freemasons had disseminated the rituals from the looting of the Temple of Solomon"
Sorry.. that is not what Mormons would say... but go ahead and tell us more of what we would say. :-)
MrNirom 1 year ago
Noone ever said Democrat and Mormon worked together
jefe241 1 year ago
@jefe241 ...... Unfortunately you have missed the point of this video. It's a call to repentance. We all need it, including leaders.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall It looks to me that you are pointing fingers towards the Leaders instead of concentrating on your own demise.Let there be one of you throw the first stone towards the sinner.Everyone will have to pay for his own wrondoings. Jews were always looking beyond their understanding and here you are apostasizing yourself for JUST judging the Men of God. Unless you are already in the BIG AND SPACIOUS BUILDING already!!!!
FOTOFOTA 3 months ago
Actually samuelonthewall is right about the church being compromised. Yes, the members need to be changed. But I do need to ask the members a question: How does it feel to know that the temple symbols which are supposed to be held sacred and not given away for political, monetary or other agendas and favors have been compromised?
rubyquartzsapphire 1 year ago
oh my god
teceyS3 1 year ago
Oh Doug, my heart absolutely aches for you and others who are asleep, who have strayed from our Savior, and who have not seeked after the mysteries of Heaven. The wrath of the Lord will come swiftly on His house first. This is where the cleansing will begin. Those who hearken to the "arm of the flesh" will not hear his voice and will suffer tremendously. It's already started.
rockettelli 1 year ago
Dear Lamanite,
First, I had to go through the hassle of finding my user name and password, just so I could respond to this video. That's how much it disturbed me. Second, I feel as though many of the photos you snapped were irrelevant and coincidental. Third, I sustain my leaders. I believe that the Prophet holds all the keys to the priesthood, far more than a stake president, bishop, and certainly you. I feel as though most people would not know the significance of the index finger if you...
enuckolls 1 year ago
@dougcutler: The Lord will most definitely allow anyone, including the prophets to go astray and lead those who trust in the "arm of the flesh" instead of the Lord to also go astray. He will NOT take away our most basic right to free agency, not even those who call themselves prophets. When Lucifer went astray, did God the Father prevent him from taking 1/3 of the hosts in heaven with him? NO. We had our free agency then also. Why would he intervene here on Earth if he didn't in Heaven?
rockettelli 1 year ago
@rockettelli
You clearly misunderstand or are purposely distorting our doctrines.
You either believe the Lord speaks truth or is a liar when He has said that "He will never allow any prophet to lead the Church astray". Keyword: ANY!
This is black or white. Not complicated, unless of course you are a sewing the seeds of apostasy.
dougdcutler 1 year ago
The Lord never said that, Wilford Woodruff did. Thus the reason I support leaders in righteous "thus saith the Lord" revelation. Thanks for your continued comments regarding this video, it's helping my community interaction statistics.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
I'm curious what your intent is, everything you showed was of the secular leaders, none of the church leaders were shown doing anything but shaking hands. What comes to mind from this, however, is some of the versions of man's corruption that led to the great flood, wherein the devil adn his followers took the order that God gave to His children and perverted for their own gain.
h00pla434 1 year ago
The purpose of this video is to show that the tornado that passed through Temple square is a warning from God that we ALL need repentance. For as the D&C quote states, ALL flesh has become corrupt before the Lord's face. So if the shoe fits, then repent. That is all.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
You are a nut job...and an apostate to even suggest what you do here and you obviously stuck on this garbage of The New World Order ...and your dislike for Masonry is obvious as well as you lack the knowledge of the Gsopel and Masonry and its place alongside the Lord's TRUTH. You are walking the line of APOSTASY with this video ..."men's learning"...I will ALWAYS "follow the prophet"...for in doing that..we cannot be lead astray as those who FOOLISHLY follow the likes of "your understanding"
imtherealthing 1 year ago
I will not put my trust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his trust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm. (2 Nephi 4:34)
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall: Just stick to studying the BoM and the standard works; prayer; temple attendance; obeying the commandments of God and charity, and you wont go far wrong.
Yunginspirit 1 year ago
It is not our job to "steady the ark". It is not our job to find "fault" with our Church leaders. God is in complete control, not us.
"Let us look around us and see how quickly men who attempt unauthoritatively to steady the ark die spiritually. Their souls become embittered, their minds distorted, their judgments faulty and their spirits depressed. Such is the pitiable condition of men who, neglecting their own responsibilities, spend their time in finding fault with others." McKay, GI, p 258
dougdcutler 1 year ago
Again dougdcutler, I agree with you that it's not our job to steady the ark. I would never dream in doing so. Watch this video again, you will see that it's nothing more than a call to repentance. NONE of us are perfect and we all are doomed without the atonement.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall
You would never dream in finding "fault" with our Church leaders, but your video has in reality done exactly that.
As you were showing President Monson you flash "and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house."
We see right through it no matter how evasive you are.
You can spin it all you want, but you showed President Hinckley and President Monson as fallen prophets
dougdcutler 1 year ago
You misread my former comment. I would never dream of steadying the ark. But I do call a spade a spade. It's up to the members to begin demanding that we live the covenants we make in the temple. It is for this reason that we all have need of repenting for abandoning the truths Joseph Smith restored. Thanks for you comments.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall
"abandoning the truths Joseph Smith restored".
That's all I needed to hear. You are clearly an apostate in sheep's clothing.
dougdcutler 1 year ago
"I say to Israel, the Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as president of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the program. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so he will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. God bless you" (Discourses of Wilford Woodruff, pp. 212-13; see also Official Declaration 1).
dougdcutler 1 year ago
If modern prophets are wrong then are the following quotes and scripture from early prophets in complete contradiction?
dougdcutler 1 year ago
It is up to the truth seeker to carefully examine the "fruits" of any man claiming to be a prophet. One such fruit would be "thus saith the Lord" revelation, like those found in the Doctrine & Covenants. If current revelations are missing, one can conclude they are dealing with a false prophet, and then the contradiction goes away.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
First, I recognize that you have good intentions and agree we do need an awakening in the Church desperately.
It is also very clear to me that you have made President Hinckley and President Monson as prophets who have gone "astray" to some extent as you said "If we accept the fact that they are fallible, then we must ask which are right, the early prophets or the modern ones? Both cannot be."
Why be evasive about it? Come out and say you do not sustain President Monson or President Hinckley.
dougdcutler 1 year ago
As I said in another post, I sustain the church leaders in righteousness, as we all should. I seek a confirmation from the Holy Ghost when the leaders ask something of the members, so I can know for myself that everything is according to the Lord's desire.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall
Translation: You will sustain Church leaders, but when you decide they are not "righteous" you will lead yourself and others to apostasy.
dougdcutler 1 year ago
@dougdcutler - Remember, when Samuel the Lamanite got on the city wall to warn the Nephites, they already had the Lord's church among them. They saw him as a "nut job" too, in fact, they tried to kill him with arrows. Isn't it interesting how history repeats itself? Got arrows?
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall
lolz you really do believe you are the Samuel the Lamanite of our day.
I take back my original statement. You don't have good intentions.
dougdcutler 1 year ago
@dougdcutler
No one is obligated to sustain corrupted leaders (false prophets). If you are a temple goer you should know that what GBH and TSM did means that they are fallen. It is a sign smack dab in front of you but you don't want to face it. Sorry to be blunt, but that's how it is.
rubyquartzsapphire 1 year ago
I know LDS always have a need for alittle repenting, but Salt Lake City is NOT the LDS owned city it used to be. There are allot non Mormons that roam SLC now, and there are allot of agendas there now. Some that do not even see eye to eye with LDS factions. That tornado took out a building to be designated by pro homosexual movement, and LORD destroyed it as the mockery it was.
LDSapologist71 1 year ago
There is nothing a mortal can do to please God except have faith in his Son. The old commandments are fulfilled in the new commandments given to us by Jesus, which are to love God and your brother.
GiftoAll 1 year ago
This obedience thing will eat you up. Many members beat themselves up and develope guilt complexes not being able to live up to the demands of the church. I can release you from this bondage. Look towards the infinite Savior. There is freedom and liberty in Him. He is the only one that was worthy. He is the one that kept the commandments. In Him, every law and ordinance was fulfilled.
GiftoAll 1 year ago
You have made some good points. Although they wouldn't publicly admit it, there are many members that agree with you. There is a big problem with the lds indoctrination. You have been taught that obedience to a religion is what God wants from all of us. That is far from the truth.
GiftoAll 1 year ago
I'm curious what you read into "the handshake"? This pictures are of the National leaders hands- isn't it possible that this is like a Masonic sign? I know that Washington DC is filled with Masons.
NilesLDSlady 1 year ago
Samuelonthewall... you are dead on correct. Thank you so much for creating this video. I also downloaded the Now.pdf doc from your website and I'm sending it along with this link out to everyone I know. It's time we all awaken to our awful situation and stand for truth and righteousness. My friend recently had this message revealed to her through inspiration: "The Lord's righteous remnant will no longer give excuse to darkness in high places."
rockettelli 1 year ago
So, are you saying that the last two church presidents were evil?
davidlory 1 year ago
@davidlory - No, this video is not pointing the finger at anyone except the membership of the church. If there is anything wrong in the Church, ultimately, it is not the leaders fault. It is the members fault. This has always been the case in any age of this world. The people get the leaders they deserve, political or spiritual. If there have been any changes or modifications of doctrine, it has been the desire of the majority of the members that these changes be made. We ALL need to repent.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago
@samuelonthewall No, YOU need to repent. I have'nt done anything that needs repenting for the photos you put up. Nonsense, anti-mormon.
mormonanswerman 1 year ago
Apparently, according to D&C 112: 23-26, "ALL flesh has become corrupt" before the Lord's face. I think its safe to say that we ALL are in need of repentance.
samuelonthewall 1 year ago