I didn't like the voices used on the prelude at all. Too much trumpetting. But it really takes off when the fugue starts. Worth sticking around for 2.41 when the fun starts.
Changed time signature in Prelude to 12/8. Fuga doesn't sound like fuga but rather like and accordion piece... there is such mess with voices there... And the basis - registration is just bad.
@3NUNS : Audience very so obviously westless so the church muts have moved slightly towards Lutheran territory. Which would have pleased the author of the composition.
PBS quotes many other authorities on the subject (Isolde Ahlgrimm, Birnbaum, Quantz...) and concludes "in fact, even in music influenced by the French style, inégalité is the exception rather than the rule.
Found in the links of 'composerpan' : "Léglise possède un orgue unique au monde, baptisé Christophe-Raphaël, dune qualité et dune richesse exceptionnelles, réalisé en 1978 par le facteur dorgue Detlef Kleuker sur les plans de Jean Guillou, compositeur et titulaire de lorgue de Saint-Eustache à Paris."
Why not? Bach's was a musical time when French - and Italian - styles were very important and perfectly familiar to him as composer and as performer. Also, some people like to play historical music "as though" it was being played by somebody outside the composer's immediate sphere, rather than sticking to "what he would have wanted".
CPE BACH resumes many items of stylistic playing..... of his own preclassical works and those of his contemporaries. For him, his father was "the old periwig".
Paul Badura Skoda (Interpreting Bach at the keyboard) "Many good Bach performers fight shy of notes inégales; not without good reason"......
@jpstenino ... and to think, that fugue was written first for solo violin (first sonata, in G minor) - such imagination, to take the work from the miniature to the macro-scale.
A very pedestrian performance, and an appallingly amateur video recording. What's more, this audience has what we all dread, a raucous, badly behaved child captured there in sound and vision!
Douche. I got to say, from reading comments on other organ videos, being a pompous dick really seems to be the popular way to go for organ professionals. The guy is SHARING something, if we was half the pretentious show-off you are, he would have waited to have a professionnal camera, with the right angles and a grade A microphone to capture the sound before releasing anything. But he didn't, he just put the modest video out there SHARING his experience. Jesus do you always have to be a prick?
Who built this instrument? It's an amazing design, and yes, it does look like a hand! They were careful not to stick up the middle finger, huh? Wonderful French organ sound. The french organs always had a good and prominent tone. Thanks for the video!
lol the organ looks like a hand but it gives a great sound if the sound recoding was better, its a little harsh on the ears with the camrea sound recorder
The seats in this church are the kind that look like a giant gorilla hand that cup your body. You know, the ones from the early 70's with a chrome swivel base.
Eglise de l'Alpe d'Huez dand les Alpes en France C'est un orgue de Dietrich Kloecker des années 1980 l'achitecte est un certain M.Marolle C'est orgue est remarquable. Bien cordialement Pierre BARBARY
The main project of this modern styled/hybrid schools organ of Notre-Dame-des-Neiges, was designed by Jean Guillou so we can perfectly understand why this instrument (full of modern eletronic aids and gadgets), is such a crazy mix between modern and ancient, French and Spanish palettes, visionary and foolishly pretentiuos, superhomistic attitude, typical of Guillou and of his "compositions"...
Yeah i couldn't help to wonder why some of the sounds he would get almost sounded like an analog synth. What kind of electronic aids and gadgets are used in this organ?
The sound is very dense and punchy, i love it, a truly unique piece of art and engineering. Maybe composerpan's technique has something to do with this also but i like to way most if not all of the notes don't get lost in the mix, some organs tend to get muddy and undefined in sound.
I think i'm going to start touring to check out the various organs we have around here in Quebec City, although i doubt there will be anything as special as this one!
Agreed- Modern organ builders are now using alternate designs to make up for the cost of a real case that appeals to the eye as the organ to the ear. These cases are bone cheap to build. For real organ cases look at the 17th to 19th centurey Europe, England, US & Canada. this is a cheap substitute.
There are plenty of case design used in organs that do not hang on a wall. This style of case is the cheapest that can be built, substituting flash and swipe for reall artistry in case design. this case is not for art it is for economics.
Prelude played on reeds is too fatiquing to the ear. Fugue is nice registration! Thanks.
That organ case would be far less expensive if the corners where squared (90 degrees) than with all the angles and curves. (Would not a "Right" hand be more theologically correct?!) Wow! How many languages does Composerpan speak and write? --Taiwanese, French, English.
Hi Composerpan, I really enjoyed your playing of this selection and the others you have placed on YouTube. You have a great future ahead of you my friend. I would like to hear you in recital sometime. Where are you located, that is city and state? The organ you played in this and other Bach pieces is a beautiful sounding instrument. Could you tell me the maker and the location of the organ, I would love to hear it sometime. Continued success in your endevors. Regards, Ted
you can find its website by this keyword, "orguesetmontagnes":)
unfortunately, I am going back to Taiwan and wont continue my study of organ in France, this concert was my last interpretation in France actually. I don't know if I'll have chance to continue learning organ in Taiwan, it depends on God. I really hope that I can be able to learn it and being an professional organist. Organ is my passion!
A giant hand at the bottom of a concrete missile silo... aesthetics?
ccoraxfan 10 months ago
恭賀
演奏得真好
我非常喜歡,特別是賦格曲
請問您現在在台灣哪裡高就?
wujs2005 1 year ago
I played this in our seventh grade band in d minor!!! I played saxaphone!! :) Sooo much fun!! :)
NoParkingNET 1 year ago
I didn't like the voices used on the prelude at all. Too much trumpetting. But it really takes off when the fugue starts. Worth sticking around for 2.41 when the fun starts.
stroudbike 1 year ago
Changed time signature in Prelude to 12/8. Fuga doesn't sound like fuga but rather like and accordion piece... there is such mess with voices there... And the basis - registration is just bad.
m4rtymusic 1 year ago
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m4rtymusic 1 year ago
@emprerzorg : thankyou
3NUNS 2 years ago
hi there composerpan : is this you ?
3NUNS 2 years ago
typical French roman catholics : cannot stop muttering ... obviously the French Revolution wasn't a successful one
3NUNS 2 years ago
@3NUNS : Audience very so obviously westless so the church muts have moved slightly towards Lutheran territory. Which would have pleased the author of the composition.
3NUNS 2 years ago
@3NUNS *must*
3NUNS 2 years ago
heh?
TheKarakakak 2 years ago
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mudws 2 years ago
Look at that organ! OMG
ijunkie 2 years ago 2
PBS quotes many other authorities on the subject (Isolde Ahlgrimm, Birnbaum, Quantz...) and concludes "in fact, even in music influenced by the French style, inégalité is the exception rather than the rule.
What authorities do you have up your sleeve?
1401JSC 2 years ago
@1401JSC : ummm, that sounds right !
3NUNS 2 years ago
The organ looks like it's giving a high-five to God!
Jirureru 2 years ago 10
omg!!! hahahahaha
javajo46 2 years ago
@Jirureru yes is it to reach God by means of music
12345qazx1 1 year ago
I like the performance, perfect, gorgeous, thank you. Also the organ pipes that have the shape of a hand, Whose maker is it? Congratulations
1yuvan 2 years ago
Found in the links of 'composerpan' : "Léglise possède un orgue unique au monde, baptisé Christophe-Raphaël, dune qualité et dune richesse exceptionnelles, réalisé en 1978 par le facteur dorgue Detlef Kleuker sur les plans de Jean Guillou, compositeur et titulaire de lorgue de Saint-Eustache à Paris."
1401JSC 2 years ago
FINALLY--A CREATIVE ORGANIST! The notes inegales were a BRILLIANT idea! Lucky you!
jimbobboyorganist 2 years ago
Try to listen to the fugue played on solo violin.
So transparant.
1401JSC 2 years ago
Notes inégales chez Bach?
Why??
1401JSC 2 years ago
Why not? Bach's was a musical time when French - and Italian - styles were very important and perfectly familiar to him as composer and as performer. Also, some people like to play historical music "as though" it was being played by somebody outside the composer's immediate sphere, rather than sticking to "what he would have wanted".
JacarandaMusic 2 years ago
CPE BACH resumes many items of stylistic playing..... of his own preclassical works and those of his contemporaries. For him, his father was "the old periwig".
Paul Badura Skoda (Interpreting Bach at the keyboard) "Many good Bach performers fight shy of notes inégales; not without good reason"......
1401JSC 2 years ago
@JacarandaMusic well said.
jpstenino 1 year ago
@jpstenino ... and to think, that fugue was written first for solo violin (first sonata, in G minor) - such imagination, to take the work from the miniature to the macro-scale.
JacarandaMusic 1 year ago
From cd's, this organ sounds realy great!!!!!
JMSW1955 2 years ago
A very pedestrian performance, and an appallingly amateur video recording. What's more, this audience has what we all dread, a raucous, badly behaved child captured there in sound and vision!
fairfieldstation 3 years ago
Douche. I got to say, from reading comments on other organ videos, being a pompous dick really seems to be the popular way to go for organ professionals. The guy is SHARING something, if we was half the pretentious show-off you are, he would have waited to have a professionnal camera, with the right angles and a grade A microphone to capture the sound before releasing anything. But he didn't, he just put the modest video out there SHARING his experience. Jesus do you always have to be a prick?
LucBenOuiLuc 2 years ago 5
Oh my got! this is not orisinal and Fugue is not non-legato,Prelude have to orisinal rhythm
^_^
ky1228s1 3 years ago
got=god
ky1228s1 3 years ago
its like its begging for a high five! c'mon now, don't leave it hanging!
duende1969 3 years ago
Who built this instrument? It's an amazing design, and yes, it does look like a hand! They were careful not to stick up the middle finger, huh? Wonderful French organ sound. The french organs always had a good and prominent tone. Thanks for the video!
clydesight 3 years ago 2
The organ-builder was Detlef Kleuker from Bielefeld/Germany. Disposition: Jean Guillou.
tongenerator 3 years ago
lol the organ looks like a hand but it gives a great sound if the sound recoding was better, its a little harsh on the ears with the camrea sound recorder
Rheesoman 3 years ago
Seems like you like Bach better than Boellmohn.
organmaster1969 3 years ago
that organs pretty cool!
markmarshall39 3 years ago
The seats in this church are the kind that look like a giant gorilla hand that cup your body. You know, the ones from the early 70's with a chrome swivel base.
mercoid 3 years ago
Is it a hand?
organ1029 3 years ago 8
lol! the organ looks like one! I never thought it looked like that untill now...it kinda has a weird looking case...
muzical15 3 years ago 2
I shall call this organ the "Stop" organ.
organ1029 3 years ago 3
lol
thordur17 3 years ago
The Fuga is also written for violin...
I can't imagine a violinist, playing like this...
The whole character of the fuga is destroyed, by both playing, and registration...
rjijmker 4 years ago
What church is this? Who is the architect?
calarch78 4 years ago
Must be the work of an antropophist architect? Kindo like the "Goetheanmum" in Dornach, Switzerland, if you know what I mean.
Not for me, thanks. It's too cold for my taste....
rwctim 4 years ago
Eglise de l'Alpe d'Huez dand les Alpes en France C'est un orgue de Dietrich Kloecker des années 1980 l'achitecte est un certain M.Marolle C'est orgue est remarquable. Bien cordialement Pierre BARBARY
yrabar 3 years ago
la composition est de jean guillou
tiarca 3 years ago
Uhh, see the title....
pmzephyr22 3 years ago
i talk about the organ
tiarca 3 years ago
Alpe d'Huez? Sounds like a good place to record biker music, as the Tour De France usually passes through l'Alpe d'Huez.
BayAreaBiker2001 3 years ago
(Comment 2nd part)
The organiste is playing the praeludium in baroque-french style, with inegal rithm.
To be honest, the fuga is not so good (the two keyboards, used for the f/p game, have a too close registration that kills the effects)
discretinconnu 4 years ago
(Comment 1st part)
Well people can either like or dislike the shape of the casing, at least, it's original.
This organ is in the French Alps (so it explains why the reeds are so untuned).
About the sound, don't forget you're listening to a very low quality movie (bad quality encoding from bad quality sound roucording).
The registration is not fantastic but not so ugly (at least, he's not using the swell :D)
discretinconnu 4 years ago
absolutely horrid
3NUNS 4 years ago
your spot on
quinn244 4 years ago
the organ looks like a hand is that wat its supposed to look like, like the hands playing it or sumting cuz its really ugly
ttay1122 4 years ago
Absolutely the wrong registration and wrong rhythm for tghis piece.
3NUNS 4 years ago
3NUNS-Your comment is absolutely wrong for tghis(this)piece. Absolutely great registration and great rhythm.
KptNeemo 4 years ago 3
u r a 1st class twit
3NUNS 4 years ago
yea that's an ugly organ
a1213w 4 years ago
absolutely hideous organ casing horrible sound too
joeyboi87 4 years ago
Wonderful organ, one of the best in the world-for a small organ, and wonderful sound too.
KptNeemo 4 years ago
Not a beautiful organ...
albertbug86 4 years ago 2
Lol, that's right...
Tazeruk 4 years ago
Bela performance, Bach está sendo bem interpretado pelos grandes músicos pelo mundo!
betukem 4 years ago
All modernists must be shot.
Jitpring 4 years ago
The main project of this modern styled/hybrid schools organ of Notre-Dame-des-Neiges, was designed by Jean Guillou so we can perfectly understand why this instrument (full of modern eletronic aids and gadgets), is such a crazy mix between modern and ancient, French and Spanish palettes, visionary and foolishly pretentiuos, superhomistic attitude, typical of Guillou and of his "compositions"...
(organ built by Kleuker in 1978)
alra1975 4 years ago
Yeah i couldn't help to wonder why some of the sounds he would get almost sounded like an analog synth. What kind of electronic aids and gadgets are used in this organ?
LucBenOuiLuc 2 years ago
Electro couplers, aids on the keys to make them lighter, programmable stop combinations, and tricky things like these.
The artificial sound is due to the pipes that are from industrial production and from the istrionic aesthetical choices of Guillou.
This is a modern avant garde organ experiment.
alra1975 2 years ago
The sound is very dense and punchy, i love it, a truly unique piece of art and engineering. Maybe composerpan's technique has something to do with this also but i like to way most if not all of the notes don't get lost in the mix, some organs tend to get muddy and undefined in sound.
I think i'm going to start touring to check out the various organs we have around here in Quebec City, although i doubt there will be anything as special as this one!
LucBenOuiLuc 2 years ago
ive never seen an organ shaped exactly like that.... then again I havent seen many
tyuru2 4 years ago
Interesting organ design. :)
Nice performance overall.
falconbach 4 years ago
interessante, buona fonica, prego inserire altri video.
giufighter 4 years ago
Look at that fucking organ. WOW!
AlsatianCousin 4 years ago
This organ was beeing constructed my a german organbuilder. His name was Detlef Kleuker.
screammachine87 4 years ago
Prelude cleaner and clearer without the read.
Nice tempo, not lagged (slowed) by its difficulty.
I do NOT like this organ case design. Something bothersome about it. "LEFT hand of God"?
robertgift 4 years ago
Agreed- Modern organ builders are now using alternate designs to make up for the cost of a real case that appeals to the eye as the organ to the ear. These cases are bone cheap to build. For real organ cases look at the 17th to 19th centurey Europe, England, US & Canada. this is a cheap substitute.
octave4 4 years ago
LUV that organ disign! it makes a change from an organ just hanging from a wall.+ good playin man!
MeZZosOpRaNOz 4 years ago
There are plenty of case design used in organs that do not hang on a wall. This style of case is the cheapest that can be built, substituting flash and swipe for reall artistry in case design. this case is not for art it is for economics.
octave4 4 years ago
Prelude played on reeds is too fatiquing to the ear. Fugue is nice registration! Thanks.
That organ case would be far less expensive if the corners where squared (90 degrees) than with all the angles and curves. (Would not a "Right" hand be more theologically correct?!) Wow! How many languages does Composerpan speak and write? --Taiwanese, French, English.
Please continue study of organ in Taiwan.
Drop the "it depends on God" nonsense.
Visual is mostly boring without close-ups.
robertgift 4 years ago
A good tuning job on the reeds would help!
Branchporter 4 years ago
Reeds are so sensitive to temperature variation and so often go out of tune.
I should invent an automatic reed tuning device. One would attach to each reed. (What a mess that would be.)
robertgift 4 years ago
Bravo, trés belle interprétation avec ce trés beau intruments de Notre Dame des Neiges. Bravo Merci.
voixdunange 4 years ago
Merci beaucoup! Grace a cet magnifique orgue!:)
composerpan 4 years ago
No no, jean guillou a fait la composition mais il ne l'a pas construit.
Est-ce jean paul imbert à coté de vous composerpan?
MANULE100 4 years ago
Oui, c'est lui, on etait dans le stage d'orgue de Jean Paul Imbert.:)
composerpan 4 years ago
Hi Composerpan, I really enjoyed your playing of this selection and the others you have placed on YouTube. You have a great future ahead of you my friend. I would like to hear you in recital sometime. Where are you located, that is city and state? The organ you played in this and other Bach pieces is a beautiful sounding instrument. Could you tell me the maker and the location of the organ, I would love to hear it sometime. Continued success in your endevors. Regards, Ted
Ima69er 4 years ago
Thank you very much!
I was in an Masterclass in Alpe d'Huez, France.
you can find its website by this keyword, "orguesetmontagnes":)
unfortunately, I am going back to Taiwan and wont continue my study of organ in France, this concert was my last interpretation in France actually. I don't know if I'll have chance to continue learning organ in Taiwan, it depends on God. I really hope that I can be able to learn it and being an professional organist. Organ is my passion!
composerpan 4 years ago
Great interpretation!, is it not an organ designed by Jean-Guillou?
HumbertoMarquez 4 years ago
thank you! and the musical composition of this organ is made by Jean-Guillou.
composerpan 4 years ago