"... the 14,000 horsepower combination of her four engines--more power than it takes to drive a locomotive or an ocean liner." 14,000 hp was certainly more powerful than any locomotive--even today it would beat two of the largest diesel freight locomotives; only a few electrics come close. But it wasn't anywhere near ocean liner standards. Big liners were beating those levels by the 1890s; the Queen Mary of the 1930s had 160,000 hp, and the S.S. United States of the 1950s had 248,000 hp.
You can buy the Boeing 377 Strato-Cruiser at A2A Simulations for Microsoft Flight Simulator X version, with an optional expansion pack too very worth having in you Simulator quite complicated to fly too you really have to read the 122 page flight manua, just like flying the real McCo Awsum Propliner
@RJfan One reason - imagine the amps it takes to turn over a 28 cylinder engine. That kind of battery would have been very heavy with 1940s technology and cut into freight, passenger, fuel, capacity.
@ketchyawl ; I never did understand ground power, to be honest. I know a bit about aviation, but I know I've still got a LOT to learn in order to achieve my ATP license.
@ConcordeCentral It was pretty aerodynamic for the speeds it flew at. Had to be for the ocean routes it was designed to fly. Of course aerodynamic calculations are very difficult, and they didn't have the benefit of the computers used to help us design today's aircraft.
grav-My mother, brothers and I were the first passengers down the emergency slide.Under the wing (it was raining buckets), we watched others coming down the slide. Down came a young girl, crying hysterically, her shorts bloodied. The story goes that a propellor entered the cabin, decapitated a man, his head falling on her lap. We didn't see this, however, there were broken dishes and suitcases flying everywhere and hitting passengers.
By the way, the plane was an awesome wat to travel.
When I was stationed at Wainwright AAF in Alaska in the 1980's , the BLM had 2 of these still in use as fire bombers. Got to fly in them a few times. Smelly and shakey was my main memory. I guess by then the airframes were just worn out.
Believe it or not. While watching this video I noticed that the name of the plane was the Clippen Golden Gate. In 1958 my family and I were on that very plane on a flight from San Francisco to Singapore with several stopovers along the way. While approaching Manilla and in a violent storm, the plane crashed landed off the side of the runway, demolishing the downstairs lounge.
@LexSp1 You had the privilege of being in the last 377 crash before it was retired from passenger service. Any memory of the prop blade flying through the cabin? It killed one passenger. No such excitement on my 377 flight as an infant.
@LexSp1 Interesting story. I was wondering if in fact it was the same plane (airlines sometimes swapped the same name among different planes), but the registration N1023V also matches, and that stays with a single aircraft.
The First truly Intercontinental aircraft ever produced! The older DC- models still had to make a stop-over for refueling prior to transoceanic flights. Oh how I miss the days when you still heard the run-up of those piston engines down the street at Boeing's Renton Plant!
A great and characterful airplane, but within a year of its first flight the British Viscount turbo prop was flying, and another year later turbojets were, and the era of giant piston prop-liners was coming to an end.
Well, perhaps you're right, on civilian airports. I was thinking of military flightlines, that I see much more of and where the jets and turboprops are fairly sensitive to stray flying objects.
The 377 was quite remarkable. I never got to fly in one but I saw any number of NW's at MDW and PDX back in the day. The supercharged engines, however, were a maintenance nightmare and were subject to having to be shut down in flight if oil ran low or spark plugs started missing. Still, they were a hit with passengers. NW was done with them after only twelve years or so.
Thanks for posting this series, all three parts are great and well worth the time and efort to view
so many people assume that how it is now is the way it always was, this is the airline travel i remember from my youth, things have changed, not always for the better
I agree. The commercial aviation world is worse off without Pan Am & TWA plying the skies. Even near the end after airline de-regulation, service was still far better with those two than even the best airline operating today. I never did get the pleasure of flying Pan Am having lived in St. Louis, but I flew TWA everywhere & it truly was a wonderful airline w/wonderful employees. Too bad Carl Icahn got his dirty hands on TWA & ran it into the ground.
@redslownight The props on 377s were unusually vulnerable to throwing their blades. Two 377s were lost probably because a prop threw a blade and the now unbalanced engine tore itself from the wing. The first went down in the Amazon in 1952, killing all aboard. The other was ditched off of Oregon in 1955; most of the people survived. After that the government issued an advisory to replace the hollow steel propeller blades with solid ones.
@redslownight One more 377 was lost between San Francisco and Honolulu in 1957 for reasons unknown; might have been blade failure, might have been something else. The only other 377 to go down in the Pacific had an engine failure, but not blade failure. As for a failed blade going through the cabin, there's no record of that in the 377, though it has definitely happened in other planes. Blade failure is a huge safety threat for propeller aircraft, so it is very closely guarded against.
@niselat I think I found the accident report for this case in Embry-Riddle's online safety archives: Northwest Flight 410, August 5, 1955. From the report (3rd page, top paragraph), the fuselage was indeed slashed open (fortunately, no one was injured), but not by a failed prop blade. After the plane overran the runway, it crashed through a chain-link fence which got tangled in the props, and the tangled *fence* slashed the fuselage. Still pretty hairy if you were there, though!
I have 42y and I feel nostalgia also about how simple easy and happy this men work , no terrorism, people well educated, and all personal very professional. How times change wow.
The Stratocruiser was a transport version of the B-29/B-50. If I recall properly, it first appeared as the military C-97, then they developed the civil version.
The lower deck, wings and tail were originally all B-29, but the tail was revised and enlarged, ending up more like the one on the B-50. The engine nacelles are also from the B-50.
I was hoping that Boeing would give the 787 a 'Strato' name too but alas this did not come to pass :-(
@kizitoutube almost the plane first flew in the late 30's and the military caught on to the idea of using her to bomb germany from the us mainland thus we get the B-29/50
This is a very beautiful plane... what massive engines!
dallatorretdu 4 months ago
Credits: Robert Downey. As in Jr?
niselat 6 months ago
@niselat i think Sr.
Stephie2007 3 months ago
this is awesome thanks for the upload.
christopherTsmith 6 months ago
That is one of the coolest and weirdest looking aircraft I've ever seen. I just think it looks phenomenal.
VodkadAn 6 months ago
"... the 14,000 horsepower combination of her four engines--more power than it takes to drive a locomotive or an ocean liner." 14,000 hp was certainly more powerful than any locomotive--even today it would beat two of the largest diesel freight locomotives; only a few electrics come close. But it wasn't anywhere near ocean liner standards. Big liners were beating those levels by the 1890s; the Queen Mary of the 1930s had 160,000 hp, and the S.S. United States of the 1950s had 248,000 hp.
colindhowell 7 months ago
You can buy the Boeing 377 Strato-Cruiser at A2A Simulations for Microsoft Flight Simulator X version, with an optional expansion pack too very worth having in you Simulator quite complicated to fly too you really have to read the 122 page flight manua, just like flying the real McCo Awsum Propliner
JetRanger0007 7 months ago
"The peoples of the world"?!
fs10inator 7 months ago
They should've built more
allenwong2 7 months ago
2:59 "The twin deck spaciousness designed for more than just elbow room..." Wow I wish they still designed planes with that in mind today!
compdude100 8 months ago
That must have been expensive to fly back then.
TheMaxx111 9 months ago
Awesome video thanks Mcdonnell
woodfern909 11 months ago
Luckily, Boeing realized about 1955 that WW ll was actually over...LOL
deetjay1 11 months ago
why would that plane need ground power? it's not a jet, it's a piston powered aircraft
RJfan 1 year ago
@RJfan Why would being piston engined negate the need for ground power?
ketchyawl 9 months ago
@RJfan One reason - imagine the amps it takes to turn over a 28 cylinder engine. That kind of battery would have been very heavy with 1940s technology and cut into freight, passenger, fuel, capacity.
ketchyawl 9 months ago
@ketchyawl ; I never did understand ground power, to be honest. I know a bit about aviation, but I know I've still got a LOT to learn in order to achieve my ATP license.
RJfan 9 months ago
The ugliest airliner until replaced by La Whale, the A380.
antimatterXXXIII 1 year ago
Thoes P&W Wasp Engines sound so goooood, why dont planes nowadays make a great sound? that said, The GE90-115B is quite a sound :D
Zlin0035 1 year ago
Goodness, did they not know about aerodynamics back then!
ConcordeCentral 1 year ago
@ConcordeCentral Huh? I don't understand what gives rise to that question.
ketchyawl 9 months ago
@ketchyawl It just looks so un aerodynamic with the nose and wings is all
ConcordeCentral 9 months ago
@ConcordeCentral It was pretty aerodynamic for the speeds it flew at. Had to be for the ocean routes it was designed to fly. Of course aerodynamic calculations are very difficult, and they didn't have the benefit of the computers used to help us design today's aircraft.
colindhowell 7 months ago
Are any of these aircraft still flying?
351460 1 year ago
@351460 no, due to safety fears, they all are kept in museum for people to watch.
TheHedgehogPilot 1 year ago
I flew on one of these, back in the day.
multicorncake 1 year ago
grav-My mother, brothers and I were the first passengers down the emergency slide.Under the wing (it was raining buckets), we watched others coming down the slide. Down came a young girl, crying hysterically, her shorts bloodied. The story goes that a propellor entered the cabin, decapitated a man, his head falling on her lap. We didn't see this, however, there were broken dishes and suitcases flying everywhere and hitting passengers.
By the way, the plane was an awesome wat to travel.
LexSp1 1 year ago
BOEING!!!!
P8NTBALL60 1 year ago
This thing doesn't seem to climb very fast, but it does look pretty glamorous.
AgentPepsi1 1 year ago
When I was stationed at Wainwright AAF in Alaska in the 1980's , the BLM had 2 of these still in use as fire bombers. Got to fly in them a few times. Smelly and shakey was my main memory. I guess by then the airframes were just worn out.
HuasoPodrido 1 year ago
It's amazing how times have changed so much. This video talks about how big the Boeing 377 was yet today, she's only the size of a 737!
phillyslasher 1 year ago
Believe it or not. While watching this video I noticed that the name of the plane was the Clippen Golden Gate. In 1958 my family and I were on that very plane on a flight from San Francisco to Singapore with several stopovers along the way. While approaching Manilla and in a violent storm, the plane crashed landed off the side of the runway, demolishing the downstairs lounge.
LexSp1 1 year ago
@LexSp1 You had the privilege of being in the last 377 crash before it was retired from passenger service. Any memory of the prop blade flying through the cabin? It killed one passenger. No such excitement on my 377 flight as an infant.
gcrav 1 year ago
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LexSp1 1 year ago
@LexSp1 Interesting story. I was wondering if in fact it was the same plane (airlines sometimes swapped the same name among different planes), but the registration N1023V also matches, and that stays with a single aircraft.
colindhowell 7 months ago
I love all that pre space age colour footage
Doomsday2060 2 years ago
The First truly Intercontinental aircraft ever produced! The older DC- models still had to make a stop-over for refueling prior to transoceanic flights. Oh how I miss the days when you still heard the run-up of those piston engines down the street at Boeing's Renton Plant!
irishimp2 2 years ago
A great and characterful airplane, but within a year of its first flight the British Viscount turbo prop was flying, and another year later turbojets were, and the era of giant piston prop-liners was coming to an end.
CaptBubble 2 years ago
American expertise at it's best. Now...everything on the airplane is outsourced to some creepy Third World country.
percino1 2 years ago
Why is the ground crew wearing headgear? Can't do that today.
azimuth361 2 years ago
yes u can....
DenisWasHere12 2 years ago
Well, perhaps you're right, on civilian airports. I was thinking of military flightlines, that I see much more of and where the jets and turboprops are fairly sensitive to stray flying objects.
azimuth361 2 years ago
even back then boeing planes where amazing and depandable
aviationcenter 2 years ago
The 377 was quite remarkable. I never got to fly in one but I saw any number of NW's at MDW and PDX back in the day. The supercharged engines, however, were a maintenance nightmare and were subject to having to be shut down in flight if oil ran low or spark plugs started missing. Still, they were a hit with passengers. NW was done with them after only twelve years or so.
redtag501 2 years ago
boeing ftw
gamepro325 2 years ago
Sometimes I think we need to go back to these fine aircraft.
lms264t 2 years ago 5
yeah..
9T6Q 2 years ago
that is one of my all time favorite planes
along with some old bombers like the b-36, xb-19 and xb-15
psychoclown420 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this series, all three parts are great and well worth the time and efort to view
so many people assume that how it is now is the way it always was, this is the airline travel i remember from my youth, things have changed, not always for the better
UncleDuke1001 2 years ago
I agree. The commercial aviation world is worse off without Pan Am & TWA plying the skies. Even near the end after airline de-regulation, service was still far better with those two than even the best airline operating today. I never did get the pleasure of flying Pan Am having lived in St. Louis, but I flew TWA everywhere & it truly was a wonderful airline w/wonderful employees. Too bad Carl Icahn got his dirty hands on TWA & ran it into the ground.
tchapman1977 2 years ago
*gulp* Erm...you mean....the props went threw the cabin? o.o
Cutting people....and falling out of the sky?
redslownight 2 years ago
@redslownight The props on 377s were unusually vulnerable to throwing their blades. Two 377s were lost probably because a prop threw a blade and the now unbalanced engine tore itself from the wing. The first went down in the Amazon in 1952, killing all aboard. The other was ditched off of Oregon in 1955; most of the people survived. After that the government issued an advisory to replace the hollow steel propeller blades with solid ones.
colindhowell 7 months ago
@redslownight One more 377 was lost between San Francisco and Honolulu in 1957 for reasons unknown; might have been blade failure, might have been something else. The only other 377 to go down in the Pacific had an engine failure, but not blade failure. As for a failed blade going through the cabin, there's no record of that in the 377, though it has definitely happened in other planes. Blade failure is a huge safety threat for propeller aircraft, so it is very closely guarded against.
colindhowell 7 months ago
@colindhowell It happened when a 377 overshot the runway at Midway
niselat 6 months ago
@niselat I think I found the accident report for this case in Embry-Riddle's online safety archives: Northwest Flight 410, August 5, 1955. From the report (3rd page, top paragraph), the fuselage was indeed slashed open (fortunately, no one was injured), but not by a failed prop blade. After the plane overran the runway, it crashed through a chain-link fence which got tangled in the props, and the tangled *fence* slashed the fuselage. Still pretty hairy if you were there, though!
colindhowell 6 months ago
@colindhowell My father went down in that plane. He loved to fly Stratocruisers.
indyme2 4 months ago
I have 42y and I feel nostalgia also about how simple easy and happy this men work , no terrorism, people well educated, and all personal very professional. How times change wow.
Thanks for this video.
pepito060666 2 years ago 2
Was this the plane in "The Crowded Sky?"
DEP717 2 years ago
DC-7 in "The Crowded Sky", :-)
Chris
mcdonnell220 2 years ago 2
Correction: DC-6B in "The Crowded Sky".
D'oh!!
mcdonnell220 2 years ago 4
Great nostalgia trip on my favorite plane!
clipper377 2 years ago
I read that FiFi, the worlds last flying B-29, is wearing an old pair of B-377 wings. They shared the same wings.
XB70Playboy 2 years ago 2
The Stratocruiser was a transport version of the B-29/B-50. If I recall properly, it first appeared as the military C-97, then they developed the civil version.
The lower deck, wings and tail were originally all B-29, but the tail was revised and enlarged, ending up more like the one on the B-50. The engine nacelles are also from the B-50.
I was hoping that Boeing would give the 787 a 'Strato' name too but alas this did not come to pass :-(
kizitoutube 2 years ago
@kizitoutube almost the plane first flew in the late 30's and the military caught on to the idea of using her to bomb germany from the us mainland thus we get the B-29/50
ywe3 1 year ago