Also, timing the stroking of the strings is quite simple. Consider six counts in time: 1-2-3-4-5-6. The first string and the fourth string last for 2 counts each; the second and the third string last for one count each: (12) (3) (4) (56) . So, the sounds go like: G-CCc-; G-CCc-; etc. (the dash is one count in time).
Hi, just a few observations: Try to "stroke" the strings, using the flat of the fingers, in order to avoid the sharp plucking sound. Plucking does not produce the right effect. Also, while plucking one string, make sure you don't touch and damp the other strings. You need all the strings to keep vibrating at the same time and produce a complex mixed sound. You don't want the individual string sounds to stand out separately.
hi, i need a tanpura that i can tune to drone in the same keys as the D and A strings (4th and 5th) on a guitar in standard tuning. would i be better off getting a male tanpura and tuning it up or a female and tuning it down? not sure weather this would kill the buzz or not
@heliumxheels well, if you knew how to press and pluck strings correctly, the proper lengths of tones, and the proper position of hands, what exactly did you expect to learn from this beginners video?
@snupcho You're right. It's a North Indian tanpura, (which I think is normally pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable: tan'-pu-ra), but a tambura is similar enough that it's a common error.. or even an accepted one. A tambura is the South Indian equivalent, with a slightly different shape, different carvings, and a buzzier sound. Both play the same musical role in the same way, and sound very much alike. Most likely, the names are interchangeable. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
@cactusleaf I would like to correct you, or rather contribute to the info you've given about the name Tambura, since in the country where I come from, Bulgaria, Tambura is a national instrument and it looks and sounds like this /watch?v=JRZM0sIf1_M I was searching in YouTube for Tambura and that's how I found out that there is an Indian instrument with the same name.
@Budapestitest no its not even a tambura, this is a tanpura a north indian version of a tamboora/ tamboori. Sitar plays the melody while this just gives the pitch and microtones, it is usually tuned to PA SA SA SA
Another question I have is this: is the tambura player expected to be as accomplished a musician as his or her sitar counterpart? Or, is the tamburist generally a person who can't play the sitar very well? Somewhat like the way mediocre violinists used to get stuck playing the viola....?
These videos are somewhat of a convoluted introduction to the Tanpura and you'd be better off learning how to play one from watching videos of them being used in a performance. The goal is to create a drone for the music that seemingly has no end and no beginning. Noone dedicates their lives to learning the tanpura, its a simple accompany instrument often played by a student. You'll be hard pressed to find a musician who only plays the Tanpura, its not that type of instrument.
I'm a total beginner as regards Indian music, but, is this instrument supposed to function somewhat along the lines as the "bass" would in western music? I realize, of course, that Indian music is NOT built around the harmonic structure that is had in the west. However, I think that the first western "bass lines" were little more than a drone - much like this. That's why I am wondering if this is how the western bass line developed over the centuries.
The one and only fundamental requirement of the tanpura is that it be in tune. In tune. LADY, THE LEAST YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO AS AN "EXPERT", FOR THE LOVE OF BRAMHA, IS TUNE YOUR DAMN TANPURA.
So the other hand just holds it up. You only have 4 notes to hit. How do you get different notes. Or do you just tune it for the song you are playing.
you dont get different notes. the tanpura plays the same notes over and over again. as for songs, the tanpura is tuned to the pitch 'sa' according to what raag the song is being sung in. the tanpura is merely an instrument played to keep the rest of the ensemble in tune. once you tune to the tanpura you are set to go. the other can rest on the gourd or your knee.
it's a drone insturment, you don't ìplay a songì but just keep a drone throughout the performance, and each string has to be tuned to create a precise harmony and keep the tonic or basic note.
I'v learned differently from Pandit Ravi Shankar ji...the pattern iv learned is Middle, Index, Index, Index. Mean no harm in this comment, just observing the different ways to play the instrument. The video is missing the actual roundness and continuity of drone, that is supposed to be there while playing the tanpura....thoughts? (again no harm intended)
you are correct, any actual tanpura player would play it the way you said, or only with the index, also the fingers should be as parallel as possible to the strings and the side of the finger shuld be used. This is not a traditional way to play it. I wonder what it's meant by 'professional' here.
I had both Indian and Western teachers and they all explained things differently but equally professionally. Of course, if you want just a poor imitation, anyone can do that...
she's playing it wrong, the fingers have to be placed in parallel with strings and not like that!! I wonder how they decide some people can teach such things... and when she sings it sounds terrible..
Honestly. For something this simple does it really matter? It sounds fine. Are you a guru with the Tambura? Are you honestly that much of an expert to critique her technique?
I think you could have chosen a kinder way to be critical of her methods.
And people here are called 'experts', I'm sorry it sounded rude, but I've been learning Indian classical music for ten years and even after two lessons anyone would know her technique is not correct. Sorry, but some people learn for a lifetime and then some beginner comes and claims to be an 'expert', even if it's a free lesson it should be honest...she clearly does not have a clue on how to use a tanpura.
I am sorry I sounded quite harsh. It's just that I find it hard to believe that an artform as beautiful as this would be so rigid as to prevent ingenuity. Perhaps I am missing something? Do you have examples of a good Tambura player we can use as an example?
You may not think her technique is "correct" but wouldn't it also be feasible to simply say her technique is just different? Who knows where she got her lessons from?
don't worry, I understand whatyou mean, but what puts me off here is that she is defined as 'expert' that's all, otherwise I'm ok if she wants to play it anyway she likes it! this is not 'how to play it' but 'how she plays it', the thing is that if you play it as she does you will get easily tired also, in concerts people have to play the tampura for at least two hours... I'll see if there is any good example to see and let you know!
I see your point. This would not be the first time I see a pseudo-expert. I've been doing Origami almost all my life and I've seen origami videos done by people who may have been doing origami just recently and explaining things very crudely.
I am sorry I have misjudged you, I should do research on this instrument when I get the chance.
don't worry, I also don't like random bad comments and anyone should be free to share here, but I don't like it either when someone is superficial about such a complex tradition as the Indian classical music.
You have been learning Indian Classical Music for 10 years and you don't know how to RESPECTFULLY disagree with people??? so strange and funny. Music also does good "SANSKAR" on an artist learning it.
I'm sorry but this is how many people have been cheated by fake gurus -often asking for good money- about an art that DOES require respect. I might have sounded harsh, I'm not perfect, but this art takes ages and sometimes lifetimes, I'm so sad when I see it misinterpreted and treated as a children game...
and I don't disagree, you are wrong, I'm totally offended. I'm one of those who struggle the whole year and save money and time to be able to practice and learn humbly before thinking of teaching. Teaching is a responsibility and this lady should have known, she's not just 'sharing' she's calling herself an 'expert'. This is cheating.
There is a difference in 'tanpura' and 'tambura' or (tamburica)...they're based of the same idea but they sound diffent and they're played different. From what I know the 'tanpura' is famous in India and the 'tambura' or (tamburica) is an instrument from the Balkan area...especially used by Bosniaks and Croats.
assholes this is not tabura the tambura is bulgarian bedore you tell me that i wrong im bulgarian and i know that this is not tambura
emsifara 4 months ago
Also, timing the stroking of the strings is quite simple. Consider six counts in time: 1-2-3-4-5-6. The first string and the fourth string last for 2 counts each; the second and the third string last for one count each: (12) (3) (4) (56) . So, the sounds go like: G-CCc-; G-CCc-; etc. (the dash is one count in time).
RatRaceAce 6 months ago
Hi, just a few observations: Try to "stroke" the strings, using the flat of the fingers, in order to avoid the sharp plucking sound. Plucking does not produce the right effect. Also, while plucking one string, make sure you don't touch and damp the other strings. You need all the strings to keep vibrating at the same time and produce a complex mixed sound. You don't want the individual string sounds to stand out separately.
RatRaceAce 6 months ago
hi, i need a tanpura that i can tune to drone in the same keys as the D and A strings (4th and 5th) on a guitar in standard tuning. would i be better off getting a male tanpura and tuning it up or a female and tuning it down? not sure weather this would kill the buzz or not
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JabalSabah 8 months ago
the lower octave sa string is not tuned properly.
dmanisthebest1 10 months ago
I love your video. Thank you for presenting this.
cosiogalko 1 year ago
does this video really have almost 40,000 views? rightttt.
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ruthamorneauvbt 1 year ago
because the place to learn how to play an ancient Indian instrument steeped in sacred tradition... is ExpertVillage!
ChibaFish 1 year ago
Dang there be some haters on here.
I thought this was a good video. I learned something.
heliumxheels 1 year ago
@heliumxheels well, if you knew how to press and pluck strings correctly, the proper lengths of tones, and the proper position of hands, what exactly did you expect to learn from this beginners video?
sjelos 1 year ago
I'm not being mean but, I literally just learnt nothing.
Nero111417 1 year ago
I was fingering in Simmering
and the moon was shimmering
and the wife i was fingering
has stolen my penisring
NarNu1 1 year ago
Such beauty emanates both from the player and the sound.. Very peaceful.
Namaste
rrmd2007 1 year ago
i cant see here coz of sub all over the fucking screen...
wowhorde12 1 year ago
she didnt even teach anything, and yes she does look like yoda haha
somedanceforjoy 1 year ago
I want one of these - I'll name it Richie.
andaloudog 1 year ago
She's so high... XD
LoloMusical 1 year ago
such a beautiful instrument
StairwayToHevin 1 year ago
Namaste and thank you
Konman68 1 year ago
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sinaprim 1 year ago
Sounds like fret buzz...
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darioxpowa 1 year ago
This instrument is definitely not Tambura.
snupcho 1 year ago
@snupcho You're right. It's a North Indian tanpura, (which I think is normally pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable: tan'-pu-ra), but a tambura is similar enough that it's a common error.. or even an accepted one. A tambura is the South Indian equivalent, with a slightly different shape, different carvings, and a buzzier sound. Both play the same musical role in the same way, and sound very much alike. Most likely, the names are interchangeable. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
cactusleaf 1 year ago
@cactusleaf I would like to correct you, or rather contribute to the info you've given about the name Tambura, since in the country where I come from, Bulgaria, Tambura is a national instrument and it looks and sounds like this /watch?v=JRZM0sIf1_M I was searching in YouTube for Tambura and that's how I found out that there is an Indian instrument with the same name.
snupcho 1 year ago
thats a sitar isnt it??? tambura is way smaller than that in the carpathian basin and sounds different not that much of resonance
Budapestitest 2 years ago
@Budapestitest no its not even a tambura, this is a tanpura a north indian version of a tamboora/ tamboori. Sitar plays the melody while this just gives the pitch and microtones, it is usually tuned to PA SA SA SA
omsatya 2 years ago
ahh I see but what is pa sa sa sa I guess its just a language barrier but i dont know what you mean
Budapestitest 1 year ago
Expert village sucks, it's just a bunch of hacks.
metemi 2 years ago
Another question I have is this: is the tambura player expected to be as accomplished a musician as his or her sitar counterpart? Or, is the tamburist generally a person who can't play the sitar very well? Somewhat like the way mediocre violinists used to get stuck playing the viola....?
Dogsledfan 2 years ago
@Dogsledfan a tambora player accompanies the sitar player giving the pitch and microtones of what he is playing
omsatya 2 years ago
It's not so much about that. The tambura drone is an important part of the music, so someone has to play it, that's all.
Anyway, you can invest as much time learning tambura as you can sitar - drones are complex sounds in themselves.
AsylumSeaker 1 year ago
@AsylumSeaker
These videos are somewhat of a convoluted introduction to the Tanpura and you'd be better off learning how to play one from watching videos of them being used in a performance. The goal is to create a drone for the music that seemingly has no end and no beginning. Noone dedicates their lives to learning the tanpura, its a simple accompany instrument often played by a student. You'll be hard pressed to find a musician who only plays the Tanpura, its not that type of instrument.
MrChicagoMusic 1 year ago
@MrChicagoMusic
I agree with what you're saying and didn't mean to suggest anyone would dedicate their life to the tanpura.
I did suggest though that drones are an underlooked facet of music and you can spend a lot more time on them than most people do.
AsylumSeaker 1 year ago
I'm a total beginner as regards Indian music, but, is this instrument supposed to function somewhat along the lines as the "bass" would in western music? I realize, of course, that Indian music is NOT built around the harmonic structure that is had in the west. However, I think that the first western "bass lines" were little more than a drone - much like this. That's why I am wondering if this is how the western bass line developed over the centuries.
Dogsledfan 2 years ago
Dogsledfan, yes the tambura is meant to be a drone in the background for the sitar or sarod to solo over
Cmix1a 2 years ago
expert village sucks major testis.
jazz4 2 years ago
The one and only fundamental requirement of the tanpura is that it be in tune. In tune. LADY, THE LEAST YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO AS AN "EXPERT", FOR THE LOVE OF BRAMHA, IS TUNE YOUR DAMN TANPURA.
cactusleaf 2 years ago
Where does Expert Village get these people??
FunkMan53 2 years ago
So the other hand just holds it up. You only have 4 notes to hit. How do you get different notes. Or do you just tune it for the song you are playing.
the1andonlybigh 2 years ago
you dont get different notes. the tanpura plays the same notes over and over again. as for songs, the tanpura is tuned to the pitch 'sa' according to what raag the song is being sung in. the tanpura is merely an instrument played to keep the rest of the ensemble in tune. once you tune to the tanpura you are set to go. the other can rest on the gourd or your knee.
punjabimonkeyz 2 years ago
it's a drone insturment, you don't ìplay a songì but just keep a drone throughout the performance, and each string has to be tuned to create a precise harmony and keep the tonic or basic note.
holikarang 2 years ago
Actually the two middle strings clearly play the same note (a Ré as i can notice). Theres no other way to change notes in this instrument?
shinjiemisato 2 years ago
man this instrument is AWESOME. HEAR THAT SOUND. NO ELECTRIC DISTORTION
thiagotecnico 2 years ago
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TuckmanJiggityJones 2 years ago 2
where could i find a free mp3 of tambura drone?
v10monster 2 years ago
She looks like Yoda.
Max0Inq 2 years ago 19
Word.
MrProgrock 2 years ago
@Max0Inq Tambura to play you will learn
DJSeba 1 year ago 22
@Max0Inq ROFL she looks like yoda
lol
cod4gearsman 1 year ago
I'v learned differently from Pandit Ravi Shankar ji...the pattern iv learned is Middle, Index, Index, Index. Mean no harm in this comment, just observing the different ways to play the instrument. The video is missing the actual roundness and continuity of drone, that is supposed to be there while playing the tanpura....thoughts? (again no harm intended)
tablaplayer9 2 years ago
you are correct, any actual tanpura player would play it the way you said, or only with the index, also the fingers should be as parallel as possible to the strings and the side of the finger shuld be used. This is not a traditional way to play it. I wonder what it's meant by 'professional' here.
holikarang 2 years ago
I had both Indian and Western teachers and they all explained things differently but equally professionally. Of course, if you want just a poor imitation, anyone can do that...
tutonline 3 years ago
also, you can use one or two but not three fingers, and she seems to use fingers randomly...please, first learn then teach!
tutonline 3 years ago
she's playing it wrong, the fingers have to be placed in parallel with strings and not like that!! I wonder how they decide some people can teach such things... and when she sings it sounds terrible..
tutonline 3 years ago
Honestly. For something this simple does it really matter? It sounds fine. Are you a guru with the Tambura? Are you honestly that much of an expert to critique her technique?
I think you could have chosen a kinder way to be critical of her methods.
Radjehuty 3 years ago
your comment says it all, Indian masters say it takes nearly a lifetime to be perfect in tuning a tanpura, it's not SIMPLE.
tutonline 3 years ago
And people here are called 'experts', I'm sorry it sounded rude, but I've been learning Indian classical music for ten years and even after two lessons anyone would know her technique is not correct. Sorry, but some people learn for a lifetime and then some beginner comes and claims to be an 'expert', even if it's a free lesson it should be honest...she clearly does not have a clue on how to use a tanpura.
tutonline 3 years ago 2
I am sorry I sounded quite harsh. It's just that I find it hard to believe that an artform as beautiful as this would be so rigid as to prevent ingenuity. Perhaps I am missing something? Do you have examples of a good Tambura player we can use as an example?
You may not think her technique is "correct" but wouldn't it also be feasible to simply say her technique is just different? Who knows where she got her lessons from?
Radjehuty 3 years ago
don't worry, I understand whatyou mean, but what puts me off here is that she is defined as 'expert' that's all, otherwise I'm ok if she wants to play it anyway she likes it! this is not 'how to play it' but 'how she plays it', the thing is that if you play it as she does you will get easily tired also, in concerts people have to play the tampura for at least two hours... I'll see if there is any good example to see and let you know!
tutonline 3 years ago
there are some reasons why the tanpura has to be played in a few specific position, it depends also on the size of the instrument.
tutonline 3 years ago
I see your point. This would not be the first time I see a pseudo-expert. I've been doing Origami almost all my life and I've seen origami videos done by people who may have been doing origami just recently and explaining things very crudely.
I am sorry I have misjudged you, I should do research on this instrument when I get the chance.
Thanks!
Radjehuty 3 years ago
don't worry, I also don't like random bad comments and anyone should be free to share here, but I don't like it either when someone is superficial about such a complex tradition as the Indian classical music.
tutonline 3 years ago
search for tambura (2) wesleyan, it shows the correct finger position.
holikarang 2 years ago
You have been learning Indian Classical Music for 10 years and you don't know how to RESPECTFULLY disagree with people??? so strange and funny. Music also does good "SANSKAR" on an artist learning it.
vinayjogdand 2 years ago
I'm sorry but this is how many people have been cheated by fake gurus -often asking for good money- about an art that DOES require respect. I might have sounded harsh, I'm not perfect, but this art takes ages and sometimes lifetimes, I'm so sad when I see it misinterpreted and treated as a children game...
holikarang 2 years ago
and I don't disagree, you are wrong, I'm totally offended. I'm one of those who struggle the whole year and save money and time to be able to practice and learn humbly before thinking of teaching. Teaching is a responsibility and this lady should have known, she's not just 'sharing' she's calling herself an 'expert'. This is cheating.
holikarang 2 years ago
YOU AREEEEEEEEEEE
daysweregolden 3 years ago
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you gave me a withdrawal wave, thanks a lot you hippie slut
daysweregolden 3 years ago
Man, you are full of hate, I feel sorry for you.
flaegin 3 years ago 2
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this is NOT tambura!!!!!!!!!!
don t deceive people telling about things you do not know
vladd001 3 years ago
Ocourse his is tanpura
madhumalati 3 years ago
There is a difference in 'tanpura' and 'tambura' or (tamburica)...they're based of the same idea but they sound diffent and they're played different. From what I know the 'tanpura' is famous in India and the 'tambura' or (tamburica) is an instrument from the Balkan area...especially used by Bosniaks and Croats.
ekserchina 3 years ago
ekserčina... pretpostavljam da si sa nasih balkanskih prostora cim znas o tome... =)
dujak00 3 years ago
Jesam kolega...iz BiH sam. Pozdrav
ekserchina 3 years ago
What kind of string do you use on the bridge?
wallace1977 3 years ago