Pffh, a sound of a rotary is way more epic than dubstep. <- And I like certain dubstep pieces so not cus im a hater. It's just way beyond that. Specially given how mainstream and easy to make most dubstep is.. A rotary is.. Like a rotary. Now that's one kick ass comparison..
@cobrachoppergirl you run it this way on the dyno or for short distances. There are covers for the ports to run on the road. but from what i can tell this is a track car.
@cobrachoppergirl to suck the rat in means that you revv the ever loving shit out of it right as you are starting it. which could be no better for it than sucking a bug into it occasionally
Hyperdrachen, yes without filters any objects that go in like rocks, bees, or leafs will destroy the engine, yes filters should be used, but this 20b is non turbo, those are ITB's, which require removal of the turbo because air isnt forced in, it is given a free flow, which ITB's are they and what exhaust manifold was used
@Warblade118 You've obviously never been for a ride in one then! 500HP NA 2L Rotary, yep you'd better believe it! Do a little research on it, check some more vids etc...
My best mate & my cousin both have PP (peripheral port) 13B's one 55mm IDA, the other throttle body injected, one makes 190rwkw, the other 220rwkw and thats from a 1.3L N/A! Just to further prove the potential of a rotary NA, the 787B le-mans car made about 800HP (with a restrictor) and that was an NA 2.6L quad rotor! :)
@wheyez (I was talking about THIS car,the only thing I see and hear in THIS video is intake pulsations, but thats not important now)
I‘ve been in a few rotary powered cars. Not impressed. But I’ve also been in plenty of Big Block powered cars, so I’m a little hard to impress. “500HP from 2L rotary.” Tell me something, how is a rotary engine’s displacement determinate relative to a 4 stroke piston engine? I guarantee you, for the purpose of comparing HP/L, the relationship is not what you think.
@Warblade118 agreed, the vid of THIS car is kinda lame, could have been awesome if he give it some!
However i love rotaries, the sound, the revs, the power delivery...... each to his own i guess!
As for the displacement, the actual displacement on each rotor is 654cc (13B, 13G, 20B, 26B). But, according to FIA rules, the technical displacement is 1.8 times greater! (so still pretty impressive)
@wheyez To be very clear, I respect the fact that you like rotary engines. However, what I do get tired of is people mischaracterizing the abilities of the engine. (I’m not saying that’s what your doing.) I do feel that rotary has gotten an underserved reputation for tiny displacement and huge output. And here is were we may disagree. This is how I see the relationship between rotary and piston engines:
I’ll use the 1.3L 2 rotor as an example .65L + .65L. For every rotation of the e-shaft, there are 2 power impulse totaling 1.3L. If I were to compare this to a 2.6L 4cly, I would get the same, 2 impulse/rev, .65L each. A 4 stroke only uses half its displacement/revolution to actually produce power. If you compare the output of a 1.3L rotary, to a 2.6L 4cly, you’d find them about the same. This is why I’m unimpressed with the output of rotary.
@wheyez You surprise me. I thought you being such a rotary buff you’d be beyond that basic misconception. The e-shaft turns 3 times to the rotor’s 1. So, on a 1 rotor engine, for every rotation of the e-shaft, you get one 1 power impulse (stroke is the wrong word, but that’s irrelevant) (and 1 int and 1 exh event) on a 2 rotor engine you get 2 impulses and so on.
@wheyez Also, I’m sorry, but your wrong about the total displacement of all three faces/rotor being .65L. it’s the displacement of each individual rotor chamber. If what you say is true, each rotor chamber would displace only .21L. That’s smaller than a average sized lawnmower engine. The external dimensions of a rotary engine are far to large to displace such a tiny volume.
@wheyez If you don’t believe me about the displacement or 3:1 thing, check out: “watch?v=OuId4nuxXaM&feature=related” titled “Rotary Engine Rotational Demonstration” you can also go to my page, its in my favorite’s list. Here he explains the 3:1 relationship, and you can also see the displacement of 1 rotor face is much closer to .65L. Hope that helps!
@Warblade118 Yeah your right about the 3 revolutions, not sure why i thought tw, and had the ratio backwards, just went and looked at all my rotor stuff and yeah its 3:1. strokes impulses meh same thing...
Im actually a Nissan man myself, but really like rotors!
All engines are aspirated. N/A doesn't mean "NOT Aspirated", it means "NATURALLY Aspirated", meaning no forced induction. Not sure why everyone is saying N/A vs Aspirated. I'm sure you mean N/A vs turbo.
good point but cars like that dont drive on dusty roads or kept in places infested with rats! its purely for show or an occasional drive. yes ig u remove the filter of ur daily driven car it would cause damage to ur engine.
A naturally-aspirated engine or normally-aspirated engine (or "N/A" - aspiration meaning breathing) refers to an internal combustion engine (normally petrol or diesel powered) that is neither turbocharged nor supercharged.
N/A means natuarly aspirated thats when theres no forced induction and when you have say a turbo its called aspirated uhh durrrr so might wanna freshin up on ur stuff there champ
k i got a 13BT 210km/s on it 5speed 2nd gen PULLS GREAT NEVER A REBUILD! you just have to know how to take care these motors complete stock!! daily driven accept winters amazing car!!
my car had 186k miles on it and an asshole didn't look after it... overheated it and the coolant seals went out... if they had just filled up the damn reservoir it woulda been fine... thing is... it still ran perfectly fine... these engines never die... unfortunately it poured co2 into my radiator so the buzzer(warning you that you're low on coolant) wouldn't stop goin off... even when it's completely full..
My '85 13B just hit 276K and is still pulling strong. After I pulled the engine and replaced the entire fuel and air intake system, it's actually running better than it did 5 years ago and is even getting better fuel economy than it used to!
your a f*&*& idiot if you think that this car is rice. rice is someone who put huge wings unpainted body kits wrighting all over there car this is a very clean RX7 NO RICE added! theres a diff between rice and A TUNER!!
Pffh, a sound of a rotary is way more epic than dubstep. <- And I like certain dubstep pieces so not cus im a hater. It's just way beyond that. Specially given how mainstream and easy to make most dubstep is.. A rotary is.. Like a rotary. Now that's one kick ass comparison..
skvakagud 1 month ago
This is the wet dream I have for my 89 S5 FC....
toplessrider91 3 months ago
FC with a 20B peripheral port AND pink floyd. pretty dope vid dude.
Ilovesa22c 5 months ago
I cant wait til my 20b is done
55bobito 7 months ago
@cobrachoppergirl its not a daily drive car , so the air filter does not matter.
Mr671yigo 8 months ago
if the sound of a rotor engine could be labelled a music genre, it would be dubstep...
Projekt07 8 months ago 16
@Projekt07 wow thats the best comment ive ever seen
trexeater101 2 months ago
Thats a brutal fucking idle!!
11alexx22 9 months ago 5
@SlidewayzzS13 looks like a 3 rotor setup. ...whoever thought there was a turbo is retarded. the manifold alone tells you that lol
andrew1501 9 months ago 4
@cobrachoppergirl you run it this way on the dyno or for short distances. There are covers for the ports to run on the road. but from what i can tell this is a track car.
andrew1501 9 months ago
@cobrachoppergirl do you think it would drive behind a car?or on a dusty road??this is a drag car
234167 10 months ago 5
beautiful.
X3lfl3X 11 months ago
is this bridge ported?
JustLuxurious 1 year ago
@JustLuxurious no, its peripheral port.
yurmomsbuddy 10 months ago
i don't know but the idle sorta sounds like the bass of a hardstyle song...
iFlex69 1 year ago
@SlidewayzzS13 Usually you would put a filter over an ITB system, shame on this person for not ahah.
musclekid13 1 year ago
i still cant believe dudes would much rather stick a big ol v8 in an rx7
i prefer a 20b
guevodeplomo 1 year ago
@cobrachoppergirl its in a garage.......... obviosly put filters in before driving down a dusty leaf bug filled rat run.
mattheep12 1 year ago 2
@cobrachoppergirl to suck the rat in means that you revv the ever loving shit out of it right as you are starting it. which could be no better for it than sucking a bug into it occasionally
az112a 1 year ago
@cobrachoppergirl lmao I actually pictured the stupid rat getting sucked in! xD
well, usually, any car that has ITBs is an all motor race car. Not to many people put ITBs on street cars. Hope this helps
Pigioto1 1 year ago
wtf real slow take off lol
Noisebomb55 1 year ago
I love this n/a beast!
iamxeddiex 1 year ago
nice, pink floyd :D
donaircooleone 1 year ago
JUST PLANT IT!
slicktrx 1 year ago
Hyperdrachen, yes without filters any objects that go in like rocks, bees, or leafs will destroy the engine, yes filters should be used, but this 20b is non turbo, those are ITB's, which require removal of the turbo because air isnt forced in, it is given a free flow, which ITB's are they and what exhaust manifold was used
Brendon00000 1 year ago
er hey something I don't understand on these setups? Isnt it a problem that the air is unfiltered?
hyperdrachen 1 year ago
Sounds weird. Not really in a good way…
A N/A rotary, don’t they make like 150HP at the most and it takes crazy rpm?
Warblade118 1 year ago
@Warblade118 Sounds awesome! (possibly an aquired taste)
That wound be making close to 300rwkw (~500hp)!
Slide throttle injected 20B PP, thats a pretty serious bit gear, wish they had given it a decent rev though!
wheyez 1 year ago
@wheyez Uh…okay, 500HP NA? Believe it when I see it. All I see here is a rotary with ITB. Kinda underwhelming…
Warblade118 1 year ago
@Warblade118 You've obviously never been for a ride in one then! 500HP NA 2L Rotary, yep you'd better believe it! Do a little research on it, check some more vids etc...
My best mate & my cousin both have PP (peripheral port) 13B's one 55mm IDA, the other throttle body injected, one makes 190rwkw, the other 220rwkw and thats from a 1.3L N/A! Just to further prove the potential of a rotary NA, the 787B le-mans car made about 800HP (with a restrictor) and that was an NA 2.6L quad rotor! :)
wheyez 1 year ago
@wheyez (I was talking about THIS car,the only thing I see and hear in THIS video is intake pulsations, but thats not important now)
I‘ve been in a few rotary powered cars. Not impressed. But I’ve also been in plenty of Big Block powered cars, so I’m a little hard to impress. “500HP from 2L rotary.” Tell me something, how is a rotary engine’s displacement determinate relative to a 4 stroke piston engine? I guarantee you, for the purpose of comparing HP/L, the relationship is not what you think.
Warblade118 1 year ago
@Warblade118 agreed, the vid of THIS car is kinda lame, could have been awesome if he give it some!
However i love rotaries, the sound, the revs, the power delivery...... each to his own i guess!
As for the displacement, the actual displacement on each rotor is 654cc (13B, 13G, 20B, 26B). But, according to FIA rules, the technical displacement is 1.8 times greater! (so still pretty impressive)
wheyez 1 year ago
@wheyez To be very clear, I respect the fact that you like rotary engines. However, what I do get tired of is people mischaracterizing the abilities of the engine. (I’m not saying that’s what your doing.) I do feel that rotary has gotten an underserved reputation for tiny displacement and huge output. And here is were we may disagree. This is how I see the relationship between rotary and piston engines:
Warblade118 1 year ago
@wheyez Consider this:
I’ll use the 1.3L 2 rotor as an example .65L + .65L. For every rotation of the e-shaft, there are 2 power impulse totaling 1.3L. If I were to compare this to a 2.6L 4cly, I would get the same, 2 impulse/rev, .65L each. A 4 stroke only uses half its displacement/revolution to actually produce power. If you compare the output of a 1.3L rotary, to a 2.6L 4cly, you’d find them about the same. This is why I’m unimpressed with the output of rotary.
Warblade118 1 year ago
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wheyez 1 year ago
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wheyez 1 year ago
@wheyez You surprise me. I thought you being such a rotary buff you’d be beyond that basic misconception. The e-shaft turns 3 times to the rotor’s 1. So, on a 1 rotor engine, for every rotation of the e-shaft, you get one 1 power impulse (stroke is the wrong word, but that’s irrelevant) (and 1 int and 1 exh event) on a 2 rotor engine you get 2 impulses and so on.
Warblade118 1 year ago
@wheyez Also, I’m sorry, but your wrong about the total displacement of all three faces/rotor being .65L. it’s the displacement of each individual rotor chamber. If what you say is true, each rotor chamber would displace only .21L. That’s smaller than a average sized lawnmower engine. The external dimensions of a rotary engine are far to large to displace such a tiny volume.
Warblade118 1 year ago
@wheyez If you don’t believe me about the displacement or 3:1 thing, check out: “watch?v=OuId4nuxXaM&feature=related” titled “Rotary Engine Rotational Demonstration” you can also go to my page, its in my favorite’s list. Here he explains the 3:1 relationship, and you can also see the displacement of 1 rotor face is much closer to .65L. Hope that helps!
Warblade118 1 year ago
@Warblade118 Yeah your right about the 3 revolutions, not sure why i thought tw, and had the ratio backwards, just went and looked at all my rotor stuff and yeah its 3:1. strokes impulses meh same thing...
Im actually a Nissan man myself, but really like rotors!
wheyez 1 year ago
yea thats N/A
midnightslyr22 1 year ago
like to see a mustang idle like that.
sk8tildeath91 1 year ago
@cobrachoppergirl in the vid that is a drag car proboly not used for the street, and if it was used for the street, they put on air filters.
maluchman1 1 year ago
the idle is siiiiiiiiiiiiick
irvmug 1 year ago
All engines are aspirated. N/A doesn't mean "NOT Aspirated", it means "NATURALLY Aspirated", meaning no forced induction. Not sure why everyone is saying N/A vs Aspirated. I'm sure you mean N/A vs turbo.
JefFreezePerformance 1 year ago 4
@cobrachoppergirl I'd say they'd run socks on them
FUGGINGMAD 1 year ago
N/A!
iamxeddiex 1 year ago
good point but cars like that dont drive on dusty roads or kept in places infested with rats! its purely for show or an occasional drive. yes ig u remove the filter of ur daily driven car it would cause damage to ur engine.
Gleban09 1 year ago
Hmm turbo not
TheTwisty92 1 year ago
omg are you dumb.
A naturally-aspirated engine or normally-aspirated engine (or "N/A" - aspiration meaning breathing) refers to an internal combustion engine (normally petrol or diesel powered) that is neither turbocharged nor supercharged.
SUPRAHOLIC101 2 years ago
if you knew anything about n/a and aspirated they sound way diffrent
SUPRAHOLIC101 2 years ago
N/A means natuarly aspirated thats when theres no forced induction and when you have say a turbo its called aspirated uhh durrrr so might wanna freshin up on ur stuff there champ
SUPRAHOLIC101 2 years ago
every engine is "aspirated," not only boosted ones.
"uhh durrrr so might wanna freshin up on ur stuff there champ"
elmnt4lfe127 2 years ago
thats what i also thought first.
but u have to remember that this is a rotary.
maybe the turbo is placed somewhere behind that open intake plenum...im just not familiar enough with rotary engines!
081588101 2 years ago
@081588101 There's no way for the boost to get in to the throttles without piping lol
SlidewayzzS13 2 years ago 3
N/A Rotorys sounds way nicer in my opinion than aspirated
SUPRAHOLIC101 2 years ago
Do you know what N/A stands for? If you do, you'd realize that what you just said makes no sense.
Racr4Lyfe 2 years ago
Mereces 1 Panda no eres merecedor de ese coche!!!!!
TrojanSlug 2 years ago
haha ya
mxmang 2 years ago
There is nothing like the idle of a hot rotary or a 935 turbo
supersevenn 2 years ago 2
HP?
WaZa992 2 years ago
Thats all motor.
medoseedo11 2 years ago
k i got a 13BT 210km/s on it 5speed 2nd gen PULLS GREAT NEVER A REBUILD! you just have to know how to take care these motors complete stock!! daily driven accept winters amazing car!!
ae86T450HHP 2 years ago
99% of the carS are PiSton Ok 1% is RoTaRy POWER Look like 200% Le Mans 91 after that they in streesssss
sedaso8 2 years ago
NICE, but buddy, why didn't you rev the rpms for us? i mean after all your video taping it, and you took the time to throw it up on the internetz. =/
liveguns 2 years ago
Too many people think Rotaries need rebuilt every 5 minutes, which simply isnt the case, A well built well maintainted rotary will last just fine.
L3g4cyTT 2 years ago 3
thats a loud little bugger my mom made me get off computer because she thought someone was in the driveway
woodyate 2 years ago 2
damn that sounds vicious the hell with a v8 lol j/p i still like this engine too bad the seals go bad in them thus dont last long sighs
Z32spdstr 2 years ago
A well made rotary won't go bad any sooner than a piston engine.
LordJesseD 2 years ago 18
i always thought they only last about 80,000 to 100,000 if ur lucky and take care of it well
Z32spdstr 2 years ago
I did say "well made," not backyard bodge-job, like a lot of today's "performance" cars.
Rotaries are difficult buggers. Well built, they're great, otherwise, they're a nightmare.
LordJesseD 2 years ago
they last much longer than that.
betekvs 2 years ago
my car had 186k miles on it and an asshole didn't look after it... overheated it and the coolant seals went out... if they had just filled up the damn reservoir it woulda been fine... thing is... it still ran perfectly fine... these engines never die... unfortunately it poured co2 into my radiator so the buzzer(warning you that you're low on coolant) wouldn't stop goin off... even when it's completely full..
GeRmAnIaNhAcKeR 2 years ago
My '85 13B just hit 276K and is still pulling strong. After I pulled the engine and replaced the entire fuel and air intake system, it's actually running better than it did 5 years ago and is even getting better fuel economy than it used to!
trianglepower 2 years ago
sweet motor. i would love to have one for my FB. although i dont really care for that body kit.
hotmazda14 2 years ago
car's got a heart man... luvin it
KennyKenv 2 years ago
it is turbo in the other vidds, must of been put on after
rx7vtec 2 years ago
this isnt turbo, silly fool who posted this. its soooo obvious. fukn awesome though
abominableaussieman 2 years ago
retard not turboed
PAC0TAC0 3 years ago
sorry bro, but thats what they call a naturally aspirated
bosgreene36m3 3 years ago 2
it sound nice
dint500 3 years ago
man i wanted to see some rubber flyin off the back
swss12 3 years ago
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piece of shit!
KAZANTIPER2007 3 years ago
HOw is this turbo If it has ITBS?????
jtlovett27 3 years ago
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Rice...
Jak3Mac 3 years ago
Sorry dumb shit this is no where near rice!! this is what real tuners can do.
darkblaze176 3 years ago 14
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Im sorry you cant tell rice from JDM....
Jak3Mac 3 years ago
the guys right, your wrong
darkeyce02 3 years ago 2
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Uber rice...
Jak3Mac 3 years ago
your a f*&*& idiot if you think that this car is rice. rice is someone who put huge wings unpainted body kits wrighting all over there car this is a very clean RX7 NO RICE added! theres a diff between rice and A TUNER!!
darkblaze176 3 years ago 2
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... rice...
Jak3Mac 3 years ago
I just came.
SpideyFan6010 3 years ago
me 2
Audi2000t 3 years ago
haha for real
my ears are in extacy
ramoneskickass 3 years ago
do u no that ur actually living MY fantasy?
justcallmebad 3 years ago
is that the RB sliding plate throttle design ?
drantman 3 years ago
awesome 5*
TotalHalfSchizofren 3 years ago