950+ awhp GT42R DSM running low 9's

[nealongreene15]

Jesus... One hell of a 1g. 

[raptorboy1014131]

i dont get why people hold it against the rev limiter all the way down the tree it should only take 1 maybe 2 seconds to spool the turbo(s) so there's no point in it



[juechter]

@raptorboy1014131 if there was no point then people wouldn't do it. and im pretty sure its not a rev limiter, i think its called something like "2 step" or"launch control" but im not sure. this allows the car to stay at a certain RPM while holding down the pedal and not having to feather it to keep it there, also helps your turbo stay at full boost while launching.

[thomcasey2005]

@juechter Correct, it is a 2-Step and/or launch control. Also, I am sure he is applying NLTS (No lift to shift). Floor it, clutch and shift. The 2-step is to help the car build boost so they can launch with some extra power Sometimes Nitrous is used during the launch process to spool the turbo for a better launch.

@raptorboy1014131 It takes more than a couple seconds to get the boost to build. This is running a big turbo, not a little t-25 or VW turbo.

[krayziebonejr]

This talon runs high 7's now itz not a 9 sec car anymore

[bigguedo]

950hp to run low 9's. My boys 3,000lbs 95camaro runs runs 9.3's 1/4mi and dynos just over 650hp on the spray. I would of thought a 950hp car would of been faster.

[Speedcult77]

@bigguedo Fully loaded with driver most 1G's tip the scales around 2500-2700lbs. Do you know how much horsepower it takes to shave even .5 seconds? I doubt at that power and weight, rwd, he's breaking 10's I'd say more like low to mid 10's for that camaro... if you have a video of it in the 1/4, I'll gladly eat my words. I ran very low 12's, high 11's at 404awhp/427awtq (daily driver, full interior, my fat ass). To break into singles is pretty tough and takes a LOT of tuning and horsepower.

[nealongreene15]

@Speedcult77 TALONS 4G63 POWER FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even a stock and slightly tuned 1g could get into high 12's-13's :D

[Speedcult77]

@bigguedo Oh and a little PS here, check out Shep's DSM, over 1k to the wheels and in high 7's. Mine would lay 6 foot awd scratches under hard launch and walks the rear. Must be hard to hold onto 1,000 ponies even in an awd. Point is 950 seems like a lot (and it is), but to break past 9's takes a lot.

[barrycha916]

Wooooooooooow !!

[01ttstang]

damn that thing RIPS!!!

[diliegr0]

thats a masterpiece :D

[flamingaxe791]

That DSM can pass as a sleeper.

[TheMrhoneycutt]

EVIL EAGLE!!!

[alexbrave2]

yeah im about to skip the hx40 and go for the gt42r

[phantomplanet]

damn it wanted to hear the crowd jaws drop :(

[uniotoalumni]

my geo metro is faster than that.......haha jk sick car

[garputo2]

Hey nice run.. Where did this guy get the car tuned at. I was told English is the best in the area for dsm v3 show up to the dtpdragwars on saturday

[hpiownzilla01]

@garputo2 his name is jake montgomery he tunes his own cars, he doesnt own the talon anymore but he does had a low 10 high 9 second evo Daily driven fully interior jake is one of my friends on IMS( idahomotorsports)

[zach197192]

cool will u race my friend if so email me at aanello4485@charter.net

[02honda4eva]

dam this shit is fukkin nasty and its a 1g wow very impressive and by the way it look it looks like it could possibly b a dd or sumthin to have fun with on the weekend or late night i hope this car is street legal lol i hope to get my lil del sol like this 1 day but not that much hp i wuld like to have bout 400 or 450 on my single cam but have ti built right and have it weigh like 1900 lbs that wuld b a monster :) after i drop like 10k mayb lolzzz

[MSN91091]

whats that thing on the front bumper is it exhaust.

[suprbird]

i hate 4 bangers but holy shit....thats nuts

[cyoan]

bad ass talon

[imacowtipper1984]

DSM motors suck first off....run that crap off some nitromethane and see how fast that supposidly indestructible block gives out. garbage....(remove gas cap and replace vehicle)

[4g63luver]

@imacowtipper1984 dude.....no block from the factory is gonna handle nitro. and why do you watch all the dsm vids on here if you don't like'em ?

[imacowtipper1984]

@4g63luver yea it will handle nitro, depends how far down the track it might go before exploding. and i really don't watch dsm motor vids i was just messing around looking at vids like everyone does.

[4g63luver]

@imacowtipper1984 true true .but i've seen nitro blow up even at idle RPM before. that shit is supper unstable.

personaly meth is the way to go with a turbo 4 banger.

it burns very cool and makes great power.

[streetrat18201]

that is my buddy jake montgomery's talon. His best trap so far was a 8.36. he doesnt race it anymore cause he is on an Evo build now.

[elqimporta]

you think he can work no my car just does builds for himself? i just live an hour away from kent.

[camvvti]

why not ask him....

[baseballstarjc12]

biggggass turbo on that bitch hah once it spooled up in second it was game over

[97corollaturbo]

holy ol' hell batman i think i saw a fast dsm, lol, and as for anybody saying dsm's are unreliable.....WRONG!!!!!!! they are a care that needs to be takin care of, people just hop in a 15 year old car toss 7000$ at it make it hav 450 whp and hope it will stand up to it, well it won, you need to take care of the little things first, that where there, "unreliable" rep came from and i wish it would go away cause its NOT TRUE

[ricetry97]

wow...to bad there not so reliable...but wow....sooo nice ...

[hellzone100]

actually.... your so living in another world..

[ricetry97]

im just sayin'...there are alot of dsm engines for sale.....and even though i think they are great...they break....simple as that....not to be all bad...honda break...toyota's break...it's all about setup....and parts...i respect the dsm...i love the 96-99 gsx/gst....that was a great car...and it looks sick still...

[kingofforza]

its not about who manufactured the engine its about weather or not it was broken in correctly when it was new and how good it was taken care of by its owner.

[KILLERBJDMEF8]

i love hondas i have one myself but i respect DSM's thay are great cars and make alot of FREAKING POWER!!!

[chabbalato]

950whp and only 159mph? something doesnt add up

[yajstylez]

maybe because it's simply awd....

[IspooledurMom]

all traction boy

[BoredDSM]

AWD aren't meant for trap speeds. There quick off the line and thats all that matters in the 1/4. If you look at all the dsm's that run the mile or the 1/2 mile there all gst's because of more top end.

[hellzone100]

thats why i have a RWD Conquest... OLD School DSM FTMFW!!

[DSMDriver69]

yea but the conquest/starion is hard to find parts for

[hellzone100]

kinda true but not entirely !

but who says u have to use the stock engine ?

[kingofforza]

top end has nothing to do with the drive type  its all the transmission.

[buddah463]

sr20 is aluminum block and cant handle the horsepower that a 4g63 block can without major modifications to the block

[Colt90Tsi]

sr20det stock is good for 400hp, its aluminum!

[braceyoself777]

Who won the engine builders challenge? The SR20? Um, no......the 4g63 won. 4g63 FTW.

[Colt90Tsi]

Wow, your an idiot. Rileys03rex was saying that the sr block can support 700hp, which it cannot. Did I say anything about the SR winning the builders challange? Ummm no..

[rileys03rex]

the most i think u can build out of an sr20det is 750whp so yeah it could hold more power than the sr

[94jettameowpsst]

Hybridynamics/ PRL racing's 240 with a 4294 and sr20 revs out to 10 and is over 850whp, their outlaw car has a gt55 and revs well over 11k and runs 7s

do the math >.>

[jed344]

could be wrong but sounded like it spun in 1st so why make it taller gear? and to me on a low 9sec car i dought i would be giving him advice seems to me he knows enofe on how to build a fast as shit car already just my 2 cents

[blitzcarn]

hahaha agreed

[TKDJimi]

needs a taller 1st gear.

[rodgazinya]

Im sure he know's what he need better than you do considering that he owns and built his own car and it now runs mid 8's

Whats your Talon run?

[abacacus]

to be fair a taller first gear could have been a help.

[helloimsonik]

Yeah rodgazinya stop being a fag k thx.

[chabbalato]

wow why get sand in your vagina, what he said makes perfect sense... he doesnt need to own the car to know that it could benefit from taller gearing

[TSIMonster]

DSMs do have a short first gear.

[hellzone100]

indeed

[tarmacblack1]

@TKDJimi Don't worry he got a dogbox with a taller 1st and ran 8.6@165...thanks for playin tho.

[uptimeuptime]

@TKDJimi I have to taller 1st gear but it's hard to tell if he has one since his car has about twice as much power as mine.

[mvpdemi]

is this engine better then an SR20 im just askin im gona get an Eclipse or 240sx dont know which to go

[osoqiktsi]

get the dsm, you will not be disappointed. actually, you might be, we can get them to run 7s, we just cant get them to be reliable for more than six months at a time. lol

[EightYourVtec]

YOU can't get them to be reliable. Keep hacking whats left of the DSM's up. Soon there will be no nice ones left.

[FeelTehBa55]

Phuck me.. that's bad assed.

[marc96accord]

needs to be auto

[ninesecdsm]

We will be there in Seattle again next weekend with the talon that you see in this video. As most know we have broke into the 8sec barrier this season with an 8.83 @164mph. Hope to better that next weekend in Seattle at BOTI.

[9sec4G63TAWD]

gave me goose bump my cars been out for a while

[99Eclipse4WD]

I love the sound that a nice ass talon

[7thprophecy]

i <3 MSD =)

[jsportz610]

is that evileagle?

[BostonMotorsports]

Jake Montgomery All day with shepherd

[EvanFilms]

amazing dsm i need to head down to pacific race ways sometime

[DownShiftPerformance]

i like how that rev sounds!! he has a nice setup

[indianmaluji]

holly shit

[yupinmywhyte]

this guy is commited i went to his house once and instead of food in his kitchen he had tonz of dsm parts all over the place haha and he ran an 8 this year want to see the run type in jake montgomery

[D1stort]

Is this the same guy who cracked his block in the finals?

[rodgazinya]

I dont think so..Hes running a 8.86 @ 163mph so far this year

[dethpig420]

@rodgazinya Please can you get some video footage of that!!! I fucking love it man. Such a bad ass ride. fuck.

[D1stort]

I think it was last season, he said he was coming back with a total rebuild. Meh, they're both still damn fast.

[hks20psi]

wicked dsm!!

[Avenger987]

nice car bro dsm for life

[rodgazinya]

Its Jakes car..

[Avenger987]

then it was ment to jake :)

[ubuibbil]

ok there was no lag whatsoever!!!!!

[yajstylez]

bich.. let's trade cars! lol.. nice ass car+mods...

4g63 FTMFW!

[ubuibbil]

Calm down guys i wasnt trying to be an ass when i made the lag comment at all. I was just pointing something out. It was a phenomenal run without a doubt. And any well built DSM like this one deserves all the credit for a 9 sec. pass. Its definitely an awesome car!

[pwnedbyakid]

there wasnt much lag there, i dunno if you belong around cars.

[ubuibbil]

ur right!

[brandt208]

who cares about the lag he still ran a low 9!

[kingdomboost]

Sorry, don't mean to be a jerk, but really.

Love this vid. Great shots, great sound

[rodgazinya]

Its all good..I liked your comment..I have the same attitude towards people like that..

[BlackBullet7]

Wow, 1st and 2nd gear were done instantly.

[kingdomboost]

Guys talking lag. Shut up. Please. Let's see your 9 second car.

Right, it's what I thought. Give us a break.

[ubuibbil]

seemed like there was some lag in 2nd gear?

[ninesecdsm]

there was a bit of lag there due to the so much tire spin through 1st gear, when I launched the car it went to the rev limiter right away and the car speed just wasn't up to the tire speed when I made the 1-2 shift, hence why it fell on it's face going to 2nd gear.

[ubuibbil]

Thank you for the explanation. Again, i was not trying to be an ass when i made the comment...i was simply trying to get an answer. Ive watched this video about 30 times already and this is one bad ass DSM. Wish you all the best with that car. Makes me miss my 97 TSI with the 20G setup. Although 330WHP is not even close to your 900hp setup! Keep the awesome videos coming!

[ubuibbil]

its shep !

[rodgazinya]

No its not, its Jake...

[4g63lag]

it is jake, sheps car has the flip up lights. this car is awsome I cant wait to see it in person this season.

[ubuibbil]

oh ok my bad his car does look like shep's car. Either way they are both badass!

[Jewcrazy092]

"HOLY SHIT" is right lol such a fast car!

[Westview007]

u can hear its a bit laggy...would be an 8 sec car with a bit of nitrous

[iziegsx]

damn and i just want 600whp :(

[jonessoda1701395]

he is from boise idaho, I work at firebird raceway. and yes he is about 950hp all wheel drive. The guy who drives it is a pretty cool guy too.

[anytyme302]

where is this guy from?

[rodgazinya]

Idaho

[shadowdreamzk20]

i dont think jakes car is 950+awhp. or is it?

[rodgazinya]

When I talked to him at BOTI I believe he said he was running high 900's.. Somwhere in the 980whp range..Either way bad ass car..

[eeeen321]

yea, he said its well over 900awhp

[shadowdreamzk20]

ohh haha my bad. should see 8s easily this season!

[rodgazinya]

That would be so sick..I hope he comes back to Pacific Raceways so i can get more video of him and hopefully see him in the 8's..Its kinda a drive from Idaho to Kent, Wa but maybe..

[fast90eclipse]

dude could some one meet me at crispy cremes and i could follow to ur guy's meet on saturday.being i dont know were in auburn and what excite to take to ur top foods meet.

[rodgazinya]

I wont be going tomorrow however i will be going next weekend..most of the time they meet up at krispy kremes around 6-630 because the meet is at 7 in auburn

[fast90eclipse]

do any one one here go to the local meets for dsm's ??? by chance

[rodgazinya]

when you say local are you talking seattle/tacoma local? if you are we have a subaru/evo/dsm meet every saturday at 7pm at the Top foods in Auburn..

[eeeen321]

i wish i knew.....4g63 owns

[eeeen321]

and i think shepherd's does a 7.7@198....crazy fast!!!!!! he has WAY more power then this car and its full gut, but still street legal...

[eeeen321]

i was talking to some bald guy in a fire suit that said he was the driver/owner that said the car had run high 8's....and was going for 8's that day as well...and my bad on the overguess'd boost and spray.... either way, super sick dsm...

[ninesecdsm]

That guy you talked to was me, Jake Montgomery is my name. I never said it went 8's, that we were trying to break into the 8's.

[eeeen321]

oh, then my mistake, my bad, i heard wrong.....so its a 100shot of prespray and around 40psi???? just under 1000awhp???? is that info correct?? i remember the car looked so damn good, i have a few videos on my phone, i still watch em randomly cause its so sick

[dtpdsm11]

Was this at BOTI? I was there, I got the same video from a higher view but i haven't uploaded yet

[ninesecdsm]

Yes it was at BOTI in seattle, I would love to see more footage if you got it.

[eeeen321]

they got a video of it breaking an axle, it was him vs. team english's 1000+ awhp evo8...it would have been a killer race if the talon didnt snap the axle. but damn sure the talon would have pulled the evo....

[rodgazinya]

I thought he broke his center diff not the axle?

[4g63tgsx]

John Shepherd does faster runs i thik 6 or 7 with out nos and I think he has less HP must be the Tranny that helps

[ninesecdsm]

John Shepherd's talon has well over 1000whp, more closer to 1400whp, runs methanol, much lighter, ect ect ect. The car in the video is a street car with a cd player, full dash, heater, carpet, ect ect ect. The car in the video has gone a best of 9.11 @159mph with the car weighing damn near 3000lbs. How do I know all this? Cause it's my car, not forced performance's car, forced performance is a sponsor of mine.:) Thanks for the video whoever posted it! Nice shot!

[rodgazinya]

ok then who was the bald guy in the driver seat with the firesuit on saying his best time was a high 8's.. if this is you r car are you local though..im in tacoma, wa..if so we should meet up sometime and talk cars..

[ninesecdsm]

I'm in Idaho, I don't live in Wa. Sorry. Also I never said I ran high 8's, I am the "bald" guy in the fire suit you talked to. I wish I could say that I ran an 8 LOL! We have been trying to break in the 8's all season, our best was a 9.11 @159mph in vegas.

[rodgazinya]

Either way your car is awesome.. Im taking a trip to Idaho sometime in december hopefuly..So maybe we can see whats up..id love the check out ur setup..

[eeeen321]

9.3 @ 156mph ......... 950+awhp at 45+psi with a 50shot of pre-spray .....damn dsm owns

[ninesecdsm]

wasn't 45lbs of boost, it was at 38lbs with a 100 shot, not a 50shot. Just clearing that up:)